Pace Cycles Announces Details for The RC295 - Their First Carbon Full Suspension Bike

Dec 25, 2018 at 10:07
by Pace Cycles  
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PRESS RELEASE: Pace Cycles

Merry Christmas holidays to you all, from our first ever carbon full suspension bike - The highest performance Pace ever and the darkest horse from our stable. A carbon composite thoroughbred conceived to be ridden hard yet stay poised and unruffled.


The new Pace carbon fibre full suspension bike.
THE
RC295
THE DARKEST HORSE FROM THE PACE STABLE
Available in 2019. Keep up to date on the Pace website


You'll find the RC295 remarkably versatile as happy in the trail centre as it is on an enduro stage or any trail paved with mud, roots and rocks. Utilising the latest generation of our unique free floating system with metric shock to keep the wheel hooked up and driving hard.

Long, low and supremely composed - we'd like to present the state-of-the-art RC295.

This is the prototype. Available to you in 2019.

The new Pace carbon fibre full suspension bike.
Available in 2019. Keep up to date on the Pace website

This is a prototype, more information will be coming shortly. Here is some points to keep you going for now...

• Material: Carbon Fibre
• Wheelsize: 29"
• Front Travel: 130mm-150mm
• Rear Travel: 135mm
• Thru axle boost
• Internal cable routing
• Integral headset
• Sealed bearings
• Effective top tube length on this large: 642mm
• Head tube angle: 64.5 degrees
• Size: Medium, Large and Xtra Large
• Availability: 2019


The Pace Free Floating System with metric shock

Pace rider Ben Smith-Price

All images and video by Sam Flanagan


MENTIONS: @pacecycles



122 Comments

  • + 62
 They must have had a giant of an engineer to design that bike. A real maestro of suspension engineering.
  • + 4
 I get the joke here and it made me chuckle. But realistically it will perform/behave way different. Actually makes me curious when the Maestro Suspension patent will expire? Cant find it myself
  • + 14
 The 29" carbon reign, finally
  • + 25
 @chillrider199: maestro has a patent? I thought they blatantly stole it from dave weagle
  • + 11
 @zyoungson: They kissed and made up (by kissed I mean gave him a huge pile of cash)
  • + 1
 @zyoungson: Im pretty sure they do? I mean I could be wrong on that. Just thought I heard they did.
  • + 1
 @chillrider199: it doesn't matter , they stole it from dw
  • + 10
 Maestro isn't a floating shock. So this is different...
  • + 4
 This isn't a DW link or Maestro system. On those designs, the shock is mounted on the frame, whereas here it's mounted to the lower link making it a floating shock. I myself have never seen this design before.
  • + 6
 @AlexRose: take a look at Mondraker...
  • + 1
 looks like unfinished business.
one more VPP / DW / Maestro.
like them all its a nice suspension concept.
are there clients for all these brands?
  • + 3
 i think they did remedy their product with this floating shock mount
  • + 4
 Bring Akrigg back into the fold Pace!
  • + 5
 Pace released the rc400 in 2006, with this exact dual link floating shock layout, they'e been making dual link bikes as long as Giant, almost to the month.
  • + 0
 @hamncheez: I like those kinds of kisses!
  • + 3
 This design has nothing to do with Maestro/Giant/DW or anything else you suggest except for our own 'Free Floating' system that we designed ourselves back in 2004. If you actually look at the Pace RC295 it is different from the Giant, the shock is fully independent from the main frame and rear swingarm. This lets us engineer a perfectly tuned variable shock leverage and axle path to deliver maximum control and optimised spring rate throughout the stroke.
  • + 1
 @K1maxX @DGWW @zyoungson @luriaguy : This design has nothing to do with Maestro/Giant/DW or anything else you suggest except for our own 'Free Floating' system that we designed ourselves back in 2004. If you actually look at the Pace RC295 it is different from the Giant, the shock is fully independent from the main frame and rear swingarm. This lets us engineer a perfectly tuned variable shock leverage and axle path to deliver maximum control and optimised spring rate throughout the stroke.
  • + 2
 @pacecycles: Should have been more clear, that was directed at Giant only. DW and Giant even had a lawsuit if I recall correctly.
  • + 1
 @pacecycles: Yes, we realize that the execution of a suspension design is the important part, even if they look superficially the same. Two DW link bikes can perform radically different from each other, and not every twin link design is a DW.....

