Unno's Slack XC Bike Might be the Future of XC

Jan 3, 2019 at 10:38
by Mike Levy  
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How light do you want your bike to be? If you're the type who frequents cross-country races, your answer might be ''As light as possible.'' Unfortunately, that usually comes with geometry that feels like it's trying to end your life the second things get a little wild. No, I'll take a pass on the 17lb featherweight, its 90-degree head angle, and all the scabs that I'd end up with, thank you very much.

Unno, that Spanish brand who brought us the ultra-chic Dash trail bike (full review on the 7th, finally, by the way), might have the answer in their Aora hardtail frame that weighs just 685-grams in raw form and sports a very un-cross-country-like 67-degree head angle. That sounds fun, doesn't it?

Sure, it's 790-grams once you put on the axle and derailleur hanger that I guess you need, but whatever. That's still a very, very low number, one that Unno says makes the Aora "the lightest production XC hardtail on the market today.'' For the record, Scott's Scale frame, which is often many riders' go-to starting point for their fly-weight, weighs a hardly acceptable 59-grams heavier. What a porker!

Unno Aora

• Intended use: cross-country racing
• Wheel size: 29''
• Head angle: 67-degrees
• Rider weight limit: 198lb
• Weight: 790-grams
• Availability: Jan 2019
• Frame MSRP: 4,000€
www.unno.com

Unno Aora
Most of the ingredients needed to make an Aora frame.


The Aora's low weight is partly a result of how the frame is manufactured at their Barcelona HQ, with the folks at Unno creating the entire frame in a single mold rather than building it in halves and then gluing the pieces together.

The company has also touted using some pretty high-end carbon, too, which further helps to lower the weight - and raise the price.


Unno Aora
Unno builds the Aora in their own factory in Spain, and they even machined their old molds.


While the 790-gram number is certainly worth pointing out, it's what Unno has done with another number that's more interesting to me: The Aora's head angle is just 67-degrees, making it one of the most relaxed pure race bikes out there. Yes, that sounds downright pointy compared to what's used on the front of bikes intended to spend more time off the ground or in a bike park, but in the Aora's world, that's slack AF. Some perspective for you: The Scale sports a 69.5 front end, Cannondale went with 69-degrees for their F-Si Hi-Mod frame that weighs a claimed 900-grams, and the Specialized S-Works Epic has a 69.8-degree head angle and weighs a claimed 890-grams.

Relatively speaking, the Aora appears to be both really freaking light and relatively slack. That could be a good combo.

Other details include a proper 31.6mm seat post size rather than the hokey 27.2mm diameter that some companies go with to save 1.2-nanograms. That means you can run a full-length dropper so you can actually enjoy how the bike handles, too.


Unno Aora
Unno Aora
You're not going to have any excuses when it comes to weight if you build one of these up nicely.


You know there has to be a catch or two, though, right? One of the big sticking points for a potential Aora buyer has to be its sizing - it's only available in a M/L-ish size with a 441mm reach that's intended to work with a short stem. Oh, and you can't weigh more than 198lb. And the frame's 4,000€ price tag.

I don't doubt that the Aora is pretty neat, but all those quibbles mean that most of us won't ever see one of these bikes in the carbon. So does this thing even matter? It certainly does if World Cup cross-country bikes end up two degrees slacker and running shorty stems a few years from now.

Do you think cross-country geometry is going to end up going down the same longer, slacker trail as all-mountain and enduro bikes have, or is the Lycra set destined to be sketchy forever?


