WELCOME TO THE 2021
FALL FIELD TEST
12 Trail and Downcountry Bikes Ridden and Rated
Words by Mike Levy, photography by Tom Richards
While the numbers show that a new enduro or downhill bike garners the most interest, and especially so if it happens to be still a prototype or has a gearbox bolted to it, the truth is that the majority of us spend our time on bikes with much less suspension. Don't worry, it's still too soon to put you (or us) through another cross-country spandex series, but it is time to have twelve of the latest trail and downcountry bikes face off against each other in the fall Field Test.
We like to see some disparity in our fleet, and it's no different this time around. Rear-wheel-travel starts at just 110mm for the downcountry bikes and goes up to 150mm for the trail rigs, geometry is nearly as wide-ranging, and weights begin at 23lbs and balloon out to 36lb with more coils and less carbon. Speaking of that, there's plenty of fancy stuff, of course, but aluminum and even steel bikes are also included, as are brands from Germany, America, Canada, Switzerland, and the UK.
Depending on what you're looking for, today's trail bikes can blur the lines at both ends of the performance spectrum. If your main focus is pushing hard on the pedals and gaining elevation, but you want more surefootedness than a cross-country bike can provide, there's a trail bike for you. And if your rides always include steeps, jumps, and knee pads, or even the odd guilt-free shuttle run, there's also a trail bike for you.
What about if you're somewhere in the middle? Same here, but with these bikes able to do so many things at such a high level, it's a pretty good place to find yourself.
Well, this is awkward... The whole downcountry thing
was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek name for overburdened cross-country bikes with real tires, and a cockpit and dropper post that's not trying to throw you out the front door every time you want to have a bit of fun. Regardless, it's been co-opted by the industry and media to describe things that we used to call trail bikes which, I have to admit, is a bit confusing.
Silly names aside, here we are with six short-travel bikes that could be used for everything from some not-so-serious cross-country racing to riding some surprisingly serious terrain. Even more impressive, some of the contenders are capable of doing both with little to no alterations. It's a good time to like downcoun... er, short-travel bikes, isn't it?
How Do We Choose the Bikes?
I'll be honest with you: We pretty much got what we could get. If you've been sniffing around for a new bike lately, or even just the parts for one, you already know they've been hard to come by. Even so, I'd argue that we managed to include some interesting rigs this time around, which always makes testing and comparing them more engaging for us as well. Why only twelve bikes and not twenty or thirty? There were five of us doing the testing over two weeks, split between the two categories, and we'd far prefer to put more time on fewer bikes than vice versa.
And by the way, we do feel terrible that the bike you want to see isn't here, but definitely let us know in the comments regardless. And maybe send Kazimer a direct message and tell him as well.
When it comes to testing and comparing, there's no substitute for countless back-to-back laps, and it doesn't hurt if the trails are amazing and the weather is dry and warm. Well, two out of three ain't bad. We may have nearly drowned and/or frozen a number of times during this Field Test, but we'd all argue that it was worth it.
With our house only a few hundred feet from the test loops, anyone watching would have been confused by the constant stream of five different riders coming and going every thirty minutes on a different bike. Thankfully, the rocky terrain and well-made trails drain incredibly well, and Pemberton in the fall has to be one of the most beautiful places in British Columbia. But if the locals ask, it wasn't me who said that.
The bikes need challenging terrain, of course, but making sure they weren't being tossed down chutes far beyond their intentions was also a very real consideration. After all, Pemberton has more than a few trails that would put our short-travel test fleet to shame; so while the bikes definitely saw some things they probably weren't expecting to see in their life, it wouldn't be fair to judge them in that light. Even so, the downcountry test lap was full of rocks, roots, a few steep bits, a few speedy bits, and all the corners.
As for the trail bikes, their lap was a bit higher up the mountain and a bit higher consequence. The descent was longer, steeper, rougher, and faster in sections, but nothing that a solid trail bike shouldn't be able to brush aside.
Way back at the very first Field Test, I remember Kazimer and I arguing with Brian about how neither of us wanted to include a timing section in these review videos. We said it'd only complicate an already hectic few weeks of testing, and that there are too many variables for it to matter all that much. Oh, and that we already knew which bikes were quick and which weren't by
feel, dammit, and didn't need no stinkin' computers to tell us anything...
