2019 Pinkbike Awards: Suspension Product of the Year

Dec 5, 2019 at 17:39
by Mike Levy  
2019 Pinkbike Awards


Suspension Product of the Year


This time of the year means Christmas lights, mistletoe, and arguing in the comments about how so-and-so should (or shouldn't) be included in the annual Pinkbike Awards. Looking back, 2019 wasn't exactly a banner year for completely new and exciting suspension products, and it felt especially quiet after Fox's Live Valve and Grip2 damper, as well as Trust's linkage fork, all made 2018 rather interesting.

Modern suspension has gotten so good that it takes a lot to make a really appreciable leap forward in performance, and that simply didn't happen in 2019 - it was a year of refinements rather than revolution in the suspension world. Ultimately there wasn't one all-new product that ended up offering a significant performance increase over what was already on the market. So for that reason, we've decided not to award an overall winner - the Suspension Product of the Year title will be vacant for 2019.

Don't get us wrong, there are a ton of amazing suspension products out there, including the Marzocchi Bomber Z2 that is currently vying for the Value Product of the Year title. It's just that there was no all-new product that stood head and shoulders above the rest that we feel can lay claim to being the product to move suspension forward.

While there won't be a single winner declared for 2019, there are already several new products on the horizon and we get the feeling that 2020 will be a big year.

In the meantime, read on to learn more about three products that turned our heads and warranted some extra recognition. There's the Italian-made EXT Storia shock, with its hydraulic bottom-out feature that's the stuff dorks like me dream of, as well as the Öhlins RXF36 and Lyrik Ultimate, which both received updates that took them from 'Damn, that's good,' to 'Daaaaamn, that's really good.'









If you're going to call yourself Extreme Racing Shox, you should probably make some fancy stuff and charge a lot for it, which is one way you could describe their enduro-focused Storia Lok V3. Not exactly breaking news: Spending 799 Euro on a 'made just for you' shock results in some impressive performance. When Kazimer reviewed the third generation of their custom-tuned EXT Storia Lok back in August, he said things like ''The Storia made it feel like there was a layer of memory foam over everything,'' and used phrases like ''extra traction'' and ''Levy is faster than me.'' Okay, he didn't say the last one, and let's all be honest with ourselves and admit that bolting on a Storia probably won't make most of us any faster.

So, why's it here? EXT has managed to fit a hydraulic anti-bottoming feature into the shock by placing a second piston where you'd usually only see the bolt on the end of the damper shaft. As the shock nears the end of its stroke, this piston enters a cup-shaped tube inside the end of the shock body, which, if you know how oil and displacement work, ups the hydraulic pressure to resist bottoming. EXT says there's a 50-percent increase in the force required to compress the shock during the last 15-percent of the stroke, and we believe them; it's an impressive and useful feature. It's also not new, with designs similar in principle being used by Manitou, Fox, Avalanche, and others, but it's especially beneficial inside of a coil-sprung shock.
EXT Storia Lok V3 review
The Storia is pricey, custom-tuned for you, and made in Italy. Its hydraulic bottom-out feature is very effective.

From the review:
bigquotesThere's no denying the fact that the Storia Lok is a specialty item, designed for riders who want to eke the most performance possible out of their bike. It's a luxury, not an absolute necessity, but the Storia does deliver a very high level of custom-tuned performance. Mike Kazimer






Öhlins has a hell of a history, with so many victories and championships during the last forty-three-years that they're probably using trophies as paperweights at their Swedish headquarters. But practically all that heritage comes from their motorized exploits, so what about the mountain bike stuff? A lot of us dorks peed our pants in excitement when Öhlins started doing bicycle suspension, but it hasn't been the smoothest of rides so far. Early shocks sometimes felt over-damped and consumers were having reliability issues, while rumors of casting misalignments meant that some of the forks couldn't match the smoothness of Fox or RockShox.

But the new RXF36 M.2 has been nothing but impressive.

''Traction was there in bundles and built into creamy support when the energy inputs got higher,'' PB Tech Editor Dan Roberts gushed in his November review of the RXF36. ''The fork blended away, and it felt like I had a direct connection with what was going on at the ground,'' he went on to say. You can get a coil-sprung version, or the trick three-chamber air-sprung model that Roberts loved so much. Both types use their twin-tube damper, the TTX18, with 18 referring to the piston diameter that happens to be the same as what's used in the DH38 fork. It's as good - or maybe even better - as anything else out there, and the three-chamber air spring offers next-level adjustment.
Photo Ga tan Rey
You can't tell from the outside, but there's gold in that TTX18 damper.