But this still does superficially look just like Giants suspension design.
  • + 1
 Real Talk: I would LOVE to see the leverage ratio curve on this frame.
Look at the unloaded leverage of the link as it attaches to the shock: not much there.
As that link rotates the shock will gain massive advantage pushing back on it. Add to that the further rate increase from the upward traveling lower link which mounts the shock and figure in a bit of loss of rate to the gained advantage of the seat stay vector (wheel load) applied to the link, and you get one seriously positive leverage curve.
AND there's the air shock its using...
I bet this bike feels stiff, but bottomless.
  • + 0
 Thanks for shearing your thoughts. @pacecycles:
  • + 25
 Looks like they deliberately posted crappy photos so you can't really tell what the bike is.
  • + 2
 @Brahma Thanks. You can't tell what the bike is? Wow. Let us know when you are free with your camera.
  • + 24
 We'll soon find out this bike was made in "New York City" instead of Texas.
  • + 1
 I laughed way too hard at this! Thank you!!
  • + 0
 This vid had my head spinning pretty fast.. Maybe is was breed by a NY Tornado :-p
  • + 17
 Another British press release. Another total absence of grammar, suitable punctuation, or any reasonable quality of writing. Depressing. This isn't the way to convince the world of your attention to detail and design flair.
  • + 6
 Pace have a good solid history of making awesome bikes. This will be a weapon, theres no doubt about it. This is not one of those compaines that use sweat shop labour to build bikes then charges the earth for them. British made baby!
  • + 1
 The 303, 305, 405 etc were all built in the east.
  • + 1
 @BertRoot: and lots of those 303s failed lots of threads where pace left them high and dry

One can only hope they have gone to the far East and not Leeds for their carbon
  • + 4
 I bought a Pace RC405 in 2008 with their free-floater suspension design, it’s still one of the best bikes I’ve ever ridden, let down only occasionally by the DT-Swiss HV shock. This is a refinement of that design, made up to date with modern geometry and build. With a modern shock fitted I’d espect the free-floater system to work really well, something like a Fox DPX2 or RS Monarch Deluxe. I love the square tubing which harks back to classic Pace bikes of old; It’s definitely on my “interested to try” list for 2019.
  • + 8
 Short and poppy just like my wanker...beyeahhhhhhh!
  • + 5
 Hopefully Pace shows better attention to detail with the frame than with proofreading the title - article talks about the "RC295" and title about "RC627"
  • - 3
 I see it was fixed.
Frame looks interesting, but why no steel version?
Looking fwd to more details.
  • + 10
 @rjp1: why no steel version of the frame?

I’m assuming because when you want to produce a product for sale outside of a shed-size business selling 5-6 frames then you can’t just swap between materials on a whim, plus you would have entirely different design parameters.

Do you ask why Specialized don’t make a steel frame enduro?
  • + 1
 @justanotherusername: Just an honest question why Pace decided to go for carbon insead of steel, given their experience with steel as frame material.
If I wanted to have a dw link/ maestro / zero suspension type of carbon frame (see top rated post) then I'd go with the respective players.
Kudos to Pace for jumping into that business. I guess they have done their numbers what sells best.
  • + 3
 Quality photo’s can make any bike look nice, but this does look a very nice and capable bike. Will be interested in some reviews. The more UK made bikes the better, especially if it’s relatively weatherproof and reliable (i.e Orange, Whyte, Bird etc), as we don’t get much Cali dust and baking sun over here! (Last summer notwithstanding). So if it’s durable, and a fun ride, and price is OK, hope it does well ????????
  • + 2
 Wow - I think we have a new record for highest number of keyboard warrior morons on one thread.