215 Comments

  • + 197
 How much did it hurt not to use the word d*wncountry in this @mikelevy?
  • + 138
 Don't worry, I'll be making up for it shortly.
  • + 15
 With the trust message review, I hope? @mikelevy:
  • + 12
 Call it Slack country.... And get it over with
  • + 2
 @sdurant12: That too.
  • + 9
 Imagine you bought the frame at 198lbs and break it when you had too much breakfast at 200lbs.
  • + 3
 @chyu: make sure you use the bathroom before the ride
  • + 3
 @Creg: I try not to wait until I hafta crap multiple pounds at a time; that doesn't seem healthy.
  • + 2
 @mikelevy: can we get a downcountry bike comparo?
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: please nooooo. and holy freakin layup
  • + 1
 @scottlink: skiing already has dibs on this term
  • + 43
 If we've learned anything from enduro, head angles are too steep until they've hit 63 degrees. Hard pass.
  • + 9
 There is some interesting stuff regarding that HTA as its pretty close to what the MX world finally settled on.
  • + 3
 @Svinyard: are you Mike Sinyard?
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: I see mixed Wheels in our future
  • + 1
 @stinkbikelies: I have them now, but the frame, fork chassis and broader design / kinematics must be right.
  • + 4
 @Soilsledding: I tried a Frankenstein bike in the mid 90's when 29rs came out. It was actually a blazing fast bike but norba would not let me race it with mixed wheels back in the day. The 29-inch wheel and Fork on an old 26er frame gave it a modern-day head angle and the thing railed . I've always been searching for slack bikes ever since.
  • + 19
 @Svinyard: Funny thing is, MX trails are a lot wider than most bike trails. And MX bikes go a lot faster. And you don't have to pedal them... Maybe we should be looking at MX for ideal chainstay length as well..?
  • + 7
 The BTR Chaser XC bike has a 66deg head angle. Unno needs to step up in order to be competitive.
  • + 52
 Meanwhile Lee McCormack is about to tell us why 65 Might be too slack based on your shoe size
  • + 2
 @Svinyard: MX bikes have far more travel, once sagged they are not running at 63 degrees, plus they need to be slacker to counteract the steepening HA as you go through all of that travel
  • + 1
 @SonofBovril: Same amount of travel as a Karpiel. What kind of super short travel bike are you riding?!
  • + 2
 @SonofBovril: why would the head angle steepen it’s not like they only have front suspension, if anything they get slacker when you sit on them.
  • + 1
 @skelldify: I think we should be looking at mx bikes power source too
  • + 33
 Can somebody finally make a bike with a 90 degree seat angle and a 60 head tube with 20mm fork offset? That way we can prove it we’ve reached a design that sucks and start moving the other direction. Otherwise we’re going to have bikes that make us guinea pigs for all of these upcoming mistakes. Example? Getting high-side from pedal strikes while you dared pedal over a mid turn whoop. Long and low is great for those EWS guys that only climb a fireroad in recovery before their next stage, but enduro means a lot more pedal-through-churn than some of these designs can support.
  • + 5
 Cy at Cotic talks about bb height of Rocketmax, a fairly long bike. He ended up increasing it after a few protos. Pretty sure Rojo has already backed off from Mondraker lengths. Maybe the limits depend on one's Summer proximity to a ski lift. Or height above 195cm.
  • - 2
 @fkrul Funny, I'm on an sb130 now.. I'm not an EWS guy... The bike is long low and slack.. I earn my turns by pedaling up to go down and even smash some xc courses on the thing... It is simply one of the best bikes I've ever ridden! Don't see how this design sucks to be honest... But hey. What the Fuk do these bike engineers know anyway right?
  • + 1
 the pole machine isn't actually that far off the numbers you just mentioned hahaha. Have to wait and see what the review says!
  • + 28
 @too many pink bike users : shut the F up about your 200 dollar ebay china bike... We get it you are cheap Fers...
  • + 27
 Not expensive enough. I demand more exclusivity via higher pricing.
  • + 4
 don't worry, they'll produce 3 frames per year for instagram posts, so you'd never get your hands on one even if you had the money
  • + 1
 and then they offer a complete build and is cheaper than yeti, sc, etc Smile
  • + 20
 27.2 isn't 'hokey' for bikes that aren't going to use a dropper. Smaller diameter makes it easier for seatpost to flex and give some amount of 'comfort'
  • + 35
 They can make a 31.6 carbon post flexy as well, and this way riders at least have the option of installing a good party post Smile
  • + 13
 Except more and more XC racers are using droppers.
  • + 1
 There are quite some dropper seatposts available for the (once) popular 27.2mm diameter, right? My old DMR had a 26.8mm seatpost. They labeled it as XC and indeed it wouldn't fit a dropper.
  • + 0
 Its an awesome bike, but I sold my last hardtail because I couldnt get a 27.2 stealth dropper for less than I paid for my first car. Not sure why hardtail manu's are still doing this
  • + 6
 @mikelevy: Everybody deserves the right to rock a good party post if they feel so inclined.
  • + 3
 @kookseverywhere: When Stanton increased their seattube diameter in order to fit larger diameter (dropper) seatposts, one complaint became that the bike got less lively than it was before. They solved that later on but apparently it isn't that easy. So that could be the reason hardtails sometimes still get the smaller diameter seattubes.