From the review
bigquotesLot’s of talk about the “zone” makes it sound like it’s all to do with the rider. Not as much consideration seems to be given to the other products in the chain between the rider and the ground. A product that quietly goes about doing its job so well that it just leaves you to ride, nothing else, should be recognized as one of the keys to entering this “zone.” One of these products is the RXF36 m.2. The RXF36 elevated my riding experiences, had my back in all situations, terrains, riding moods, and provided an inspirational whisper in my ear to go faster and ride harder. Dan Roberts







RockShox didn't need to do much to improve the Lyrik and, truth be told, the previous version would have kept riders happy for many seasons to come without any updates. But updates are what RockShox/SRAM does, and the revised Lyrik gets both the new Charger 2.1 damper and changes to fight friction.

The Lyrik Ultimate (and all of their Signature Series forks) gets new SKF seals that are said to be just as seal-y but slipperier than those they're replacing, and there is also new Dynamic Seal Grease and Maxima Plush damping oil.

Speaking of damping, Charger 2.1 gets a lighter high-speed compression tune, a more usable low-speed range, and updates to the internal architecture for better control of the oil. Kazimer's spent a good amount of time on the latest Lyrik, and while the changes aren't of the day and night variety, the fact that they've improved an already impressive fork is, well, impressive.
RockShox 2020
The high- and low-speed compression tunes have been changed for the new Charger 2.1 damper.

From the review:
bigquotesBut once things got rockier, and the size of the impacts increased, the new model felt noticeably calmer. Mike Kazimer





While there was no clear winner for us this year, the EXT shock and updated forks from Öhlins and RockShox certainly earned acknowledgement. We'll have to wait another twelve months before a new title is up for grabs. So, what suspension component or idea - something that would make an appreciable step forward in performance or comfort - would you like to see come to life in 2020?







156 Comments

  • 111 6
 I hate my Pole Evolink, mostly because Leo is a twat. The only reason I keep it is because it came with an EXT Storia and it's good enough to justify keeping the bike.
  • 21 3
 I’ll second that first comment
  • 33 4
 Pole is like the modern day version of Ellsworth. I’m sure Tony and Leo would be best buds.
  • 27 0
 Legit question, is it only Pole/Leo's response to the bike breaking in the PB Field Test that has people up in arms towards Pole? Or are there other contributing factors?
  • 8 1
 @ckcost: Nah. Personalities like that would be at each other's throats. There can only be one supreme genius.
  • 7 1
 @connorjuliusjohnson: just check some of their replies in their Facebook page.
  • 14 1
 @connorjuliusjohnson: Check his interactions with vorsprung. Twat status confirmed.
  • 4 0
 @connorjuliusjohnson: they've screwed a lot of the people who pre-ordered bikes apparently too. Bike were supposed to ship this spring and some still haven't gotten bikes from what I've heard.
  • 8 0
 Do you guys really say 'twat' in Canada? Genuinely learned something today.
  • 16 0
 @priest55: we do now
  • 22 30
flag jaydawg69 (Dec 19, 2019 at 12:28) (Below Threshold)
 Leo is a designer trying to be an engineer.... plus his attitude reminds me of Trump and his minions remind me of Republicans.
  • 5 4
 @priest55: They pronounce it twot. For the record guys, it's pronounced tw@
  • 2 0
 @excavator666: I always thought it was pronounced Twot if you were just saying it in passing but if you were really fired up and wanted to really mean it you said Tw@
  • 6 1
 @Tmackstab: Nope, always tw@
  • 14 8
 You hate your bike because you think the owner of the brand is a twat? That's a first. I tend to dislike a bike based on performance myself...geo and suspension play a big part.
I really like my Pole Evolink 176 and have to say it is the best bike I ever rode other than a Nicolai G1 I tested last summer.
  • 6 4
 Dude, that is just how finns are. I have some finnish colleagues, and they are a great and proud people who like to do things the "finnish way". So don't take offense, but rather learn to understand them and you will see that while they may come off as arrogant, it’s just because they like to see things done properly and right.
  • 3 0
 @SintraFreeride: Love the bike, hate the brand.
  • 7 2
 And for those who are interested in the Pole vs. Vorsprung part can find it here. Leo isn’t unreasonable in my opinion. He thinks different, but thats what has brought geometry forward so tremendously the last few years. Everyone is approaching Evolink-numbers now.

nsmb.com/articles/vorsprung-tuesday-tune-advanced-bike-geometry-ii
  • 4 3
 @comodo

Brahahahahaha!

