Tick, tick, tick... clunk. Tick, tick, tick... clunk. The sound of a slow-shifting bike grates on me about as much as rattling e-bike motors or people who don't understand that the left lane is for passing, not where you live just because you're going 5kph over the speed limit in your Dodge Charger. And while the latter two problems might be unsolvable, I believe that most of us can - and should - figure out the first one. That's probably why I found myself so annoyed halfway through a ride last week...
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Ugh, this thing is shifting like shit," the friendly stranger said with obvious frustration in his voice as he slowly turned his cranks over, probably because he was stuck three gears too high with a set of tired legs. "
I'll have to drop it off at the shop next week for them to fix it," he wheezed between gulps of air.
Had I not been barely holding onto the same struggle bus up a hill that felt a lot steeper than it should, I would have said that a quick quarter-turn of a barrel adjuster might sort it out. Or maybe just a friendly pull to bring the derailleur back into alignment-ish. Or could the cause have been his obviously rusty shift cable and housing cut three inches too short? Instead, I stayed quiet and stewed over how a strangely high percentage of mountain bikers, many of whom own the latest pricey gear, don't know how to keep their expensive toys running smoothly.
There are no doubt countless things that should be prioritized ahead of fixing your bike, including riding your bike, and having a moment of spare time is a luxury for many of us. I'm told that children need to be fed multiple times every single day and that many can't poo by themselves or even make dinner. I know people who have to drive to something called "an office" where they pretend to be busy for eight hours, which sounds nearly as horrible as actually being busy. Some of us have friends or even partners that we're supposed to spend time with and support. And yeah, all of that should probably come before shooting DOT fluid at the ceiling (and into your eyes) while learning how to bleed your ten-year-old Juicy 3s.
Even so, taking the time to work on your bike is well worth it, and not just to avoid a repair bill or stop that annoying tick, tick... clunk shifting that you've been putting up with for weeks.
It's Good For the SoulFixing things simply feels good, doesn't it? There's something to be said for figuring out what's wrong and solving the problem on your own, whether that's as straightforward as turning a barrel adjuster or as scary as bending your $300 derailleur back to where it belongs.
Most of today's derailleurs and hangers are relatively sturdy compared to the half aluminum, half cheese stuff we were using not that long ago, but they're still far more vulnerable than they are indestructible. Rocks can be big and pointy and think your fancy XTR "mech" looks pretty delicious as you roll the dice yet again down that sketchy chute. And while it might not have felt like much of an impact, your fancy bike is going to tick, tick... clunk for the next year until you manage to get way too much money for it on the PB buy & sell because there's a worldwide shortage of everything.
However, if you owned a relatively inexpensive hanger straightener tool of some kind, and maybe found a video providing step-by-step instructions on how to not cause even more damage, you could likely massage things back to where they belong. A delicate pull at the bottom, rotate the tool to the opposite side and maybe just a gentle push, then re-adjust and work your way around, checking the progress as you make smaller and smaller adjustments until it's perfect. Maybe you bolt the derailleur back into place to find that it's pointing twenty-degrees off-center after being bent in the same incident, so this time you're using bare hands and eyeballs to carefully knead things straight.
You're covered in black grease but the next thing you know (or maybe hours later depending on how things go) it's shifting buttery smooth and tick-free. Not because you paid someone to use an over-priced tool or because you convinced a friend to do it, but because you did the right pushing and pulling of the bendy pieces until all the things that need to be aligned were aligned. Speaking of black grease, even a job as menial as cleaning your nasty-ass drivetrain can feel both constructive and cathartic; maybe it's just the solvent talking, but freshly cleaned pulley wheels make me happy. Okay, struggling to force that last bit of tire bead into place while stuffing a giant piece of foam inside your tire isn't exactly a meditative process, but maybe the result could feel just as beneficial after you've calmed down a bit...
Fixing stuff just feels good, whether that's rebuilding an STI shifter that you've stripped down to a thousand tiny pieces on your workbench, or sweating and swearing over the last three inches of stubborn tire bead.
The most rewarding job? If you've got the time, learning how to build a wheel should be on your bucket list. Taking all the measurements, laying everything out, and especially putting the spokes through the correct holes on the hub flanges is a process that will test everything from your math to your organizational skills, and especially your patience. But it's all worth it when all the spokes cross in the right places and go to the right nipples, and their length is millimeter-perfect when you bring the tension up evenly. Even more so when it doesn't implode halfway through the first ride.