www.pinkbike.com/news/stanton-switchback-review-2015.html

(Ed Haythorntwaite is a UK bike builder, has been tech editor at Dirt Magazine UK and currently works for Robotbike.co. He knows stuff.)
  • + 5
 @vinay: interesting, that's a steel frame and I wonder if the difference would be as noticeable on a carbon frame.

Either way my bike feels a lot more lively when I can drop the seat on the downs vs when I can not. If I was an orthodontic professional I'd buy this unno.
  • + 0
 @kookseverywhere: Yeah, I 100% agree that a low seat makes the bike lively. Actually, that's my reference. A high saddle kills the fun. That said, my own saddle is low just fine even without a dropper seatpost Wink .

My comment was a very generic response to the question of why hardtail manufacturers keep their seattube diameters small. Not concerning carbon frames in particular. In fact, I think there is a lot to the lay-up of the material that probably inluences the ride quality. So yeah, Unno could probably get the desired ride quality even with a larger diameter seat tube. Why they didn't? I've had a good chat with Cesar Rojo here in the comment section one day so maybe he'll drop by again and clear things up Smile .
  • + 1
 @vinay: This bike does have a 31.6, but for some reason that's not the norm with carbon hardtails
  • + 1
 @kookseverywhere: TranzX
JD-YSP36 would be your best option.
Stealth, 123€,110mm drop only.
  • + 1
 Pnw components makes a great one
  • - 1
 @kookseverywhere: Orthodontic professional here. Hell no, I ain’t buying this.
  • + 1
 @nozes: Got a TtanzX 105mm dropper in my 27.2mm seat tube XC bike and it is a great improvement. It still beats me up going downhill but at least I don't get so hocked up on the seat. The 70+ deg HTA sucks.

