The Pinkbike Podcast: Episode 80 - The Best Vehicles for Mountain Bikers

Sep 7, 2021 at 12:17
by Mike Levy  
Pinkbike Podcast
Art by Taj Mihelich


Wait, isn't this a mountain bike website? Thing is, there are many riders out there who end up with a specific truck, van, or car because it suits their riding lifestyle. And who among us hasn't been bounced around the back of a ratty shuttle truck, slept in our wagon halfway to a race, or had aspirations of owning a drool-worthy van conversion? Point is, while we all love riding bikes, sometimes our vehicles go hand-in-glove with our sport.

Today's podcast sees Alicia Leggett, Mike Kazimer, James Smurthwaite, and I talk about the vehicles that make sense for mountain bikers, vehicles that don't make any sense but that we want anyway, trucks versus vans, tips for good van living, and what kind of bike racks make the most sense.


Alicia and Kazimer both own AWD Astro vans (AKA the Safari) and put them to good use. Alicia (left) lived in hers for a couple of years, while Kazimer (right) drives his at well under the posted speed limit. And probably in the passing lane.

Trailforks' Trevor May is more of a truck guy, and something tells me he likes the color red. I owned my Mitsubishi L300 Delica for eleven years and drove it (very slowly) south to Utah every winter.


What vehicles work best for us? Much like mountain bikes, it depends on what you need to get done. Trucks are the obvious choice for many, but some (including me) would argue that vans make even more sense... Especially if it has six wheels and is a Pinzgauer. Then again, the sight of a motorbike with a mountain bike strapped to it brings a smile to everyone's face, so maybe that's the answer? As for me, I'll happily sell what's left of my soul for a classy Mercedes Benz 300 TD wagon that I'd drive the long way to the trailhead with some oldies turned 11.

What's your dream vehicle for mountain bikers? Did you buy your current vehicle because it works well for riding? Next week is (probably) our big Q&A episode, so put those questions down below and we might even answer them in next week's show.





THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 80 - THE BEST VEHICLES FOR MOUNTAIN BIKERS
Sep 10th, 2021

Who thinks we need a Pinkbike Pinzgauer? I'll even let them park it at my house...


Featuring a rotating cast of the editorial team and other guests, the Pinkbike podcast is a weekly update on all the latest stories from around the world of mountain biking, as well as some frank discussion about tech, racing, and everything in between.




Previous Pinkbike Podcasts
Episode 1 - Why Are Bikes So Expensive?
Episode 2 - Where the Hell is the Grim Donut?
Episode 3 - Pond Beaver Tech
Episode 4 - Why is Every Bike a Trail Bike?
Episode 5 - Can You Trust Bike Reviews?
Episode 6 - Over Biked Or Under Biked?
Episode 7 - Wild Project Bikes
Episode 8 - Do We Need an Even Larger Wheel Size?
Episode 9 - Why Are We Doing a Cross-Country Field Test?
Episode 10 - Getting Nerdy About Bike Setup
Episode 11 - Are We Going Racing This Year?
Episode 12 - What's the Future of Bike Shops?
Episode 13 - Are Bikes Too Regular Now?
Episode 14 - What Bikes Would Pinkbike Editors Buy?
Episode 15 - What's Holding Mountain Biking Back?
Episode 16 - Who's Your Mountain Biking Hero?
Episode 17 - XC Field Test Insider
Episode 18 - Electronics on your Mountain Bike: Good or Bad?
Episode 19 - The Hardtail Episode
Episode 20 - MTB Conspiracy Theories
Episode 21 - Stuff We Were Wrong About
Episode 22 - Does Your Riding Style Match Your Personality?
Episode 23 - Grim Donut 2 is Live!
Episode 24 - Why Even Buy a DH Bike?
Episode 25 - Fall Field Test Preview
Episode 26 - The Three Most Important Mountain Bikes
Episode 27 - The World Champs Special
Episode 28 - All About Women's Bikes
Episode 29 - Freeride or Die
Episode 30 - Would You Rather?
Episode 31 - Wet Weather Riding Tips & Tricks
Episode 32 - What Needs to Change in the Bike Industry?
Episode 33 - Behind the Scenes at Pinkbike Academy
Episode 34 - Grilling Levy About Field Test Trail Bikes (and His Bonspiel)
Episode 35 - Story Time - Stranger Than Fiction
Episode 36 - Grilling Kazimer about Field Test Enduro Bikes
Episode 37 - The 2020 Privateer Season with Ben Cathro
Episode 38 - Editors Defend Their 2020 Best-Of Picks
Episode 39 - Predicting the Future of Mountain Biking
Episode 40 - The Pinkbike Awards!
Episode 41 - Racing Rumours and Team Changes
Episode 42 - Mountain Biking's Guilty Pleasures
Episode 43 - Dangerholm's Wildest Custom Mountain Bikes
Episode 44 - Mountain Bike Suspension Decoded
Episode 45 - What Makes a Good Riding Buddy
Episode 46 - The RockShox Zeb vs Fox 38 Deep Dive
Episode 47 - High Pivot Bikes: The Good, The Bad, and The Why?
Episode 48 - Rides That Went Horribly Wrong... & Why That Made Them So Good
Episode 49 - What's the Best DH Bike?
Episode 50 - Are Bikes Actually Getting Less Expensive? (Value Bike Field Test Preview)
Episode 51 - Should MTB Media Post Spy Shots?
Episode 52 - Our Most Embarrassing MTB Moments
Episode 53 - Should Climbers Still Have the Right of Way?
Episode 54 - Best and Worst MTB Product Marketing
Episode 55 - Big Dumb Rides & Staying Motivated
Episode 56 - What Were the Most Important Inventions in Mountain Biking?
Episode 57 - What Were the Best (and Worst) Trends in Mountain Biking?
Episode 58 - Debunking Mountain Biking's Biggest Myths
Episode 59 - Value Bike Field Trip Surprises & Spoilers
Episode 60 - What Kind of Mountain Biker Do You Want to Be?
Episode 61 - Athlete Pay, Lycra, Equality and More from the State of the Sport Survey
Episode 62 - Editor Preferences and Why They Matter
Episode 63 - Our Best (And Worst) Bike Buying Advice
Episode 64 - Who's On Your MTB Mount Rushmore?
Episode 65 - The Hardtail Episode
Episode 66 - The Best and Worst of Repairing Bikes
Episode 67 - The Story of Mountain Biking's Most Interesting Man: Richard Cunningham
Episode 68 - Who Are Mountain Biking's Unsung Heroes?
Episode 69 - The Good, Bad, and Strange Bikes We've Owned - Part 1
Episode 70 - The Good, Bad, and Strange Bikes We've Owned - Part 2
Episode 71 - The Story of Mountain Biking's Most Interesting Man: Richard Cunningham - A Pinkbike Podcast Special, Part 2
Episode 72 - Hey Outers!
Episode 73 - The Details That Matter... and Some That Shouldn't
Episode 74 - The Best Trails We've Ridden and What Makes Them So Special
Episode 75 - Things MTB Brands Waste Money On
Episode 76 - MTB Originals and Copycats
Episode 77 - Interview with Outside CEO, Robin Thurston
Episode 78 - Modern Geometry Explained
Episode 79 - What's the Future of eMTBs?


392 Comments

  • 37 0
 Bring back the honda element!
  • 5 0
 live the microcamper life in a honda hotelment!
  • 5 1
 Mine never went anywhere! 260k miles and still going
  • 10 0
 Have you seen the Element with aftermarket pop-tops? Neato.
  • 3 0
 Love my element. Fits two bikes with just taking off front wheel. Always under cover. Always locked away safe. Plastic/rubber everything so I don’t even think about mud. And it’s 4wd! I will be looking for another element if this one dies.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: Hiro's Hotrods makes swivel seats for them too!
  • 2 0
 The problem is mine never got more than 23 mpg on the highway. If the interior was one foot longer, you could fit bikes in so much easier...
  • 2 0
 Yes!!! I recently bought a passport and while it's a great, and very comfortable, car what I really wanted was an updated element.
  • 2 0
 Awesome! 540,000 km and mine is still running smooth. Fits all my gear and bikes (on top, out back) and even inside if necessary.
  • 3 0
 @TerrapinBen: I lived in my element for a year, it was great!
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: still tempted by an Ursa Minor - my element is _the_ MT BIKE element. PS also a mini nerd
  • 2 0
 @TerrapinBen: I was not aware *adds to the list
  • 1 0
 I’ve just been amazed to find that the first ever ‘The Straight Pipes’ review was of the Honda Element! No visor test in those days though.

Quite gutted we can’t get the element in the UK.
  • 2 0
 @TerrapinBen: I need swivel seats for the front row of my Previa!
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: How did it never go anywhere if it has 260K miles on the clock?
  • 1 0
 @DarrellW: got a comedian over here
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy

The BEST portable shower, Karcher OC3 mini pressure washer.
Costs little, 4L, rechargeable battery and can buy car charge kit. Boil up some hot water and you’ve got a portable shower, AND you can wash your bike with it too.