Pre-built wheels make all the sense in the world for pretty much everyone, especially if you live a busy life and haven't even gotten around to sorting out your shifting, let alone lacing a bunch of spokes. Regardless, if you set some time aside to fix your bike, be it a simple shifting adjustment or as involved as a complete damper tear-down, I bet you'll find that it's just as beneficial to your wallet as it is to your mindset.
Mechanical SympathyBurning palo santo and laying out your favorite crystals in your workshop while you lace a wheel is a little woo-woo, I admit, but there's no better way to spend a full moon night. That said, there is a far more tangible reason for you to fix your own bike: mechanical sympathy. In other words, when you know how something works, you're less likely to beat the shit out of it.
Have you ever taken a close look at your derailleur? They're basically a 400-ish gram exoskeleton of aluminum (and maybe some carbon) with a whole bunch of tiny pivots, pins, springs, and plastic that all need to be perfectly aligned for it to move the chain across twelve cogs to within a hair's width of accuracy. If the geometry is out of whack by even just a smidge, maybe because you took the wrong line down that damn chute again and hit it on the same pointy rock again, it might tick, tick... clunk until you shift it into the spokes and all those pieces get spread over the trail like a violent crime scene.
But if you've had the nervous sweats while slowly bending a tired derailleur hanger back into alignment for the third time, you might be a bit more careful about blindly flying into that chute again. After all, you know what it takes to repair and that the hanger might not survive yet another impact, so you choose a slightly better line that's just as fast but four inches to the left and far kinder to your bike.
Wheels and tires are the first components to feel the brunt of things, which makes them a good indicator of how much mechanical sympathy you may or may not possess. So many dents that your tire won't seal anymore? Flat spots and loose spokes? Rim hasn't been straight since the day you bought your bike? Always getting flat tires on your rides? You could be using the wrong parts or the wrong pressure, of course, or maybe you're just riding like you pay someone else to keep that wheel from imploding.
When you're the one swapping spokes over to a new rim at 2am in the garage so you can ride the next day, or pulling out rim dents with a crescent wrench, or spending far too long making sure your bike's shifting is bang-on perfect, you're also more likely to treat your bike better on the trail.
You Don't Need MuchUnlike your car, dishwasher, and so many other things we own, most of your mountain bike's mechanical bits are on full display rather than hidden behind a plastic cover held on by twenty small screws and too many impossibly tight trim clips. If your bike isn't shifting right, you can probably figure out why by staring at it for a while or using Google; you don't need an automotive lift or ODB reader to decipher some clandestine code, and certainly don't need an expensive repair stand, expensive tools, or a clinically-clean workshop.
Many riders live in a place where doing any sort of mechanical work is challenging or impossible, which is a pretty good excuse for turning to a shop. But you can also get a hell of a lot done in a small space if you're careful and clean.
I remember being thirteen and doing a drivetrain overhaul with my bike upsidedown on the back patio in the rain, my only tools being a chain breaker, some rusty hex keys, and even rustier wire snippers. I remember nervously rebuilding a suspension fork in my carpeted bedroom with slip-joint pliers, too much grease, not enough oil, and no instructions. I remember kneeling at the back of my bike while trying to remember if I'm supposed to turn the derailleur's barrel adjuster to the left or to the right while wondering what the two tiny Phillips screws do and if I should invest in my first screwdriver. I remember trying to force fresh DOT fluid through my brakes but forgetting to open the bleed port, the result being more of it going onto the ceiling than anywhere else.
You don't know what you don't know, but you'll never know unless you dig into it.
If the extent of your handiness tops out at changing lightbulbs and your tool collection begins and ends with a single Phillips screwdriver, I can understand why you'd rather pay a professional to repair your expensive mountain bike. But I'm not talking about re-shimming a damper or even lacing a new wheel; it's the far more straightforward mechanical work that keeps your bike running smoothly day-to-day and, more often than not, all you really need are a few wrenches of some kind, some grease, and some time. Depending on how deep you want to go, all the tools should cost less than one or two over-priced tires, and there's a how-to video for pretty much everything online these days, from fixing your shifting to cleaning DOT fluid out of your eyes.
Life can be hectic, unpredictable, and full of countless things that are far more important than your bike. Hell, people have no qualms about paying a stranger to clean the mess they created in their own house, so expecting everyone to find the time to quiet their creaky bottom bracket is a little far-fetched.