"don't take offense"... just realize that only their way is "proper and right".
  • 3 0
 @Tmackstab: didn't you break yours and waited for months and $ to get it fixed?
  • 9 0
 @jaydawg69: yeah it wasnt the greatest experience. Right now theres a new crack showing on the rear triangle and honestly, I'm going to ride it until it breaks. Then I'll sell the EXT Storia and probably run over the frame with my Tundra. I'd rather do that then deal with them every again.
  • 4 0
 @excavator666: yeah, but you are Irish. We say crack a forty, you say crack a farty.
  • 1 0
 @comodo: so Vorsprung says Deviate
  • 2 2
 @Tmackstab: love my Evolink 140 - best bike I've ridden by a country mile.
  • 1 0
 @priest55: all the time.
  • 1 0
 @Tmackstab: that's the French-Canadian pronunciation
  • 8 2
 Can I hate it simply because it's ugly and it looks like it was designed by 3 different people who all had a 'say' in the final design...?
  • 2 1
 @WasatchEnduro: Obviously that’s not what I’m saying, but if you go back 5 years who do you think was right about the future of bikes? Leo or "everyone else"?
  • 1 0
 @WasatchEnduro: smacks of the Chinese communist party!
  • 2 0
 @TenBeers: Also for the record, yes that word is phonetically pronounced crack, but is actually spelled "craic".

It's a Gaelic word which can generally be used to refer to anything from fun to the status of any given situation.

Trust me on tw@ though, there is only one way to pronounce it.

Pronouncing it twot, would be like us pronouncing Twinkies, Twonkies.
  • 1 0
 @Tmackstab: Fair enough.
  • 8 0
 @comodo: I agree. However, it was Chris Porter/Geometron that built on Mondraker's longer geo and has pushed new school geo. Pole has similar numbers but they were second to that game.
  • 4 1
 @SintraFreeride: Yeah Mondraker was the real innovatør here, but Pole did it different from Porter by using bigger wheels, longer offset forks, and higher(!) bottom brackets, and even slacker angles.
  • 4 0
 People, can we focus on the main issue here.....it's pronounced twAt. okay...
  • 4 0
 @comodo: Higher bb and bigger wheels but not slacker angles. I'm not denying Pole's contribution just saying Chris Porter was the first innovator.
  • 2 0
 @comodo: Properly and right. Uh huh.
  • 2 1
 Pole isn't near as slack as the Geometron.
  • 4 0
 @connorjuliusjohnson: I don't get it. My evolink is the best bike I've ever owned. I'll buy a Pole for my next bike as well.
  • 34 1
 Based on the comments on the Field Tests and the "of the year" awards I've decided to get out of mountain biking. Apparently everything sucks so bad that it's unrideable.
  • 9 0
 haha, ya if you try to ride a bike older than 5 years I hear you are putting your life in serious jeopardy. When i rode my 1998 stumpjumper down the paved path in my river valley, I had near death experiences over and over. unrideable it was for sure. Mostly because it didn't have a dropper or any carbon fibre.
  • 4 0
 The scene is blown
  • 1 3
 @mtbgeartech nope... some are just better than others.
  • 3 0
 @gorideyourbikeman: Don't forget the totally unridable geo, anything steeper than 65° HTA is bad even for tarmac.
  • 1 0
 It's a terrible feeling to have a great power taken away from you, one that you used in earnest to progress to greater challenges/heights.

