Review: e*thirteen's Updated TRS Race 29'' Tire

Jul 28, 2018 at 16:49
by Mike Levy  
Guerrilla Gravity Smash review


When it comes to mountain bike tires, and especially the kind that you'd put on an enduro bike, there's never been more options than there are right now. You've got your go-tos from the names we're all familiar with, but also worthwhile choices from Vittoria, Goodyear, Tioga, and e*thirteen, among others.

And it's e*thirteen's revised 29'' TRS Race tire that we're looking at here. Mike Kazimer reviewed the first version back in 2016, but e*thirteen has since updated its casing to ''improve grip under cornering and braking, decrease rolling resistance, and dramatically increase the tire’s puncture resistance.''

TRS Race 29'' Tire Details
• Intended use: all-mountain / enduro
• Diameter: 27.5'' or 29'' (tested)
• Width: 2.35'' only
• Casing: single ply
• 'Apex' inserts, aramid reinforced
• Compound: Plus, Race (tested)
• Weight: 1,065-grams
• MSRP: $69.95 USD
www.bythehive.com
The TRS Race, or TRSr for short, is available in both 27.5'' and 29'' diameters, a 2.35'' width only, and a single ply but reinforced casing. In a 29'' diameter, it weighs 1,065-grams on my scale, which underlines the fact that this thing is intended for some rough and tumble riding.


Guerrilla Gravity Smash review
It might say single ply on the sidewall, but this is a burly tire.


e*thirteen offers their tires in two different flavors: the TRS series that uses a single ply casing, and the LG1 series with a dual-ply casing that adds around 150-grams (depending on the model) for the extra protection. The TRS is reviewed below, and you can get them in the 'Race' triple compound or the 'Plus' compound that forgoes the ultra-mega-sticky rubber used for the cornering lugs of the TRSr. For the TRSr, you'll find a 72a durometer for the base, 40a at the side knobs, and 42a in the center. You probably already know the story here: a stiff base for support, soft and slow rebounding rubber on the sides for maximum traction, and a bit firmer down the middle for wear resistance.

But if bang for your buck, long-lasting rubber is what's at the top of your list, the Plus' 50a durometer sides and 61a center is probably more your thing.

The fresh TRS sports the same tread design as when it was first introduced back in 2016 that, as Kazimer mentioned in his review, looks a lot like the love child of a Schwalbe Magic Mary and a Bontrager SE5. Their make-believe kid sports some very prominent cornering lugs that also have a long, angled base for support, along with ramped center lugs that have lost a little bit of height compared to the original version.

There are sipes everywhere, too, which allow the lugs to flex and conform more to whatever's under them. These can be especially important when it's slick and sloppy.
Guerrilla Gravity Smash review
The prominent side lugs and relatively low center profile gives the new TRS tire a very square cross-section.

The tread looks the same, but it's laid over a new casing that gives the TRS tire a much squarer profile than it originally had back in 2016. The new casing also sports an aramid layer for cut-resistance and new thicker 'Apex' inserts in the sidewalls for protection. The latter only extends part way up the sidewall to allow the casing to still be supple enough to conform to the ground to deliver traction and relatively decent rolling speed. This ain't your dad's flimsy single ply casing tire.



Guerrilla Gravity Smash review
Tested on Guerrilla Gravity's Smash, the TRS saw everything from bone dry conditions to monsoon-like weather.


Performance

Alright, installation first and no levers needed, of course, with a fit that's tight enough on a set of 28mm internal width Roval wheels that it both required the proper technique and aired up instantly without any tricks. No removing the valve core, no soapy water, and no air loss. In fact, they held bang-on 20 PSI overnight; no sealant bleeding and no bubbles. They're true to width, too, measuring exactly 2.375'' wide. Once mounted, they look incredibly square compared to rubber with a rounder cross-section, like those from Schwalbe.

For comparison's sake, here's a completely unscientific bunch of numbers: From the center of the tread to the top of a cornering lug measures about 6mm of drop, whereas a Baron or Minion is 10 to 12mm. So yeah, a much more square cross-section than many other tires.