But all I'm saying is that taking the time, when you can, to repair and maintain your bike will do more than just save you money... It'll also keep others from having to listen to you tick, tick... clunking your way up any hills.
Personally, I haven’t had many problems scheduling a service at my preferred shop. Depending on what I need, I set an appointment and within 2-3 days I have an appointment and the bike is done at the end of the day. If I have no other choice and need something sooner, I will take care of it myself.
@Lanebobane Oh I'm definitely on the 2 bikes solution. Helps when I have to go to the shop for the few things I don't do (advance suspension service, and truing)
j/k- kind of.
My job is something other than bikes and bikes aren't my only hobby and I agree with the article in spirit and will try to do some stuff myself, but ughh.
How many people treat basic mechanics like rocket science? That rider suffering the shitty shifting could probably fix - or at least improve - the issue in about 30 seconds trailside. Hell, he might not even need to stop pedaling. And if he die understand derailleurs he doesn’t need to stop and watch YouTube or open Sheldon brown to figure it out - just looking at the system and watching what happens when you push the shifter tells you everything you need to know in 90% of cases.
Meanwhile, if you care about time the last thing you need is a whole ride ruined by an easily fixable issue. The last thing you need is to spend 30 minutes driving to and from the shop and explaining the problem.
You do you, and of course it’s fine to pay a professional for big jobs like suspension servicing. But if you’re not fixing most issues that come up on a bike then I doubt time is the real issue.
I've very legitimately seen bikes shelved for months due to neglectfully damaged parts going past the point of no return. Frames with ovalized pivots due to riding while loose. You may wait a lot longer than 2 weeks for a fix when you've written off your frame because you opted to keep riding it when it wasn't in a state for it.
If you’re on this site, you are already more committed to bikes than a casual rider and there is no reason you should be wasting money and more importantly time delivering your bike, waiting (for days), and picking up your bike from someone else who you still have to pay for services rendered.
They aren't all teens and such and some shops treat them pretty well. If you've had bad experiences, choose a better shop.
I like to do maintenance, it's kind of relaxing- so chains, brake pads/bleeds, stuff like that- more intense stuff? I don't even want to learn to lace wheels, change bottom brackets, or mess with suspension internals. I'd end up at the shop fixing my bad work anyway.
A bike is not a complicated piece of equipment… it’s the equivalent of calling a plummer for a clogged drain, or an electrician to change a light fixture, or a car mechanic to change oil and filters. It just doesn’t get that deep with a bike.
riding your bike makes you a better rider,
doing yoga makes you a better rider,
Going to the gym makes you a better rider,
Eating well makes you a better rider,
Getting enough sleep makes you a better rider,
Working on your bike does not make you a better rider, it might afford you more seat time to ride your bike, which can make you a better rider
At the heart of the issue it’s some pretty simple choices, if you get paid well for the “work” you do, paying others to provide labour or services makes sense. Especially if those services can be done, while you’re working, earning more money than the costs to fix the things…
If I’m a doctor, and derive a lot of satisfaction from the work that I do, and earn a good wage, it simply makes sense to trade those earnings to “buy back” my time. Time which I can spend cultivating a better relationship with others, or delving into another hobby, or volunteering at a homeless shelter…
Time spent banging knuckles on trying to remove a stubborn cassette, or slipping a wrench spinning a pedal is not therapeutic for some people.
I say all of this, with a full garage of tools, stands and project bikes, that I work on daily. I do derive pleasure from working and fixing things, but have no issue with people who decide to trade their money to me, to buy back their time. I hope they continue to do it, so I can afford to buy back my time and not paint my house.
I’ll take up painting hits a little close to home. Everything except suspension work is easy. Fox40 full tear down has me like “the scream”
99% of fixes & maintenance take less time than loading up the bike, dropping it off at the shop, and then retrieving it when it’s (eventually) ready.
What a pompous, myopic perspective.
Anyway, I wish I could have the same experience as for the car. Drop it off for yearly in the morning and get it back after work. Then I could spend more time riding. However, for my bikes, the lead times are easily 1 month if there are parts so I have to do it myself (which is okay with some beers). Not sure if I do my Fox 40 though.
where does that put me?
ah.. yeah.
just call it quality time in the garage. just make sure thre#s a fridge stuffed with hoppy juice in there, too
One of my bikes is the repair stands for two weeks already. Spend more on tools than on parts during that time...
Could you reverse that?
Would you reverse that?