What you guys are doing is akin to saying, I was born blind, stop being so dramatic about suddenly going blind. Just stop trying to live like you had sight, and adopt a routine where even basic things are challenges.
  • 25 2
 I would have bet money that the Trust fork would have been in here! Just when I think im getting to know you PB LOL
  • 20 12
 Disappointed indeed. Lyrik Ultimate instead of Trust - oh dear. That’s like giving car of the year nominee to Volksvagen Golf
  • 9 2
 The Message came out in 2018, although we reviewed it this year: www.pinkbike.com/news/review-6-months-on-the-trust-message-linkage-fork.html
  • 9 3
 @mikelevy: Shout shout let it all out Smile
  • 4 1
 @lbsteinm: Nope. @mikekazimer has a review coming up soon.
  • 6 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Golf should be car of the year every year!
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Geez, haven’t heard much about it since then, and haven’t seen a single one in real life. Guess maybe it wasn’t that big of a deal...
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: The Golf won car of the year in 2009 and 2013, i.e. last 2 gens both won it. I don't think the mk8 will but you never know.

On the other hand, you could say that nominating the Trust would be like giving CotY to the Pontiac Aztek.
  • 1 1
 @bananowy: I know Golf wins car of the year award quite often, in all possible dorky car magazines. I come to Pinkbike for a bit of freshness, if I wanted to see Golf win a test, I’d go to Bike radar (even though they got better) or Cycling News... or one of those bloody quasi roadie German mags...
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I know and not saying Golf would be my first choice, but expecting PB to choose Trust really is like expecting Top Gear (kinda the Pinkbike of cars where BikeRadar would be AutoBild) to select the Aztek. And I wanted to say Mutipla at first but I bit my tongue because underneath the fugliness the Multipla is actually good at what it's meant to do.

In fact I think the dorky German rags will be the first ones to give Trust any awards. The thing would look great on an enduro bike with triple chanrings, bar ends and slicks.

[EDIT] Speaking of TG, even they had the Golf as CotY (mk5 GTI), there's no escape from ze Germanz Wink
  • 2 0
 @bananowy: I cannot agree with your Aztek analogy. Trust is like Tesla Truck. It’s awkard/ unique and necessarily optimal for what it’s meant to be used for, but it is still a high class, quasi snobbish product. Aztek is some working class attempt at being different, like Marin or Polygon
  • 13 1
 "let's all be honest with ourselves and admit that bolting on a Storia probably won't make most of us any faster"

On the contrary, a suspension upgrade like this is exactly what's going to make anyone faster.
  • 5 4
 Then EXT isn’t much more expensive than Fox DHX2
  • 2 0
 I got one about six months ago. It's great, not saying that the other high performance coil shocks I used were bad. They just somehow made it better, particularly with the super low pressure inside. It just seems more accurately consistent.
  • 4 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I’ve seen 2019 DHX2s priced at 850€ incl SLS spring. Storia is 800 iirc, and you get two springs, custom tune etc.

All the comments just make me want one even more.
  • 3 0
 @Upduro: And the price of the DHX2 doesnt include a custom shimstack for your frame/ riding style.

If you got the money, go for it.

And you can swap it over to another bike and get it tuned again- and I bet it this will be chaper than on the DHX2
  • 1 0
 @NotNamed:
EXT apparently don't do that any more, but if they do, it's at the cost of a full service I believe.
Who cares, it's totally worth it IMO
  • 1 0
 @NotNamed: @Upduro - nobody in their right mind buys DHX2 at MSRP, and at least in the past, if you bought any shock from TFTuned you were getting the right shimstack from the beginning. My friend got his for 650€ incl. shimstack. The issue with Storia is who will service that for you? International Shipping costs increase the total price over few years of use by a fair amount. Fox and RS can be serviced in most major cities around the world.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: If you followed EXT on Facebook, you'd see that they have been training people from all around the world to be their service providers.
  • 14 2
 Ouch for Manitou Mezzer. Not even honorable mention.
  • 12 2
 The initial review was utter crap the test model had a bunch of bushing play. Doesn’t sound like it deserves any mention
  • 7 3
 When Manitou forks have been suffering from bushing slop for over a decade, and they can't get rid of it in their new fork, it doesn't deserve an honorable mention.

I used to be a Manitou fanboy, and their customer service is great, but after my 3rd fork in a row had bushing slop, well shame on me for falling for it again, but I was done with them.

Feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but I spoke with someone who worked for Manitou a few years ago, and asked them how they STILL haven't fixed their bushing issues after all this time. His reply was "they just don't care"
  • 1 5
flag matixsnow (Dec 19, 2019 at 12:33) (Below Threshold)
 My lyrik and pike have plenty of slop but no issues with it.
  • 9 1
 |"The Storia is pricey, custom-tuned for you, and made in Italy. Its hydraulic bottom-out feature is very effective."