You're probably not here to read about the TRSr's climbing performance, but here it is regardless, summed up in one word: Somuchtraction. They're not exactly sporty feeling, sure, but if we're only talking about climbing grip, these things might be the most impressive tire around. A handful of tricky "first ascents" were cleaned with the TRSr tire on Guerrilla Gravity's Smash, ascents that had previously doled out frustrating dabs left, right, and center.
Guerrilla Gravity Smash review
Get on up. If you value climbing bite, you'll like what the TRS tire offers.

Time to descend. In steep, loose, dry conditions, the TRSr might be unbeatable so long as you're happy with a square-shaped profile that offers a different kind of feel compared to something rounder. Traction can be more on/off when talking about such a defined cornering edge, but it was pretty much always 'on' when conditions weren't sloppy. Timed runs on the same steep five-minute trail averaged out to them being consistently between 5 to 6-seconds quicker Minions, which was a bit of surprise. That's an average taken from dozens of runs over countless rides, but all in the dry. When gravity was doing the work, you could brake later and harder than when on Minions, and they roll quicker than a Magic Mary, too.

With such prominent side lugs, some squirm was expected on hardpack, but that wasn't the case at all, with 21 - 23 psi proving to be the go-to pressures for the Smash and the terrain, and with zero burps to report. Cornering is more a matter of courage than traction, with that square edge finding purchase pretty much everywhere in the dry. In fact, they're as predictable as a tire with a rounder cross-section. Braking bite is solid, too, as they're on par with other full-sized burly tires out there.


Guerrilla Gravity Smash review
Timed runs over many, many rides revealed that the TRS was consistently 5 to 6-seconds quicker than other, more common tires, but only in dry weather.


Things aren't so rosy when it's wet, though, with the tire often acting like it was over-inflated, even when it was run as low as 18 PSI. Weirdly, they felt stiff and unforgiving when conditions were muddy and slow and the ground was hard or covered in roots, which is in opposition of their dry weather performance. Swapping out to a set of Maxxis Minions, and then a set of Continenal Der Barons, further underlined this. To be fair, the Baron is probably the best (and least known) option when it's slimy, and the Minion is a decent all-around tire, but both are more predictable in the muck than the TRSr.

The other downside is their wear rate. While I'd stop short of half-jokingly calling them a qualifying tire, the photos you see here show them after just fifteen rides. Nope, these probably aren't your bike park tires, and that's not what they're intended for either. If that's what you need, look at the Plus compound.



Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesIf you mostly get out in dry weather, and you value traction over longevity, there's no reason why the new TRS Race shouldn't be on your list of possible tire options. However, you should look elsewhere if you love a bit of mud and want your tires to last all season. Mike Levy








126 Comments

  • + 115
 Reads review.

Thinks: "interesting"

Leaves Minions on both ends of all bikes.
  • + 8
 Or Aggressor if you live somewhere dry. Then monsoon season returns and yup, minions on both haha
  • + 2
 @andnyleswillriot: minion exo /tomahawk DD combo now. lighter, less rolling resistance and sheds mud pretty good.
  • + 10
 @andnyleswillriot: Yep. I am running the DHF front, Aggressor rear out here in Colorado as well and works great for me. If things get a bit more gnarly, I use a DHRII on the rear.. Solid!
  • + 4
 @bman33: +1 for DHF front Aggressor rear. Best combo I've found for here in Utah, which is 98% dry riding. I run 2.5's as well, love them.
  • + 2
 @bman33: exactly what I do. Just wish the monsoon would pick up in mtns, it all keeps missing us and slamming the front range.
  • + 3
 @andnyleswillriot: aggressor is death when it gets wet lol. Its been muddy here in appalachia until the past few weeks (raining again tho). I left my shorty/minion combo till early july from winter.
  • + 6
 Glad to see the consensus of DHF/Aggressor confirming my personal choice for CO riding.
  • + 90
 Reads comment

Thinks: "Man, this guy should really try our tires."