Highly recommend to anyone camping
  • 28 4
 Replaced my much loved ‘04 Impreza wagon with a 2014 Toyota Sienna this past spring. Hard to believe, bit I get the same gas mileage with way more power, more room, and can now store my bike inside the the vehicle. I have way less worries when I make a stop somewhere, and have legendary Toyota reliability. My friend says, #siennaisthenewtacoma.
  • 2 0
 haha, yeah I've been considering one. They're pricey around here though, especially for AWD. My buddy sold me on the idea when we visited them on Oahu a couple years ago and could fit the two of us, 4 kids, and 3 surfboards INSIDE the van.
  • 6 0
 I only hear good things about the Sienna. Sleeper MTB vehicle for sure.
  • 2 5
 Whoa - who can? Mini Van Man Can! The other tradeoff (now) is that new Suby's (esp Crosstrek which is just a taller Impreza) have far superior AWD tech than Toyota, hands down, even tho the mpg actually looks just higher on yr mini-van. But - you def have more room in the Sienna and maybe 100 hp higher (which is amazing to still get approx 36mpg (if that's true) hwy & city. Dunno...maybe worth a look & test drive. Having storage space over Suby is obvious though, even the Forester (mom-wagon) and Outback aren't too room. Major down on the Crosstrek is - just small, not a lotta storage. That mini-van look is hard to get over (for me)... the stigma is high. Clearance any good on that thing?
  • 5 0
 @chacou: "COVID tax", right? I've been watching them as well and it seems they really hold their value like an old Hilux or 4Runner. Especially given that they have AWD available (and a smattering of available lift kits) while the Odyssey does not.
I'm rallying a RWD Previa and while the new awd/hybrid Sienna is a bit greener at the tailpipe, the green it would deduct from my checking account keeps me in my paid-for eggvan. I too keep my bike in the van. Though I have a 1Up, there are a lot of times I'm doing errands or uh maybe leaving work early and it's ideal to keep the bike safe.
  • 1 0
 Hopped on carmax to look at them because I like the idea but holy shit, those mini vans cost as much or more than my tundra. Must be reeeeal nice.
  • 3 0
 Meanwhile in the Impreza wagon: i.imgur.com/ikjmhCa.png
  • 2 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: The clearance and approach angles have really changed on the Sienna's over time(for the worse). We are on our second AWD model. They are as reliable s you hear.

As a former outback x 2 owner. The outback is much better off road(not even in the same class) but for the snow i have not noticed that much difference.
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: Word. Well, I just paid off my Crosstrek & w/ a top rack, I can pretty easily get 3 of us in for a roadtrip & all camping gear, beer & bikes so I'm good for now but its still cool seeing what else is out there...even if its a mini-V
  • 4 0
 I bought a 2013 Sienna in the last year. Soooooo much room. Chews up highway miles. Kid is happy. Pulls the boat. AWD. Easily sleep in the back. I'm minivan for life.
  • 2 0
 @Adamrideshisbike: MiniVanManCan - for life! Hear ya. Ultimately in the end its all just wheels to get us where we want our other wheels to go, and obviously some are better'n others. Can't believe I actually looked the Sienna up online but the soccer mom pics off the bat kinda moved me back a notch...
  • 1 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: The reason the gas mileage is same between the Sienna and the Impreza is that the Impreza was an older 2004 which were notorious for not so great mpg for a compact car, and the 2014 Sienna is front wheel drive. Ground clearance is what I would call, "good enough" as most trailheads I go to have decent enough roads that it's not a concern. I'm not a backcountry driver either, so it works perfect for me.
  • 28 3
 The comments do not disappoint. "What is the best car for mountain biking? Well, it is the one I drive! Let me tell you why."
  • 29 0
 Wrong. The best car for mountain biking is, of course, someone elses.
  • 7 0
 @hamncheez: way more fuel efficient too!!
  • 22 1
 @hamncheez: Patrick McManus taught us this:

“There is nothing better than to be headed into the mountains on a clean fresh day with the sun rising through the trees and good company and good talk and the sense of ease that comes from the knowledge that you are in somebody else's car and it is not your transmission that is going to get torn out on a big rock.”
― Patrick Mcmanus, They Shoot Canoes, Don't They?
  • 17 0
 Pick a car and be a dick about it
  • 6 0
 @Svinyard: Pat was/still is a national treasure.
  • 2 0
 @Svinyard: SHHHH!!! thats where I stole the joke from !
  • 4 0
 The fact that the Pontiac aztek wasn't mentioned in this podcast hurt my soul
  • 16 0
 In europe: Kangoo/Berlingo, ideally familly edition rather than panel van: can put 2 bikes inside safe from thieves without any disassembly, or 3 with the front wheels off + 3 riders. One person can sleep comfortably inside. Fits in european sized car parks, notably underground ones that have height restrictions and impossible turning radii.

Also why are 3/4 of the pictures of massive trucks/van with bike racks, then whole point of getting a big vehicle is to keep your bike safely inside...
  • 3 0
 True, if you're going the bike rack way just choose any car you like without considering the bikes.
  • 6 0
 Transit Connect for the win - seats three riders and fits three bikes. Deadlocks are a must though!
  • 1 0
 @ODubhslaine: hard to find a Connect with a back seat.
  • 3 0
 @fattybourgeois: theres 3 seats up front with the Trend model. We’re not talking about acres of lateral legroom for the two passengers, but it’ll fit two adult males.

Plus I’m the one driving so cramped legs aren’t a concern of mine Wink
  • 4 0
 I drive a 20 y.o., 400.000+ km, beaten like shit Fiat Multipla. I took one of the back seats off, so I can carry my bike, wife and kids, all in 3.99 metres. Alas they discontinued it.
  • 3 0
 You've got the caddy life and maxi life too.
  • 15 1
 Just downloaded but I hope Unimog is on the list. Mainly because it will let me justify buying one!
  • 13 0
 U+1. Where U is the number of Unimogs you already have.
  • 2 0
 Yep, that definitely got a mention. Probably not the best for a daily driver, but they are super cool.
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: Funny, there is a guy in Bellingham who has two 'Mogs. One of them pulls a trailer with a jetski on it. I think he's more serious about the apocalypse than anyone else I know.
  • 11 0
 Podcast notion: Ben Cathro is no doubt insanely busy, but if possible a "How to Bike, First Half Reflections" with Ben would be outstanding. That series has been phenomenal, I imagine it is about halfway through, and it would be great to hear from Ben about the first 6 episodes, hear from Levy, etc. al about what has been helpful/surprising/best reminders for you all, etc.
  • 7 0
 Great idea. We've had Ben on in the past and he was great.
  • 11 2
 Pacifica Hybrid should be way up on that list. Personally I've been super happy with our Model 3 and a 1up rack. We also have a '12 4Runner and it's great with a 4 bike Thule rack on it but the Tesla gets the nod every time if it's two people or less. I just have this idea that we as mountain bikers should embrace lower carbon cost transportation because, well our sport takes place in this great place called nature.
  • 4 1
 Wish I could upvote this more. So many trucks at the trailhead, but shouldn’t we be more concerned about the effect that our transportation has on the nature we love to play in?
  • 3 2
 Love the concept of electric but when you dig in is it really better?

To mine 1 ton of lithium it takes 500,000 gallons of water

For 1 tesla battery which is about 1000 pounds, 50,000 yards of earth have to be moved by equipment that uses fossil fuels and it uses 1 million gallons of water

Best way to lower the carbon foot print is to ride your bike to the trails

Also environmental damage is never talked about

Ok, rant over. 2016 outback for the win!! Also just get out and ride!
  • 1 0
 @fastlaneflyer: I genuinely don't know, but what's the environmental impact of a gas car?
  • 5 1
 @fastlaneflyer: It's been fairly well debunked that a EV is worse for the environment than a normal gas or diesel vehicle. There is an increased production cost in terms of resources but it's way less overall when taking on the longer term and EV's should last longer with less maintenance as well. That includes when charging from the grid, it's way better when a home has solar which is becoming more and more common.
  • 2 1
 @heatproofgenie: yes but let’s remember what the grid is powered by! Fossil fuelled power stations still vastly outnumber reusable and nuc’ power plants.
  • 2 0
 @heatproofgenie: I think the bigger issue is used EVs are VERY minimal compared to used gas cars. I think of a Tesla the same as an iphone. Theres noone going out to buy an iphone8 when the 12 exists. The newest one is always the one to have. Theyre nothing more than an appliance that gets disposed of when youre done with it
  • 11 2
 Vans for the win. It’s too easy to spot something nice in/on the back for a truck and the security sucks.
If it’s hidden in the back of a panel van (with now biking stickers plastered all over the outside) then people don’t think know it’s full of £10/20/30k of bikes in the first place.

They’re also much more comfortable to sleep in than a car or a truck.
  • 10 2
 Not sure that holds up here in the US where vans are less common - every van I see screams 'we're rich and there is lots of expensive shit in here'
  • 4 0
 My bike lives inside my Ford Transit van. I never worry about it in there.
  • 4 0
 Get stickers like baby on board or Star Wars family stickers and limo tint, it has zero bikes inside
  • 9 0
 @MikeyMT: that’s because rich people LOVE to deck their vans out with poseur overlander shit like 32” tires, Maxxtrax(unused), 2 light bars, a bumper mounted rotopax gas can, and a mountains please sticker. Keep it looking like stock and you blend right in.
  • 8 0
 @MegaStoke: in UK and Europe the white van is basically invisible, park it anywhere, there’s literally millions of Transit vans on the roads.

It’s why terrorists love them, no one pays them a bit of notice.
  • 6 0
 @CustardCountry: Bit off topic, but fair point...
  • 15 0
 @Jaib06: don’t even get me started on how much easier it is to move bodies around
  • 1 0
 @CustardCountry: Alive. Or not...
  • 5 0
 @Jaib06: now that would be telling
  • 1 0
 @CustardCountry: once I would have agreed. Now you need a T5. Pimped with 83,247” alloys and a set of Hawaiian flowers on the dash. Perhaps a ‘vanimal’ sticker as well. Preferably the small engine one or ex AA. They are so common now no one notices them. Certainly in my part of the world.
  • 1 0
 @CustardCountry: hahaha this is so true, a few years ago when Oktoberfest was still a thing and covid wasn't, I drove the white rental van back from Oktoberfest to the hotel (1 beer only, I swear! Don't drink and drive!). There was a police road block on one of the larger streets and they pulled every single car over for an alcohol test but not ours.
  • 2 0
 @MegaStoke: Yeah, man - I love Boise! What part of town do you live in? What color Transit van did you end up getting - I can't decide what color I want.........
  • 3 0
 @DizzyNinja: Put: "Caution. Lives snakes in transit." stickers on my Ranger. And then throw in two of those gutter tubes that the snake catchers use in the back with the bike, one with the cap off.
  • 1 0
 Transit 15 passenger van easily fits six riders and bikes all inside, or 8 and 8 with a rack. A simple modular bed platform makes it a great stealth camper, too. Even with no lift the stock AWD goes just about anywhere if you’re willing to go slow enough. Just did a 6000+ mile road trip (lots of desert) with zero issues. 85% of the #vanlife stuff is superfluous.
  • 1 0
 @ilovedust: haha. So true. The problem with fancy alloy wheels is they’re just not as strong as good old steel wheels, add low profile tyres on big pimping rims and you’re not gonna survive all those bumpy, potholed mountain roads (or most uk roads).
  • 9 0
 QUESTIONS! about ebikes!) : Here are a few questions that I feel have never really been discussed in ebikes debates/points of views. (Not even in the last podcast about ebikes.)