Check your facts... The Storia with two coils is very competitive price wise compare to a Fox, Rockshox etc (that are priced without any coils).
  • 31 20
 This is a freakin sad list for suspension product of the year.
  • 2 0
 Get on an EXT and then come back... It's great stuff.. I talked to couple EWS teams using it and they just had to check the bike and tires many times when they bolted it cause they could not get used to the initial sensitivity of the shock, with proper midstroke support, this having pro mechanics setting them up...
  • 12 0
 Nice. Thanks Pinkbike!
  • 7 0
 My Lyrik Ultimate is so good. Super happy with it.
  • 5 1
 I really want a Storia. But I fear that I will just look like a twat because my riding skills aren’t nearly good enough to spend 800€ on a coil shock.
  • 9 0
 You will, I do, I don't care
  • 1 11
flag mtb-scotland (Dec 19, 2019 at 9:43) (Below Threshold)
 don't because it won't work any better than a tuned £350 shock
  • 1 12
flag mtb-scotland (Dec 19, 2019 at 9:53) (Below Threshold)
 @a-knight-gring: nope, I'm making an educated guess. have read quite a few people having issues with the shock as well as issues with the quality of the spring.
  • 9 0
 @mtb-scotland: you are conflating “educated” with regurgitated.
  • 1 0
 @mtb-scotland: I don’t think that’s true. Now you’re average person would be better off cost wise with a mid level shock and a custom tune yes I agree. That being said if cost isn’t a deciding factor, a high end custom shock tuned for and sprung for a specific ride style and weight is magical. There is no substitute for pure control and forgiveness.
  • 1 3
 Nope. There were two parts to my comments. First part was about how they are unlikely to be any different from another tuned shock while the second was on what issues people have had with them. First part is educated second part is relaying what some owners have gone through with it.


@CircusMaximus:
  • 1 1
 I’m not saying it isn’t a good shock it’s just not any better than the other good shocks out there. @cougar797:
  • 1 0
 It is actually 800+vat+shipping+hardware so it ends up more like €1150. Still super happy with mine but it is an eyewatering amount of money.
  • 1 0
 @mtb-scotland:@mtb-scotland: So my recent shock history is this; - on a SB6 and Hightower LT
CCDB CS Air (shockwiz tuned), CCDB CS Coil, Fox Float X2 (shockwiz tuned), EXT Storia LOK 3

All very good and highly adjustable shocks.
The storia feels like none of these. Sure, it goes in and out, but the sensation to what you feel underneath you, none of the previous shocks I used felt the same.