Skittish is the word.
  • + 1
 I had a 26" Slackline with a 31.6 seat tube and it was s-t-i-f-f, like 'ow, my kidneys' stiff. Fun though. My Switchback (30.9) is loads nicer.
  • + 23
 thats gonna break.
  • + 16
 everything eventually breaks...expect my 4130Crmo 8lbs .243 Racing hardtail frame
  • + 7
 Does it blend?
  • + 0
 @eswebster: don't breath this
  • + 2
 @Grmasterd: ooh, I had one of those! It was awesome, especially with the JuniorT up front
  • + 1
 @andwrong: I still have and ride my mostly for taking the dog out but I have been toying with the idea of throwing my old boxxer on it and having an oldschool park bike
  • + 3
 @Grmasterd: This frame is lighter than the majority of the absolute lightest road climbing frames on the market. This isn't just light, this is "I want a scale shot of a bike that doesn't need to be realistically ridable" light.
  • + 1
 @sherbet: I actually really like this frame - it's stuff like this that really pushes the envelope
  • + 19
 XC geometry should go towards whatever is fastest on CC race courses. Horses for courses, not vice versa.
  • + 14
 I agree which is why I find it weird they still basically have road bike geo...
  • + 1
 *XC
  • + 3
 Totally. Low top tubes, droppers and slack HA would make more sense and be faster down the down bits and not too much heavier for the up bits.
  • + 9
 I’ve had dumps over 685g. Mind blown.
  • + 3
 $6150can.Fudge off.
But hey, reality is, people are trading their life for money...gotta spend the money on something I guess...and as long as they're spending, might aswell make stuff to sell'em.
I think I just figured out the answer to life! Nice.
PS: Slick looking bike, would pedal Smile
  • - 12
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 3, 2019 at 11:00) (Below Threshold)
 I've got a hard tail and fork off eBay for 320 shipped. Bike weighs 17 lbs with a total of just 1300 total build up..who wants or needs this? The Walmart family?
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: Is it a knockoff Chinese one? How is it? I've been interested in this for mountain and or road but am always leery.
  • + 0
 @BrigadierBuege: love it you never realize how much stress relief it is not caring if your bike gets scraped or cracked. It's seen 2 foot drops and a lot of riding still doing great no cracks. I painted it with truck bed spray paint it looks sweet too. I think knockoff is the wrong word just none branded its not like the mold was stolen or copied from someone else.
  • + 10
 @Gregorysmithj1: Hopefully you don't die on your sketchy Chinacarb frameset...A guy I know took his Ebay fork off a 3 foot drop and received a 5-figure dental bill for his troubles when the steerer separated from the crown.
  • + 15
 Allz I'm sayin' is....spend 10 large on a hardtail(that was $6000 for frame only btw, and whoever would do that won't be spending less than 4 on parts for it)...or spend 3 total and take a whole month off.
Live more, Slave less.
  • - 5
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 3, 2019 at 12:05) (Below Threshold)
 @mnorris122: Ya'll are brainwashed by big S... I know a prorider that got paralyzed too! Do your homework dont buy the cheapest one possible..research it buy from a reputable Chinese dealer. there is plenty of good middlemen like flyxii.
  • + 11
 @Gregorysmithj1: Truck bed paint sounds thick and tough, cracks could easily be hiding under there.
  • - 7
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 3, 2019 at 12:31) (Below Threshold)
 @Jnicholz: wow specialized really has brainwashed you into think anything without a logo is unsafe. Oh please id trust the Chinese middlemen more to get product that doesn't break there margins are tiny they can't afford to do PayPal refunds.
  • + 9
 @Gregorysmithj1: Coating a frame with anything that will conceal cracks is a separate issue from how much the frame cost.
  • - 5
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 3, 2019 at 12:36) (Below Threshold)
 @loopie: yeah painting a bike is a huge deal. No good brand ever paints bikes.
  • + 6
 @Gregorysmithj1: Nothing wrong with paint....but you didn't put paint on your frame Smile
  • + 6
 @Gregorysmithj1: you probably added 100 grams to your frame
truck bed paint is heavy
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: No thanks.. I like my stupidly expensive steeds.!
  • + 1
 @loopie: Or have a really good kick arse job and have both! ????
  • + 1
 @bohns1: Oh, I know...just bustin' chops.
  • + 1
 I like your Wobbly style
  • + 4
 It is about time XC geometry evolved. 67º is a good starting point now add a steep seat angle and longer chainstays and that bike will climb everything!
  • + 10
 Don't be ridiculous. 64.5 HA, negative seat angle, 500 stays and 550 reach. Cesar Rojo knows nothing, he's a industry shill. He only designed 20x more bikes than Leo Kokkonen and 50x more bikes than Chris Porter.
  • + 1
 @szfetbb: Never said Mr. Rojo doesn't know what he is talking about. In fact he has stated for the record his Unno bikes are designed with all around geometry, In this article they talk about the future of XC RACING so a race bike is meant to be built to win and winning means efficiency and speed! Longer chainstays provide added traction and steeper seat angle makes it easier to climb whilst seated. Designing more bikes does not make you better and if you have ever read/heard about Chris Porter's ideas on bike you would be dissing him.
  • + 1
 @SintraFreeride I personally asked Cesar Rojo about stay length on this bike in comment thread on their FB page, and he said it’s about rear tyre grip and that they tested several geometries. But yeah what does he know, he designs “all round” bikes. Pole designs the best bikes.
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: I am just quoting his words from a podcast which was available on pinkbike where he said long bikes weren't fun and playful for most riders which was why he designed his Unno bikes with that geo. I never said he doesn't know what he is on about.
You need to deal with your issue with Leo and Pole bicycles.
I do have a Pole but because I chose to buy one and then found out from riding it that it worked really well. I don't follow trends or drink the bike cool aid. I was riding short stems (less than 30mm) and wide rims (+35mm) before it was trendy.
  • + 4
 Why does pinkbike keeps mixing imperial units with metric units? Frame weight in grams and bycicle weight in pounds...
  • + 2
 If Unno could make me a light, stiff, tapered or straight 1.5”, iscg tab hardtail or short travel softy that’d be great... I’d be happy to be given a free test model too!
Cheers
  • + 1
 4x style is what I should have said
  • + 2
 Skimming through the comments; was curious to see what would be said about an XC frame and was not disappointed. It’s like giving a 2 year old a loaded gun and expecting it to end well.
  • + 1
 For something this light it better be really really well damped and really compliant. Light and stiff can't make for a very nice or tolerant ride. Sure if you're a XC pro this might work, but if you're crashing due to a super jittery and nervous ride, that doesn't help either. As before, this thing should cost 10k minimum otherwise it's not that crazy.
  • + 0
 Clearly this bike is meant for “high posters” who spend all their time trying to rocket up hills. The slacker HA is just to help them get down in one piece. That thing looks really spindly and I wouldn’t want to hit a serious drop on it, even though I’m well within its weight limit. It’s not to be trusted. Snap crackle pop.
  • + 3
 I love the idea of a 67* hta xc hardtail. I'd be tempted to get an xc bike if I could find some numbers like that.
  • + 2
 How about the Honzo which has a 68 HA w a 120mm fork and up-fork it to 140mm? Boom, 67 deg HA carbon hardtail for less than half the money.
  • + 2
 xc racing has some crimes against bike setup, somehow I dont think the mens field will be going to short stems and slack h/a any time soon
  • + 0
 Whats with the terrible finish at the top of the seat tube? Looks like someone hacked it off (at a bit of a dodgy angle and everything) with a blunt hacksaw!?