-What will happen when the e-bikes motors and batteries will be out of warranty and will need replacing in a few years? Who will want to pay for a 2000$ motor on a 5-6 year old ebike? Will there still be compatible new parts from manufacturers? What will happen with those bikes?

-How will "regular" mtb users (the "original" sport vs e-mtb) feel/react when 70-80% of mountain bikers will use an e-bike in a few years? Always stopping to get out of the way for people to pass them on ebikes? (Even slow mtber will probably be faster uphill and on flats than an average mtber).

-What will happen when de-restricted and just more powerful or throttle-controlled ebikes (made by mtb companies or others) enter in the trails? Who will "police" the trails? emotorcycles are already invading cyclepaths, I feel like it's soon going to happen in mtb trails. I've seen a de-restriction software ad on Pinkbike recently, so I guess this is a sign of thibgs to come.

-Will we pay more for day passes because the increase of trail use (ex: runs per trail) caused by ebikes (which will bring added maintenance costs)? Regular bikes users will then pay more to have worst trail conditions and less fun (having to stop to get passed by ebikers all the time).

-Does anyone reflect to the state of mountain biking and the ebikes' impact on the mountain biking "experience" and trail use in 10-15-20 years?

Thanks!
  • 3 0
 All added to the list for the Q&A episode!
  • 2 0
 Are bike companies doing anything to help promote responsible disposable of the batteries after they are used up?
  • 3 0
 This. I've got concerns as I'm sure a lot of analogue-MTBers have too.
  • 1 0
 @freehubfreemind: in short yes. Companies are now aligning themselves with recycling industries to at least process old defunked batteries. I know Pb did an article on Specialized doing it and I think trek and giant are doing it as well?
  • 7 1
 Nissan Xterra for the win. No carpet in the trunk so no issues throwing muddy gear in. Has a tie down system too for larger gear. Back seats fold flat and level so you can sleep in it if you needed to. It’s probably the most utilitarian SUV out there.
While I don’t carry a full size Persian rug, I do carry a small kitchen or bathroom mat at all times. Gives you somewhere soft stand when changing.
And my Thule T1 has been on my vehicle for 4 years now. No garage care. Outside gear round. And we have salt on the roads in the winter. Only thing that broke was one of the plastic pieces. Otherwise it’s been bullet proof.
  • 5 0
 A Nissan + a Thule rack = complete pile of rust within 5 years where I live. The Xterra is/was a sweet truck if they could have fixed that issue.
  • 1 0
 I love my 4Runner for all the same reasons. I wish Nissan still made the Xterra, I always thought they were rad. Nissan pulled the plug on it just before the body-on-frame off road SUV segment took off again too.
  • 2 0
 Second Gen Nissan Xterra's are tanks and probably one of the best vehicles Nissan ever made.
  • 1 0
 My 09 is still running strong! Even with me doing barely any maintenance. 250K and rolling
  • 1 0
 @WalrusRider: 1st gen weren't bad, mostly just under powered unless you got the super charger
  • 2 0
 Had an 05 and now a 12… really no stressing anything with an Xterra. got aftermarket leather seats and a bunch of weather tech stuff… cannot be killed by me, my children, dogs or bikes.
  • 7 1
 Question for the pod/Henry: I really like hearing about the crazy (as in, endurance/fitness/sadism) stuff people get up to on bikes. Henry in particular is an absolute animal - multiple Everests, a FKM, probably other stuff too. So - what is the thing you've done that stands out as being the hardest, physically and mentally? The thing that took the most training, the most mental discipline etc? What did it look like to prepare and actually do it?

Would really love to listen to an in depth discussion on this, perhaps a full pod if you think others might be interested in it too. I've just signed up for an ironman and listening to fellow crazy people describe what they've put themselves through is getting me through my dawn training sessions!
  • 3 0
 Excellent idea. Added to the list.
  • 1 0
 For the uneducated, whats an FKM?
  • 2 0
 @Jaib06: it was a typo, my bad! I meant fkt (fastest known time). I couldn't see how to edit the post so I posted a correction but that's now lost in the depths of the comments somewhere below. Basically, top notch PB comment skills from me today!
  • 1 0
 @everythingscomingupmilhouse: oh right! What trail?
  • 2 0
 @Jaib06: across the south island of New Zealand. I think he's done a million feet of climbing in a year as well!
  • 6 0
 Rack-wise I gotta say that for rear racks, 1up is the bomb for me. I've blown through Kuat, Thule, and Rocky Mounts and NONE will carry an XL frame (at at least as of 2019 when I scored the 1up) so when I saw 1up will fit them, I scored one. Also, even the best Kuat, Thule, R-Mounts are kinda rickety and have way more sway, moving parks & wacky functions that are beyond annoying vs 1up.

The 1up is just: drive up, pop one slider, bike is off & yr riding. They also offer wheel-locks for the sliders that makes theft difficult. Anyway - we all like what we like but I can you my buds w/ the too-small Kuat & Thule racks are cursing theirs every time they load the XL bike on 'em...its hilarious to watch them try to load them too....just a lesson in frustration. Obviously in-vehicle (van) storage is surpeme but for exterior, my opinion is that 1up is unequaled.
  • 8 0
 Agreed, 1up is the best tray-style rack that I've ever used. Still a little finicky sometimes, but by far the easiest to use and the most reliable.

My old review: www.pinkbike.com/news/1up-usa-quik-rack-review-2017.html
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: I'll read that article now but just curious what the finicky things were? I haven't seen that yet...operates like butter from what I've seen (esp w/ the XL fit and I should've added XXL fits too). Maybe some of the older models are wack?

PSA - 1up USA is in Wisconsin (not FL)
  • 4 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: The release bar on mine was a little sticky sometimes and it was awkward to reach. Not a deal-breaker at all, but worth mentioning since they're relatively expensive. Everyone at 1up is like "FLORDIA?! WE'RE IN WISCO!" haha My bad
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Ah that - so just push the ratcheting arms (slider) in toward the tire slightly to relieve the pressure (but I'm sure you or anyone knows that). I guess that just becomes normal. Yeah: FL, Wisc...same thing. Hopefully 1up will not be insulted...
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: 1-Up rules. All they need to do is re-jigger the ratcheting/release system
  • 1 0
 @Mtn-Goat-13: think he's talking about the bar that lets you move the position of the rack(up, middle, down). they actually have a solution to this now making it easier to reach and use. big fan of mine, and i don't have the attachment to make it easier.
  • 1 0
 @jpwvy5: Meaning that black slider underneath? If so then yeah: actually that's slightly tricky as it doesn't evenly slide out of both sides. I oiled mine though and that def helped it out, trick is just remembering to oil it (and other sliding parts every month or two. That really helps w/ everything.
  • 6 1
 Dodge Caravan. They are cheap, plentiful, reliable, comfortable, and not flashy so no one really notices you that much. Plus, the stow and go seating, where all the seats in the back fold completely into the floor so you don't have to store them somewhere when you don't want to use them, is a priceless feature.
  • 24 1
 Not sure about the reliability part. I worked in auto shops 10+ years and they definitely earned the name Scaravan
  • 3 0
 I’m with @DizzyNinja - I had one and the transmission blew halfway through a road trip. I’ve been scared off of them ever since.
  • 5 0
 A Caravan with the odd transmission rebuild is still a lot cheaper to operate than a sienna. Cheaper is good when covering a vehicle in bike mud, kid vomit, and dog hair. You know, like what’s in a caravan.
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 Ram 2500
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 NASCARavan. All the soccer dads driving these like they're out on the track! Driving to work doing 100mph & guys flying past like I'm the slow one. I keep my distance from caravan drivers!
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 My work vehicle has been caravans for the past 20 years. They have all been garbage. Everything from electrical gremlins to transmission. Mine were all ultra low mileage. However, waaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than the Toyota Sienna.
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 I would never voluntarily buy a Dodge product again with reliability in mind.
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 while I agree that it's not the most flashy or interesting vehicle available, me and my gf just got a subaru crosstrek and it's pretty amazing what that little thing is capable. Gets decent gas mileage, lots of room for camping gear and all and is relatively cheap. I get that most people are not big subaru fans because most of them get associated to cool bro stuff like ken block and modded stis or hippies but they're decent cars
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 Subaru owners fall into two camps: guys who wear Monster Energy hats and have strong opinions on which is the best Fast and Furious movie, and guys who have three bikes, a kayak, and a dog named "Blaze" or "Nugget."
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 @mudandgearspdx: Blaze or Nugget are likely some sort of Aussie Sheppard as well haha
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 @mudandgearspdx: HaHa Subaru owner here, 4 bikes, SUP, and one of my dogs is named Blaze.
From the PDX also.
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 @mikelevy: f*ck, I have two Aussies and drive a Subaru.
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 Have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner with ~270,000 miles now. Gets me and the bike everywhere and roomy enough to fit the whole bike in without needing to wheels off. Though with the rampant car break-ins here in CA, thats not really an option most of the time...
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 Same here - currently run 2000 TR4 4X4 E-Locker @ 245K. I love it so much I hate to leave it at trailheads, though. This is the last internal combustion engine'd vehicle I plan to buy and I don't want a hybrid or e-car.

