Ruby is a 4-year-old Hungarian Vizsla. She's been riding trails with Tom since she was a puppy, and she's definitely faster than you are. With a trail dog by your side you always have a riding partner who is ready to go, can bomb jumps, take the perfect inside line, stay right on your wheel, and do it time after time.
It may be dangerous for the dogs heart to run a full way down... pay attention folks ! Here no problem knowning every sequence lasts less than 10seconds..
@RedBurn: not sure where you are getting your info, but I have had several vets tell me I can run my cowdogs as far as I want, so long as their pads are ok and they are hydrated. My Hangin Tree pup comes from a working line (he's the only one not working stock in his litter), and his parents do 30+ mile days following horses and herding cattle. Both he and the catahoula/bc mix have no issue doing 15 mile rides. They love it more than anything.
@trialsracer: yeah you just have to train them appropriately to higher mileage, speeds, and nutrition like any human. I do long rides with my dog and she is in tip top shape. I will say, i HIGHLY recommend having your dog run behind you though, particularly Vizslas. Vizslas are pointers, meaning they like to run ahead, stop and point at birds to shoot. I had a wicked accident once because of this. Fortunately i was the only one hurt when dodging my dog on a downhill when she came to a complete stop to let me know there was a bird in the woods...... Now all my dogs run behind me and they still have a blast.
Vizslas are best. My is so smart and fast and yes, she is definitely better biker than me. After speed measurement she can run the trail up to 50 km/h (for a while).
@trialsracer: @redburn is refering to full on sprinting and hard running. It shouldn't last but for 30 seconds or so max, with several minutes of rest/slow pace in between. I've seen guys shuttling with their dogs, 8-10 minute DH runs all day long and just run them into the ground. By the time they're 4-5yo the dogs cant do it anymore.
A vizsla like this can easily do a 20-25 mile trail ride at a casual pace with a few good sprints thrown in. Just have to keep the speeds down. Working dogs are the same, sprint-rest, sprint-rest. Average speed while herding is still low, even though distances are long.
I'm sitting at this table called, Love, staring down at the irony of Life. How come we've reached this fork in the road, and yet it cuts like a knife...?
I have a German Pointer and he is the next closest breed to the Vizsla. Gordie Howl (named after the famous RedWing hockey player) is his name and he is an awesome trail dog too, can run for miles and miles. One thing I would recommend to anyone riding with a dog: keep him behind you. This is for the safety of both you and the dog. I've had Gordie stop on the trail in front of me once on a super narrow bridge which got sketchy real quick. Also it could be dangerous if you hit the dog for any reason. However if he knows the command "behind" like Gordie does, you are always in the clear....just don't nip his tail off with your rear rotor...Ive heard of that happened to longer tails. Luckily Gordie the trail dog already has a docked tail... keep him behind you, for both of your sake.
What I love about trail dogs if the fact that they don´t care what wheelsize you are riding, or wether your rims are carbon or not... they are just glad you took them for a ride. I´m always amazed at how much my dogs love chasing me down trails! She takes more sneaky lines than frenchies do!
My Vizsla (Chile Pepper is her name) is 11 years old and still charges as hard as Ruby. I've had her out on the trail since she was 6 months old. You've got a riding partner who will never turn down a ride, for life!
Wait til he/she is at least 1yo before you start running them with a bike. Too hard too soon and they'll develope hip problems at a young age or cause permanent damage while growing.
Love the happiness on the dogs face. I understand the breed and that it can run far and fast. Just keep it realistic and fair. I have seen many dog owners push their dogs to the brink and it never ends well. Super steep rocky terrain just isn't fair to the dog. They want to keep up and will do anything to stay with their owner. Over time all of the hard miles will take there toll on joints.
I make my dogs follow me, for a number of reasons. One is to avoid the situation @VtVolk describes. Others include making sure I encounter wildlife first (lots of moose where we ride) and people first (some weirdos get freaked out when they see two dogs barreling down the trail)
@trialsracer: One other reason to have dogs follow is to show them that you're the leader of the pack. I'm not criticizing the guy in the video, it's great. But typically, when a dog leads, they think they're in charge. They worry, they look for danger, they protect more, they are working, they are less likely to respond to commands from someone further back in the path (you).
When you lead and the dog follows, he/she understands that you're in charge. You're looking for danger, you're worrying about where we're going, you give the commenads, you've got it covered. The dog, then, just needs to follow the pack leader and emjoy the ride.
My dog wants to lead every single ride. I have to work with him the first 5-10 min to help remind him that he's not the Alpha in this pack, and after we establish that, he's an angel who doesn't chase wildlife, he doesn't bark at others, he doesn't march ahead, etc.
Cesar Milan has some amazing books and videos on how to train dogs. His main philosophy is that you want a dog that is "calm and submissive." His methods have really worked well for me.
I love my trail buddy, Fender. He's joined me for 23 mile rides. He love biking even more than I do (and I didn't think that was possible).
@sixstringsteve: It depends on my decision where is my vizsla running. If we are riding flow trail without jumps I let her to lead. If we are on unknown trail or jump section I do the command for running behind me.
My Weimaraner leads on the climb, follows on the descent. She's learned to hop off to the side of the trail and let me pass whenever a downhill section comes up, pretty sweet!
If you want more riding time, get an energetic dog. Your wife will be begging you to take it out for a ride and drain its energy.
Pointers also like to abruptly stop and check shit out or turn to make sure you're still there when in the lead, it gets dicey quick. Train them to follow on the decents.
Glad you like the video and thanks for the concerns, Ruby will run ahead, to the side or behind on command. When she knows the trail, she is much faster than any rider I know and has complete understanding of her surroundings. She picks up on sounds from the bike, particularly my freehub to know if I'm pressing on or coasting. Wildlife is never an issue, she lives for berms not birds. I agree though without knowing the breed / fitness or obedience of the dog it's best in general to advise to start them behind the bike. Stay safe and happy trails!
@WhatToBuy: thats a good point. most of the trails here are too crowded to ride with a dog. i just meant, i wish there was a place around here where i could ride with my dog becuase she does love running alongside me as i ride
Mas video's though!!! Rad one!
A vizsla like this can easily do a 20-25 mile trail ride at a casual pace with a few good sprints thrown in. Just have to keep the speeds down. Working dogs are the same, sprint-rest, sprint-rest. Average speed while herding is still low, even though distances are long.
When you lead and the dog follows, he/she understands that you're in charge. You're looking for danger, you're worrying about where we're going, you give the commenads, you've got it covered. The dog, then, just needs to follow the pack leader and emjoy the ride.
My dog wants to lead every single ride. I have to work with him the first 5-10 min to help remind him that he's not the Alpha in this pack, and after we establish that, he's an angel who doesn't chase wildlife, he doesn't bark at others, he doesn't march ahead, etc.
Cesar Milan has some amazing books and videos on how to train dogs. His main philosophy is that you want a dog that is "calm and submissive." His methods have really worked well for me.
I love my trail buddy, Fender. He's joined me for 23 mile rides. He love biking even more than I do (and I didn't think that was possible).