Doesn't fill me with confidence about the manufacturing quality of a frame that weighs less than most road frames....
  • + 0
 Like, I don't mean to gripe, it looks cool and all, I just feel like when something has a 70billion euro price tag, they ought to make it perfect. This looks a bit slapdash...
  • + 2
 @gabriel-mission9: That shot was taken with the frame coming straight out of the mold. So what you're seeing is basically a bit of resin overflow that will be carefully sanded off. It's completely normal, and a step that has to be taken with almost all carbon products.
  • + 1
 @bicyclerider: Ah ok, makes sense. I'd suggest in future that they do little jobs like that before taking photos. When you are trying to sell an almost unattainably high end, super niche, low volume product like this, everything needs to be perfect, even the marketing.
I had my fingers burned too many times by companies selling the same old chinese crap as everyone else, but with a fancy logo and price tag to disguise its bargain basement history, to be anything other than a totally cynical bastard at this point.

A product that high end needs to be perfect. Imperfections at any level will drive away customers in hordes....
  • + 1
 I.e. If they are willing to let imperfections like the one in the photo make it to press, what other imperfections are they going to allow through the net?
  • + 2
 The 2019 BMC fourststroke already set the precedent with 67.5 head angle and more reach. This hardtail looks cool, but credit where credit is due.
  • + 1
 How is it that such a super niche unattainable boutique frame could garner such polarizing commentary? Literally 6-12 people worldwide will be riding this frame and it will probably be perfect 3 to 9 of them.
  • + 0
 Cool bike but the slacker it is the slower it is. Proven science. If a course needed something where there is time to be significantly made on the downs this could be a good bike within an arsenal. However if you're competitive xc racer. Slack Ha and short stem is gonna make you slower on climbs which is most important part of xc racing. Looks like a super fun and expensive trail bike tho. As long as it doesnt break. All bikes have pros n cons. Technology and marketing have tried to blur the lines but there are still give n takes and no single one best setup or geo.
  • + 0
 I really like the look of all Unno stuff (& the sister brand gemini bar/stems), but for 4000euros it really needs to have longer than 5year warranty

