Someone once said something smart about how the devil is in the details, and today it's those details that are in the Pinkbike podcast. Episode 73 is all about the finer points of bike setup, the details that matter to each of us and why, the details that matter to other people that we don’t understand, and some details that we’d like to see more of in the future. There are the obvious ones that should matter - tire pressure, suspension sag, and making sure your stem is straight - but what about Henry's absolute need for cable housing to be parallel and trimmed to the perfect length? And Brian's thing about needing his dropper post collar to sit flush with the top of the seat tube? We also argue that frame material, bottom bracket type, fork offset, and a few other things are all overblown ingredients in the bigger picture.
Are we out to lunch when it comes to details, or do you agree with our callouts? Let us know in the comments which details matter to you and which ones you don't pay attention to.
THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 73 - THE DETAILS THAT MATTER (AND SOME THAT SHOULDN'T) July 29th, 2021
Did anyone hear the part where Brian told us he ties his car key to one of his riding shoes?
See that key-ring poking out? Horrifying.
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I've seen other people ride with keys tucked into their shoes, but I've seen it most often done by runners.
Question for everyone, why don't more bike companies allow an a-la-carte build? Like maybe you want that fancier fork with all the knobs, but know that your drive train isn't long for this world, so you get the fox 36 with a deore or slx drivetrain, knowing that you can upgrade once you wear out or destroy the current drivetrain?
We’ve all got a very short or very tall friend that buys end of season bikes front wheel big brands for half price right?
If you’ve got 4-5 sizes, a couple of colours, and in the case of drivetrain and brakes, multiple models of bikes, you maximise your chance of having what the customer wants.
Downside is you have to build bikes bespoke in country of sale, which is going to cost more than boxing them up in Taiwan.
It’s a British brand and people over there seem to love there bikes. I’ve never seen there bikes on pinkbike, so just wanted to spread the word!
As more and more companies offer little to no discount for packaging components, building your own bike just looks better and better.
There are also a number of smaller manufacturers who offer a lot more customization vs the big brands.
(GG, Revel, Ibis, to name just a few)
Best is the Ford (and now some other companies) keypads. Been locking my keys in truck every time for years and just using the keypad to unlock
Manitou is definitely up there. Go to mtbr and check the suspension forum. If SR Suntour has the same weirdly rabid fan I can't find it on the internet.
While we're on the topic, does anyone know how BBD gets measured on mixed wheel bikes? From the lower axle or the higher axle? Or by drawing a line between the two and then a vertical line down to the BB from there?
The drawn line you mentioned is also a good idea but it requires 2 new variables to do the math, wheelbase and chainstay lengths.
Not saying this to hate on press-fit; my Scott has a BB92 and I have managed to keep it quiet :-)
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@brianpark The key on laces trick is what runners have been doing forever so don't let the other boys get you down! It's simple and effective, and when Kazimer's van goes missing you'll be the one laughing.
But I'd love to hear you tackle this question- without discounts, if you had to buy or build up a personal bike right now, what do you think that would look like? (lets just pretend the frame & parts you want are in stock)
And for the folks who regularly ride multiple bikes- would you rather have two bikes that cost $4k each, or one that you could spend $8k on?
Large vs. XL is often cutoff around 5'10" / 5'11" which is the average Western Male's height...do I go longer or shorter in these cases?
My hydration pack has a clip in a zippered pocket that is within a larger zippered pocket. So my key is nice and safe. But I also accept the fact that my hydration pack, while convenient, is overkill for the majority of my rides. I should try a hip pack or runner's belt. I've got both - just need to try them out.
In regards to the Meta, weight’s not a dealbreaker for me, but I also wouldn’t mind at all if it was a couple pounds lighter.
@mikekazimer 's turn.
For suspension, does EXT count as an underdog? Because I’d happily run their stuff… The Manitou Mezzer Expert fork I reviewed earlier this year worked well.
For tires, Specialized’s new rubber is worth a look, and Michelin has some good options too. Probably not exactly underdogs, but not as common as Maxxis or Schwalbe.
I haven’t found anything yet that would convince me to stray from Shimano or SRAM drivetrains - they’ve raised the bar pretty high.
Burgtec’s Wide Ride Carbon bars have been keeping my hand and forearms happy lately, and I like their composite flat pedals too.
underdog suspension: Avalanche Downhill Racing. Very good shock's and varius upgrades for all kinds of shock's and forks.
What is the lowest amount of gears you would you be happy with, in whatever range you like... E.g. would you settle for a 5spd 11-51t ? (Ignore the engineering issues associated with such a system)
Don’t worry dude. The key in laces option is a great concept that has been used by many before biking.
Military elements around the world usually secrete one of the two “dog tags” in the leg boot within the lace area. This was because if a solider “bought the farm” and was unfortunate enough to say, loose their head in the final moments of life; they could at least identify who they were post incident.
Like this, when you have a @mikelevy, life ending crash; they can at least identify who owned that piece of crap “dadwagon”, that has been blocking the Carpark entrance for the last week or so.
It’s cable management for me - not just internal routing, but using heat-shrink or electrical tape to bundle cables together at the cockpit. Or the little inner tube flap I’ve made to stop rocks getting stuck between the front and rear triangles on my Evil.
"Hey @brianpark your shoelace is undone!"
Some buddies and I rode past a mates car at the trail head carpark one day. Knowing where he hides his car keys we decided to move his car to the other side of the carpark (still within sight...we're not that mean), then carefully put the keys back exactly as he'd hidden them. He was a little confused when he returned, wondered if he'd ridden too hard and never suspected us.
Question for the gang: what are the best inexpensive option for riding shorts, and why are they board shorts from the end-of-summer clearance rack?
I once needed a place for my kid's dirty diaper and put it in one of the box compartments of the truck bed and a lightbulb went off when I found it a couple weeks later. Nobody would dare snoop for my keys if I stashed them behind a poopy diaper!
So maybe the "poopy diaper key stasher" could be a April fools product placement next year!
1. Shock and Denial: Bike equivalent: folks are shocked by all the mullet bikes and are in denial if they think they will be faster on them just because the best riders in the world are using them,
2. Pain and grief: Old guys like me trying to do Abi's yoga routines and what I get a work for whatching friday fails at the 1pm sales meeting since you stopped getting the FFs out in the early morning.
3. Anger and bargaining: TDB for next weeks podcast.
For $10 a month you can see where i keep my car keys while riding.
What drives me nuts when someone's bike is creaking and squeaking. I just can't tolerate squeaky creaky bikes, not even passing them. Same goes for drivetrains (the kind of you see/hear mostly on old, neglected Town bikes), i feel physical pain hearing metal on metal without lubricant...
The irony is that my new bike has developed a horrible creaking noise I'm struggling to get rid off :-/
I'm pretty sure it's caused by the seatpost / saddle tube interface, carbon assembly paste has helped for one ride, right know I'm trying MoS grease...
I feel like we should do an entire podcast on MTB stereotypes!
I'm doing at 12 hour race in September. Can you give me tips?
Thanks a bunch
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