Trek's Remedy platform has gone through a handful of iterations since it was introduced back in 2008, but it's always been their ready-for-anything all-mountain machine with enough travel to get you out of trouble but not enough to keep you from wanting to pedal it up the side of a mountain. For 2019, Trek is introducing an entirely new Remedy frame that, while looking a lot like its predecessor, sports some noteworthy changes, especially in the geometry and suspension departments.
First things first: rear wheel travel is still 150mm, there's 160mm on tap up front, and it's rolling on 27.5'' wheels with high-volume 2.6'' wide rubber straight from Trek. There's enough room for a 2.8'' wide tire out back, too, but if 29ers are your thing, you'll have to look at the Slash as they're not going to go on the Remedy.
2019 RemedyIntended use: all-mountain / enduro
Travel: 150mm
Fork travel: 160mm
Wheel size: 27.5''
Frame construction: carbon fiber or aluminum
Head angle: 65.5 or 66-degrees
Reach: 455 - 461 (19.5'')
Sizes: 15.5, 17.5, 18.5, 19.5, and 21.5''
Weight: 28lb 15oz (9.9 model, as pictured w/o pedals)
MSRP: $3,299 USD - $6,999 USD
More info:
www.trekbikes.com There are five Remedy models to pick from, with the top-tier 9.9 model shown here going for $6,999 USD. The other two carbon models, the 9.8 and 9.7, cost $5,499 and $3,999. If aluminum is in your future, you can choose between the $3,799 Remedy 8 or the Remedy 7 for $3,299 USD.
Trek has long used their Active Braking Pivot, four-bar layout, and it's what you'll find employed on all of their high-end full-suspension bikes from the Session downhill sled to their Top Fuel cross-country racer. It's also what you'll find on the back of the 2019 Remedy but with a twist. Gone is the Full Floater design that saw the shock's lower mount sit on an extension of the chainstays rather than the front triangle.
Instead, Trek has gone back to a more traditional solid lower mount for the 2019 Remedy after many years of extolling the virtues of the Full Floater setup.
So, what gives with ditching the Full Floater? Shock technology, apparently, which has gotten much better over the years, especially when it comes to air springs. ''More responsive dampers, along with more refined air springs like DebonAir, offer the tuning ability and performance benefits our engineers originally sought to achieve with Full Floater,'' Trek said of their move away from the floating shock layout.
Their reasoning comes down to rigidity: ''The fixed mount opens up the lower frame area, giving us more opportunity to design a stronger, stiffer frame and chainstays. This also gives us more flexibility to accommodate larger, more capable shocks. All of these effects are experienced most dramatically on long travel bikes, like Remedy and Slash.'' Does it make a difference? I've got a 2019 Remedy 9.9 in my stable right now, and have years of experience on previous iterations of the bike, so I'll be able to find out soon.
Trek is also employing
the RE:aktiv valve, as well as a thru-shaft shock design that ditches the internal floating piston to lower friction. I won't add extra words about either, but
Mike Kazimer covered the thru-shaft design, albeit on a Fox shock, awhile back. Check that out to learn more.
A bike can't be new if it's not stiffer and lighter, so the new Remedy is stiffer and lighter, of course. Trek isn't making any wild claims, however, with a 5-percent gain in rigidity and 100-grams shaved from the frame compared to the 2017 version. Small beans, really, but all the beans add up over time, and let's not forget that the beans have been adding up since 2008 when the Remedy was first introduced as a 150mm, 26'' wheeled, alloy-framed all-mountain bike. I smell an article idea: 2008 Remedy versus the 2019 Remedy - What do the beans do?
With the wheel size and travel staying the same for 2019, The biggest change has to be geometry, and Trek had revised it yet again to keep the Remedy in-line with what we expect from a 150mm-travel bike. In 2017, the Remedy was rocking a 66-degree front end (in the slackest setting) and it had a reach of 447mm to 458mm for the 19.5'' frame. The new Remedy goes even slacker, with a 65.5-degree head angle, a 1-degree steeper seat angle, and the reach stays basically the same.
Riders can also tinker with the geo by flipping the Mino Link pivot hardware around (they hold the rocker arm to the seatstays) to steepen the bike by 0.5-degree and lift the bottom bracket from 349mm to 356mm.