The DB Coil CS was the closest, then the Float X2 and then the DBAirCS. But again, none of the shocks come close to the sensation of the ground underneath you like the Storia.
  • 6 1
 no grip2, no smashpot... sadface. jpg
  • 2 0
 Grip2 won last year didnt it?
  • 5 2
 No Trust Message or Shout? I’m pretty sure those are the biggest developments in suspension tech this year but f*ck it, you include a Lyrik
  • 11 1
 The Message was released last year, and won an Innovation of the Year Award at that time.
  • 1 3
 Would be hard to agree with this comment more. Trust delivers (at true commercial scale) a full carbon, linkage fork. A LINKAGE F*CKING FORK. And somehow it is left off the list for a boutique coil shock and two attempts to catch up to the Fox 36. Trust didn't even make the Innovation list, no less.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Could we at least get a shout-out for the Shout then? None of the other suspension products offer even close to the amount of technical innovation that Trust has.
  • 8 1
 @samslichter @KJP1230: The Message was reviewed last year and won an award. That said, it wouldn't win the SPOTY award regardless; it does some great things but it's too flawed for the majority of riders. The Shout review is coming up, but it doesn't deserve to be on this list, either.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Ok thanks for the answer. Maybe if there was an award for technical innovation in suspension it would have a chance but it makes sense to go with the products everyone knows are tried and true.
  • 1 0
 @samslichter: I think the Trust abomination might stand a better chance if it was actually better, not just different for the sake of being different. And, yes, I have ridden it. Its a hard pass for me.
  • 1 2
 @samslichter: technical innovation? How are the sales doing actual reviews doing? Have motor bikes accepted linkage forks? I don't Trust it.
  • 1 0
 @garrisond5: Idk if you actually have, because it actually feels great to ride. It isn’t different for the sake of being different lol, there’s actual reasons behind it
  • 2 0
 @jaydawg69: How do sales have anything to do with the tech behind them. And what do motorbikes have to do with mountain bike suspension?
  • 1 1
 @samslichter: MX bikes have a lot to do with MTB suspension. Basically the same thing just in a smaller package. Reviews aren't that stellar and neither are sales. Anyone using the fork on OEM? It also sounds like the 178mm Trust isn't that good as well (see MikeLevy's comment). The tech isn't as good as what it's trying to replace. Nice try though.
  • 1 1
 @jaydawg69: So mountain bike suspension is the same? Why is every single bike not on inverted forks? Why isn’t every single bike on coil springs? Comparing MX bikes and MTB’s is like apples and crabapples. Yes they have similarities, but they are effectively different. I’d imagine a large reason that telescopic forks haven’t been used on MX bikes is the fact that to obtain the same stiffness at those speeds and loads, you’d have to pack in as much material as possible. Not that MX bikes haven’t experimented with them. Here’s an article chronicling linkage forks that were used back in the day, and some highlights of why they worked. motocrossactionmag.com/amp/leading-link-or-missing-link-the-awesome-fork-that-time-forgot
  • 3 0
 @samslichter: well, you're wrong. On all counts. The trust fork rides like garbage. It's only redeeming quality, if you can call it that, is it's lauded cornering ability. Guess what? A rigid fork corners pretty well too since it doesn't eff with your geometry. A rigid fork also shares its bump eating capabilities with the trust fork. I.E. none. The trust fork sucks as far as suspension goes. It is, however, a great tool to separate idiots from their money.
  • 1 0
 @samslichter you just argued against yourself with that article.
  • 2 0
 @jaydawg69: Idk about that. Seems like they said some good things about linkage forks lol
  • 3 1
 @samslichter: so good that no manufacturer is using them.
  • 2 0
 @jaydawg69: Again, why aren’t all MTB’s using coil shocks and inverted forks?
  • 2 0
 @garrisond5: Did you only parking lot test it? Or maybe it was setup wrong for you? It does take some getting used to and it even feels weird after awhile but as a method of tracking the ground, it is better. I’m not some technical suspension expert, but someone like Dave Weagle is, so if you want to argue, go take it up with him.
  • 2 0
 @samslichter: dude... Do you work for these guys? It's terrible. It looks terrible, it performs terrible, it costs more than a complete bike... Shall I go on? I rode the fork for two weeks. All sorts of trails and conditions. It sucks. I was very happy to put an actual suspension fork back on my bike. Let it go bro, you aren't making any sales here.
  • 1 1
 @garrisond5: If it was that bad you should take it up with Trust and Dave Weagle themselves. I don’t understand why you would be so upset and not want to tell them all your problems. And I wish I was being paid! But I feel like you didn’t actually ride it, because all of that would already be done.
  • 2 2
 @samslichter: you should just stop.... you're making yourself look bad.
  • 1 0
 @samslichter: why do you keep calling me a liar because we disagree? I rode the fork at the insistence of my local shop because they value my input. I hated it immediately, but decided to give it a fair trial for the shop. My findings are: I hated it. It's ok if you like it, but stop calling me a liar please.
  • 1 0
 @garrisond5: Tbh, I have no idea if you have rode it but for me and every racer/ ex- racer I have seen loves the stiffness, tracking, service intervals, innovation, and pretty much but not all the forks’ performance attributes. Some people just like different things and that’s fine. But to call it “garbage” when 90% are saying it’s the next best thing in fork performance seems premature and ill-thought.
  • 1 0
 @jaydawg69: Awwww, someone doesn’t want to argue anymore. Cute
  • 1 1
 @samslichter: buy one if you like it so much?
  • 1 0
 @jaydawg69: I don’t have $2,000, nor a 27.5/29” bike. I’m going to once I actually have the $ lol
  • 1 1
 @samslichter: public school I assume?
  • 1 0
 @garrisond5: Yes, or No. Not playing your games lol
  • 3 0
 EXT for the win.
It is next level over DHX2, Sham Ultimate, TTX...

