Review: Crankbrothers' Klic Digital Floor Pump + Burst Tank

Jun 6, 2018 at 13:49
by Mike Levy  
Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank


Where the hell were all these floor pumps with air reservoirs years ago when I was using soapy water and a loud, heavy air compressor to cover my shop floor, face, and hair with Stan's sealant? There have never been more tubeless-friendly pump options than now, especially if you need one with a reservoir that can be charged with air before being opened to (hopefully) seat tubeless tires. The Klic floor pump, with its digital gauge and removable 'Burst Tank,' sits at the top Crankbrothers' pump family with a $225 USD.

Yeah, you gotta really be into air to consider this thing, possibly be a bike shop, or at least make a habit of swapping tires around fairly often. The analog version with the Burst Tank is $25 cheaper, or you can get either version without the tank for $125 USD and $99 USD.

Klic Digital Floor Pump + Burst Tank Details
• High-volume floor pump
• Modular design
• 1.4L Air tank holds up to 160psi
• Magnetic hose attachment
• Quick connect digital gauge
• Universal presta/schrader head
• Removable air tank
• Five-year warranty
• MSRP: $225 USD
www.crankbrothers.com

Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
The Klic's digital gauge and hose are stored up in the handle when not in use.


This is the kind of product that, if you do convince yourself you should have it, you'll hopefully own it for a long, long time, and Crankbrothers does have a small parts request section on their website that'll allow you to get tiny bits down the road if you need 'em. There's a five-year warranty, too, so the Klic should be in your tool arsenal for quite awhile... As it should be for $225 USD.

Floor pumps don't exactly make for riveting reading, but the aluminum Klic has some nifty features worth covering. The first is the digital gauge that is stored loosely up on the handle to keep it out of harm's way when it's not in use. When you need to use the pump, you pop the digital gauge and hose out of the handle by hand, then click it (get it?) on to the top of the air tank where it's held in place via magnets. The gauge and hose rotate around freely when they're attached to the pump as well.

If you're using the Klic without the 1.4L air tank, the gauge mounts directly on the pump in the same way.
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The Klic's head works with both presta and Schrader valves, but you do need to flip it around to access the other interface. Also, the head threads onto the valve rather than pushing on; I like that it's secure and likely won't bleed air because of that, but you do have to make sure your entire valve isn't spinning or, worse yet, the valve core isn't backing out when you unthread the head. That's always swear-worthy.


Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
The gauge and the air tank attach to the pump body by way of magnets, making both easy to remove and install.


Like other pump-mounted air tanks, the one on the Klic pump is designed to be charged full of air - 160psi in this case - and then you can release that pressure all at once with the flick of the aluminum lever to forcefully seat a tubeless tire whether it wants to or not. Because the air tank is removable to use wherever you might need it, it's not a matter of just flipping the switch to fill it if you want to use the gauge with the tank, then reversing the switch to empty it.

To charge the Klic's air tank and have the gauge read the pressure in it, you need to screw the hose's Schrader head onto the tank's air valve and then start pumping when the release lever is in the up (closed) position. Once it's full, you back the hose off the tank's fitting, reverse the head back to its presta setting, and you're ready to blow. Update - you don't need to do the hose swap to fill the tank, however, as flipping the switch does the job. The hose swap is only required if you want the digital gauge to read the tank pressure.


Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
Crankbrothers' uses aluminum for much of the Klic's construction, and the pump feels quite solid and stable.



Performance

Whether it's worth $225 USD is up to you and your wallet, but I will say that it looks and feels extremely high quality. It's largely made of aluminum, with some plastic bits at the handle, tank/pump interface, and also the Burst Tank's feet; the fit and finish are nice, sure, but the Klic is also sturdy enough to use as a blunt force weapon and then continue filling your tires afterward. You know, if your trailhead is in a sketchy neighborhood or something.

I've been using it for awhile now (as a pump, not a weapon) to fill everything from the pinner cross-country rubber on my Blur test bike to big meat on some of the enduro sleds in for testing right now, all with zero troubles. It moves a load of air very quickly and is both stable and sturdy, and the digital gauge is accurate (I checked against a few others) and easy to use.


Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
I prefer thread-on heads like the one on the Klic as they're more likely to be air-tight than push-on pump heads, but make sure it doesn't back out the valve core when you undo it.


The Kick moves a metric shit ton of air with each push of the handle; I actually seated a few tubeless tires without using the pump's air tank, just to see what would happen, and had no issues. The modular, easily removable air tank is odd if you ask me, though - I feel like if you can bring the large aluminum air can with you, you can probably bring the rest of the pump as well, so I'm not convinced that it being removable is entirely required.

The process to fill the air tank (and have the gauge read the tank pressure) is kinda annoying, too: You need to unthread the air hose, swap the head around so the Schrader end is facing out before threading it onto the tank's air valve, do your pumping, and then swap the air hose back to presta. It all feels like a bit much when the other air reservoir floor pump I have in my shop only requires that I flick a switch to change between the air tank and pump functions while reading the pressure from both. Update - you don't need to do the hose swap to fill the tank, only to fill the tank and have the gauge read the pressure in it, which wasn't clear in the earlier version of this review.


Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
Crankbrothers Klic Digital Floor Pump Burst Tank
The Klic's digital gauge is accurate and easy to read.