Other things... You can go as big as a 36-tooth 'ring, and as small as a 180mm rotor out back via a post mount. There are a few threaded holes on the underside of the top tube that are designed to work with Wolf Tooth's B-Rad tool kit system, too, so you won't need to stuff your pockets or wear a backpack if you're not into that.
There is something else to note as well, with Trek not doing any women-specific models of the Remedy. I'll give the floor to them on that one: ''Market research and rider feedback has indicated that aggressive female riders want the same geometry and performance as the main line. We’ve also found that, while many female riders love our “women’s” colorways, just as many prefer the main line paint colors. Rather than offering separate “women’s” colorways, we’re giving ALL riders more selection by offering every model in two colors to suit a variety of tastes, regardless of gender. We’ve also improved the fit of the smallest 15.5” size so it works for more riders.''
Trek have been using reaktiv with thru shaft for a couple of years now. Some people like it, others don't. I like mine
@bman33:
You obviously haven't yet experienced their dropper post
www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/remedy/remedy-9-7/p/24505
www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/story/treks_carbon_story
Then, amazing marketing bollocks like their straight downtube story, then 29+ WTF, Penskey shmenskey dampers, trunnion metric bollocks. Pressfit for such simple frame design, hello?
But I have a few reasons to love Trek - their store and service in Gothenburg is awesome, Bontrager tyres are as good as Maxxis and 30% cheaper, their Down Country line is best in business, then Emily Batty... it evens out a bit.
Cuz they goin’ want their money rain sleet hail snow!”
The buying experience definitely makes a big difference. I work for a big store that sells Trek amongst other large brands, I like to think we're a friendly bunch, which helps. There's definitely a reason why most of the bikes that leave our store are Trek though... A lot of our customers come to us having had poor experiences at other stores, and depending what the customer values, it almost doesn't matter what the bike is, it's how you sell it. Treks are easy to sell because they look great, ride great and are great value.
5300$ for carbon with NX (!) and a whole bunch of Bontrager parts is garbage. Generic dropper, low lever brakes. What a joke.
The 4200$ has low end suspension, doesnt even come set up tubeless and somehow has even more low end bontrager stuff on it.
And they wonder why people buy Commencal’s.
Ebikes aren’t going to save you Trek. People aren’t going to get in to the sport at these prices. And on the top end... if you think I’m laying 11 grand for a Session 29 you are on crack.
The next economic crash is going to annihilate the bike industry.
On a different note: this still has PRESS FIT.
The $5500 model has a Lyrik RCT3, carbon rims, full GX, Guide RS and Bontrager cockpit. Not a great value, but not the worst I've seen.
SC Bronson $5200 has Performance/super delux, alu rims, full GX, Code R, mixed cockpit.
Giant is even worse. $5000 you get full Performance, Guide T (whatever that is), alu rims and FULL OEM GIANT cockpit. Ugh.
Looking on some other sites. The standard for the $5k price range is Performance suspension, GX, bottom-tier brakes, alu rims. No carbon other than frame. Sad.
My next bike will be a Commencal or YT, without doubt. People should stop paying these prices.
Or pick up a GG Smash or Knolly Fugitive LT frame (or Shredd Dogg / Endorphin) for a little over $2k and go build your own damn bike around it for well under $5k that's hand selected by you and supporting a smaller company that has a clue.
Once we reach the tipping point the big brands are going to have to rethink things. The smaller guys are making bikes that're as good and with a better consumer experience. And like you said there's the whole direct route also.
Updated Remedy? Meh.
That said, I think if new bike money pours into my bank account this year, I think I am still heavily leaning towards a US made Guerrilla Gravity bike. I think they offer quite a bit of value and they have good reviews from Pinkbike and other users who own them.
So you say all this but the bikes are selling... Why would they change if its working?
What giant model are you looking at?
New reigns have aluminum rims with DVO in the SX model or carbon in the advanced models. Trance is all carbon starting at around 4k. Giant has some of the cheapest bike builds with carbon rims around and they deal with crash replacement issues very well. You’re also talking about the biggest bike manufacturer in the world that controls the means of production for a ton of other brands, so I wouldn’t “ugh” at OEM level cockpits.