Pace have been around for years - the original bikes were light years ahead of most other things on the market, and they were making suspension forks when Giant, for example, were turning out crappy 'ATBs' that were about 10 years behind the curve.

But please keep on trolling and/or making brainless comments as your ignorance is highly amusing.

JP
  • + 2
 I'm interested...but then I've a serious soft spot for Pace. Am I right in thinking you can run 27.5+ tyres in a 29er frame? I'm not overly keen on the 29er aspect, but would be very interested if 27.5+ fitted as I'm quite happy with my current 27.5" ride (although instantly tempted to replace with the Pace - which is fine, until the pricing and geometry is released).
  • + 6
 But are the tubes square?
  • + 6
 Richard Cunningham doing the review then?
  • + 5
 Pace still exist? And they don't make a fork? I mean a Pace bike without a Pace fork? Madness.
  • + 3
 DT Swiss bought the fork designs from PACE years ago. So Throw a DT on the front and voila.
  • + 15
 I thought they made salsa
  • + 4
 @me2menow: no salsa is part of QBP.
  • + 1
 Sold to DT
  • + 3
 @me2menow: nobody got that one.
  • + 1
 Looks like they might have created bespoke carbon lowers for a pair of Fox 36's though...
  • + 2
 @landscapeben: Nah, those are stickers...
  • + 3
 Pace are still a reasonable player in the UK MTB scene, operating as a family owned brand from sunny North Yorkshire. Look them up on IG
  • + 0
 @thejames: I got it! My boss heard me laugh.
  • + 0
 @landscapeben: aye, stickers, look at the shape...if doing carbon, surely better to do full lowers, and if so, unlikely to be stickered up as normal Fox forks...
  • + 0
 @ShoodNoBetter: yeah you're probably right Wink
  • + 1
 @me2menow: We have nothing to do with Salsa Independently run in sunny North Yorkshire, UK.
  • + 1
 @pacecycles: it was a joke you goobs, google Pace Salsa
  • + 1
 Does anyone find it a bit unsettling that the gave ETT, as if that's the main way people judge bike sizing/geometry in 2018?
Totally useless dimension on its own. Why not post the actual geometry? Seems a little out of touch.
  • + 3
 "This is a prototype, more information will be coming shortly."
  • + 0
 @JVance: so you're saying that they know the top tube length but not the other numbers, or.theu subject to change? That even less confidence inspiring.
Send a press release when you actually know what the geometry is, and include it, otherwise it's just fluff.
  • + 2
 @KennyWatson: Those are Pace's words, straight from their press-release. You interpret it however you want.
  • + 1
 The most asked question to us with any model/frame we have brought out over the 32 years, is what the head tube angle and the top tube length is. So forgive us for giving the customer what they want to know. Absolutely not out of touch, just making life easier for Aimee in customer service :-) Full geometry and specification out soon, this is a prototype.
  • + 4
 i was worried for a second that 29.5 inch wheels were about to be a thing
  • + 4
 A 4 bar link driven short travel 29er. Just what the market needed.
  • + 2
 It’s a prototype and might be available in 2019.......this article is just a form of troll marketing.
  • + 1
 @rivercitycycles: Or maybe just announcing a prototype with the production run available in 2019?
  • + 2
 I see what you did there , darkest horse!!! An you filmed it on the dark horse trail ????
  • + 2
 Q: What happens when a Remedy has sex with a Trance?
A: This thing 9 months later.
  • + 3
 So it'll still look like a session...
  • + 1
 Since it's their first bike in this category, it will be an inexpensive option for anyone who wants to save money and take the risk.... hahahaha, yeah, right.
  • - 1
 It is their second full suspension bike, but the first was a one-off and about 20-odd years ago - RC-500 (I think).
  • + 2
 I'm talking mince, they have made some full suspension bikes about 10 years ago, so this isn't the second design...I forgot about the 400 series...
  • + 2
 They did both 5” and 6” travel full-floater designs in 2007, the RC405 and RC506. It’s not new territory for Pace, but an evolution on that original design.
  • + 1
 @Paceman: I stopped following them properly when they went to the far east for frames so looks like I've missed several full suspension designs!
  • + 1
 It’s as if they don’t want anyone to see it.. making every shot blurry, but then also don’t want to shoot a rider riding it actually fast..
Confused
  • + 2
 Bikes made / designed in the UK do tend to work well in UK conditions, so Im looking forward to this.
  • + 3
 But will it keep Pace with similar bikes?
  • - 2
 Maybe in 2019......meh
  • + 2
 I still have and ride my RC506, it’s a great bike.
  • + 2
 So where are the kinematics curves?
  • + 1
 Full information out shortly :-)
  • + 1
 Will we see a lawsuit coming from Dave Weagles??? Eek The Guy is money hungry and has sued many times before!!!
  • + 1
 @beeboo this frame and/or Pace have nothing to do with Dave Weagles, this is our own design from many, many years ago.
  • + 2
 How I miss my RC200 F8. Now that was a Pace.
  • + 2
 Dude Ben how did you manage to pack a whole bag of gumballs in your mouth?
  • + 0
 Carbons great and all but I would have really loved for them to bring back the classic Pace box aluminium tubing!
  • + 1
 Sorrrrryyyy! We have to move with the times I am afraid :-)
  • + 0
 -10 points for calling it "Xtra large". Shoots any potential credibility out the window.
  • + 2
 Hahaha lame lol
  • + 1
 @bishopsmike tomato tomato.
  • + 2
 Pace forks to match?
  • + 1
 Never heard about Pace. What dat? (Without sarcasm)
  • + 3
 Only been around for 25 years!
  • + 3
 In the 90s I lusted after their RC200, in ano purple of course.
  • + 2
 Not a Metric shox.
  • + 2
 Square tubes. Finally!
  • + 2
 Looks good!
  • - 3
 Well then, R.I.P. Pace Cycles... Tombstone reads: Here lies Pace Cycles for going all in on a plastic bike that noone will buy.