I'd love an air bleed button somewhere on the Klic's hose or head. As mentioned above, I prefer screw-on pump heads because they're essentially always going to make for an air-tight interface, but you do need to pay attention to make sure the valve core is backing out when you undo the head. This didn't happen to me, but it isn't uncommon with any thread-on pump head.



Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesCrankbrothers' MO seems to be to offer sharp looking products that offer some sort of unique performance, and the Klic certainly ticks that first box. As for the second... It's a floor pump, not a set of pedals or wheels, so all it really needs to do is move a bunch of air. The Klic does that well, and the digital gauge and removable air tank are neat, but it's a stretch to say that it's better than other air reservoir floor pumps. It sure looks fancy, though. Mike Levy








174 Comments

  • + 65
 Uhm, this costs more than my air compressor & digital airgun combined. I have to take the time to inflate it manually, and it holds 7% as much air in the tank. Remind me why I want it again?
  • + 109
 Because it works for Enduro tires!
  • + 12
 To be fair, it is pretty but with so many points on of repeated engagement it worries me. Off tho the gas station I go.
  • + 25
 You roll that compressor around with you to the trail head? Bring it to events? Bring it on road trips?

Expensive, $225USD is a rowdy price to pay, but for once it looks made of metal and beefy. See lots of bontrager lfash chargers and that new blackburn pump at events, and in the back of trucks and cars around here.

Also handy in areas where a compressor doesn't really work, due to noise, size, weight. Does it replace a compressor? No.
  • + 51
 Why?

1. Because compressor makes noise and vibration, lots of it, and quite a large portion of human populace does not live in a detached house. If you run your compressor in my apartment building I would not give a sht what are you doing, how important your silly hobby is for you, I’d be giving you sht for disturbance and every other tenant would pat me on the shoulder for it.

2. Because If I had a puncture at the bike park I can go to the car and pick it up from the trunk and reseat the tyre after fixing it without needing to plug the pump to electricity or fill it with fkng diesel.

3. Because I don’t like tech overkill and cheap shit from department stores made by half slave labor. I can use my arms, I can handle it.

I’m thinking about other people in many things I do, but That’s just me though
  • + 8
 But this thing looks quality. I'd go for the compressor as well tho.
  • + 13
 @WAKIdesigns: 4. dat righteousness doe
  • - 11
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 13, 2018 at 4:53) (Below Threshold)
 @nickkk: really? So by what magic when it comes to product quality and manufacture quality a fkng compressor costs 100$? That’s like Oakley Jawbreaker for 25$ from Ali Express. It’s just amazing or rather extremely frustrating how many dummies in this world think that everyone tries to rip them off.
  • - 6
flag jaame (Jun 13, 2018 at 4:57) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: nice one but I've got two floor pumps, one for each valve type, and I paid about $20 American for each for them. The one I use for my tubeless tyres seats them no worries. So in answer to your question of why, I would say there is no reason why, since all of your stayed reasons why also apply to much cheaper pumps.

I would phrase it more like this.

I've got a joke for you. $225 American for a floor pump. Ha ha ha ha ha!

For that price, I want it to drive me to work, cook my dinner and suck my cock. Not necessarily in that order though.
  • + 28
 @WAKIdesigns:
1. I feel you, but I also would argue that you dont need to run the compressor often. I turn mine on to fill the tank maybe once a month. Its also useful for running other things like air tools, paint guns, filling car tires.

2. I can use said compressor to fill one of these and take it with me in the car (personally I do leave my 5 gallon compressor in my car when I go to events). And as a bonus its got enough air to top off car tiers easily, and its stupid cheap.
www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html

3. I mean lets be real, most of these hand pumps are probably made by under paid labor as well. To me, a compressor saves me time, and thats not zero value. But I still use my hand pump a lot too, so meh? Do what ever floats your boat. But at $200 id take my compressor every day of the week.
  • + 7
 @SirHades: Just buy a small air tank and have the best of both. You can get them anywhere from 1/2 gallon up, two or three should be way bigger than you need. Put a couple fittings and hoses on it, fill it with air from your compressor or pump you already have and you are good to go for $75.

edit, didn't see, tbev said the same thing
  • + 11
 Still about half the cost of the Silca Super Pista and about 1/4 the cost of their Ultimate Sachs version... now those are ridiculous.
  • - 7
flag ka81 (Jun 13, 2018 at 5:27) (Below Threshold)
 So funny..
People comments like - in bikepark I will go to my track, get that Klick from the trunk and ...
Wait a minute, if you go to your car than you can use compressor, right?? Because ... it's a car ... and you can take dozens of comressors in a trunk!..

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I can't imagine any real situation where floor pump is needed.
Apartment (not private house) - problem accures only if your building made of paper.
Take that pump with you on trail? Seriously? In bikepack? ))
  • - 15
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 13, 2018 at 5:45) (Below Threshold)
 @tbev:

1. No, walls in most houses around the world don’t clear more than 55dB (that’s 20cm concrete wall), slabs tend to be worse.