If you post your opinion on the internet you are inviting the judgement of strangers. That’s the entire f*cking point. Sometimes it comes in the form of upvotes, sometimes in pushback or opinions about your life choices. If you want those opinions to consider the details of your situation then include those details in your statement. If someone misses one of those details then you can call them out and score bonus points on the imaginary score sheet.
If you want to voice your opinion without judgement buy a journal. Open a word document. Talk to yourself on the way to work. Write on Quora and turn off comments. But internet comment sections are not the place for that and I’m astounded that someone thought they were.
I've found good shops from time to time, but mostly they are consistently inconsistent. You might get the veteran mechanic who can perform magic on anything. Or you might get the 17-year-old kid (no shade, this was me once) who forgets to tighten your brake lever after a bleed (real example). Here's a few others from the past 5 years, all different shops and mechanics
-250-pound mechanic hopped up and down on my brand new bike in for a warranty issue (size small, set up for 140 lbs) in the parking garage and tells me my suspension is shot because "it was bottoming out harshly".
-Mechanic erroneously removed spacers from a crank spindle and left it sliding back and forth in my frame.
-While bike was in for suspension warranty and tried to charge my $40 for a tubeless setup on a tire he reported to be leaking that wasn't leaking when we dropped it off.
-Set up a tubeless tire with the tread pattern backwards (and logos not lined up *gasp*), had to re-do it. (normally wouldn't have a shop set up a tire, but this was a particularly finicky one that wouldn't hold air and required 4 layers of tape to seal)
At this point I only go to shops if I have a warranty issue.
That’s quite the shiny pedestal you’ve stood upon there…
Maybe that person has a fairly high stress job, and uses that time watching TV to gather themselves, and get ready for the next day. Maybe working on their bike in any form is just added frustration, which compounds the issue of the stressful day.
Who cares how someone chooses to spend their money and time, it’s theirs, not yours.
I can emphatically tell you there are people who just dont grasp mechanical contrivances, so trying to understand, work on, and repair is beyond what they’re interested in doing.
Brake bleed = 30-40$
Full tune = about 80$
New cush core install = 40$ because it can take almost an hour, even with their special lever!
I suspect bike shops would try to do the same… but can’t seem to get any shop owners to talk about prices and charges.
Cushcore insets aren’t bad, just take yer time, follow the instructions, use some soapy water, and some good tire levers
Or ever change a tractor tire, one that weighs a couple hundred pounds?
We all prolly need to stop complaining about every little inconvenience that pops up in mountain biking, we are better than that
I have no issue with someone deciding to have someone else do their work for them, again, honestly. The idea that people stand on a pedestal to look down on others for not doing their own bike maintenance is quite silly, by that thought process, we should all be doing all maintenance and repairs on our cars, homes, computers, small appliances, etc. I don’t doubt that some people do (I’m one in fact) but I don’t do everything. You’d be hard pressed to find me hanging drywall, taping/mudding, or insulating.
I guess my point is, own why you’re not doing it, don’t play like it’s too hard of a job, cause if a 17 yr old shop rat can get your cushcore installed in 20 mins with a half broken set of pedros levers, you sure as hell can as well
I think you may overestimate bike shop employees. Maybe its just me but I cant tell you how many times I've gone into the shop and they were surprisingly oblivious. Guarantee that mechanic is youtubing tutorials in the back too.
I have had more maintenance done poorly, or parts left loose, from letting the so-called “experts” work on my bike than would have ever happened had I just done it myself, this goes for cars too.
Don’t get me wrong, sometimes I need help because of lack time or knowledge/experience, or both, but most of the time when I bite off my own maintenance, it’s totally worth the frustration, time, and the occasional broken part, because I ALWAYS learn something in the process.
My wife fought me on this for years. She would tell me, “I don’t have a mechanical mind like you, I can’t figure it out”. Here we are, six years after she started riding, and now she can do all basic maintenance and even some of the harder stuff. Hell, I watched her adjust the clutch tension on her derailleur trail side the other day, I’ve never even done that before! Brought a tear to my eye.
Anyway, that’s a long way of saying, I have faith in you!
Bike industry says: Wanna Service your fork? By this list of tools. Service your drive train? Gotta get another list of tools (b screw, chain tool, lock but). Bleed kits? Wheel true? The list goes on. I fundamentally agree with this argument but the realities might have more practical reasons for being dependent on mechanics vs trial and error. If you are working on your own bike, you need 2 mountain bikes just in case you f*ck something up and have to take it to the bike shop anyways (which is pretty much my experience every time I think something is a quick fix). Riding is the only exercise I can do at the moment so not having a functional bike is not an option. Also, this whole argument simply goes out the window if you don't have a workspace or places to store a bunch of tools.