You will sell 2 of them and be filing chapter 11 by the end of 2019.

DON'T DO IT!
  • + 4
 Lucky they make one hell of a steel hardtail then. Dumb ass
  • + 0
 ahhh good ol' name calling from an anon keyboard tough guy. Very refreshing. I'm aware of said hardtail but what does that have to do with the topic of a carbon full su? Nothing. Now swiftly f*ck off. Dumb ass
  • + 2
 @NYShred: Don't have to be tough to see the truth of what you are.

On the subject of their bike you seem to think making it carbon is a way to go out of business for them. Care to back that up with something substantial other than keyboard bashing.
  • + 3
 Why thank you for your lovely words! Remind us to ask for your advice when designing a bike for our customers next time @NYShred.
  • + 2
 @fatduke: Cheers for your support! :-)
  • + 0
 I saw the number 295, and got excited for a second.
  • + 0
 It's like Maestro and Level Link had a baby
  • + 1
 haha we are nothing to do with Level/Maestro and designed the independent 'free floating system' many moons ago. Not that the Level/Maestro link is anything like ours. If you actually look at the Pace RC295 it is different from the Giant, the shock is fully independent from the main frame and rear swingarm. This lets us engineer a perfectly tuned variable shock leverage and axle path to deliver maximum control and optimised spring rate throughout the stroke.
  • + 0
 Just an ugly plastic bike
  • + 1
 Why thank you!
  • + 1
 That fork is sweet!
  • + 0
 How else is over with all these bikes looking the same?
  • + 0
 Made in New York City?!!!
  • + 0
 *squints*
  • - 1
 The only Pace I know is Salsa
  • + 1
 Salsa and Pace are nothing to do with each other. We are independently run in North Yorkshire, UK :-)
  • + 2
 @pacecycles: Nice job on this design... I love the fact that you have the shock floating independent of the main frame and swing arm... I owned handful of bikes that used the floating shock design and believe those bikes were and still the best at managing small high frequency impacts. And with the technology of the modern shock, I can only imagine how nice this should feel... Big fan, roll on...
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