Shoots him a message to convince him.
  • + 2
 @ethirteen-components: Hey guys wanting to buy your products here in Mexico City, But the distributor is just a complete mess. Any other way to get your products here? (the tires are my goal)
  • + 9
 Tire reviews are super subjective. I find these to be fantastic in the wet, but again that's my opinion. I found Conti der Barons to be a horrible tire in the muck, but then different strokes for different folks. Other recent reviews of these have also said their wet traction is great, including NSMB who tested on the wet shore...
  • + 3
 @ethirteen-components: yo, where did we leave off on the whole mowing my lawn/getting the HOA off my back thing?
  • + 1
 @covekid: Yes, last year I was using the TSR Race on the front and the Plus one on the back, this was the excellent perfect combination of tires. On dirt, on mud, on the roots anywhere, these things got the freaking traction and control I need.

The distributor in Mexico City didn't have the tires on stock, I went for the Maxxis Minion DHF and DHF with all the "3C's" and "EXO's" I could find.

My god the tires are completely awful, I just got mad everytime these tires fails on the trail! >.
  • + 4
 Still waiting for new Michelin DH22, Goodyear, Pirelli.
  • - 1
 @checo621: Drive to San Diego?
  • + 7
 @endlessblockades: Seems like a good plan to drive non stop 48 hours to San Diego...
  • + 8
 Im telling you guys, give e13 a try. I know Maxxis makes great tires and I cannot blame you for running them, but the e13's are no slouch and in aggressive loose steep terrain they truly excel. They inspire confidence.
  • + 1
 HR2 3C Maxx Terra forever.
  • + 5
 @checo621: Yeah, the DHF is such a horrible tire most manufacturers copy it, riders with other tire sponsors ride it with blacked out logos, and it's been a best seller for numerous years. Total garbage.
  • + 1
 @checo621: Order them from Europe. Hope the tyres get through Mexican Customs.
  • + 3
 @endlessblockades: Goodyear Newton and Michelin Wild Enduro on the top of my list. Really enjoy the Michelin Rock'R2 tyre up front on my current bike.
  • + 2
 @ethirteen-components: so are you guys going to keep the "classic" tires around after hearing the public's response? Or are they here only until they sell out? I have no interest in the new tire and I don't think I'm alone.
  • + 2
 @bman33: even for me in pnw winter dhr2 summer aggressor love it.
  • + 1
 @andnyleswillriot: I don't find Minions clear all that well in the sandy clay mud here in Ontario. HR2 however, do clear well.
  • + 1
 @bman33: Tried that combo , switched to a 29"Shorty/HR2 both WT and like it way better .
  • + 2
 @andnyleswillriot: Minion DHF up front and Aggressor in the rear is my new go-to! Absolutely rips, and the new 2.5 WT tires provide unbelieve amounts of traction. Maxxis...take my money.
  • + 1
 @covekid: were they the older version from previous factory, there's a big difference
  • + 1
 @ethirteen-components: I have a set of these and they are awesome! But holy crap do they wear out fast! I have one race and 3 park days on mine and they are basically toast.
  • + 1
 @checo621: first you say it's an " excellent perfect combination" , then call them " completely awful " Which is it ??
  • + 1
 10/10
  • + 1
 I don't mind Minions except they roll slow in the WT MaxxGrip, and don't last. I wish the MaxxTerra gripped well in the wet as it rolls nicely. Exo not enough tire for the rear in the rocks unless you air it up to the point of bounciness, and I don't want to run a 2.1" tire on the rear I mean 2.3".
The DHF/DHR2 unfortunately clog in soft dirt/mud - I can only use them if I can count on it being dry (which is not that common here in the PNW), and there are better dry tire choices out there: Rock'R2, Wild Enduro Rear (maybe wet too? Dunno yet), Squale, Rock Razor.
I'd consider Shorty Exo MaxxGrip on the front if they made it (they don't), or a DHR2 in DD WT on the rear (again, not produced).
Looking forward to trying out the Wild Enduro Front Magi, and the Goodyear Newtons, and getting more time on the Wild Enduro Rear. Tires are always getting better.
  • + 2
 @ethirteen-components: I have the TRSr in front and TRS+ in rear on my Capra. It’s the best set of tires I have ever ridden. They a bit slower rolling than my last set, but WAY more confidence inspiring! Thanks.
  • + 5
 I rode minions for years. They were great tires. But it´s 2018 and there are definitely better options out there.
I found the new E-Thirteen is a great tire and outperforms a minion easily. A very similar tire from its performance is the Continental Der Kaiser Projekt 2.4 protection. It´s a little bit rounder what i found better in the corners. But same great brake and uphill traction and good rolling.