Also in my MTB era I've run:

3 Buick Boat-tail Rivieras (70,70,71) Cursed at all 3
1971 Dodge Tradesman B200 Van - lived in
1970 Cadillac Sedan de Ville - lived on a mattress in the back seat
1977 Jeep Cherokee Chief Sport - camped in
1965 Chrysler New Yorker - slept in
1970 FIAT Sport Spider - passed out in
2007 Honda Odyssey - took kids to school in and traveled to races for a decade.
  • 6 1
 I often dream of a Ford Excursion 7.3L with the Bitterroot Diesel VegiStroke kit and a custom 36/8 tank to replace the stock 44 gal diesel tank. Free fuel and low emissions, if you don't mind a bit of work collecting and filtering used veggie oil from the local burger joints.
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 I used to obsess over converting an old 7.3 or better yet, 5.9 Cummins. Then I learned that almost all veggie oil from restaurants is already spoken for by big recycling companies, at least in a lot of towns and cities. I did meet a guy from Boston, in Sedona, who'd converted a Jetta wagon to burn veggie oil. He was pulling a small trailer with a 55 gal. drum to collect oil and the trailer also housed all of the filtering equipment necessary. He was getting 55mpg in that setup, so cool.
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 @pdxkid: yeah there’s snags, it helps to be in areas where you can hit up independent restaurants. And then there’s the issue of road tripping, collecting, filtering. I’d want it more for local drives. But yeah, I’ve got the 6.0 in an Ex and I’d probably do a Cummins swap first when this motor goes.
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 Well there is hope, that 6.0 won't last long. I remember seeing someone trying to swap a 5.9 into an E350 van but gave up,don't remember why.
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 @JSTootell: haha, yeah, surprisingly this 6.0 has been pretty good and just under 200k on it, I don't run tunes or pull anything crazy heavy. It's got EGR delete, HPOP and other updates, newer oil cooler, etc, and I stay on top of servicing it. But yeah, it's just a matter of when, not if.
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 @chacou: if you're not being silly with the engine, you might be just fine. Most of the horror stories seem to be with people who can't leave well enough alone. Oh, and the EGR.

I've got a stock 7.3. Slow, but it'll never die.
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 Fully middle-aged dad to multiple kids perspective: F-150 V8 plus 20 foot travel trailer. Fixes all the downsides of a camper van at a fraction of the cost: stand up space, bathroom with shower, decent bed, room to hang out, cooking space, refrigerator, etc. Yes, there are disadvantages, and I would love to win the lotto and be one of the cool old dudes in a Revel 4x4. But for significantly less cost than a built out van, you can have more camping comfort and also a pickup that you can drive the rest of the year, including all the shuttling or other non-camping rides you do with family and friends.
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 I despise the amount of sense you just made.
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 40’+ length has some limitations, no?
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 Helps if you have a home to park that trailer in. Also the income to buy a truck and trailer. I'm a skilled trademan at a union job, I don't have that kind of income.
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 Everyone thinks the Tacoma is the best mtb vehicle but they're WAY off...it's a 4runner.
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 I have both, a 2012 (T) and a 2007&1985 (T4R), although the creature comfort of my 2012 always wins in the end
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 Yep - 3rd Gen for me!
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 Dissappointed in the 4Runner for bikes inside. w/ the 60% split seat completely taken out it fits 2 bikes about as good as our old RAV4 (version w/ spare on the back so cargo was pretty good). For the enormous size difference still not sure how that works but might check into that Sienna idea.
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 Honda Accord. I get 37-40mpg on the highway with the bike on a 1up hitch rack. Doubles as the family road trip car so I like the massive trunk, seating for 5, and it’s quick and easy to get the baby seats out.

Before that when I didn’t care about mpg and we used the wife’s Outback for road trips I had a F150 supercrew 4x4 with a v8 and chunky tires. Perfect shuttle rig with seating for 6 and a tailgate pad for the bikes. Single bike duty was just throw the bike in the bed laying on its side. I miss that truck, but I don’t miss the 14-18mpg.

Getting older and more responsible is lame. Stay young forever and drive fun stuff without looking at the long term costs!
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 When the current Pathfinder we have dies, I reckon I might switch to something more fuel efficient as well. It's super functional but paying for the fuel sucks. It is a 5 speed, so there's that at least.
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 @illili: since they don’t make suvs like that anymore, I’ve been looking at clearly aimed at old people GMC Terrain with the Diesel engine. 28-38mpg, room in the back and awd. Only issue might be clearance.
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 Props to those that roll with just a regular ol' car and still get it done. My 2010 VW Jetta SE with 165,000 miles, 2-spot hitch mount, roof rack, rocket box, has a top speed 110mph, gets 35mpg, has lay down seats, fits in any parking spot and hauls mail on the mountain roads serves very well. One less Sprinter...
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 I never got the hype around vans and stuff for mountain biking anyway. They aren’t easy or fun to drive, and are bad for fuel economy.
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 @xxinsert-name-herexx: practicality instagram
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 @xxinsert-name-herexx: I think the hype is vs. a truck. When you compare to a truck there are many more positives to go to a van.
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 I honestly loved my old Fiesta. Killer had mileage, reliable as a brick (at least with 170,000 miles on it), super easy to wrench on when doing your own maintenance (did a timing belt, water pump,etc at 150k), and actually fun to drive. Wrecked a set of tires at a track day a little while back.

Unfortunately, a texting driver decided to turn it into a Fsitea (smashing the car in half).

The replacement vehicle is way more practical though for my lifestyle.
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 Too many practical choices here. The obvious answer is a 2-door manual VW GTI with a hitch rack. Sure, you'll have to crawl on the fire road to the trail head wishing your suspension wasn't tuned like a trek supercaliber. Ok, you can't live in it for days at a time, and it won't run shuttle duty. But if throwing the car around the b-roads to and from your ride doesn't fill your soul, wipe yourself off man. You're dead.
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 MK7 GTI! So fun.
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 The US Market has a big hole where my perfect vehicle sits.

I want a basic 4WD Cargo Van - about the size of Kaz’s van or just slightly bigger.

Clean Diesel engine for good MPG - 5speed Manual Transmission w/ low range - maybe a locking diff. - about 10in clearance.

Simple boxy exterior - no jelly bean styling.

SIMPLE with limited computers and electronics.

Low roof with pop-top would be cool - or just tall enough to stand in.

Do this for $30-35k and I’ll sell my crosstrek and I won’t look back.
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 Sure would be cool to see the Element revived with hybrid power. Give it a lift and the eCamper pop-top, and hit the road. Similarly I wonder if Ford might put a van body on the upcoming Maverick hybrid pickup chassis. THAT would be cool.
But if you’re willing to drive on the left side of the vehicle, look for a Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) Toyota van with a diesel motor. There are many you can import now: TownAce or HiAce, both boxy and reliable. Lots and lots of importers popping up in the US. Or buy one in Canada and bring it down.
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 Question for next week.... Should taller, heavier riders have more suspension travel than shorter lighter riders given the same use case scenario. All the other geometries change to make an overall bigger bike, so why not the travel?
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 +1. Also discuss if its better to spend $ making current suspension better, vs just getting more travel.
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 I do not understand why anyone would choose a Delica over a Toyota Sienna AWD with a 3.5" Journeys Offroad lift kit. For the coolness factor?? With the Sienna you basically get a LHD lifted V6 van that is actually reliable, and you can find domestic parts for it.
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 Delica parts are easy to get, and they’re more capable (especially the L300) from the get-go. They’re far more of a neat truck than a van, and the cab-over layout makes it a very different driving experience. Also, I’ll admit that I just want something interesting - that’s a big factor for me. I love driving so it’s more than just getting somewhere Smile
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 Loving my Honda Ridgeline aka Pantyline. We had 6 people and 5 bikes in it for a 45 minute shuttle ride, no problem. The back seats fold up (honda is clever with storage) and I can put my Ripmo in with the front wheel off for after-ride beers. Rides like an SUV and not a clunky truck. And it fits two dirtbikes when needed. Great truck.
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 First or second gen? I've been thinking about a 1st gen to replace my '95 single cab long bed f-150 (have family now). I do love my old ford though...
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 1st gen Ridgeline all the way. Such a practical truck for nearly everything unless you need to tow heavy equipment. Storage in the bed that doubles as a cooler and is also big enough to put your nasty grill that you bring for a post ride grilling session, or your rotten clothing. Plus, it’s durable as it gets.
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 All cars suck. I drive them, but they suck. They kill people and they warm the planet. The best car is no car, and riding to the trailhead. Second best is anything that can carry a bike and does the least impact to people and the planet.
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 The best car is a loud, fast car Smile
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 Username does not suit.
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 @mikelevy: can’t believe there haven’t been more responses about fun cars. I love to ride but I also love fast cars. Happy to compromise the packing situation and enjoy my drive to the trailhead too- it’s my precious and hard-earned “me time” for the week and I might as well get to enjoy every moment of it.
Recently picked up a Ford Focus ST225 with a rowdy 5 cylinder turbo. Cheap enough (to purchase at least) that I wont care when it gets a bit muddy inside, practical enough to make it work as a daily and bike hauler and that 5 pot turbo makes all the right rally noises to make me smile wherever I am! Smile
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 So you are saying my 7.3 liter diesel is a no go?

Bummer.
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 @mikelevy:
What bike rack best suits a Ford GT40 ?
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 @Jmac888: That looks like such a fun car!
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 @dlford: I would say a strap-on rack but I think it'd need to be bolted down haha
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 Literally anything with a hitch mount will do for taking bikes around. Personally I have a Lister twin supercharger swapped XJ220, but I'll be the first to admit it's not practical in the slightest.