2. So i’d need to buy a compressor and a big ass tank, i have a V70 that’s big by European standards and I would not want to take it with me. 3 dudes, 3 duffel bags, ff helmets. Tool case. No thanks

3. 250$ price tag for a floor pump with tank leaves a bit of hope to how stuff is made. 20$ for a floor pump or 100$ for a compressor leaves none. Let’s leave that out. I do buy cheap ass stuff from time to time, I just don’t find pride in it.

I have the Bontrager Charger that I paid 160$ for and I love it for how convenient it is. I can have it under my arm while I am carrying the bike downstairs. Apart from 5 storey up&down run less. Also, my locker isn’t a 2 wagon garage either.
  • + 7
 Porter Cable compressor from Home Depot for $99, Topeak Smart Gauge for $30, boom, done. Bike shop use? Any self-respecting bike shop has at least a 50 gallon compressor in the back, no one is going to dick around with a floor pump at the shop.

And for those who whine about "taking it to the trailhead or bike park", why would you change a tire at the trailhead instead of home? And why not charge your compressor at home and take it to the bike park? Its only 3-6gallons, not that big, but fully charged holds enough air to seat 4 tires. Most modern cars also have outlets in them. I don't mind spending the money for a quality item, but $225 for an imported pump thats probably marked up 200% is a bit egregious.
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: you think this isn't made with slave labour? it most definetly is made by starving chinese kids. I can't wait until this crappy piece of chinese plastic fails and you can throw it in the ocean. An air compressor has multiple uses, are simple and last for decades.
  • + 4
 I’ll stick with the Bontrager Flash Charger. Enough left over for a day trip to Whistler.
  • + 4
 It's a pump. It's too expensive, when all is said and done. It's just a tool to inflate tyres. I can think of literally a hundred things that that money could be better spent on including, but not limited to, food for those half slaves who made my cheap pumps. Do you think the factory workers making a $225 pump in Taiwan are paid better than factory workers making a $20 pump in Taiwan? I haven't got any figures to back this up, but I very much doubt there is any significant difference in their wages, if any at all. I'm sure this pump is much nicer than any pump I would ever buy but that still doesn't make it worth the money. It's just a pump! Ha!
  • + 12
 @jaame: 225$ is an hour with a good hooker or 225 hours with a not so good hooker.
  • + 2
 by the way, if it was maden in U.S. - would you all reconsider?
  • + 2
 I have the same type of setup - small compressor and digital inflator. Under $200 total.
  • + 8
 @WAKIdesigns:

"California Air Tools" makes a compressor that runs at 60dB. That is about the sound level of normal conversation, so it is quiet. It is $100. It will run a finish nail gun. The tank holds 6 liters. You can buy it from a specialty tool store. For $200 you can get a 20 liter unit with an aluminum tank if you are too lazy to remember to drain the water out of your tank once in a while.

That Crank Brothers pump is nice. I already have a couple of compressors to run air tools, as well as a bike specific floor pump.

For me, $225 is far too much to spend on another floor pump.
  • + 0
 @richierocket: buy a compressor for $50 on e-bay ...
  • + 11
 @WAKIdesigns: "I’m thinking about other people in many things I do, but That’s just me though" with the notable exception of this website where we all have to read through pages and pages of trivial rants by you.
  • + 2
 @sngltrkmnd: The Flash Charger works well enough on Maxxis tires, but I've had a more difficult time with Schwalbes?
  • + 1
 I live in a city and the local bike shop has a free compressed air hose outside the shop right on the sidewalk. It's fun to enthrall passersby when pouring in the goop and with the satifying POP! as the beads seat.
  • + 1
 @tbev: to be honest my thoughts were the same on point 3.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: But: www.grainger.com/product/2TWC2?cm_mmc=PPC:+MSN+PLA&s_kwcid=AL!2966!10!8973609785!1102900017635&ef_id=WpHQIAAABTcINzBj:20180613163654:s

buy a $50 air tank. Pump it up with your existing floor pump and existing arms if that is your thing. Keep it in your trunk.

Here's a 1 gallon option if 5 gallons is overkill: www.truckspring.com/products/Viair-1-Gallon-Air-Tank-two-14-NPT-ports__91010.aspx?msclkid=d1c9c01158b11d964b729b301027cc31
  • + 5
 1. All in one solution - floor pump, digital pressure gauge, and tubeless tire burst tank.
2. Modular - you can use any of the functions together or standalone.
3. Mobile - tank is removable / easy to transport.
4. No electricity required.
5. No compressor noise.
6. 1.4 liter tank is enough to seat and inflate 2.5 29" tire with air to spare, or even seat a fat tire on rim.
  • + 1
 @SirHades: #endurotires
  • + 1
 @SirHades: as long as you wear goggles
  • + 6
 @crankbrothers: I completely and honestly agree with the merits and features of your product, and I am pleased that it's earned a good review from PB. speaking for myself, it's terribly overpriced. (Just like the Topeak Blaster at $160)
  • + 2
 @bonfire: no, I use the compressor at the house and carry along a handful of 3$ co2 cartridges for the races and the park. It's still a lot cheaper than the exorbitant price of these pumps.
  • + 1
 @bonfire: Yes. You can buy compressors that are quiet, will pump a 33" truck tire in 3 minutes, and take up about as much space as a lunchbox. They run off the car battery, so you can use them basically anywhere. The one I have includes a pressure switch, so pressure builds in the hose, so it seats beads nicely. It was about the same price as the floor pump above.
  • + 1
 @Beez177: I've only used the pump on my Butchers but I intend to try some Bonti G5s soon enough. I haven't ridden Schwalbes in a few years. Good to know the pump works on Maxxis - I also ride Minions.
  • + 1
 @bonfire: that's why you carry a c02 inflator.
  • + 1
 @crankbrothers: 7. not worth 225$
  • + 1
 @sngltrkmnd: yeah in my experience Schwalbes have a tighter bead. I would say Specialized and Maxxis are similar mounting wise.
  • + 2
 @makripper: better than a wank!
  • + 3
 @crankbrothers: 8. Amusing. Has the ability to make one laugh when looking at the price tag
  • + 2
 @ka81: Made in the USA means nothing to non-USA folk.