In many regions it´s completely unimportant in the summer months how a tire perform in the wet. In many regions it´s completly dried out in the summer. Not the hole world is a rainy island.
But yes, the Minion is better allrounder. But a Magic Mary is even a better one ...

But you can´t say something against the holy minions on pb. It´s a sacrilege.
  • + 2
 @ridingloose: I am open to things other than Minions. That said, Schwalbe left a bad impression with their nobs ripping off of $100 tires. Most say they have addressed this. However, I still know guys ripping Schwalbe sidewalls or losing nobs.
  • + 2
 @bman33: I rode Schwalbe in the last winters. I had never Problems. I ripped knobs on the older Muddy Marys, but not on the Magic Marys. But i don´t run them Long time on total dry hardpack. There better tires for this. But I also ripped kobs from minion DHR II.
  • + 1
 @ridingloose: I live in Colorado. Very dry most of the time so DHF/DHRII work great. Magic Mary's would be the ones I would try. I am native to the south eastern US. Much more rain, mud and roots there and the tire situation different for sure.
  • + 1
 @airsoftesneeto: I agree, been running them for almost two seasons now. Love them. Nothing feels as good as these do in corners.
  • + 1
 @checo621: Sorry man, my reply was stupid! I didn't realize that there were shipping challenges or that you were in DF.
  • + 1
 @erikkellison: maxxx terra is death in wet roots and wet rocks. I bought a maxxx terra shorty and it basically didnt help. may keep it as a rear tire for winter riding but im switching to a wtb vigilante high grip.
  • + 3
 @Dobba84: Try the Plus. I run the TRS plus in the rear and it's lasted all spring and summer so far. It's wearing very nicely and I ride a lot of rock slab and loose rock.
  • + 12
 I think tires and tire ratings by experts and normal people are subjective.
Day in and day out, I hear everything under the moon of the same tire one person thinks is the best and another thinks it’s horrible.
It’s just personal experience and trying different tires until you find something you like and stick with it.
I tried the DerBaron and found it horrible in the wet. Strange?
Schwalbe are shit.
DHF WT 2.5 front, Highroller II 2.4 with cushcore on the back. 20 psi on both. I’m 79kgs and ride in the Pacific North West...who knew?
  • + 5
 The psychic i saw knew. She said there'd be some guy who got along with dhf and highroller tires in the pacific northwest. Who knew?
  • + 1
 @Ron-C: my psychic knew, she told me about a guy who predicted the tyre choice of another guy in the Pacific Northwest, who knew?
  • + 7
 I had several sets of the original TRSr. It was by far the best tire I have ever used in terms of traction in both the wet and dry. I preferred it over all of the big hotter names that get thrown around and also many of the not so muched talked about ones. When the tire went dark last year I was excited (but worried) about the “new” design coming out. For months I tried to find the old version but none to be had. So I opted for the LG1 in the meantime. As stated here it too held a very square profile with the shorter center lugs. And also as stated here, that tire was down right horrible in the wet roots and rocks. It was worlds worse than the old version TRSr that I have used for several seasons since it launched. My buddy has the new version TRS and I can confirm the tread profile looks just like my LG1 did, which in all honesty brought back bad memories of my trips in the rain with the LG1 and left me disappointed that a once superstar TRS has been ruined.
  • + 3
 I have the new version as well, but wanted the old one...was worried that they ruined it. They now have a "classic" version on the website...looks like it may be the old one.
  • + 7
 @techspec360 Hey Brian, check your inbox for a message from us. We appreciated your devotion to the TRSr tires and we can help point you towards what you're looking for.
  • + 3
 @ethirteen-components: I too would appreciate this info please! The OG TRSr and TRS+ are the best tires I've ever used in all conditions. Have had a little anxiety over the inevitable changes to this latest version Wink
  • + 3
 @ethirteen-components: while you are on here...is the classic tire shown on the website the older more round profile? Or just a lighter casing? Thanks!
  • + 1
 @ethirteen-components: can you confirm for us that the "classic" test now listed on your site is the same profile/shape that we all came to LOVE about the OF tire? I'm disappointed with the updated version as well. :/
  • + 1
 I feel like I should chime in here. While it's hard to definitively blame a crash in bad conditions on a tire, I had one of the worst front end wash-outs I've ever had running a set of LG1r tires on my DH bike. I'm a very experienced rider who has religiously run Maxxis for years. I came hot into a rock drop at Whistler, which required that I come off slightly sideways and scrub down the 6' or so drop. The moment I hit the rock, my front tire was gone without even the slightest warning, and I fell of the 6' drop straight to my head, completely demolishing all of the clothing I was wearing including a brand new 100% Aircraft helmet. I was very luckily ok, but done riding for the weekend.