@stinkbikelies. no yeti doesnt make a hardtail, purely as theres so little demand
  • + 3
 And then on the other hand, vitus are making a xc bike with 67 ha for around 500£ :‘D
  • + 1
 @Stokedonthis Ya, but it's Vitus!
  • + 3
 Deserve a hat tip for producing as a one piece monocoque. Though it's nothing new it is quality.
  • + 4
 Or just wait for the new Canfield EPO and shred!
  • + 2
 I definitely need a new EPO to keep my N9 company!
  • + 3
 XC in 2018: Maybe droppers are a good idea.
XC in 2019: Maybe slack HTAs are a good idea.
XC in 2020: ?
  • + 9
 Dual crown, cause I gotta get rid of all that flex!
  • + 16
 "maybe we should all start wearing fanny packs and taping bananas to our frames."
  • + 1
 @brianpark: fanny packs, taping banas to frames, party seat posts. I’m not sure about this 2019. I may just take a nap until 2020
  • + 1
 Custom built my XC Ti bike with very much the same geometry ideas... Slack, low stack, longer reach. Love it, climbs awesome but still lets you ride it hard!
  • + 2
 you thought the 36 flex on the field test was bad, just imagine 32 flex on a 67deg frame!
  • + 3
 Steeper, shorter, less huck to flat, should be fine
  • + 2
 Pretty sure Jimmy beat Unno to it with Mandy... c 2015... m.pinkbike.com/photo/16727326
  • + 2
 It's maybe gone to the extreme...I like the idea though. Something light and snappy with room for some 29X2.4 Ardents.
  • + 9
 I'm sure it's going to be snappy in other ways with a 200lb rider weight limit...
  • + 3
 Ouch! €4k for the frame only.
  • + 1
 C'mon 17lb bike with 700g frame? 500 mm reach and 16' CS?2 inch fork with 100 mm axel? Is it so hard to keep one system per article?

Frame itself looks nice
  • + 2
 Any bike with a rider weight limit under 200 is a big red flag. curbs? skip em
  • - 1
 I got down voted so much for suggesting xc bikes has outdated geometry in a previous article, but I reckon this is just the beginning as athletes request their Epic geometry is a little more relaxed closer to their Stumpjumper geometry...I’ve gone from an Epic 29 to a Stumpjumper 29 to a Nomad on 27.5 and I find the climbing easier on the Nomad than the Epic ever was, although it might be slower on the smaller wheels.
  • + 2
 Now where can I get a low-offset XC fork for this schralper
  • + 1
 lol yeah I was wondering the same thing. Someone at Unno HAS to be figuring out a way to "Lunch Ride" this thing lol.
  • + 2
 What order those pieces go
Together in?
  • - 2
 All XC bikes should have more relaxed head angles. When you're literally drooling on your top tube because you're pushing as hard as you can for a couple of hours, a forgiving bike beats something twitch almost anytime.

A good rider miiiiiiiight eke out a faster segment here or there on something steeper, but an error-free XC race (compared to a dab or 3) will totally offset any advantage a twitchy bike has over the course of a 2 hour race.

Then again, full suspension is also faster in those situations-the added weight is totally offset by the improved traction and control (and reduced effective rolling resistance).

So......what's the point of this bike? That it's possible? It was obsolete as the fastest XC whip out there before it was even a gleam in the Unno guy's eyes. I suppose it could be a cool gravel bike with some drop bars.......
  • + 3
 Needs an Ocho
  • + 1
 Its about time someone made an XC bike with slack headtube and a longer reach.
  • + 1
 Nicolai has had the Saturn 11 out for awhile... I know it's FS but it' got a long and slack geo
  • + 1
 I'd like to throw a leg over a bike this. Preferably I'd build this out of Ti but it could be a really fun bike.
  • + 1
 and why placing such heavy fork, when there are so many lighter things out there?
  • + 1
 Would't it be more sensible to have 2 versions? one WW and other heavier (1kg?) model without the weight limit
  • + 1
 Beautiful bike. Whatever the dimensions are.
  • + 1
 This one size fits all shit again, yea bright idea... Ingenius!!!
  • + 1
 For me nothing beats the simplicity of a pure xc hardtail
  • + 1
 Qui tingues diners per comprar aquesta joia , ||*||
  • + 2
 Looks like plastic.
  • + 5
 it is made from plastic,like any other CF bike
  • + 1
 198# weight limit of how big of a curb.
  • + 1
 Omg...I got to get me a pair of skinny jeans. Then I will buy a Unno.
  • + 1
 Hot take: Unno is Overrated.
  • + 1
 I would if I had the money
  • + 1
 Nobody expects the Spanish Aora to last a season of racing!
  • + 1
 Fetch the comfy chair!
  • + 0
 Again Trek r&d be brave look at unno think outside the conservative box
  • + 1
 Why? Trek is shit!
  • + 2
 No water bottle mounts?
  • + 0
 Still looks uncomfortable af to ride like most XC bikes. No thanks, not for me.
  • + 25
 Correct, not for you.
  • - 1
 @ryan83: not for you either.
  • + 1
 @ryan83: correct, not for me.
  • + 1
 @Axxe: Definitely not for me.
  • + 1
 @ryan83: and not for me either.
  • + 1
 My xc bikes are comfy.
  • + 1
 Will be.
  • + 0
 XC is dead, the future is SHORT TRACK!
  • + 1
 looks beefy :-)
  • + 0
 I don't know about slacker, but certainly longer chainstays
  • - 1
 200lb limit? Is this for children?
  • + 39
 Really fit children with 450-watt hour-long averages.
  • + 36
 lol how many serious xc riders weigh over 200lbs? Anyone I picture on this thing is like 140lbs soaking wet haha.
  • - 3
 @mikelevy: Still doubt it'll be as bulletproof as, say, a Giant. It's light, it's stiff, the geometry is awesome....but this ain't no daily beater. A year or 2 under somebody who can actually put out 450 sustained watts (EPO anyone?!) will result in frame failure.