To them it's about pride and workmanship (rightly so, they are a patriotic bunch), to others it's often an excuse to jack up the prices for no real good reason.
  • + 3
 @darkmuncan: made for muricans by muricans.
  • + 2
 @makripper: I would take made in USA over any country I have never lived or worked in. My last choice would be made in China. Unfortunately owing to this, I rarely buy anything these days. I'm a bit concerned about what I'm going to do when my fridge kicks the bucket.
  • + 1
 @taletotell: but I have my charger pump and don’t need anything else... it made my inflation related life much easier. I consider it money well spent.
  • - 1
 @jaame: all countries make some complete shit. I mean, intense frames are made in the USA and always breaking, Ikea furniture blows up just by looking at it, Volkswagens catch on fire due to electrical issues. That's just off the top of my head. Companies try to make stuff as cheap as possible while selling for as much as possible. I wish consumers weren't so stupid and over hype andb lie about how great all of their new junk is. It's like it becomes part of them and they get offended if you have a different opinion.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: This is the most European thing I have ever heard. I happily run a diesel air compressor in my apartment building and have received no complaints so far, unless you count the downstairs neighbor shooting at me through the floor.
  • - 1
 @skerby: buying a shitty, super cheap compressor and then a tank from a giant department store instead of going for a small , portable, quality floor pump that does the same, sounds extremely American to me. Unlike whining about price which sounds quite East European - we had a dude like that in our riding pack in Poland - he always had a better deal and laughed at people who were overpaying (according to his standards), he just couldn't help himself raving about losers, suckers, Joeys, dentists etc. Surprised he didn't wear a T-shirt: "Better than you - cuz I buy cheap shit". I see that a lot on Pinkbike.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: why does it have to be shitty if its cheap? they are very simple machines with many uses. That keeps costs down.
Your riding buddy is smart to not overpay for things. challenging the status quo and laughing at people who pay way to much for things. Oh you bought a brand new carbon antidote? what? its outdated after 6 months? thats pretty dumb to throw that much money at something that you can't get replacement parts for.

Everyone should complain about prices and challenge these stupid companies to do better. I know i like my money to go further.

only wanna be elitist a*sholes don't complain about prices and shop around. Rich people do it all the time, thats why they have money. People with less money do it for the same reasons.
  • + 1
 @makripper: holy f*ck, I am looking at this thread and can't believe it, f*cking floor pump congress... I am disgusted with myself.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: that's a reasonable response. I guess this is a niche that is filled differently in Urban locales, and outside of the US. Here we associate success with having a truck and a barn/garage.This pump has limited apeal in that kind of environment.
Elsewhere storage is more limited and sound is more of an issue, but Muricans have trouble seeing the point of a product if it is not designed for us.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: you are just disgusted with yourself now? I thought you lived with that 24/7? I mean you are on here twice the amount I am. I'm on here when i'm bored at work
  • + 3
 Good luck with the compressor in the woods-at the parking lot of your favorite trail head.
  • + 1
 @stikmanglaspell: who needs a compressor in the woods? I check tire pressure before every ride and have never had an issue. also, if i needed, I can toss my little compressor in the box of my truck or the backseat and plug it in to my trucks outlet if i have a dying urge to have a compressor or any pump at the trailhead.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: by not wasting money on silly things, like a $225.00 bicycle pump, maybe you could afford to live in a detached house.
  • + 2
 @tcamp86:
No1 I don’t want to live in a detached house, I am more than happy where I live
No2 Do you have any clue how much houses cost around here?
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: if you have to ask, you can't afford one.
  • + 3
 @makripper: pfff, I can afford one with 5-95% variable rate lifetime mortgage, and I'm not the only one in such situation. Average Swede who bought property in 1980s, early 1990s got it for nothing and earned shit loads. Now unlike many people at my age around here, I do not have possibility to borrow money from my parents or turn their economy into a security for the bank. Basically if you buy a house here you may as well get yourself a nice car and a few bikes, it drowns in 500k $US for a 800sqf 3 room apartment around city center or a small 1600sqf detached house in the suburbs. If you want a 2500-3000 sqf house around the center or a big apartment in the center be prepared for paying 1-1.5mln$. Since 2008 prices went up by 25-30%, that's more than percentual increase in my savings. Car ownership is like 3k$ a year without driving it out from garage, so a 150-225$ pump? pffff... that's penis, I mean pennies. It's like buying cherios.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Agree 100% lol. These colors don't run! I did exactly what you described. Takes all types.