Conditions were, as I mentioned, bad - raining hard. That said, the complete and sudden disappearance of front tire grip really shook me up. I rode the tires again in super dry conditions and they did pretty well, especially in fast and loose terrain where the massive side knobs were really helpful. That said, they're wearing astonishingly quickly, to the point that after my 3rd day at Whistler for the season they're nearly due for replacement.

I never got to try the originals, but bummed that they changed what was by all accounts an exceptional tire into something that doesn't quite measure up.
  • + 7
 @zhendo: Literally any tire will slip hard if you hit a wet rock at an angle. I honestly don't see how this is relevant. My front tire disappeared and slammed me into the ground on a wet wooden bridge I hit at speed on Minions. I didn't blame the tire...
  • + 2
 @BaeckerX1: and this is why wet wood scares the shit out of me
  • + 0
 @BaeckerX1: As someone who lives and rides in the Pacific Northwest, I can tell you definitively that that's not true. A sign of a good, trustworthy rubber compound is that it grips on wet surfaces. If your comment is true, why do we even talk about wet weather performance of tires? Even while wet, well-worn granite in Whistler has pretty amazing traction. Maybe its confirmation bias, but reading comments (and the review) about wet weather performance makes me wonder how much of the incident may have been prevented with a more wet-friendly tire.

Wood is a whole different story - you don't want to ride wood in the wet unless it's wired up.
  • + 2
 @zhendo: Wet weather performance only extends so far, and believe me I've seen my share of wet rock in Colorado. You said it was pouring rain as you rode, which means there could have been standing water, which means hydroplaning could have been a factor, which will catch any tire over its grip threshold. Based on the factors you listed in your own post, I think it's a bit extreme to blame the tire is all I'm saying.
  • + 6
 Got these on my new bike (Capra 29 CF)

Rode it 2 days. First day I pinched the front, then switched for a tubeless setup. Second day I plit the rear tire by half an inch riding normal enduro trail. Now I'm back on maxxis, life is good again.

Other than the reliabily issue, I just didn't like how it feels. On flat turn, as soon as you incline your bike, you loose it... I lost the front end 2 times. I don't know what they intend to do with that "square shape" but you get on the side knob too quickly and then you lost it.

