Adam Brayton's Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016

Jun 5, 2016 at 15:43
by Paul Aston  
Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016

Scott has backed the Gstaad team for years but it was a Hope Technology team rider that finally rolled the dice, stayed upright (just about) and put the Gambler on the podium. No custom linkage, no carbon swingarm and the backing of one of the smallest teams in the paddock. This was Adam 'Gas to Flat' Brayton's best result to date and, on a track that isn't too far from being his local. We took a quick look at his battered and bruised bike minutes after it survived a wild ride down the hill between the legs of the newly named 'Keswick Kestrel'


Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016
After this weekend, Adam's overall standing has jumped up to 13th.

bigquotesWe use Hope handlebars which aren't available yet, they're cut down to 740mm wide which is suitable for a short girl, but it seems to work pretty good for him. - Rob Dodsworth, Adam's mechanic.

Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016


Adam uses a 34t chainring mounted directly to 170mm Hope cranks, without a bash guard or lower guide. They admitted they had damaged a couple of chainrings over the weekend, but that’s World Cup DH racing. Discs are 203mm front with 180mm at the rear, he chooses solid discs to save a bit of weight over the floating alloy/steel versions - about 10 grams each.


Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016


Hope's 7-speed hub has a wider flange and narrower freehub body, this means a stronger wheel dish and no need to use a cassette spacer. Adam was integral in prototyping and testing this cassette which is machined from single billet of stainless steel.


Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016
Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016

bigquotesWe are using an Ohlins rear shock and cartridge fitted into the standard BoXXer chassis. The fork has fairly quick rebound but ramps up nicely through the travel, the rear the shock has a custom tune to work with the linkage. I think he likes to set it up like his motorbike so it really tramps through anything rough! - Rob Dodsworth, Adam's mechanic.

Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016
Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016

Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016
This guy has too many nicknames...

Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016


Most teams would have rushed this bike back into the pit area to swap the wheel to a new one before the press managed to snap any photos of the damage. Hope Technology didn't care, admitting that it's broken but still got the job done - this could have easily been a run ending catastrophe.


Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016

Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016
More evidence that Adam's run was on the edge.

Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016
Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016


bigquotesThis weekends choice were Maxxis Minion DHF's, 2.5" 3C, MaXXPro tires inflated to 25psi front and 30psi rear using our 'BroCore' system. To be honest, we've only had one flat all weekend using that system, we've also been on the same wheel set since the last world cup and BDS. We changed this rear one for the race run today and he destroyed it. The wheel build is standard, straight out of the machine at Hope, I've been truing them up a little but nothing major. - Rob Dodsworth, Adam's mechanic.


Adam Brayton s Scott Gambler - Fort William World Cup 2016

Hope Technology
In other Hope news, Craig Evans had a massive crash in his race run and bent his lever. Again, Hope didn't care about letting the public see this damage, it got to the finish line. Job, done.



MENTIONS: @hopetech / @SCOTT-Sports




106 Comments

  • 318 4
 Good on Hope for being honest about the destruction he wreaked on that wheel. Proper honesty is the best marketing especially from a quality brand like Hope. If I had the money my bike would be covered in their parts, made in Britain too Salute
  • 75 1
 No wonder that the rim is broken... his riding mostly looks like that www.facebook.com/328105652740/videos/10153096461457741/?pnref=story
  • 35 8
 Suck it Enve!
  • 44 3
 @SacAssassin: Didn't Minnaar win on Enve rims?
  • 13 1
 All the riders who have tough runs or crashes still have to push through the crowd to the pits, there is no hiding the damage done at this point. I have even waited till the pits were closing and teams had left, loads of used tires and mashed up rims in the bins! Once I gave a hand to some guys who were packing a truck and in return they gave me some new goggles.
  • 17 1
 @AdamOdh: Bender has got nothing on that hucking goat.
  • 16 1
 I think from a marketing point of view it is actually clever to show the wheel. Hope isn't necessarily about being the lightest. Their customers are (I suppose) enthusiast/privateers looking for stuff that looks nice, works well and doesn't ruin your ride when it gets rough. They accept that stuff can break but won't accept that it compromises your race run. This wheel did just that. It took a beating and broke in the process, but didn't keep him from getting his best WC DH result ever. Same goes for that brake lever. I expect that if his gear broke in a way that caused him to crash (for instance the brake failed completely), they'll be less eager to show it to the public. Then of course you have that much of the stuff people are riding from the big companies is still in the development stage and not available to the general public. So it is a bit unfair to compare a failure there to production stuff as you see here. Of course stuff from Hope is always under development but at least this is stuff available to the public (except for maybe the colours).