The smart move is to spend like 1000$ on an air compressor, you can do a lot more than just fill tires with them.
  • + 1
 @skerby: pneumatic sex toys alone make it worth it Wink
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: those are Vancouver bc prices. I bought a house with an ocean view a couple hours drive North last year after selling a couple rentals I had for years. Gotta start early with shit and you eventually get somewhere Wink
  • + 2
 @makripper:I work 80% and my wife works 60%, two kids, forget it. The price increase in here used to be so ridiculous that you don't necessarily get anywhere, because so what that you earned 50k on your apartment when that is the less than the increase on the price of the bigger/ better located thing you want to buy as your next property. You get almost to starting point, partly due to state taking 30% of your property sale profit. If you want to treat it as an actual investment you have to sit on at least 50% of the value of the property you want to buy, but if you have less than 30% you have to have some good luck with location and renovate the sht out of it to raise the standard. We were designing a semi-posh block of flats and the sales people from the building company told us laughing: if you have 500k in your pocket this one is a no brainer, you earn 30k before the construction is completed. But it's very hard to blow through the threshold. Currently the increase in prices is going down as dumb politicians are pumping out thousands of flats a few can afford. Construction prices went up more than prices of apartments, same with offices, hotels, factories are barely keeping up with production of materials and prefab elements, waiting time for concrete is almost a year, which makes banks reluctant to give loans to entrepreneurs and people who want to buy apartments. Not in My backyard People opposed to construction in the area get enough time to reappeal to the court, stopping construction again. It's not a bubble growing this time, it's a nasty bottleneck. Unlike 2008 banks are getting picky with giving loans to people. One of major entrepreneurs, our client got a no from the bank because he wanted to build in an unpopular district. Interesting things.

As I said, the era of house/ apartment as property investment is getting over. The boom of 80s and 90s will not come back, the current upcoming generation, the Social Justice Warrior snowflakes is big in numbers, coming from 2-3 kid families and they have no way to live like their parents did. Riding a sweet wave of property price increase of 300% magnitudes. And if your parents lived with grandparents? So that after grandma dies there is nothing to take? If your parents haven't divorced and won't die any soon? And they go on vacation, buy a convertible or a van, Harley Davidson, big ass garden with exotic plants, spending all savings and retirement money? Sorry... you either get some rental apartment or buy something an hour commute/drive from your work place. I am fkng lucky that in Sweden I still get good retirement and social welfare for pennies. It will end in not so distant future, but not for me. If I was to pay US money for all that, huh... I'd be f*cked. Banks are already reaching their dirty hands for fat sums of my retirement money, we had some pricks coming to our office trying to convince us to put our retirement money into funds, the riskier the better but very few took the bait. Incredible a*sholes.

Finally, why would I want to live in a house, fix walls, roof, drainage, mow the lawn, cut trees, all that with two hyperactive kids on my head? I pay 800 a month, If I buy an apartment of same size I'll pay 500 a month to the building owner + interest on mortgage to the bank. So I save 100 a month and all I win is that I can get any kitchen and bathroom furniture I want and paint walls like I want. Not much incentive there. All that while I can just rent anything - house with an Ocean view? I'll just rent a lodge. There's plenty here, wonderful ones. I was renting a car for 2 years. Ownership is a compromise like anything else.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: woah. It's not a boom. It never was. It follows supply and demand. More people in the world equals more demand which overall makes housing value go up. The boom or investment excuse is a weak one used by people who can't afford to buy a place. I know lots of these people. The point is your not giving away your money to a landlord or investment group (who sees the value in property) your money is going into a home you and your family will own one day. I'm going to make sure my will states that my property stays in the family for 100 years. Will be interesting to know values in 100 years.
  • + 1
 @makripper: heh in Sweden you own an apartment in a building that someone else owns, and that someone else charges you lots for cleaning staircase, keeping the inner yard in good shape, electricity, water supply, god only knows what. Like I said, my rent is 800 bucks, if I owned it, it would be 400-500 bucks. So you burn quite a lot of your investment on the landlord anyways. But I live in an olds-chool rental apartment belonging to a semi-private company, it's half private, half-municipality owned, you can call it posh-social housing haha Big Grin But this can mean really luxurious large apartments in the center too. Anyhoo new rental apartments cost 1300 a month and in such case buying makes sense. In mine, it doesn't. Also I have a great location, I can swap apartment no problem, it is desirable. So I am also profiting from living in a remnant of a past era. Furthermore, state took away the law regulating max price per area a full private owner can set for renting their apartment. So people who rented a house or a flat in a full private company suddenly found themselves in ridiculously expensive condos as if previous price wasn't high enough.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: that's not how strata works. Everyone has a part stake in the building and contributes to upgrades. At least here anyways.