Every Commencal I’ve seen has had issues. Last one had brake lines too short from the factory and they ripped out in a crash and the guy was without the bike for a month dealing with them. I’m not saying they’re all like this, but bikes you get from a shop is buying peace of mind through (usually free) service and an extra level of quality control before the bike hits you. Tons of serious riders lack the ability to reliably work on their bikes and will happily admit that. Whether they want to pay more money up front or save $$ to begin with and pay more for service down the road is up to them.
www.giant-bicycles.com/us/trance-advanced-2-2019
OEM hubs on cheaper models that have decent (pawl) internals if slow engagement. DT Swiss internals (star) on the higher end stuff. Admittedly the freehub bodies are a bit soft on their road lineup but that’s a different story. Tubeless setup is easy, just dump and go. Plus they use the lightest tubeless tape around which is worth getting your hands on aftermarket.
Giant knows what they’re doing when they spec and produce a bike. Their wheels have held up better than DT Swiss XM splines/Easton carbon/i9 for XC racing under the same rider, and better than easton and stand for CX under the same rider. I run giant wheels on my BMC road bike since they’re so damn cheap
Stupid boy friends then
For instance, around here I can walk into two bike shops, a few hundred yards from each other. In one shop they've never had a problem with Shimano brakes, and it's all they sell. Down the street though, it's like Sram Guide/Level/Code city, they can't even keep spare hoses or pads in stock.
It's just weird, man.
We all now SRAM is notorious for having production issues. But they are also the very best in takin care of the end user. They’ve sent more guide brakes out with no question than I can imagine is profitable. They did the same with the affected thru shaft shocks.
As far as feel for most riders looking for traction they’re amazing. If you want to pop and roll through the park the X2 or even DPX2 is a better option.
I'm keeping the original shock for when the X2 needs service as it is not a bad shock by all means
"Hey, man. You want to buy some 29er? I'll give you a good deal. Just a little taste..."
As if all girls like "girly" colorways. Much easier for girls to sell their used bikes when they're gender neutral.
-I'll get my coat...
"BB is too high"
"Full Floater = Full Poser"
"Unrideable"
So quick and easy to judge from a few photos and words...your all a bunch of f*ck heads.
even on helmets...a few years ago Giro had some teal helmets in their women's line and TEENAGE BOYS were buying them up faster than the ladies, who usually got a nice matte black. they just peeled the "women's" sticker off.
so yeah basically just give people options and stop assuming who wants what based on their nether regions.
Mountain biking seems to be the only tech-driven sport in which tech advances, over time, don’t result in lower prices for consumers. Absolutely ridiculous.
I’m in the market for 2-4 Bikes in the next 12 months. Bike companies can either fix their damn pricing or I’ll just send Canyon all my money.
indeed. the new stumpy looks like a good step forward even if the geo is still very much trail-oriented. will demo one soon... and that evo is intriguing even if the bb is insanely low.
who knows.... on a bike like this meant as more of a do-it-all I'd think most riders would be better off with the DPX2..... but if you're gonna ride it like a slash on the other hand...
resulting in knockblock headsets why not ditch full floater on everything too? I’d like to test ride this new remedy though and would like to see how it compares to the slash.
Lastly, knockblock works great. It invisible until you have a major off. If you're navigating switchbacks that are *that* tight, it sounds like your trails are sh*t and you should take up hiking. haha
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geometrygeeks.bike/bike/trek-remedy-carbon-2019
umm, I like the paint!
$2950
Ruaridh was deffinitly not at the early parts of the season, havent seen him on anything but the standard Super Deluxe... Bu. Maune they go back n forth but a lot of photos suggest otherwise.
m.pinkbike.com/photo/16137945
I don t understand why they dont make it anymore. The slash is not designed for climbing, the seatube angle is too slack (I ride size xl)
there's plenty I don't love about the company, but proper warranties submitted thru shops were a breeze, approved quickly and sent out fast. Maybe they aren't as responsive in Canada?
I've seen them warranty 10 year old frames with new crabon frames. sure, customer had to buy some new parts but the parts on their old frame were blown out anyway.
so if you had a shit experience maybe back up your claim, right now you just sound like a hater.
no problem except that you had to have a carbon frame and rim replaced....