Still love it Smile
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 Holy shit, for real? What a wild car. Is that your daily driver?
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 Wtf. An xj220 with a bike on the back!
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 @mikelevy: Yep, bought it when it didn't cost more than a house, and I've done 120,000 miles in the 3 years that the engine has been swapped. It's also on bags with an electronic locking diff, scissor doors, and I've got it to 238 MPH on the autobahn. Next time I may have the balls to try 250 MPH. It's stupid but you only live once.
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 @xxinsert-name-herexx: Incredible. So cool to hear about that wild car.
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 Please tell tell us you have a suction bike rack on that thing!
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 @peterknightuk: Yep, part of the rear diffuser is in the way of where a hitch mount would go, but I'm still careful as there's no way I'm finding a new rear window.
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 @xxinsert-name-herexx: Yes dude! That's brilliant!
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 This being 9/11, the prompt about a road trip has me thinking to 20 years ago when I was supposed to catch a flight out of Seattle that Tuesday afternoon with my riding pal and bike shop coworker. We had booked a trip months prior based around permits we got to float the Colorado River out of Fruita. We built a whole trip around it: we planned to bring our FR bikes and ride down Pikes Peak, then Fruita, and then Moab. Well of course we awoke to the tragedies in NYC and DC and PA, and thought the trip might be a bust as there were obviously no commercial flights for the foreseeable future. But by noon we hatched a plan to drive to Colorado in my Volvo wagon, and by lunchtime September 13th, we were on our bikes in Colorado Springs. It was a weird way to experience the week after 9/11: out in the mountains away from the media and hype and endless footage of burning buildings and ash-covered first-responders. But that’s how we spent that week - living as if it literally might be the end. Don’t meant to make that melodramatic… that’s just what we did.
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 I feel like there was an unspoken rule here that didn’t get a mention.. and that is that the true mountain biker’s vehicle should never exceed that value of the bike it carries and that the ratio of how much cheaper it is shows how hardcore you are as a rider!
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 Gotta think a zero-emissions vehicle should be on this list.

This would be my #1: www.alphamotorinc.com/wolf
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 My Pacifica Hybrid isn't pure electric, but it still gets me to most local trails and back without sipping gas (50-60km on pure battery power) and can comfortably do 6 riders and bikes with two on the roof and four on the hitch. I'd love to go pure electric, but right now there's very little choice for something big enough to haul my whole family for under six figures.

I also have a family member in BC who uses a Tesla Model 3 with a North Shore rack for a fam of 4 and it has served them very well in place of their previous Outback.
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 @big-red: I test drove a Pacifica Hybrid and was impressed. Ended up with a Model 3 but the Pacifica Hybrid was a close second. I agree that there is a huge dearth of larger PHEV or EV people movers currently. Quite a few coming though. Good to hear your Pacifica is working well.
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 The Rivian is super interesting, too. I'd love to get one in for long-term testing.
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 @big-red: How's the reliability of your van? Those look REALLY nice but I am anxious about the long term...

Another option out there that doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet is the about-to-be-released Ford Maverick. Though it's a small pickup it's optionally hybrid-powered and gets 36MPG.
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 @mikelevy: Rivian is definitely super interesting. I actually have deposits down on both Cybertruck and Ford Lightning. Would much prefer the Lightning and probably won't get a Cybertruck as a yoke in a truck is nonsensical. I haven't pursued the Rivian as I was worried it'd be vaporware but they have impressed and are said to be starting deliveries in '21. Use your Outside pull and get one for test @mikelevy
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 Not 0 emissions, but my 2010 Prius punches way above it's weight. Gonna put the studded snow tires on here shortly. Little thing rallies, cheap to fill up, and we've fit 4 beating hearts and 3 bikes on it for shuttles even (3 humans + dog inside). I've got a 2004 Excursion for our family camper that I'd love to do a VegiStroke conversion to, but it's the 6.0L so it's much more tricky to run wvo on that motor than the 7.3L. If you can find older diesels you can often convert them to run on WVO relatively easily, after all the diesel motor was originally designed to run on veggie oil.
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 @heatproofgenie: the Ford Lightning is very intriguing, just need infrastructure to catch up and some standards around chargers, seems all the charging stations I see around CO are for Tesla only.
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 @chacou: Yeah Lightning is going to be cool. Unfortunately Ford is only planning on producing like 15,000 for first model year and then ramping slowly (IMO) from there. Electrify America project is bringing lots of non Tesla chargers to the US. Fallout of diesel gate.
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 @sngltrkmnd: My 2018 and all the 2017s had a really weird problem with the software of the infotainment system that has since been fixed with updates. The hoods have a near-universal problem with the aluminum oxidizing a bit and causing bubbling of the paint along the leading edge (I'm on a list waiting for a new hood along with everyone else). I've heard mixed things about their reliability otherwise but haven't had any issues. I'm generally warry of Chrysler for the same exact reason, but I know that they went balls-out on the Pacifica design because they wanted to retake the lead on minivans because that was their hallmark for so many years.

Other thoughts: I test-drove all the vans when I bought mine and it was the best. Easy to drive. Comfortable, smooth as silk. Most models come with really slick roof racks where the cross-bars are included and stowed in the rails until you need them. It was going to cost me $1600+ to get rack on any other van, so I loved that. Driving on electric is sooooooo smooth and quiet. I cringe a bit when the (still very quiet) gas engine comes on. It gets between 6 and 8 L/100km when running without charged batteries, so still waaaaay better than the same van with the gas engine only. It runs the gas engine to warm up the cabin and batteries in the winter when it's below 0 degrees C and your gas milage drops to like 10-11 L/100km (still 1-3 L/100km better than gas-only vans). You can't two any weight with it (hitch-mount bike racks are fine though). The batteries in the hybrid model go where the middle-row stow-and-go seats would normally hide when stowed, so you get different middle row seats that are heavy to remove, but are definitely more comfortable. If you have a family of 5 and want to haul stuff (i.e. going camping), be prepared to remove a middle row seat, sit two kids in the 3rd row and one in the middle, then store stuff on the floor beside/in front of them because there's no option to put three kids in the middle row in the Hybrid version.

That's all I can think of. All-in-all, if your round-trip commute is under 60km, you basically have an EV commuter and family road-trip hauler in one vehicle. For us that's perfect because we only own one car. If you're a two-car family, I'd recommend something like the new Toyota hybrid van (towing capacity, still really good on gas) and a used Nissan Leaf or something like that as the commuting-only car.
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 @big-red: Interesting - thanks for sharing the nitty-gritty details!
I've had a Previa for a number of years and now an 07 Sienna in my driveway - I tend to lean towards Toyotas but I appreciate the beta on other brands. What a drag about the paint - isn't it odd that those types of defects still occur? I mean, cars have been painted for a hundred years. How do defects persist? Anyhow, that is a discussion for another time. Clever you noticed the value in the roof rack configuration.
It seems it can tow 3,600# (besting the new Sienna by 100#) but I guess that's not much if you're considering a travel trailer. I'd definitely be using the tow hitch for my 1Up rack though I would check the departure angle before committing to it: my friend's '12 Sienna has a really poor departure angle with a Kuat rack installed.
I had a '21 Sienna as a loaner a few mo ago - it was a completely loaded Platinum model. It seems the middle seats are basically un-removable, which is really odd. Rear row tumbles - the batteries must not be there. There's no sunroof which kinda disappoints me, and the overall feel of the middle and back is MUCH more cave-like than previous Toyota vans. I need to measure the rear door opening - I swear it's smaller than either of my vans. That said, it can run on batteries only like your Chrysler (I have an 11mile, 35mph commute), and it has an optional 1500W generator in the back for when the power goes out at my house, which is common in the winter. I also dig the cooler/heated compartment in the front console - my son has Type 1 Diabetes so keeping insulin cool on a roadtrip is a consideration.
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 If there is no mention of the ubiquitous VW Transporter (50% of UK riders have them) then I'll be disapointed.
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 Had a T5 for a while, loved it, but my other half didn't like it as it was so noisy in the cab and it was starting to corrode a bit. Sold it, got a Golf with a towbar and Atera hitch rack. That's been pretty good, but it's a nuisance that you can't leave the car parked up with the bikes on, really restricts what else you can do on a day that involves biking.

Thinking of switching back to a van again - hoping that electric camper VW have in the works might be big enough to get bikes in (and be cheap on a lease!)
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 You can just turn up to any trailhead car park and see at least two or there of them at any given point
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 Vans (at least VW) definitely seem to be a British thing. Car parks always full of em.

Rightly so too, I’ll have one once I need more seats than the two in my caddy
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 Miss my T5.
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 As a new driver and one with not much money a vehicle was a serious investment. I hummed and hawed on cheap truck in the sub-4k range, however on Vancouver Island trucks are worth their weight in gold, and finding something that wouldn't kill for 4 G's would be near impossible. In a spur of the moment decision I opened up the search perimeters and found a 05 Chevy Colorado for $11500. This was over double what I set aside but everything seemed right about the vehicle. I phoned up the guy immediately and agreed to meet him an hour afterwards. Maybe you get the feeling every time buying a new vehicle but I fell in love with it right away. We signed the papers, brought the fellow some cash and I was $10500 poorer, but I had my dream truck.
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 Kazimer is dead on. The right MTB rig is the one you can afford and allows you to spend more money on bikes. My rig is a 2001 Subaru Outback with a 2 bike tray on the back and 2 roof top racks. Fantastic way to run 4 bikes and I could get an an extension for the tray to be able to haul 6 bikes. Recently upgraded the struts and springs to make it even more capable offroad. Each of my 3 mountain bikes are more valuable than my car. It's all about priorities.....
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 No one mentioned putting a camper shell on a truck with an extended cab and 6ft bed? Fork mounts in the bed and roof racks on the shell. Bikes inside the camper shell for regular life and bikes on the roof when sleeping in the bed.

A lot of strange unrealistic vehicles suggested on here...
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 Any car does the job.
If you need one that gets you cheap and fast to your destination that is 1000miles away, then you will make compromises when packing the bike into the car (with 120mph on the autobahn you don´t want a rack). Citroen CX Break...