Now I couldn't imagine doing a Field Test without some element of timing, even if we'll always lean towards on-trail feel for most of our impressions. And because all these bikes need to be somewhat decent at doing the down and up parts of mountain biking, we laid out timed sections on the test loops for both.
Field Testing also means matching control tires. Why do we change them all? Tires have a massive effect on how a bike performs, but they also wear out fast, get torn, thrown in the trash, and finally replaced with something else that costs too much. So why not just get rid of that variable altogether? The shorter-travel short-travel bikes got Schwalbe's Wicked Will on both ends, while the longer-travel short-travel bikes got a much more aggressive Assegai and DHRII combo, all with appropriate casings and the stickiest rubber we could find.
Impossible Climb, Efficiency Test, & Huck to Flat
It's not a Field Test without some pseudo-science, which is where the Impossible Climb, Efficiency Test, and Huck to Flat come into the picture. Matt Beer did such a good job the last time in Sun Peaks, we couldn't not bring him back for another round of "How the fu*k did he get up that?" We also returned to the scene of the very first Impossible Climb, a steep granite slab made even more heinous with some carefully placed "natural obstacles" to hopefully make Matt fall over a few times.
Henry Quinney was voluntold to do the Efficiency Test this time around as I had an important matter to attend to - one of my dogs needed to be walked at that exact time and she's very particular about it - but I'm sure he did an amazing job without me. There's no way I'm going to watch a boring video about climbing, so let me know how it went.
Speaking of how things went, prepare your eyeballs for yet another slow-motion bottom-out bonanza courtesy of Jason Lucas' can-do attitude and surprisingly sturdy ankles. Was there more carnage? The Huck to Flat video is always how we wrap the series up, so you'll have to wait until the end to find out how it went.
There were five editors at this Field Test, with Mike Kazimer and Alicia Leggett doing trail bike duties, and Matt Beer riding a bit of everything before tackling the Impossible Climb. Henry Quinney and I traded downcountry bikes, and Henry was also in charge of the Efficiency Test and getting lost in the woods at 3 am.
Shoutouts also to the outdoor hot water spigot, the mobile car wizard who fixed Alicia's Astro van, Meeshka the dog, fungi, friendly strangers, cereal, and shoe driers. Stay tuned for an upcoming two-part podcast that'll explain everything.
Matt BeerHeight: 5'10" / 178 cm
Weight: 160 lb / 73 kg
Notes: Tech editor, quick on a bike but never on time
Mike KazimerHeight: 5'11" / 180cm
Weight: 160 lbs / 72.6 kg
Notes: Managing tech editor, noted alien skeptic
Alicia LeggettHeight: 5'10" / 178 cm
Weight: 148 lb / 67 kg
Notes: News editor moonlighting as a tech editor
Mike LevyHeight: 5'10" / 178 cm
Weight: 155 lb / 70 kg
Notes: Tech editor, knows the aliens are already here
Henry QuinneyHeight: 6' / 183 cm
Weight: 183lb / 83 kg
Notes: Tech editor, full-time Branston pickle enthusiast
While it's the five of us you'll see on the videos, the truth is that we don't even know how to turn the cameras on. This circus wouldn't happen without the video and photo team who have to do way more work than us, most of it with either bag that weighs as much as an eight-year-old on their backs or with an awkward gimbal in their hands. And all of it in the cold, wet fall weather while doing their best to make us look somewhat acceptable on camera. Shoutout to Jason Lucas, Tom Richards, Max Baron, and Devin Francis for not just knowing how to turn the cameras on, but for doing pretty much everything else as well.
Stay tuned for the first Field Test video review that, if everything's gone to plan, should go live tomorrow. You can expect to see the six downcountry reviews and roundtable arguments first, followed by all the trail bike videos, and then we'll wrap it up with the climbing and hucking that we're all here for.
Which review are you most looking forward to watching?
Starting on December 3rd
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All I want for Christmas is a Transition Spur LoL
Raced enduro on a trail bike.
Sold it before the warranty expired.
I’m certain that the buyer knew this, right?
Nope. Just not an a*shole.
typical
Typical of what?
If you look closely above you can see a picture with the bike not blurred (the one with Mike under an umbrella), bike is a the far back.
You can then easily spot Giant classic Romero Saddle & the Giant rim decals.