They will sleep on the garage until my bike will be for sale.
  • + 3
 Pretty much the exact same experience I had when my Capra arrived this year. With a Cushcore the rear felt rad (with the added sidewalk support) but didn’t survive a month
  • + 5
 Huh, I've found these tires to be significantly more durable than Maxxis EXO casings. I have many park days on these without issue, which just isn't possible with EXO, and I rode the 2ply version without issues at Andes Pacifico. I do wish they had a version for the rear that was slightly narrower and with a faster rolling tread.
  • + 6
 I also feel like the cornering bite on these is superior to any other tire I've tried. It definitely grabs harder than minions in the turns, especially in loose soil. I ride the harder compound version though, soft tires are stupid in the desert.
  • + 16
 @rouxky We're bummed to hear that. Check your inbox for a message from us, we would love to try and get you sorted. We strive to create reliable products that stay on your bike, not on garage floors. Thanks!
  • - 1
 @ethirteen-components:
I appreciate
To be fair with e13 I should add that my type of riding might not be the intended use of these tires. I am the type of rider who tries to convince himself that he is now an enduro rider, but who hit the chairlift / dh trail as much as the climbing / enduro ...
For this reason, I always use only DH casing tires on my bike, front and rear.
  • - 1
 We basically did the same. Started on the new Capra 27's, and scrapped them ASAP for the DHF/DHR combo.
I returned to them a few weeks later to confirm, and found that the E13 works better on the rear with a DHF on the front. Those super sidelugs seem to work better when it's steep, loamy, and dry...

On the front, they're just plain scary. As the review said: either 'on' or 'off'. Rear-wise I agree about the low-rolling-resistance and climbing performance. Grippy rubber is nice, but the rear was done after a solid week of riding here. (I'm in Aspen, CO).
  • + 1
 I have the some of these guys, too. I loooooove the grip, but I am constantly flatting in the rear.
  • + 7
 After switching from WTB to Maxxis, I'm still not sure why anyone would ride anything but the Minion. Maybe I'll have to try these E.13 tires out some time...
  • + 8
 Side lugs resemble a lot Michelin Wildrock'r 2 - which is a great thing. Don't know whete Kazimer saw MM?
  • + 4
 exactly the same you mean?
  • + 3
 @Clem-mk: i correct myself: exactly the same!
  • + 4
 @brigand same for the original version those side knobs are Rock'r² and the center knobs too with the hook thingy cut out. I did this cut on that tire to get better mud shedding capabilities and it made for a really good option as intermediate tire.
@mikekazimer are you boycotting Michelin tires to deny them their clear parenting of the TRS tire ?
  • + 1
 @Balgaroth: i have both and i can confirm they are identical. More suportive on Rocker tho (gum x, a bit harder but lasts forever). Mm has nothing in common with either one of these, have all 3 on my bikes at the moment.
  • + 4
 I love the version1 - so much grip in wet conditions. Grip was also great during wintertime and temp lower 10°C - much better than any Maxxis I rode - dual, 3C maxterra, 3C maxxgripp, ... Everything was perfect for me - okay they rolled a bit slow Smile
But now version2 - sorry guy's - I don't like them on wet roots, the casing is too stiff, ... Not my tire anymore...
Wishes for xmas - Please bring back the v1 and a rear tire that rolls like a dream. That would make me happy!

V1 - nearly perfect
V2 - just okay - sorry, not more
  • + 2
 Anything to get me off Maxxis.... I have these on order and I'm stoked to try them. Minions are amazing but having to replace tires every two months due to sidewall cuts, damaging the bead, etc. sucks. If Maxxis would step up their quality I'd never ride anything else...
  • + 2
 What casings are you running? I dislike EXO, but love DoubleDown and just this past weekend put a DH casing on the rear with a DD on front. It is glorious. I am of the opinion that I would rather add that extra weight for piece of mind. I was also racing enduro on them and almost exclusively in dusty and rocky conditions.
  • + 1
 @cgdibble: I run Exo front and DD rear. I went through 3 Minion DHRs in two months with all three cutting either the sidewall or damaging the bead so that I cant run them tubeless anymore. I Thought DD fixed my problems in the rear but 5 rides on my new DD tire and I cut the bead. Running 33(ish)psi too...
  • + 1
 @Pisgah85: i'm pretty sure they have/had an issue with the bead quality on the DD models. I spoke with some of their engineers and they suspected this was a problem. To much material/casing to squeeze in there while maintaining bead shape and profile? something like that... Anyways Ive had several warp on me and would not seat after - all while not riding. 2/3 worked fine until i tried mounting on a different wheel (one blew up in my face at about 50 psi- not fun). Maxxis, to their credit, \replaced everyone of them no problem. I think they have probably got it figured out now - Most recent DD is running strong, but its too heavy/overkill for most rides so i dont normally run it.
  • + 1
 @Rstetina: I figured something was up. Ran Maxxis for years with no problems but in the last year or so they tire quality has gone down big time. Not just on the Minions. My wife's Agressor was the same... split the bead.