@mikelevy: wasn´t there this other mtb related website with a series about mtb owners and their cars...;D?
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 In the UK if you drive 1000 miles you fall into the sea.
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 " Any car does the job." Incorrect, one of my closest riding buddies drove an Audi TT for years. Didn't make any sense and I was basically his chauffeur with my van all the time. He has an A4 now which is barely any better, I believe he put his bike inside it twice in the last few years.
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 @Mugen: you should have told him to get a bike rack a few years ago.
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 @Mugen:

Friend of mine has a TT, doesn’t ride bikes but has roof bars for his surfboards. It’s a pretty cool look haha
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 There have been many websites that do car/bike stuff, including us from ages ago:
www.pinkbike.com/news/lauren-greggs-custom-ford-transit-van-2016.html
www.pinkbike.com/news/vehicle-check-ryan-leechs-custom-earthcruiser-and-ram-power-wagon.html

We're also working on some videos Wink
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 My favorite that I've owned: WRX. My wishlist car: MB E63 wagon.
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 AMG for your MTB trip.
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 @mikelevy: BMW 335 wagon.
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 Loved my 12 STi, felt kinda of bad dragging it up some of the dirt roads I did but man was it a blast. Currently waiting on factory ordered diesel colorado zr2 bison as a replacement.
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 in the early 1990s, VW Fox Wagons were more common than Toyota trucks for mtn bikers in BC
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 AWD Ford Flex, Yakima Hold-Up 2" rack (with 2 bike add-on when needed). Seats 7 if needed, back seat folds down when needed, with seat down a couple of bikes can fit inside when needed.
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 A buddy of mine has the Flex and loves it. So much room inside.
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 I have one and I love it so much. Have kids so bikes on the roof but could go inside with both rear rows folded down. Aaaand it has 365 hp for way more fun than a mini van like vehicle should be.
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 The quintessential MTB vehicle is the Tacoma, at least it seems that way in the Greater Van area. It would be my choice if I had $$$.

My Optic barely fits in the back of my Sienna, and it's a good hauling machine. Otherwise I fit my bike on any crappy car that will make it to the mountain.
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 Tacoma with 1Up rack AND a DaKine pad here. Works great for up to 6 bikes. Of course we don't dare leave them out of sight. Next bike vehice will be a used Chevy Express cargo van. With a large dog inside with the bikes.
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 I would say T5, however for some reason not available in US;

Other than that any car with 2' hitch fit the bill, since you can put bike rack, grab your family or friends and hit the trail's
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 I drive a VW Transporter Kombi van, which was bought as it van easily transport my family and our bikes without having to attach anything to the outside. There’s a reason that UK trail centre car parks are full of VW Transporters!
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 Really happy with my Kia Niro. It is comfy with plenty of room in the hatch. Four bike rack and I'll been getting 60mpg (more than I am supposed to get).

That said. I more often than not am driving just myself and not me plus 3 (literally has not happened yet). I have been trying to get the most life out of my 15 year old Mercury Milan sedan. Just take the front wheel off and throw the bike in the the trunk.
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 Question for Future Podcast.

Been riding for years but just started getting into watching downhill racing. Very fun to watch and starting to get the hang of it but had a few questions:

1) Why are there so many whistles during the practice? ps. what a job, blowing your whistle every time you see a rider!
2) Can someone explain the live broadcasts? They say live and the announcers are reporting as if it is in real time, BUT there is almost always a minute or so skipped usually near the top of the course. How does that work?
3) Do they stagger the racers so there is more than one on the track at a time, or does 1 person go once the person in front of them finished?
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 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (the 4 door)

I have a plank of wood in the back with two axle clamps. I can fit two bikes inside with the front wheels off, 3 in a pinch. The bikes are locked up inside, out of the elements, traffic etc. The Jeep gets into any trailhead and I can sleep in the back if I want. For me, it's the perfect MTB lifestyle vehicle!
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 I’ve been using the sea sucker mounts on my Fiesta ST for the past year and a half. While the thought of suction cups holding my heavy mtb as I whip around corners is scary af, they haven’t failed me yet. @mikelevy you just gotta embrace the suc.
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 I had my bike roll off my hitch rack on my Fiesta a couple times. Little cars can pull some g's.
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 I have an older Audi A3 hatch. Seems to work well enough. Bikes go on the hitch rack and everything else in the trunk. No need to even fold down the seats. The power is more than adequate to pass and merge...even when fully loaded.
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 Assuming I can still keep my early 2000s SUVs for trip and shuttle duty, the ultimate MTB vehicle would be something like an S3/Golf R or an 86/BRZ/FRS- you can fire a hitch on the back for your rack and then haul ass up to the chairlift. I've never seen a cop on the road to sun peaks past Heffley, incidentally.
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 That road is AMAZING.
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 I don't really understand what's the point of this episode, this question has been answered already. One of the most experienced and skilled riders (The David Hasselhoff of MTB) once said - "I think this is the perfect vehicle for a mountain biker" - AMG G63.
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 Question: can you explain why o-chain is a better option than just having a lower engagement hub?

Should warranty issues be up to the bike manufacturer or the shop that sold the bike. Had a very very very unpleasant experience with this.
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 I’ve got a question for the podcast: what kind of bike setup would you guys pick for long distance rides? The area where I live lacks a trail network, so I’ve been considering some 80-100km (50-60 miles) rides on all sorts of dirt roads and paths. I’ve just bought a aluminum 130mm trail bike and wonder how can I get the most out of it for those distances.
Thanks!
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 I have the 7 bike VelociRack for big shuttle runs & family vacations. IMO best vertical rack out there. Also dark horse tray rack option is Raxter. I have a 2 bike Raxter, love it because it's not complicated and is super flexible for all my bikes from 20" kids bikes to 29ers.
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 Submission for Q&A Podcast. I'd like to hear Seb Scott and Mike Levy debate short travel vs. long travel bikes.

The question: Can a short travel bike with modern geo be more fun than a longer travel bike? Or does this quest for sportiness just end in joint-pain?
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 It’s crazy seeing the vast number of different options over in the states and elsewhere. UK wise, we have but two options really (well, what’s the common options anyway)

1: a van like a VW Transporter/Mercedes Vito.- three seats up front and a full rear cargo area to pile your bikes and kit in.
This then gets either a euro-pikey conversion of a blow up mattress and sleeping bag in the back for race weekend or trips, or it gets the full budget conversion.
With UK 8month glorious wet weather, the cover of changing in the back is the major pull towards it.

2: is whatever you can get your hands on. I remember my first ever car was a Citroen AX 1.0ltr three door hatchback! (Late 90’s/early 00’s) Proper tiny car for a 6ft 2in man child. Probably only a tiny bit bigger than your classic mini @mikelevy.
I still however managed to get two (wheels off) DH bikes and and kit in the back to travel to wherever we’d ride/ race.

Now in the more experienced years of life, I won’t put up with struggling or roughing it so I’ll always have as big a wagon as possible to transport everything around with.
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 Question for the Q&A show: if you had the opportunity to standardise something with the global MTB community in a demigod manner (@mikelevy: we know you tend to think you’re already there), what would it be?

Would it be a specific component on all levels of budget on bikes, trail ethos/legal requirements, capping price points on bikes and components or something else?

We know some of you tend Not to air your opinions on the podcast so feel free to punch the mute button on @mikelevy and get your word in.
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We have a tandem MTB as well as single bikes and we tow a trailer, so a 2014 Dodge RAM 1500 with a full size truck bed is the ticket. For security we run a giant chain through all the frames to the tie downs as well as cables securing the front and back wheels. The photo is us parked in Vegas and we've yet to have a theft in a decade. We'd love a van to keep the bikes enclosed, but a 4WD that can carry the tandem and fit a couple passengers makes this a tough ask without spending $100K. Maybe some day a domestic manufacturer will come out with a full size van with stock 4WD, but until then we'll keep RAMing it.
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 My 7 seater 2014 Mitsubishi Outlander works a treat for shuttling and day trips with a "Dirty Possum" 6 bike vertical hitch rack with a swing arm for boot access, and a Yakima Front Loader on the roof for bike #7.

We call it The Send Wagon.
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 best MTB vehicle to have people think you are pulling a prank: Subaru BRZ / Toyota 86

some even talked to me like - what the heck YOU doing here? But when they saw me actually get a bike out. losing their minds lol
yes you have to take out both wheels and remove pedals. bit of a hassle. but worth it
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 The Topher, a YouTube car reviewer had/had a BRZ and also loved how his MTB fit. I asked him how a bike fits in the new one after he reviewed it and he didn't have an answer, so I'm guessing MTB is a lower hobby for him.
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 Mine isn't the best vehicle, but fits my wants and needs. 1995 7.3 liter retired ambulance. Cabinets store spare parts,clothes, pantry, cooking supplies, running, biking, and a little climbing gear (new to climbing). The bed I built uses a bouldering pad as a mattress and has enough space for my GF and I to fit comfortable. I have enough tools onboard to do some roadside repairs of needed. Fuel mileage isn't horrible.

Unfortunately it isn't covert at all. I'm an introvert but everyone wants to talk to me about it.

I want to put a bike rack on my motorcycle for shorter trips and just more basic camping. Sadly, another vehicle that draws attention.

My economy hatchback really was the best vehicle. Cheap,simple, reliable, practical, and did so much with so little. It was taken from this world too soon by a careless driver.
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 For the Q&A: As a Brit who wants to take a trip to the US - if you had to choose one place to spend a week mountain biking where would it be? Would you go for the absolute best trails, or maybe somewhere with good trails but more interesting scenery?
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 Great pod! I love cars and planned buying my F150 around bike stuff. We have a greenway in the neighborhood and I like to take my kids down there to pedal out some energy 2-3x per week. The tailgate pad makes this SUPER simple and a no-brainer. I love the simplicity of the tailgate pad and having a truck bed for everything else is great! My ULTIMATE setup would be adding a GoFastCamper style truck topper to more securely carry bikes when on trips, etc. I get 19-23 mpg with the ecoboost engine. It's great!
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 In the 90's use to go to my local DH races on a Mini Studio 2, @mikelevy, and yes.. wheels off, lift the 2 fronts seats, wheels on the rear seat and there you go... can´t imagine you on a xl our L 29 frame doing that now!