That said, they didn't call for this. The wheel broke and they handle it in a way that doesn't fool anyone. So that's good.
  • 6 0
 @djm35: DH Dumpster-Diving!! I can dig it!

@AdamOdh: Goat huck to flat - hurts to watch
  • 1 7
flag Ephaxia (Jun 6, 2016 at 13:34) (Below Threshold)
 @vinay: sorry but ..... TL-DR
  • 4 0
 @NoahColorado: True, but you could have put Minnaar on a pair of cinderblocks and he would have still had it by a second and a half.
  • 2 0
 @AdamOdh: thats gran canaria mate!
  • 3 0
 Anyone else would have claimed it was a "pre-production model"
  • 1 0
 @AdamOdh: Ha ha that's excellent! Smile
  • 1 0
 They're happy to show their stuff bends not breaks. If a lever or rim breaks/shatters like carbon does then that's run over. Alloy tends to bend so you can still get down off the hill riding the bike.

Plus if the world's fastest and hardest riders can only bend their kit then us mere mortals will be fine. Can't get a better endorsement than that!
  • 1 0
 @CustardCountry: Technically that would probably be true as well. Most bigger companies or companies who don't do all in-house have a much longer cycle between pre-production and production. And racing where they can still keep a close eye on it is an important testing stage before something reaches the production stage where consumers can get hold of it. If you have a large OEM market (like the bigger companies have) they'll actually have to have this all well sorted before they invite the press and bike manufacturers to their camps. That may actually be the most time consuming stage and Hope doesn't have any of that. That saves them months.
  • 77 1
 Uncomfortable reading for Brendog...
  • 28 5
 desire and drive beats talent most days.
  • 60 2
 @stacykohut: and keeps hospitals full
  • 24 1
 Sounds odd but Brendan's not on the team for podium results.
  • 6 0
 yeah that's what I though…
at least now they know a gambler can get podiums.
  • 6 0
 @stacykohut: Umm I reckon Brayton would outcorner Brendog any day, just look at that Schladming vid from a few years back..
  • 11 1
 Team GSTAAD has to be a embarrassed by this..
  • 6 1
 @BeerGuzlinFool: I dunno, as someone above wrote, maybe brendog brings something more than just podiums to the team. He has gotten them rampage coverage, which is fairly massive in terms of exposure...
  • 5 3
 @VwHarman:
Love Brendogs style but Its not like he won Rampage.
I still think Scott expects podiums on a bike they have spent so much time and money on.
Both Neko and Brendon have underperformed on race day.
  • 4 3
 @BeerGuzlinFool: ...Neko did have a good race run without a chain last year.
  • 6 0
 @Rider656: That wasn't on a gambler though - sort of defies the point...
  • 9 1
 @Rider656:
That was when he raced for Trek..
He hasn't been close to a podium since then.
Makes you wonder if it's the bike or the team.
  • 11 1
 If you reduce the value of a rider to whether they get podiums or not, how much of the DH community are you disrespecting? A top 20 (14) finish in today's DH game is what I would consider an extremely solid result. Brendan is a talented rider who is also fun loving and stylish. I guarantee he sells bikes for Scott despite the fact that he isn't getting podiums.

Congrats to Adam for an amazing result.
  • 8 2
 Brendog is one of the most recognisable riders, and most popular in terms of media coverage. Scott is on to a good thing with him and they know it... That's why they just re-signed him for three years.
  • 3 3
 @jonnyboy: True dat, he's been carving out a living for years by looking steezy in pics.

Almost seems unfair to keep him on the team and keep a young hopeful off a race team.