I have foreseen it.
  • + 39
 If you're 200lbs or over, you ain't racing XC competitively.
  • + 20
 The target group is loaded triathletes wanking out their ketons and vegetable protein bars. 2k power meters, 1k heart monitors, Audi Q7 S-Line and looks of a malnutritioned swimmer.
  • + 8
 @Trouterspace: if you are racing XC competitively you are riding your team sponsor bike.
  • + 1
 Jenny Craig
  • + 8
 Apparently it's not made for the United States of Obesica.
  • + 2
 @colincolin: 140# 6' in all my gear with a hydration pack. USA
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 @stinkbikelies: ...Gabe from "The Office"?
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 @stinkbikelies: Get a sammich.
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 @colincolin: go to a race in the US and tell me how many obese people you see on bikes
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 @Axxe: Maybe two sammiches.
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 @colincolin: please give me your email address so I can send you thousands of pictures of fat Germans. This should help cure your misconceptions. Thanks!
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 if you're over 200lbs and worrying about the weight of your bike youre doing it wrong
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 @Axxe: how about three sandwiches and I'll still keep my perfect figure
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 @stinkbikelies: here is your problem. You eat sandwiches. You need a Sammich.
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 @tim-roo: yeah I wasn't being serious. we're not better by any means but the rise in North American fast food joints in Europe didn't help either.
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 It's about time they make the bikes for people that actually race so the bikes can be properly designed. When you have to make a bike stiff enough so that it won't feel like a noodle for some 250lb guy who just has to have the lightest frame and will bitch about it online if it's not stiff enough, then it means it will ride like a stiff board for the 160lb guy that's actually racing on it. All this no-weight limit, on what are supposed to be ultra-light race bikes has made them ride like shit. I fully welcome weight limits, so bikes can be properly designed for their target audience. Especially when it comes to ride tuning for hardtails. They could always have a Clydesdale model that's tuned stiffer for a higher weight limit.
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 @colincolin: no worries, I agree with you there.
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 @mikelevy: yep, do your ftp tests children.. It pays dividends!
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 Meh.
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 Is it shod with 27.5+?
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 Insert drooling dentists here
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 Not a dentist, nor does this type of bike really appeal to me, but still drooling, pretty neat.
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 Rumors said that Annika ordered one
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 Did Uno sell out to Yeti?
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 @stinkbikelies: Does Yeti even make a HT anymore?
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 I don't want dentists to drool. Not while working above my open mouth.
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 @ReformedRoadie: thus the buyout. Doesn't seem like companies ever make anything anymore they just buy out another company and put their label on it. Maybe add a millimeter or remove a millimeter from someone else's product and call it their own.
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 @vinay: we wear masks.
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 @bohns1: Yeah I know. But this is no S-Works. This is Unno. What if it sloshes over the top edge of the mask? Or it gets so heavily soaked that the elastic bands stretch excessively? Please, just don't talk about this bike, ok?
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 @vinay: Like I said.. This bike isn't for me.. I went with the sb130.
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