That same issue with rental price control is happening in Vancouver. One lease it's 2000$ the next it's 3000$. I despise the governments lack of control on these issues. It's why I got out of owning rentals. It was easy money and I had all the control of other peoples lives in some ways. It's not right.
  • + 2
 The best things about living in a house are, you have your own garden in which you can do what the F you like. You aren't allowed to wash your car in the basement parking (not that you would want to because it's dark anyway) or have a barbecue on your balcony in apartments here. On the plus side, you get a swimming pool in summer. Unfortunately it's usually full of screaming kids. Mowing the lawn is an absolute pleasure. As is having somewhere to play footy with your kids. Personally I wouldn't want to go back to living in an apartment, but I also hate paying a fat mortgage for the rest of my life. It's horses for courses.
  • + 1
 @jaame: yeah, you just can't win these days. Did you get one of those obscene 100 year mortgages?
  • + 1
 @jaame: i lived in a detached house, I don’t miss it yet. I’m not made of that clay.
@makripper: didn’t know it’s called strata. So yes, it is rather high in most cases in here.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: nothing better than roaming around naked in your yard or working on your place and changing things. also playing music as loud as you want etc. you are just more free to do whatever you want.
  • + 1
 @makripper: depends what you define by freedom. For me it is the ability to get the fk away whenever I want, wherever I want. I don’t have it now due to kids. Home is always limiting for me, and house would be limiting me even more with amount of work necessary to maintain it, and I don’t find any pleasure in doing it. Home is a workplace for me. The first job. Meaningful but hard. Freedom is being alone or with friends.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Thats the nice thing about owning your own home. you can be alone, or invite people over. You can work on it as much or as little as you want. With strata money you pay monthly you are also paying to maintain the building you live in. I always go travelling and do things in my life. the house doesn't restrict me. I was just in south east asia for 5 weeks in the spring and i'm going for another 3 in November (this time to vietnam and cambodia) Freedom for me is to do whatever I want, when I want. I have commitments at work, but they understand my need to go and life my life. I guess i'm lucky that way.
  • + 1
 @makripper: No thirty years. Having said that, it's a good nest egg I guess. At least it's massive and I own the land. If push comes to shove we can sell up, move into an apartment and retire.
  • + 0
 @makripper: I have small kids and no parents around it is hard enough to clean a 65sqm apartment and when I finally can it is so inefficient that if I was to maintain a house I would sooner or later kill them and bury them in the backyard. Along with my wife who is giving me sht everytime I lose temper with them. So for next 5 years, my home will be as far from doing what I want to do snd being alone as it gets. I don’t like being home. It’s a fkng grind. If I suddenly woke up being 50 with kids moved out I’d buy a big ass camper.
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 @WAKIdesigns: the fact that you resent your kids/ wife just confirms the type of person you really are. Self centered...Your kids didnt ask to be born, and your wife has every right to give you shit. She would probably divorce your sorry ass but doesn't want to break up the family. Get off the internet for a change and go do something with your kids.
  • + 0
 @Beez177: hahaha, I like it how it all fell together for you. Resent, yeah! Tell me, did you feel elevated when you wrote that? Did you felt the surge of self confidence while you were doing it? Did it feel like your... resentment... found a valve to flow through? As if you exhaled for the first time since some time?
  • + 19
 @mikelevy - the process of filling the burst tank is as easy as flipping the switch to the closed position. Attaching the hose to the Schrader valve on the tank is optional, and only necessary if you want to see on the gauge exactly how much pressure is in the tank. Otherwise you can get a rough idea of pressure by the number of strokes. There's a chart on the side of tank. 40 strokes = ~160psi.
  • + 19
 Those one piece carbon wheels though!
Also, Maxxis Aspen's?! You planning to do a MTB version of Tokyo Drift @mikelevy ?
  • + 2
 They are mounted to Syncros Silverton SL wheels, so appropriate. Review soon, @mikelevy?
  • + 6
 I try to do exactly that every ride Wink
  • + 6
 @dougfs: Yup, review a bit down the road.
  • + 11
 When it's time to change the air in my tires, nothing but a Crankbrothers' Klic Digital Floor Pump + Burst Tank will touch my carbon rims. It looks excellent sitting in my Audi, as well as being a lovely conversation piece in my living room.
You pions can use your air compressors.
  • + 6
 Sure compressors are cheaper, but I like that I can use my Bontrager Flash Charger late at night, early in the morning, and take it to a race or to the accommodation on a trip. And it is quiet the rest of the time too. The gauge on the Flash Charger is out by 5-6 psi, so I like the digital gauge on this. Upside on the Flash Charger is simplicity - no need to move hoses or gauges or flip the press-on head. And I'd use a separate digital gauge anyway until I trusted the CB reading.
  • + 3
 Used my compressor last night without turning it on and its only a 3 gal. Still air for another seating if I should need it too, and it wasn't even full. $20...
  • + 7
 $225!!!...... I feel deflated
  • + 9
 Thats the price of inflation.
  • + 0
 @Boardlife69: that 100% should have been the article title
  • + 2
 @nickkk: but then Mike would be accused of Klic baiting.
  • + 1
 @Boardlife69: Boom boom.
  • + 2
 definitely buys alot of C02 cartridges
  • + 4
 google "joe barnes tubeless" the coke bottle technique works perfectly & cost $2. has lasted 3yrs & has s eated countless tyres. my skf trackpump for £25 back in 1992 was a good investment too...
  • + 3
 we have one at the shop and the thread-on head is a real PITA when it starts to be slightly used. No easily sourcable replacement parts either. The tubeless canister works as mentioned but the volume of air coming out of the hose could be a bit greater, most of the time it's not enough to seat double down casing maxxis tires
  • + 3
 Do you remove the core before giving it a burst?
  • + 3
 To seat my tire I use a small compressor that cost my 45 dollars and then use a floor pump after that. so my total investment is 75 for both that's a whole lot of lift tickets if you ask me.
  • + 8
 About 2 lift tickets. Chill out there with your whole lot
  • + 5
 @mollow: 1 lift ticket in whistler
  • + 4
 @makripper: not even a full day at Northstar. Ironically.
  • + 2
 I actually think it looks pretty nice, and all aluminum construction for $225 isn't terrible. Seriously, it's the price of 2-3 tires. OR the price of 2 rims, which are pretty simple in design/construction/manufacturing.