Giant is throwing Fox Live Valve on every of their bike it's getting crazy.
- 120R/130F
- internal downtube storage
- high-low flip chip
- 66.2° HTA (low, 66.5° high)
- 77° STA
- 480mm reach (size L)
- 437mm CS length
- BB drop 45mm (low, 35mm in high)
- $10.5k for top-end model with Live Valve (29.9 lbs in XL). Other two builds at the $7k and $6k price points
Wish these media outlets would give the WB length... prob around 1220mm in size L.
I think I prefer the old-school Giant paint jobs (90's early 2,000's moto style) to these new 'understated' ones.
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(but for real, my new Ibis Mojo is my dream bike and rides amazing. Don't sleep on small wheels.)
in this article?
The Spur is the current king of DC...
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So the mystery bike isn't the new Orange then, since that's already revealed yesterday?
Really interested to see how the Murmur goes in the field test.
I expect @mikelevy to complain about the weight but it appears that the looks have won him over at least.
Mine is 150/170
#1 - must be 5'10" or 5'11"
PinkBike
Dear Mike Levy
I am writing you today in regards to the PB Field Management position. You will find I am highly qualified for this position measuring an even 6’0” and weighing an approximate 160lbs in proper XC kit. As a cycling enthusiast I own N+1 bicycles and am down with downcountry.
I look forward to speaking with you soon.
Kindest Regards
I also love riding short travel bikes beyond their intentions, and I enjoy long technical climbs. Keep reviewing bikes just for me, thanks
Answer- a trail bike. And the Evo is an all mountain bike. Why are we making new categories to slice up short travel bikes, and dropping categories to differentiate the character of longer travel bikes.
I find it all to be rather silly.
If you could please stop with the common sense on the internet that would be great. Also, you are 100% correct.
BTW I rode my Enduro on a 35 mile XC ride last weekend because my SJ was down and set 20+ PR's so who knows what it all really means. Get the bike/s you like and ride them as much as possible.
it's a real shame because Alu doesn't have to be much heavier than carbon when done well... but I think Spesh makes them heavy on purpose (or doesn't spend the R&D $$ to make them light) so they don't undercut their sales on carbon bikes.
What manufacturers should do instead is designing alloy bikes completely seperately from carbon bikes and work around the material properties of aluminium as well as possible. Basically exactly what Commencal does - prioritizing function over form or fancy materials.
Maybe the disclosure of carbon footprint can bring back higher quality alloy frames with higher speced components mid term. I hope, anyway.
Having also owned a few prior versions of the Element it, and the Blur TR, are the bikes I'm most curious about. Leading up to it's release my bet was on the new Element getting slacked out a couple degrees over its predecessor, going to a 67.5* HA (+/- 0.5* w/Ride9). If this one can move uphill as well as the last two versions plus follow close to an Instinct on the way down it'll be tough to beat in regions with an abundance of BC-style terrain.
Of course then there's price weighting to consider.
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There are no main stream production bikes with 32" tires being released anytime soon. Thank goodness.
At a minimum there are no tires for the things.
Seriously - would you tell us what your test loops are? Would be good to see what trails you are using.
All of the bikes were ridden on bigger loops too - we definitely binged on all the classics while we were up there.
serious question - is the rapha stuff worth it's price? I know you guys normally mention the sponsors, but I'm wondering if we can get product impressions of premium softgoods after some "real" extended usage?
So just skip it all and get to the part everyone agrees on: Huck to Flat and what and/or who broke.
My Optic is 65 HTA, and it seems about perfect. It would be OK if it was ~66 too, but I don't want it slacker.
Or is this a can of worms like the "Who Rides Bikes" comments section?
Shorter and taller riders have massively different centers of gravity. If you're short getting your front wheel off the ground is a lot harder with out good geometry, and if you're tall you're prone to going over the handlebars and having the front end lift up on climbs.
I have yet to see the bike and my local shop keeps getting different dates from Santa Cruz. First June, then July, then September, then October. Now supposed to be here by Dec 6th but I'm sure that date will come and go.....I've yet to see even a single one of these on the trails or in shops. Does this bike even exist?
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We generally try to keep the FT test fleet to bikes that we haven't already reviewed
I've had a jibb for a few months ths now and like it, but I almost wouldn't be surprised if the review is lukewarm.