I do still have minis and bikes but just not as your every day thing Smile

www.pinkbike.com/photo/19275703

www.pinkbike.com/photo/15590886

www.pinkbike.com/photo/15590898
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 Question for the tech editors: When it comes to testing and producing product reviews for products besides complete bikes, surely you have many things that you are testing simultaneously. What is your strategy for reviewing when going out on rides when you inevitably have a new tire, set of brakes and drivetrain hanging off of your test mule with deadlines approaching for all three? Do you focus on a different product each ride or do you simply ride and then reflect on your experience with each product after the fact?
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 @mikelevy & @mikekazimer

Twinlock is not just a simple pedal-platform / lockout-switch.
It also reduces the volume of the positive air chamber, which stiffens the air spring, which in turn raises the BB, so we can all clear obstacles a little easier. Sounds like something an ebike could benefit from.

Scott spends so much effort explaining this to people, but to no avail. Everyone just sees it as a simple lockout. I know, it is hard to distinguish BS from actual function in our field.

That said, we can all agree it is useless on the fork (unless you like sprinting).
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 Sure, but I still think it's silly on an e-bike Smile
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 Don’t know if I am too late for the QUESTIONS podcast? But here goes anyway…. I am about to retire my 2008 Turner Flux (for a Starling Murmur). The Turner has bushings instead of bearings. These are still going strong with no play after 13 years! I do have to blast some grease in every so often as the main pivot is starting to creak a little, but it has grease ports for this. The question is, why don’t more bikes come with bushings? My pal has a Turner 5 Spot which had a similar lifespan. Thanks, awesome podcast.
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 51:48 really surprised to hear Kaz say that about the kuat racks. I literally had to add extra metal parts to mine so you can't fold it. I got so tired of other people folding it when I was just going to grab groceries or mid-ride.
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 Drove an Astro and a Safari growing up and can confirm they are amazing bike vehicles. I think they aren’t really unsung hero’s since the Van life movement has started to snag them up, but I would gladly get another one if the chance came up…and someone wasn’t asking the Van life price tag
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 Come on guys it’s gotta be a Mini Cooper m.pinkbike.com/photo/21281652
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 WRX with a hitch rack. The trunk is pretty big and the drive wont bore you to death.
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 Got 2.... you ain't wrong.
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 Damn I also have a AWD Safari... Though the mileage is such shit and gas is so expensive I only drive it 2x a month. Still feel like I made the right choice though, and I'll never be homeless!
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 Ford Transit Connect XLT. My bikes live inside. Daily driver, such a sleeper
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 Nice to see I'm not the only one, I love my little Connect! Exceptional on gas, handles like a much smaller more agile car, fairly reliable, fits both of my bikes in the back while still having room to fit a small cot, I'm short enough that I can stand up in it to change inside if need be... the list goes on. The only downside... my coworkers do make fun of me for driving the equivalent of our local mail delivery vans hahahaha but i still have my Evo for a fun car.
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 @mikelevy
1 Up U.S.A. the bike rack manufacturer is based out of Dickeyville, WI... (Not Florida)
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 Ah, my bad. Thanks!
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 @mikelevy: Besides typing Dickeyville is funny in a juvenile way...
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 holding onto my sedan with crappy 1.25" hitch for dear life until more brands come out with compact electric trucks
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 I vote shitbox Ford Ranger for the win. It's not worth driving if you don't have 1/4 turn of play in the steering wheel and an oil leak.
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 Brings back memories.
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 @mikelevy: I'm only 16, I ain't bringing em back, I'm making em! Big Grin
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 why does every old ford ranger have no muffler?
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 Pretty sure the previous generation came from the factory like that lol
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 @Stoaks: my sons ranger is worse than an open pipe harley.
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 question for next episode: Can the PB podcast become a video stream podcast...seeing everyone's reaction to Levy's comments would be legendary. Outside must have funding for that
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 VW T5 5 cylinder 2.5 litre. Semi high top long wheelbase. Have had 7 bikes with some creative stacking, 5 without, plus gear and still room for 5 people in the front.
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 I mean, are you even a north shore mountain biker if you don't have a tacoma?
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 TRD and with some type of rooftop tent and big meat. It's not a bad look and is functional, but don't people want something different?
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 I’m selling my 325xi manual wagon with a hitch on it (which had my bike rack). It’s an ok car for mountain biking, but not if you like to keep your car clean. Upgrading to an AWD RAV4 - more ground clearance.
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 I race High School NICA in Norcal California, and there's this dude that drives around the camp in Pinzguar. It is one the most legit cars ever...so sick.
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 Ford Raptor with a tailgate pad. Not great fuel economy but it’s so comfortable on long rides that it puts passengers to sleep. Fun as hell off road too.

Used to have a wrx wagon which was great too
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 I'm here rockin a turbo Subi Forester, with a lift kit and tires so big my spare is mounted on the hitch. all the funs. But I can't wait to swap it for a 4motion VW van or a JDM 4wd diesel Toyota Hiace van
  • 2 0
 my 96 suburban with the 3rd row removed allows for van-like bike/gear storage and sleeping.

gas mileage is terrible, but i try to drive it deliberately.
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 Really just want a Fiat Panda 4x4 tho…
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy Can we get a video breakdown of your tattoo's? What are your favorites ones, which ones do you regret (if that is possible)? What about the other guys- @brianpark @mikekazimer and other staff members?
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 If @brianpark has any tattoos I haven't seen them... I'm hoping he has a Canadian flag backpiece that I don't know about.
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 No ragrets!
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 Question: when are you going to randomly select cameo
“ Pinkers’ ’” to join you on podcast shows? Get the ground truth for the market. Or will this be part of the dreaded PAYWALL…. Ha.
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 @reecewallace wins by far. And no, I'm not going on a flight with you, sorry. Planes are scary Smile
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 no mention of the Land Rover Defender? that and the Nissan Patrol can fit a lot of people on the rear benches, leaving you with the problem of figuring out how many bikes you can fit on the top and rear of the car!
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 Look up the new XBUS, it was just announced last week. Looks like a modern version of the VW doka syncro. really hoping they come to the US!! electricbrands.de/en/myxbus
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 Deuce and a half is the way to go for funsies.
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 Spoiler alert: Whistler Chairlift for the win.
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 right hand drive @mikelevy: ?? are there many others in Whistler/Squamish area or is just that I happend to see you every other day the summer I passed there?
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 The Delica is RHD but I sold it many years ago. There are tons of Delicas out there now that everyone knows how amazing they are. The Mini is also RHD just by coincidence.
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 Canada has a really loose import rule so there are a lot of Japanese market cars up there. Delicas are cool but only if you are okay with your femur being the crumple zone and are shorter than 6'2" tall.
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 @jmhills: I am those things haha
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 @jmhills: Canada has a really restricted import policy, i can bring my Renault Megane RS or an Alpine in Canada, I have to wait a few years. But I can easily bring a car from the US to Europe.

Delicas are a bit tricky on corners, I love my RHD Subaru B4 RSK at least it is way better and faster than most of the Subaru in North America.
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 @Ba1rog: Please send me a message when your Alpine gets here.
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 @Ba1rog: Sorry, my frame of reference are US laws which, by comparison, Canada is far looser.
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 @mikelevy: I spent a good amount of time driving a Delica around. They are cool but I would never want to roll in one over a long distance.

Cars are subjective though.
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 @jmhills: Oh man, really? I thought they were the best road trip vehicle ever... aside from being quite slow. The captains chairs are so comfortable, and we had a one-person bed in the back so whoever wasn't driving could rest up for their turn behind the wheel. Not good on diesel, but so comfortable!
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 @mikelevy: Yeah, horrible time. I am 6'3". The drivers seat itself was cozy but I had no place to put my legs really. It is also quite narrow and slab sided inside so crosswinds were a ton of fun.
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 @jmhills: You reminded me how bad that thing was in crosswinds - horrible! As well as the legroom; I'm 5'10" and the seat was pushed all the way back.
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 @mikelevy: i hope the person in the bed was wearing their seatbelt ;-)
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 @fabwizard: Nope, but the bed was very comfortable.
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 @mikelevy: Waaay back in my motorcycle racing days me and my buddies went through a phase of propane powered vehicles. My last one was a converted E350 with a 3 ft extended body. Could fit 6 road race bikes in it. No back seats so passengers sat on folding lawn chairs from Vancouver to Calgary.

It is amazing how quick a person in a lawn chair flies at the front window when you brake suddenly for deer.
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 @mikelevy: Yeah, it is one of my most memorable experiences. I felt like a clown bus driver due to the lack of leg room and having the steering wheel between my knees. It was more comfortable than my old Defender but just.
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 @jmhills: hahaha no worries, but so much fun to have uncommon cars, in France / Switzerland we have some brand new muscle cars and pick up trucks from the US. In Canada I have a nice and fun Subaru B4 but I miss my Megane 3 RS. So sad german car lobby destroy your market with this law. Anyway the 90s Japanese car IMO were the best one. They were crazy without the electronic, love my B4 even 23 years ago I kick some Teslas asses.
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 @mikelevy: I almost bought an original Alpine A110 in Vancouver 6 years for $60.000 but someone was faster than me. I have an R5 alpine at home but the new A110 is nice but I hate the automatic transmission but I know it is feasible to transform into a manual with the 6 speed from the Megane 4 RS.
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 @Ba1rog: There are some amazing old ones out there on BAT, but so expensive now. Did you see this red one: bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-alpine-a-110-2 All my wants. You'd make a lot of us jealous if put a stick in the new one...
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 @mikelevy: Running your steering wheel on the correct side Mike? You will be running your brake levers the correct way round just like Henry soon!
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 @mikelevy: That one is clean, i never saw one in red, I love the A110 it is so light and a drifting machine but so small for me ( 6'1), I drove many expensive Lambos and Porsches but in France everybody love the A110, everybody was waving at us in the A110, the same thing on the R5 alpine that is why I love old cars, it is like riding underbiked in Champery with Queen Elizabeth.

A few weeks ago I saw a Clio V6 and a R5 turbo chasing each other on the sea to sky it was insane. Sadly I was on the wrong side of the highway but it was so amazing. But owning one is a challenge not many places want to work on those cars and parts are hard to find. I can see that with my Subaru B4, I have to go to really specific places to have the work done.