Two questions.

1. Does the gauge work if not clicked into position, or does air just rush through it?
2. Does the gauge read in .1,.2, or .5 PSI increments?
  • + 4
 1. Yes, the gauge can be used standalone. 2. The gauge reads in 0.5 PSI increments.
  • + 1
 @crankbrothers: 1/4 or 1/3 psi would be nicer with + tires. Sure is a pretty pump, though.
  • + 1
 @SirLapLack: I'd go for the analog gauge.
  • + 2
 Will parts still be around 6 years from now after your warranty is up and it breaks? As far as the usual WAKI RANT goes.....just buy an air pig which is an air tank you can fill at your local gas station with the hose you use to fill your car tires. Air pigs are cheap and come in all sizes and I used one for years before I bought my compresser.
  • + 1
 for the cheapskates that don't want to go this route....if you have a decent high volume floor pump at home already just unscrew your valve core. You can get a really good charge of air without that restriction, good for seating pretty loose tires. Proper tape job still required though....
  • + 1
 wonder how it flows. didn't see this really addressed in the review. the topeak joeblow Booster doesn't flow enough air to seat a mountainbike tire. it has the volume, but the air is restricted such that theres never enough pressure to actually expand a tire.
  • + 4
 Flows? No issues seating or filling any tires, high-volume or not.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: yes the velocity of the airflow with the topeak prevents usage of the pump as advertised.
  • + 1
 Isn't the Bontrager Flashcharger almost half the price, and has a air bleed valve on the universal presta/schrader head?
Don't know if I would shell out an additional $100 for a digital gauge and some gimmicky magnetic bits. Plus, if you have an issue with a Bontrager pump, you have Trek's excellent record with warranty fulfillment.

For me, I'll continue to seat my tires with my Senco air compressor.
  • + 3
 I am not sure I would ever have the money for this / or put this at the top of my to buy list - but it looks awesome , would be great to have for an apartment dwelling mtber.
  • + 6
 One hell of a pump!
  • + 2
 Mike, got any pictures of your face and hair covered in Stan's? Lol.
I learned to seat the bead, then add the Stans. ( Orange Seal these days).
  • + 4
 I do, and you'll never see them.
  • + 1
 Get a plastic funnel, a distributor/spark plug boot, slide the boot over your valve (core removed) shove the funnel in the rubber boot, add sealant.

You can fill semi seated tubeless tires and not spill a single drop of sealant.
  • + 4
 Kashima coat that thing and I'll pay $225
  • + 0
 Get a Bontrager Flash Charger for $100 less and just flip a switch to charge the external tank with an analog pressure gauge. I set several tubeless tires with this and is the trailhead pump of choice without breaking the bank.
  • + 4
 TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS
  • + 2
 LOOK AT THE PRICE!!!
  • + 3
 I am definitely really into air. Air is awesome Smile
  • + 4
 Me too!
  • + 2
 Mike, fess up, I know you use that tank to hide your daily doughnut supply.
  • + 2
 I usually try to hide donuts in my stomach.
  • + 2
 Looks like a well thought out extra nice pump. Wish I already had one. Crank Brothers make some fantastic items.
  • + 1
 Why are you talking about pumps when those one piece carbon wheels are sitting in the background, just hanging out. Don't think we didn't notice Levy.
  • + 1
 Not just in the background, it's actually quite obvious in the valve/pump head close up.
  • + 1
 Can't wait for all the bitching and moaning about the price when the review for those wheels is published...????
  • + 1
 There's even a Pink Bike sticker on the work bench. What is this, PB or something? Oh wait.....
  • + 1
 Soooon. They're on the Yeti SB100 I have in as well. Quite the combo.
  • + 2
 I'm more interested by those carbon mono piece, rim/spoke than by that pump.
  • + 1
 Review soon.
  • + 1
 I hope that's the new Aspen that's in the works, the original / current Aspen is one of the most surprisingly grippy and versatile tyres I've used.
  • + 2
 Don't be hating, Aspens actually grip really well for how they look.
  • + 2
 For $225 I'll get blown for an hour.
  • + 2
 Your comment made my day man !