I tried to warranty them but Maxxis said I would have to pay to ship them in and "maybe" they'll warranty them. Fell for that the first time with no warranty given (less than 50 miles on the tire) so not doing it again.

Lets hope these e13s hold up...
  • + 1
 @Pisgah85: wtf is that about? I slashed mine too on my one month old dhr2... The threads are still plenty good ffs... Never had that problem before when I was running dhf in the back
  • + 2
 A new faster E13 tire with most or all of the original tire's goodness? Sounds like the perfect PNW tire. Now, if only there were 26" E13 tires and I'd swap out the Minions. (or it's time for me to get a newer bike.. ?)
  • + 2
 Best front tire I've ever run. Rode them for 2 seasons and got just about all my friends on them. This season I got a Rallon that came with a 2.5 dhf out front. I liked the dhf well enough but definitely prefer squarer tires for rippin turns. When the dhf wore out I replaced it with another 2018 e-13. The e-13 is simply more sure footed and precise. Brakes WAY better and the casing has a noticeable dampening characteristic to it. Another stand out is off camber stuff, the e-13 just tracks on another level. Hey e-13, make a rear specific tire that rolls better and bit lighter please. Keep the insanely good side lugs though!
  • + 5
 Agreed. In the steep and loose they're my friend.. But I also find myself getting tired sooner getting to the top.
  • + 1
 I do really like the old version and fortunately have a few spares - grips on roots in the wet, clears mud well, and still has enough knob to dig into the soft stuff. The corner knobs are phenomenal, and the casing is well-damped and makes the bike more stable. I have no experience with the new one, but am sad to hear that it works less well in the wet, and is squarer and has less knob. Makes me not want it for a front (need all the wet grip and knobs), or a rear (too square). I guess when I use up my stash, I'll try something new. I do agree that the rear is not that great but for in the wet on the rear in the steep (though I prefer the der Baron Projekt as it rolls better, brakes as well, phenomenal grip on wet roots and clears mud, yet still lasts unlike really soft tires).
  • + 1
 So interesting to see the massively varied responses. I think many are forgetting that there is not one tire to rule them all - different riding styles, bikes, conditions (dirt, moisture), I am sure the new E13s are good for a large group of riders, but like any tire, they're not for everyone. But I love the polarity "worst tire ever" juxtaposed with "best tire ever."
  • + 5
 Pretty good tires, except maybe for the rolling resistance.
  • + 1
 These came on my Capra 29 this year and I had mixed feelings. At first I didn't know much about them and just ran them and didn't have any real complaints, but once my buddies started to comment on how square and bad they were, I started paying better attention. The tires lasted for about two months of regular riding before they were shot so durability is definitely lacking. I actually found the cornering to be pretty fun - once you are on the knobs they really felt like they were down to stay on them. Definitely a different feel than the DHF/HR2 combo I'm running now, but hard to tell if they were significantly better or worse. Colorado riding so only 1-2 rides in the wet and didn't notice anything bad. I'd try them again maybe....
  • + 1
 Had these on for about 3 months as a front tire on a 29er. Amazing in the dry but found them wondering laterally in the wet going down straights/over rocks/roots. Recently switched over to MM addix soft in and I am loving that tire. Super stable in dry and wet and corners just as good. Will see how it lasts.
  • + 1
 My experience with the 1st gen of this tire... Superb braking and cornering traction. Ridiculously slow rolling, and the casing was awkward. It was either rock hard and harsh, or wallowy feeling. Great puncture resistance. In the end, I took them off and slapped the old DHF/aggressor combo back on
  • + 1
 very good in soft/loamy ground, not the best feeling on hardpack. pinched a sidewall after an other hole on the Rolling surface deflated the tyre. rear one is dead for tubeless setup within a month...years on EXO with no problem...
  • + 9
 I had two exo casings warp under heavy cornering. Michelin Advanced Reinforced is the best casing so far for me.
  • + 7
 @brigand: Because you should use DH casing. Not exo.
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 lol eco lol lol
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 @clem-mk Hm, that doesn't sound good. Check your inbox for a message from us, we'd love to help get you sorted if you're up for it. Thanks!
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 @brigand: surely but not the same weight range at all. I don't want a 1kg+ tyre for my regular riding.
  • + 4
 Man, halfway through that review I was buying a set of these and then they didn't work in the wet. Dammit.
  • + 3
 I can tell you I love them in the wet, as do many of the guys I ride with. Levy didn't say they didn't work in the wet, just that he felt a few others worked better. I hate the Conti's he wrote about in the wet, so it sometimes comes down to personal preference...
  • + 3
 New and the original side by side, both mounted on FR570s.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/16091511
  • + 1
 I just mounted a new set a couple days ago, I knew there was something different about the profile versus the old ones! Hopefully I'll still like the new ones...
  • + 0
 Having ridden the old version for a couple years, now the new version, i dont mind the new version at least in super dry conditions