Basicly you couldn’t give it to fox, so didn’t give it to anyone?!?
  • 4 0
 I have an EXT Storia V3 (with coil negative coil spring).
Been riding for 20+ years.
It lives up to the hype
  • 12 11
 The Lyrik Ultimate didn't work well for me. Hugely overrated with zero support. The compression dials do almost nothing untill the final click.
  • 7 0
 I had the same impression from the new lyrik, Push's HC97 damper made all the difference for me.
  • 2 1
 The Charger 2.1 really is very average damper with extra knobs. The HC97 is what that fork needs.
  • 3 8
flag jaydawg69 (Dec 19, 2019 at 14:10) (Below Threshold)
 Lyrik is also not as stiff as the Fox 36
  • 5 1
 @jaydawg69: bullllllllloney!
  • 1 2
 @ridayobike: straight up sunshine...
  • 6 0
 @jaydawg69: Other way around actually.
  • 3 0
 @jaydawg69: ok .... I'll believe you,vehen did they get stiffer? 2-3 years ago they had way more flex, was really my only issue with Fox.... Lyric is a pretty stout package, still pretty hard to bee-liebe
  • 3 6
 @ridayobike: I see the RS boys are coming through.... I have a friend (6'4) who's ridden a new Lyrik and Fox36 back to back.
  • 2 0
 Stopped reading at "creamy support." If that's not a clear winner, what is?
  • 3 1
 No Push HC97 or Diaz Runt? Both are reasonable priced products with great performance increase potential
  • 2 0
 Problem with the Runt is that I don't think they have done a review so I don't think it could get consideration. Super sick product though and probably would be on this list if they did. Or maybe the Lyrik with a runt in it LOL.
  • 3 0
 EXT vs Push?? That’s the real rear battle
  • 1 0
 this entire article and award was just a plot to make us all read the phrase “creamy support” again and slowly drive the whole readership insane
  • 3 0
 I can’t speak for the other products but Lyrik ultimates are so good
  • 3 4
 EXT would have gotten my vote until MRP and Cane Creek started selling Progressive springs. Of course it doesnt ramp up quite as much as the EXT but that’s what bottom out bumpers are for
  • 3 0
 there's more to the EXT than a HBO... you should read the review.
  • 2 1
 Though that may get a linkage fork in here, maybe next year?
Here is Linkie?
www.pinkbike.com/photo/17994253
  • 2 0
 Wheres the Slacker of the year award? Id have a big shot at that one
  • 5 0
 Do we need to take this outside?
  • 5 7
 The EXT yes. Rock Shock too much plastic inside. Ohlins ???? I think I have seen one on a trail.
Formula you can. Swap out Valving with out tearing apart the fork . Coil option.
The Marz fork is a Fox 36 grip damper with a better crown( it does not creak) for 3/4 price of a labled weaker Fox 36.
  • 13 2
 Ever bothered to open up a charger 2.1 damper? It is all nicely machined from top to bottom. Same as with any expensive fork nowadays.
  • 17 1
 @Helmchentuned: comments based on actual experience and knowledge are not welcome here. This PB
  • 1 0
 I'll go build my own lunar lander! With blackjack! And... Sprindex Adjustable Rate Coil Springs!
  • 2 0
 Are you going to do a review on the DVO Onyx SC?
  • 1 0
 Yes its better than everything but heavy but also very stiff. You also need to know how to turn the adjustments correctly otherwise itll suck. Basicly a stiffer more refined diamond. Better customer service than everyone else in the game.
  • 1 0
 How come DVO gets so little mention on PB?
  • 1 0
 Was the Öhlins form recalled because it was ejecting the top cap of the damper into people’s chins?
  • 4 0
 Small details haha
  • 1 0
 I think that was the old one
  • 2 0
 DO NOT BUY OR VOTE Öhlins, bad, fork, bad service.
  • 4 2
 No DVO???
  • 2 1
 Guess the live-valve E-shocks are still too bourgeoisie for the masses.
  • 3 1
 I dont think they work as good as people would like.
  • 4 0
 Funny you say that. A recent bike mag review on the EXT mentioned the live valve and said that it is "not even in the same ballpark" as the Storia.
  • 3 0
 E-valve is the $1000 answer to the $10 question
  • 1 2
 We're guessing the Structure Cycleworks SCW1 is considered a 2020 model?

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