And I've been using a bontrager flash charger I bought for $100 3 years ago.
I can't remember the last time I had difficulties seating a tubeless tire.
  • + 1
 I couldn't get my most recent front tyre seated. Whispher it but.... I PUT A TUBE IN IT
  • + 2
 wasnt there one of those in that "summer essential" thing?
  • + 1
 cheaper and better too
  • - 2
 It sometimes baffles me how something so simple turned into something so horribly complex. Back in the days you had tubes. You needed a regular pump to inflate them and a patch to fix a puncture. Sure tubeless gives us advantages but the kind of stuff you now need to keep it going is impressive. - A pump with an air tank or a compressor to install the tire. - A portable airtank to get the tire back on when it comes off. - Valve core remover to clean out the gunk from the valve. Granted you had these for regular tubes too, but you didn't really need them. - Dynaplug type stuff to fix a puncture. - And still a tube in case you don't manage to fix your tire on a ride.
  • + 4
 It's not that hard. I've re-seated every tubeless tire I've had with a floor pump and some effort.Trailside repair is the same as a tubed tire: stick in a spare tube and inflate it.
  • - 3
 but yet its soooo cool to ride tubeless BRO. well, I'll be the one with tubes in my tires and extras in my bag when you cant get that tire to seat or slice to close.. Smile
  • + 3
 @laxguy: Last year I gave up my bag because my tubeless setup was so reliable, not to mention the traction difference. Only flat Ive had this year was a tubed tire.

Riding tubeless has nothing to do with being cool its about getting more performance out of your tires.
  • + 2
 Back in the tube days, you had to carry a tube and patches. Patching is a bit of a skill in itself. You could get 3-4 flats in one ride and then you would worry about going too fast because you might get another flat. I'll take tubeless. It's not for everyone. It takes some experience and gear, but it's well worth it. I can't remember the last time I had more than 1 flat on a ride. I can't really remember my last flat or if I even have a tube in my bag.
  • + 2
 Fortunately for you, tubes still exist.

Last I checked they still make them in 26" also, for the real holdouts! Wink

#26"tubesain'tdead
  • + 1
 @PinkStatus: obviously you missed the sarcasm. I will still carry a pack with tubes and continue to provide them to my tubeless friends who flat.
  • + 1
 @derekbob: maybe its been a while since youve experienced tubes, but they arent exactly blowing out multiple times per ride these days. Can't think of the last time I had to replace my tubes.
  • + 1
 Dynaplugs are work great and are super easy to use. I'd rather throw one of those in than monkeying about with a patch kit.
  • + 1
 Harbor Freight compressor $20. Blackburn Pump $6. Slime Tire gauge $2. Bet I can seat more tires, and faster.
  • + 3
 C'est donné !
  • + 2
 With this pump and it's cost you will be definitely ride better.... Big Grin
  • - 2
 I'm not sure if you guys know... but Walmart sells a Bell pump for $16

www.walmart.com/ip/Bell-Sports-Air-Attack-650-High-Volume-Bicycle-Floor-Pump-with-Gauge-Yellow/183592799

Spend that extra $209 on some beer and quit worrying so much about shiny new things.
  • + 1
 I've got the older (white not yellow) version of that pump, it is fine for topping off tires before a ride.... and that is about it. The head is very nice with presta and schrader being separate, but the hose is too short and mine won't push more than 20 psi before it starts to leak pressure internally somewhere and most of the air is lost per stroke. Even when new it wasn't able to set the bead of any of my Maxxis or Specialized tires on a FLOW EX rim.
  • + 3
 Bruh, Jenson $5.99 www.jensonusa.com/Blackburn-Airtower-1-Floor-Pump. It seats well but gauge is useless.
  • + 0
 Old Joe Blow track pump and a home made reservoir from a 1.5L coke bottle has done me well for years. didn't cost 225 of your septic tank dollars either!
  • + 0
 Stans rims + Maxxis tires + ordinary floor pump = easily seated tires 11/10 times
  • + 1
 Trackpump + ziptied Airshot Can = here you go.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy, just curious but is it a metric shit ton or metric shit tonne?
  • + 9
 "Ton" is an imperial unit. "Tonne" is a metric unit. There's no such thing as a "metric tonne", only a "metric ton" which is the same thing as a "tonne".
  • + 2
 @Lornholio: Long ton or short ton? Depends which side of the Atlantic you are, and a long ton weighs more than a tonne, just to confuse things further.
  • + 1
 Long ton, short ton, both oldschool units we had no need to learn in the late 80s/90s in Scottish schools. I remember seeing "ton" in an old schoolbook one time and thinking they spelled it wrong.
  • + 2
 @woofer2609: We need to standardize on the Universal Butt-Load / UBL
  • + 1
 love those syncros wheels
  • + 1
 I thought this was a Segway
  • + 1
 Having a shot out between models would be a blast.
  • + 0
 $225 seems like too cheap of a pump to use on new Syncros Silveryon SL one pieces wouldn't you say?
@mikelevy
  • + 2
 You mean those wheels don't come with a matching carbon pump? I'd return them =P
  • + 3
 I put on my diamond bedazzled gloves before I use the pump on those crazy wheels.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: ha! Nice! Look forward to the review on those puppies too!
  • + 2
 burst the bank too
  • + 0
 Expensive and from crank brothers? Hard pass.
  • - 1
 I wonder just like CB pedals how long it will take to explode? CB - stick to multi tools - please!
  • + 0
 This pump costs more than my frame...
  • + 1
 Costco, free air!
  • - 2
 A pressure vessel should never be named "Burst." That's just dumb. "Hi, were Crank Brothers, remember us? Not only are we unreliable, but now we're just plain dangerous!"
  • - 3
 After all the problems I have had with their wheels and their lack of support (they have never responed to any of my emails) I will never buy anything from them again.
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