Perfect example right now: I need to service my fork, I have a spare fork. I don't have the tools for swapping a fork or the right wrench to disassemble my current fork for the service. I'll probably wait for the weekend and try to mooch off a buddy's know-how and bike tools.
You can literally swap a fork with nothing more than allen keys and grease. Remove the headset cap and stem. drop the fork. grease new one and insert. Slide stem on. put on an retighten headset cap. retighten stem. Its not that complex
Been gun shy ever since....
In my case I think it was an old/defective tire. I was having trouble getting one small section of bead to seat and the thing blew off the rim at probably just under 50PSI.
Either dodgy rim or tyre... or both!
Suffice to say... both were utterly banjaxed afterwards! Was left with a face full of sealant, ringing ears and an ingrained fear / nervousness of seating tyres on rims now... Also an expensive habit for not skimping on rims...
Guess what, if you need to actively discourage your customers from learning how to do basic bike maintenance, you're probably the kind of bike shop that people actively avoid.
Hope those 5 customers who you convinced that they're too stupid to change a tire are worth alienating the everyone else.
Everybody grouses, but some people take it to a level i find super confusing, to the point where they're actively sabotaging their business due to their disdain for their customers.
All of this predicated on you having a partner at home to maintain that adult presence- if that's not your circumstance, sorry, don't mean to intrude.
"that noisy CV joint can hold on for a few hundred miles"
"that low-spec derailleur will shift the same as the pricey one, and 40g isn't worth the extra $100"
Then you realize that bearings aren’t that hard to replace, freehubs aren’t difficult to service, and brakes aren’t too hard to bleed or replace pads on.
Next thing you know, you have a handful of really useful tools around the garage, and that neighbor that doesn’t know anything about bikes is coming up and starting a conversation about how to do something. Next, suddenly you have a little community- not only because you have tools, but you’ve passed something on, and also in the age of bike theft, you watch out for each other.
I’m not against taking the bike to your local LBS for support- there is a time and a place for that- but working on your own bike and sharing it with others is the gift that keeps on giving.
That said, I don't think there's any shame in taking your bike to the shop either. The way my work and family schedule work out, it's pretty easy for me to find time to fix my bike while still being able to ride, hang out with the family, etc. But if I had to choose between fixing the bike myself and (for example) spending more time with my daughter? Yeah, the bike is going to the shop, and I'm going to feel zero guilt about it.
(I also think you could make a lot of the "fix your bike" arguments about other things. The truth is that building and repairing a lot of things, from PCs to plumbing, isn't that complicated if you have the right tools and a Youtube video or two. But most of us don't have the time to learn to fix ALL of these things ourselves, so you kind of have to pick and choose what you're going to DIY and what you're going to pay for because you want to spend your time some other way)
@unrooted The seal install tool help a lot with the freezer technic hahaha.
I figured I needed around €200 worth of tools+oil (not including nitrogen) to do the big service on my Deluxe... and they've already changed to a different oil for the 2023 models.
One thing I found helpful, is to find a good shop in your area that has friendly knowledgeable mechanics. so if you ever mess up you can always bring your bike in and not be worried about some overly judgmental person, asking you why you would ever attempt this job yourself without the "right" tools. Rather if you have a good mechanic (like I do) they will ask you what you did, and then tell you what you did wrong and give you some tips on how to do it properly.
My first brake bleed took nearly 2 hours and a lot of Dot definitely went on the carpet.
I did a lever bleed on some shimano brakes the other month and it took less than 10 minutes all in. I couldn’t imagine having to wait 2 weeks in the current climate for someone to do that
I'll still leave suspension servicing to the pros especially the nitrogen charge for dampers, but it's been very rewarding learning to do virtually everything else on my bike myself.
That first wheel or two might take 2-3 hours each to lace, tension, destress (repeat a few times), relace where you got the pattern wrong (crap) then relace because you have spokes crossing at the valve hole, relace a third time because you can't see the hub logo through the valve hole, and repeat you'll finally (finally) have a well built wheel. And yeah-the pattern needs to be right, and you SHOULD be able to see the hub logo through the valve hole-if that seems too fussy will you bother to use a torque wrench on your stem? Or make sure you pressed your new bearings into your frame squarely?