For the mechanical part it is not that bad but for the body you need the network. I spoke with a lucky guy who has a Venturi 400 GT and the struggle is real if something happens, less than 20 road legal in the world but the car is so gorgeous and less than a ton for 400 hp in the nineties!
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 @Ba1rog: The S2S is a goldmine for neat cars on those warm summer days. I'm gonna assume the owner of the Venturi doesn't smash out S2S laps every weekend, though haha. I'm stoked to see that a bunch of commenters own some really interesting cars! There's another guy on here with a frick'n Lister XJ220 as well. Wild.
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 @peterknightuk: Right now I've got one RHD car and two LHD drive cars, but I'm hoping to add an L300 Delica to the fleet to balance that out Wink
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 @mikelevy: Good choice. Probably get more bikes on that than the mini!
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 Currently have a Tacoma and 4runner but the idea of a Sprinter is slowly growing on me. Its a bigger vehicle that gets way better MPG.
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 but also the "reliability" of a Merc
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 @theDude403: which isn’t that bad if you know what you’re doing and don’t be an idiot with the engine choice.
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 The correct answer is whatever the Outside CEO drives...pretentious Boulder roadie...I wonder...
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 The best vehicle for mountain bikers is like the best mountain bike: it's the one you already have.
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 Haven't listened yet, looking forward to the comments on Tacoma as the most common vehicle in the parking lot, especially gray ones.
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 If it aint a clapped out tacoma, I don't want it.
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 Just replaced the stationwagon with a f150. So nice to Have a dirty and clean half of vehicle not connected. Now I just gotta work on a good way to secure bikes inside the covered bed.
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 How many Yeti's, with perfect teeth, could this thing haul?

earthroamer.com/hd
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 Got a steel Ferrum thank you
  • 2 0
 Earthroamer sounds like a non-infringing Landcruiser in a video game.
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 "The price of an EarthRoamer HD is $1,900,000 plus options."

O.O I had to check and see if this website was satire ... seems legit.
  • 2 0
 I'm in the market for a bike rack. What is this let'erbuck bike rack you guys were talking about?
  • 2 0
 Kelend Hawks makes them here in Bellingham: www.instagram.com/hawkscustomfab
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 I've found both my Miata and Porsche 911 excellent for carrying bikes and gear and having fun on the way to and from the trailhead.
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 The dream
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 A Macan is pretty damn fun too.
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 I was seriously considering getting a Miata and a hitch. But NA values have skyrocketed.
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 I love my Defender 110, built a small camper setup in the back, gets 25mpg and can go anywhere.
  • 2 0
 Cam Zink and Shawn Palmer win the category of pro rider with the best vehicles… classic Cadillacs.
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 Levy, I am intrigued by your buddy Wayne. Please tell me he looks just like Wayne Campbell? Party on Wayne!!
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 Pretty much he opposite tbh
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 @mikelevy where was @richardcunningham during this episode? Somehow I think he has a few stories that fit this theme...
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 He definitely does, but couldn't make this one. I think he'll be on next week's show.
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 The best shuttle vehicle is a clapped out 90s Toyota pickup with 500,000kms with no actual body and a non existent tailpipe.
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 #S2S
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 Can't blame Kazimer of being inconsistent... Wants 4 piston brakes on XC bikes and apparently needs 4 working brakes on a car...
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 I'm there with the one up rack comments, but overall @mikelevy surely this is a road trip / bike life beast?

bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-ford-falcon-wagon
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 Pinkbike should really make the comments timestamp-able, like on YouTube. It would make it easy for people to make a table of contents for ea episode.
  • 1 0
 At the top of the comment section you can choose to have them displayed by score (lowest at the bottom) or by the time that they were posted, but timestamped comments would also be killer.
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 Are any of you all going to be at Snowshoe next week?
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 @rmbarrows which guys?
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 This podcast is officially just an advertising campaign.
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 For Astro vans?
  • 2 1
 Seems like the team, while entertaining, is finding it hard to fill up an hour each week with a new topic.
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 @mikelevy: Have you seen the used market prices? Wild
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 @mikelevy: you guys definitely missed an opportunity to rake in some mega advertising dollars from the used car lots with clapped out vans, yuh blew it
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 @pcledrew: I have - now that people (especially climbers and skiers) have known about them for so long, the prices have gone uuuuup.
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 @mikelevy: A long over due Astro Van Ad.


Honestly haven't listened yet. Ha! I'll do it now. I will say this... came across a 4x4 Astro Van that was completely armored. Nearly bought it. Talking floor, doors, windows. Full armored van. Still kicking myself for not buying that thing.
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 Ironically I just saw a converted ambulance at the trailhead the other day. Mind Blown.
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 Want to see cool.... look up the converted German Fire Trucks.
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 There are a few of those around the Sea to Sky area as well. Pretty neat.
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 That's what I have. 1995 Powerstroke powered retired ambulance.

It's not the best "mountain bikers vehicle", but suits my wants and needs well.
  • 1 0
 2012 Mazda 3 Skyativ, gets 800-900 km on 50L, Thule carrier on all summer, zero photo radar tickets
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 I've heard the Skyactiv is an economical engine ... 900km on 50L is 5.6L/100KM which is very impressive. I can get 6.5L/100KM consistently on my Civic in mixed city / hwy.
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 @njcbps: I’ve gone over 1000km on long trips without Thule holding me back, that thing is a wind sail
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 @DizzyNinja: My extended family have owned 3 of the First gen Mazda's (2004 to 2009). The 2.3L is a good engine, but the auto trans is not economical. I've heard to avoid 2010/2011 Mazda 3's because of the clutch.
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 @njcbps: those aren’t Skyactiv, completely different drivetrain
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 Alicia was #vanlife before #vanlife was cool. Great stuff Smile
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 #vanlife hit Instagram right around the same time I hit #vanlife, but I do appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt!
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 I haven't even listened to the podcast yet and I already know the answer: Tacoma
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 Tundra with tailgate pad. Holds 5 bike, hold five people and I get the same mileage as all my friends with those fun size Tacoma’s. Hard to go wrong with a full size truck.
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 Proprietaryness sucks balls
  • 1 0
 You guys are going about this wrong! E-bike with a mount for the fork on trail bike on the back rack!
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 Here is my question. Y'all hiring on the tech side? If it helps I worked for Dan at pedal sport for a bit @mikelevy
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 Matt Jones has some pretty exotic cars and Sam Pilgrim has some weird cool little car.
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 I've seen it a few times, hauling your MTB on a motorcycle is a boss move.
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 Or like Hannah Bergemann, on a scooter.
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 When is Wayne going to be on the podcast.
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 "My buddy Wayne" is on almost all the podcasts in spirit, but I'll have to get him on for real down the road. Not for a while, though. He knows all my most embarrassing MTB stories, and there are A LOT.
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 @mikelevy: He seems like a myth or an imaginary friend at this point in time.
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 @als802: The man, the myth, the legend that is "my buddy Wayne."
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 I was going to ask the same thing. He definitely needs some airtime as a guest speaker!
  • 1 0
 I only wanted to hear about Levy's Mini during this podcast. I was losing faith till he mentioned it! Made my day.
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 Here in the UK the ultimate MTB vehicle has to be the VW Transporter 4motion. I lust for one, but sooooo expensive!
  • 2 0
 Name recommendation for the Kazstro - "Delicious Pete"
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 Kaztro is pretty solid, too!
  • 2 0
 Anybody rolling 105-Series Landcruisers?
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 @mikelevy podcast is awesome but you need a outro at the end!!
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 My VW T3 Syncro Doka takes 6 people, their bikes and their stuff, and you dont need the heater when they are all seated…
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 Those are amazing.
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 Tacoma. Thank you.
  • 1 0
 Gonna get my 4x4 econoline back this week; should be good.
  • 1 0
 *FKT, not FKM - no idea what FKM stands for!
  • 1 0
 Cargo eBike to take your DH bike up the hill.
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 Yeah, but then how do you retrieve your cargo eBike once you're back at the bottom?
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 @VtVolk: that one's easy, DH ebike
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 What? No E-car?? I was expecting a Prius or Tesla with the current state of PB.
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 I'd love a Tesla and have looked at them so many times, but I'm not ready yet. I think there are a few Teslas on the PB staff, though. Spaceships.
  • 1 1
 E-cars are still too early in their development to be truly desirable from a utilitarian perspective. When the recharge time gets sorted out I'm in.
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 I have a 200 mile commute to work (one way each week). I used to do it in a Honda Accord and would stop for 5 minutes to fill up with gas each way. Now I do it in a Tesla Model Y and stop for 15 minutes to charge each way. It’s a little longer, but it gives me time to use the restroom and grab a bite to eat, so I show up a little more refreshed. I’ll admit that it does take much longer when it’s below freezing out, though. Up to 40 minutes. But that’s enough time for a good poop, so…

Most of my charging is done at home, and most of my mountain bike rides start within 30 miles of home. I wouldn’t need charging infrastructure for most of my rides, but we have two nearby trailheads with electric car chargers (that I don’t use—I always have plenty of range because I filled up in my driveway, so the PHEVs can use them instead).

I keep a bike inside the car most of the time, and it’s not much more difficult to do that than it was in my partner’s Subaru Forester. There’s a lot of space inside. For the local rides I put the bike on the hitch mounted rack. Really any hatchback with a hitch is pretty utilitarian, but even more so if you can just fuel it at home.
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 If anyone remembers the GMC Jimmy, it was that! 1991
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 I'm guessing a crank broke (maybe a pedal axle).
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 Tacoma or my sprinter van
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 Levy....try "proprietarity"
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 My vote is for the Bad Asstro van!
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 pinkgauer
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 Sick Ram Rebel! I just ordered one yesterday!
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 MF Vanagon
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 Is Kaz in Canada atm?
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 Unimog or nothing.
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 Doesn’t get much more outside TM than a podcast about vanlife
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