Compared to bikes I've owned in the past the front/rear center balance is quite different. I find this makes it pretty sensitive to cockpit setup and front fork setup.
It's definitely a niche machine and not really a plug-and-play type of bike, it takes some work on setup and riding style to get the best out of it.
The new Blur TR is a very different bike. I’m happy to share more thoughts on the TB4 if you have any specific questions. Mike Levy’s review of the TB4 was very accurate, fwiw.
TR = Twitchy Rowdy. In lieu of cheques Santa Cruz can just send me a size large Twitchy Rowdy.
- Can we have this same downcountry field test except with hardtails?
Ok, I'm done now.
1) They already have a niner in the mix and they wouldn't double-up on brands.
2) The bike was unveiled in the trail category that's 130mm plus travel only.
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Would be interesting if someone could braze a bike together from steel and aluminium, depending on how these different tubes are being loaded. You can braze steel and aluminium together, can't you? Or is the solder already too hot for the aluminium?
The dark late autum season has just got a meaning again, phew
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#awfulbuildquality #crackedframes #customerserviceisajoke
Yes, the term comes from cross country running and is a racing format. By trying to define XC from terrain that we often label "XC" you're working backwards. That's like saying enduro bikes aren't for enduro racing because there are "enduro trails" you don't think are appropriate for enduro races. It's only after enduro racing became popular that people started referring to trails as "enduro type terrain", "enduro style trails", etc.
But the thing is, the trails commonly called XC aren't fit for racing and in no way comparable to what we see races on. These race tracks allow for overtaking for most of their length except for typically the fastest descending sections. But most of it seems at least 2m wide, you can overtake there without widening the trail. These are race tracks. The narrow and more delicate ones aren't fit for racing. You'd destroy them if you do. But what would you call them then if you can't call them XC?
As for enduro, I thought it was just all-mountain riding if you're not racing. At least that was the term they had for bikes that were good for rough descends and were a compromise but doable on the climbs. I thought of enduro as stage racing where you have timed sections and transfer sections in between. If you're not timing yourself or are being timed as such, it wouldn't be called enduro as the timing thing is part of the definition. Whether it could be called enduro type trails, I can imagine someone would call it like that if the terrain would be suited as such. That is, some technical sections with some less demanding sections in between that could be considered transfer sections.
That said, if you say with confidence that XC historically implies racing then I've got to trust you on that. Because I'm only more and more confused by all these silly terms. Just wondering though, if you're just riding your bike on narrow swoopy up and down trails in the woods and you're not racing, what would you call it?
Trail riding. Strictly speaking "XC" means XC racing. Loosely it means XC like. Calling a bike an XC bike really only makes sense if it's for XC racing, otherwise it's just a trail bike or DH bike. For terrain the terms are used more loosely. The problem is enduro races can be held on DH bike park trails, XCO races are often held at bike parks using ski slopes and green DH trails (ex Snowshoe), etc. Terrain nomenclature is much looser.
The takeaway is mountain bikers are really bad with terminology.
If there is a bike with different sized front and rear wheels in the article, you complain that it's there.
If there is no such bike you either compliment it that it isn't there or (like you do here) you ask why there is no mullet and throw in some derogative nomenclature.
At the end of the day, mountainbikes with different front and rear wheels have always been there though agreed initially the 26/24 combo was mostly for the more aggressive bikes and the Trek 69 had just too much difference between front and rear to work well (and 27.5 wasn't there yet). At some point the UCI banned them from competition which shied a lot of brands from speccing their bikes as such. Probably because even though most people don't race much, many may like to attend the odd race and it would be annoying if they couldn't take part if their bike wasn't permitted. Yet more than a few brands just kept making them (like Liteville) as they felt they just worked better for their use or for that particular size. Now that UCI dropped the ban, there no longer was a reason to not also make them.
By all means, get a bike with same size front and rear wheel and happily go ride it.
I must have touched a nerve lol.
However, Mullets are still a fad and I will be proved right. When it's a dead as a doddo come back and drop me a message. Will be glad to chat.
@bananowy: Cheers
Thanks for your tales of wisdom. I shall continue with my hatred for fads no matter how long your posts are.
When the Mullet fad is over, and it will be. Feel free to right me a long love letter again.
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