So if you're fastidious enough-find a clean corner to get set up, watch some tutorials on the job you're going to do and take your sweet time. If that seems like too much, keep your bike wiped down, your drivetrain clean, your chain lubed, and your tires inflated........and bring the person at your local shop a sixer when you bring your bike in.
That said, I have a very good feel for how tight things should be (yes, I use a torque wrench too, but not everything has published torque values). I've discovered that some people do not have this ability, and will either strip everything they put a tool on, or their bike will fall to pieces on the next ride. The former will find being a home mechanic very expensive. The latter may end up in the ER.
This season my last year bike runs better than when it was brand new from the store.
600 bucks is a huge investment for a person who considers every dollar spend on this MTB lifestyle, but I did this over two years as different mechanic jobs come up and def already offset it with just a fork lower service and brake bleed alone based on LBS pricing for such things.
P.S. This also includes countless hours of watching mechanic videos on Youtube
P.P.S. Get yourself a high quality tools for the job
- good torque wrench is 90 CAD on Amazon, you do not need fancy WERA for 270 CAD, but avoid chepos for 50 bucks
- nice set of Bondhus allen keys are half price of Park tools ( do you know who makes allen keys for Park Tools? Well know you do
- Fox lower leg removal tools are made by some Polish guy on eBay for half a price and better quality,
- 3D printed seal drivers all over eBay and Amazon for 20 bucks and make fork service super easy
- High quality grease in a Car Shop is available for 50-70% less than MTB branded stuff
- You can buy these cheap tools on amazon ( chain slap, bottom braket removal tool, bearing press), the cheapst ones are still very good quality due to simplicity of the tools.
- brake bleed kits on Amazon are around 40 CAD and same quality as branded stuff, will last you a few bleeds if you clean them properly... but I was never able to get more life out of them ( wear and tear dut to aggressive DOT fluid maybe, even after cleaning)
Everything else you say is good advice, but don't ever cheap out on measuring devices.
@valrock
The $50 is probably fine too.
youtu.be/4LjKpVLLqNc
You'd be better off eyeballing the calibration periodically than relying on a name brand or budget.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=XaqBA-xSGbc
This message sponsored by $50 torque wrenches.
Between 3 bicycles and two motorcycles if I didnt work on my own stuff I would be driving back and forth to shops constantly and would only be able to afford one of the above.
When I first started, my first round diagnosis was only accurate about 50% of the time, but gets better with experience. Even if you make mistakes, view those as learning opportunities; over time, you will get proficient.
I never bought a tool set but just bought tools as I need them for jobs I am trying to do. There is a learning curve involved but it gets easier the more you learn, and mistakes are very good for learning.
The only thing better than learning how wrench on a bike is teaching your kid how to do the same. I have never needed to take a bike to a shop outside of dropping a rear shock off for a full service. I recently built up a bike with my teen, from setting a star nut and doing a lowers service, to swapping out the drivetrain and bleeding brakes. Maybe it's me but spending a few hours getting a bike to shift perfectly or rebuilding something is meditative and relaxing.
Also, being known as the neighbor "who fixes bikes" brings with it a fresh, rotating beer selection.
Also, I like knowing I can (or can't) fix something on the side of the road or trail.
Nothing deep or skill related in doing a lower leg service. The cost of the proprietary tools (if you choose to use them) will be less than one service likely anyways.
Now, I can do anything on a bike, except build a wheel. I have money and time, but I still do my own repairs and upgrades because I am impatient, and don't want my bike sitting around someone else's shop waiting to get attention. I hate missing rides more than I am afraid of making beginning mechanic mistakes and learning how to work on a bike. This is opinionated, but how can you be a well rounded MTBer if you don't do your own work? Things will break on the trail. The whole rig will need tuning and retuning. You will want to not only choose the best upgrades, but upgrades that actually fit your specs for your bike.
It is not a moral issue by any means, but I feel if I didn't know how to fix or build a bike I would be missing out on a lot in the sport, not least of all some very performance oriented aspects of the sport.
Anway, I am always embarrassed by males that do not work on their own stuff. It's one thing to pay to do it due to time, and another to pay to do due to lack of understanding. I fix computers (IT Tech by trade), cars, plumbing, house problems, electrical, bikes, woodworking etc.
It's very easy to learn the wrong way to do things outside of the professional setting, and you don't know what you don't know. When you bring your bike into a shop, you're going to people who (hopefully, I know not every shop is great) know what they're doing- because the art and science of bike repair has been passed down to them by others.