One Q when you all talk about tyre shape, Round Vs Square, at 23 PSI, have you looked at your Minion on the ground?? Its sure as shit just as square where its contacting the ground as the E13 is.The contact patch, the only thing that matters with grip, under load is still squashed flat to the ground. Is it possibly the transition from non-contact patch to contact patch that a rounded profile feels different? Or is it the feeling of when the tyre is weighting/unweighting over rocks, cornering, holes and such?
  • + 1
 Question: Which tire has such a grippy rubber compound for wet conditions and specialy for wet roots as E13version1?
Any suggestion for me?
And are those still "okay" to use with low temperatures?
Thanks a lot!!!
  • + 1
 Really like the first version of this tire in the front, but it already had a pretty boxy profile...if this is boxier I might have to find something else.
  • + 1
 Used the plus compound on the front as a summer tire briefly but way too square, worked quite well as rear in winter for braking purposes though (on narrow rim).
  • + 0
 e*thirteen's TRS are the best tires i have ever used. SOOOO MUUUUCH GRIIIP ! Only downside was that they lasted only one season, but i ride a lot.
  • + 1
 Bontrager xr4 team issue 2.6 front 2.6 rear best combo I’ve ever tried out.
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 Hey, hello Specialized Butcher
  • + 1
 Great review; If you race somewhere dry and dusty, 5-6 seconds over a 5 min course is worth noting for sure
  • + 1
 Casing is too weak and the profile is way to square on 30mm rims
  • + 0
 I did read that on a review montsh ago, previous version had better shape, rounder, predictability etc. Strange thing to get an updated "worst" version.... somebody got or is to be fired... these tires are made by michelin ?? Also read this sonewhere I believe
  • + 1
 @Lagr1980: I think the originals were made by Michelin, these are a new manufacturer, not sure who
  • + 6
 They were made by Maxxis, now VeeRubber makes them.
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 If only it came in 26”
  • + 1
 Sounds like a so-so tire. Good at one thing but not the other.
  • + 2
 26" tires matter.
  • + 2
 Mary Addix is ze bestest
  • + 1
 too square!! but great traction!!
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 I stopped buying anything ethirteen. I found their customer service not interested in answering your questions. I have also used several of their products and found major design flaws which caused malfunctions.
  • + 1
 Yeezus, 15 rides, that's what my Minnion DHF looks like after last year!
  • + 1
 Hmm they look like solid riding!
  • - 2
 Kenda K-Rad, rolls like a slick, has traction when the going gets tough. I had Maxxis Hookworms, but they have zero offroad traction. For my purposes the K-Rad is absolutely PERFECTO!
  • + 1
 Are you one of the wheelie boys?
  • + 1
 Maxxis Minnions DHFs, 26in bike...still fun!
  • + 0
 Highroller, is that you?
  • + 2
 Jody Highroller?!
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