I'll say this- do most of the general stuff yourself. Let the shop handle the big stuff, and every year (or two) bring it in for a good old fashioned tune up by someone else. Oh- and don't forget to tip 'em- After all, us poor young bike mechanics (the good old days to be honest) are people too, and could really use the cash!
Well i did, and by 99/00 i had my own lbs up to 07. Today i only work on my bikes or on close friend´s bikes and still love doing it.
The tone of this article feels anti bike shop. Which is unfortunate. Yes, there are some shitty shop people out there. But there is also a lot of really great people who are on a mission to help riders have more fun. I've always believed having a good relationship with a shop adds to the experience. I'm also very handy with a background in all kinds of blue collar skills. However, when I want something done right the first time, I go to the professionals.
Yeah…it’s called profit margins, it’s how a business affords to remain in business, and pay employees. Shops and service centers get dealer cost after being verified with the company as a resale entity, customers and consumers get retail. That’s how that works.
A shop has to calculate all of their costs of overhead, ie electrical, rent, mortgage, employee wages, and taxes. On any given day, their profit margin off of labor can barely be breaking even, or a even a loss. On good days they profit off of their labor margin. Having a set margin on goods allows a consistent margin to help keep the doors open and lights on. If on large sales, or services they feel like being generous and discounting their labor or products, that is up to them, but shouldn’t be something consumers expect to happen.
You are more than welcome to tinker and work on your own bike all you want. But criticizing shops who have gone through the effort of setting up a business, buying (renting) a brick and mortar retail/service space, hiring employees who they try to pay well, all so they can support and build a community around bikes and the joy of biking will get you nowhere. The only thing you’ll get from this is kicked to the back of the service line, and fairly charged for every second of service you require.
Go start a business please and then come back to this thread and review your philosophy.
Saves me a ton of money too. Hourly labor charges at the LBS aren't cheap.
When you start to understand using specific spoke types and gauges in leading and trailing circumstances, along with specific tensions in these cases, and how it results in ride quality, you’ll have a better understanding of the complex intricacies that go into building the highest quality wheel possible. This isn’t something that is learned through building one or two wheels, but hundreds.
"Marketing innovations" always seem to sacrifice ease of service for minimal performance benefit. What is the next thing that looks good, but will make servicing my bike a pain in the ass?
best have the money and be at the mercy of others : )
If I do come up against something that I’m not sure on, then the bike goes in for a mechanic to look at.
I just pulled all the grease from my brand new 36 factory airspring - it rides much nicer now that its missing the 100g or more of grease from the Negative air spring side.
Everybody should be able to:
Adjust Derailleur
grease pivots and torque correctly.
and change basic seals on fork/shock
bleed brakes
Generally everything else like Wheel true, big suspension services etc are fine to go down to the shop.
Should also be mandatory for every Person who buys a complete with Sram brakes they are taught how to bleed them correctly so they cant come on social media and whinge.
The first couple times might take longer than a trip to the shop, but once you know it by heart you'll often knock out a repair in less time than it'd take you for both trips (drop-off and pick-up).
And you have the satisfaction of having the job done right and maybe save some cash.
Not to mention the benefits of trailside repair skills............
I'm not rich enough to afford the GG or Canfield that I'd love to get so I built my own bike with modern parts and an old classic 05 Cannondale Prophet frame. I did a full 27.5 conversion, 1x11, fox factory 34 150mm, magura mt5s etc. That took me years to get to and it's never done. The geometry is weird, the regressive single pivot limits shock options etc, but it's what I can afford. I'm fine with that. Ride what you got.
I like wrenching almost as much as I like riding.
...But no one ever says, "the bike shop can't fix your bike on the side of a trail."
Learning how to wrench is invaluable.
Obviously its subjective, if you aren't open to finding value in the experience you aren't going to, but for me it is something I actually enjoy and it does make the experience of riding different for me.
I also like working on my old jeep, brewing my own beer, and working on my friends' or local kids' bikes. I am busy but I want make time for things I find rewarding, after all soon we'll be dead.
For a start, should we send to the LBS for replacing of bearings on a full sus bike?
Part of me thinks a Pro would have had the same problem, but then it would have been their problem and they have the tools, experience, and access to parts to fix it. I do most of my own service, but only jobs I know I can handle with the parts and tools I have on hand if something goes wrong.
Also top tip, use a plastic mallet. A rubber mallet for tent pegs also works for a lot of things
The tech in this video was way rougher than I thought I was being. They make it look so easy! Just a couple quick taps!
tune-ups, oil changes (car and bike), nearly any parts installs all take less time with cheap tools than both shop round-trips
No spares and no YouTube video, only o-rings...
You mention in the article about cheap derailleur hanger tools and then 2 sentences down go on to talk about why would you pay a mechanic to use an "over-priced tool."
You also talk about the merits of building and lacing your own wheels then a paragraph down say "But I'm not talking about re-shimming a damper or even lacing a new wheel"
"You mention in the article about cheap derailleur hanger tools and then 2 sentences down go on to talk about why would you pay a mechanic to use an "over-priced tool." Totally, because some of them cost too much money and some of them cost way less but do the same thing.
"You also talk about the merits of building and lacing your own wheels then a paragraph down say "But I'm not talking about re-shimming a damper or even lacing a new wheel" Totally, because it'd be cool if everyone looked after their own wheels and I will always encourage people to do that, but I really want people to just look after their own damn bikes.
What if rather than your derailleur hanger being bent its the derailleur cage, frame alignment, bent links in chain, bent teeth on the cassette, worn components such as chain, cassette, pulley wheels, clutch and so many more possibilities.
"Bikes aren't hard" - So the 100's of different industry standards make them simple? Certain jobs such as barrel adjusters are simple to learn and definitely something everyone should do, but there is still so much more than that.
Lacing / building a wheel to a high standard is something that you find loads of full time mechanics still can't do, especially to a standard that will live up to the abuse that the Pacific Northwest throws at them
I'm not trying to belittle what pro mechanics do, but I do believe that 90% of repair jobs are relatively easy and most people are able to do them, even if they won't. As for industry standards, they can certainly suck but Google is your friend when you need to figure out what bottom bracket or brake adapter you need.
Bikes aren't hard. Rebuilding a damper or lacing a wheel takes a bunch of knowledge and tools but no, the day-to-day repair jobs that most of us should be doing are not hard. You do not need to be a professional bike mechanic and talking like that discourages people from working their own stuff.
And here's the kicker for me: I CARE about my bike. I've seen an awful lot bikes come out of bike shops with work done on them that was absolute proof that the mechanic didn't care if it the work was done right, incompetent, or both.
Exactly. Some of my friends who send their bikes off to shops for maintenance had more problems afterwards than before. Some bikeshop mechanics put grease on pivot bolts instead of loctite. Guess what happened in the bikepark?
If you don't know the mechanics that work on your bike, they can cause a problems. So always try to do most things yourself and you can't blame anyone else for f*cking up your bike.
And if you ride RockShox suspension, even a damper rebuild is no rocket science if you have the right tools. Their documentation is very good
Or at least it seems that way, based on my annual re-learning of how to bleed brakes.
(Engineers are the worst customers I have: they think they are genious and that maintaining a bike is "so simple"... whereas they can barely inflate a tyre or turn a screw in the right sense).
In Toulouse most engineers work for Airbus aircrafts or for the aerospace industry and that's exactly the kind of discourse I'm often subject to... and they also like to discuss the price whereas they earn pretty good wages. My answer is: "10% on the bill = 10% on a plane if I buy one?". I love them so much...
To get rid of pad rub (assuming the rotor is straight, if your rotor is real bent you have to bend it back) do the following steps: take pads out, push pistons back in, put pads back in, loosen caliper bolts, then the key here is to slip an index card or business card in between the pad and the rotor, then pull the brake lever several times and hold it tight while you tighten the caliper bolts. Remove the cards and boom no more brake rub.
Also regular returning customers tend to receive discounts on parts/labour which often makes it cheaper, unless you fit it all yourself then fair play i wouldn't disagree with you
It's cool though. Attempted wrenching certainly helps pay the bills.
But I agree.
Also, you don't make much money because bike shops often don't make much money and the amount of work can be heavily dependent on weather and the seasons, not because I wrote a thing saying people need to learn how to maintain their own stuff
have the money and be at the mercy of others : )
I don’t think so, it’s like a lego mechanic.
nothing pisses a professional mechanic off more than some airhead who just powerwashed his bike on full blast and now is complaining of a "weird creaking noise". But it doesn't make sense because they know so much about bikes and do all their own work just like they did on their dirtbike and they have a degree so it's not like they don't know how and blah blah blah......