Still you can't beat the look of Brendog going sideways off some huge booter!
  • 2 0
 @CHawk68462: well said. I agree entirely. There aren't that many riders who win with any regularity, and not many more who a consistent podium finishers. If we are looking at a dozen guys who are always right there, it is very tough to get a top result.
  • 2 0
 Yup, some of the best technical riders like Brendog, Bryceland, Thirion, Fearon, Blenki, Hart don't often podium but their riding is no less spectacular than the points leaders. Raw speed through the gnar, unique lines, and un-thinkable gaps are what make WC exciting to me!
  • 2 1
 @scriz: I don't disagree with any of your comments but you have to admit it has to be a little embarrassing to have a rider that few have heard of do better than your factory rider.
  • 55 1
 Ok, now I have to know what 'Brocore' is. Are they chopping up the loudest dudes in the gym and using their thick skulls as tyre reinforcement or something?
  • 6 1
 This one got me curious too !
  • 4 26
flag dtax (Jun 6, 2016 at 7:40) (Below Threshold)
 this team likes nicknames... sounds like their nick name for the procore system www.schwalbe.com/en/schwalbe-procore.html
  • 6 0
 I'm guessing it will be very similar to Chris Porter at mojo's take on the procore system which runs a 650c tubular road tyre inside at very high pressure.
  • 3 0
 @philblue: Can't be, for the hack you would need to have a second valve on the rim and there is only 1 valve if you look at the first picture. Has to be something else.
  • 4 0
 @Balgaroth: Doesnt have to....you can poke the tyre with a thin needle and fill it that way.
  • 1 0
 @dtax: That's not a Procore valve stem in the broken wheel picture.

I'm guessing they have kludged their own system.
  • 2 0
 I thought brocore was a tube inside a tubeless set-up. So if the tube goes hopefully the tubeless set-up seals itself.
  • 3 0
 @HpSauce - I get that now... 20 neg props later.... sorry guys, my bad.
  • 54 1
 Hell yeah!
  • 35 1
 So sick~ Glad that wheel survived and didn't completely fail. Hope has been making damn good products for years. I'm a fan of their hubs for sure but never used their rims before but I'd like to try one one of these days. Props to Hope also for not giving a shit about having the press/media take a photo of the damaged him.

They are honest and not scared to show the abuse their products go through. Esp when a hard core bomber like Adam Brayton rides it~
  • 6 4
 They should ride on Honey Badger tyres !
  • 1 0
 @Balgaroth:

Nasty ass honey badger!!
  • 1 0
 @hampsteadbandit: Indeed like Adam on this run ! And also Hope Tech like the honey badger "don't care" and "don't give a shit" lol
  • 15 1
 "they're cut down to 740mm wide which is suitable for a short girl" shot fired by the mechanic lol
  • 2 1
 YESSS. this was the best part!
  • 10 0
 Ha I remember a few years back when I really started to pay attention to mountain biking and started to geek out to the tech. I'd see the pros running something and think to myself, "That must be the best part ever!" Now after riding hard I've learned that it doesn't matter what the part is, chances are slim that it won't be totally wrecked by the end of a long race weekend. Atta company showing the true colors of parts and the reality of hard riding. Sick of the companies who refuse to show any failure of parts that they make.
  • 16 2
 So what is bro core.
  • 11 0
 Finally some recognition! Congrats Adam!
  • 6 0
 Agreed! The way he squashed those jumps was pure brilliance. Looking forward to seeing more of this!
  • 7 0
 Pretty sure he hasn't only just been nicknamed "the keswick kestrel" Top bloke, so stoked to see him put one together. His segment in Earthed 5 is definitely one of the sickest clips ever!
  • 8 1
 Since 6 Years i use Hope Parts and i m not about to change that.
  • 3 1
 Same here. Hubs, stem and brakes ... amazing products, good looks and easy for maintenance. Now i think about it, my Flux has a RF stem.
  • 1 0
 I've been using the same front/rear Hope M4 brakes for 16 years, and a Hope Bulb rear hub for over 10 - all still going strong! Smile
  • 8 0
 740mm Bars!
  • 2 0
 Yes! Old style!
  • 6 3
 I'm very happy for Brayton getting his best result yet in such a wild run, but I really hope he rides more in control because is very stressful to watch and he might wreck himself. Bring on the neg props, I just want the riders to be as safe as possible going down a mountain full of rocks at 50 km/hr
  • 3 1
 I agree. I watch him peeking through my fingers. He's not good for my heart rate - I just can't look away.
  • 6 1
 a carbon rim wouldn't have finished the job after an impact like that.

#AluminiumFTW
  • 6 1
 That is a niceeeeee bike! well done Brayton! Big Grin
  • 4 0
 That was the wildest run iv ever seen giddy up cowboy hat's off for the horse whisperr.
  • 4 1
 i like hope. every mtb product at this racing level breaks every race but the difference is as you wrote. hope doesn't care! they like to be honest! well done HOPE
  • 1 0
 Why don't Hope make a downhill race pedal? They have the technology and the machinary to smash out some ace clip pedals but the stick to just making Joey pedals. It doesnt make sence.
  • 3 0
 what a beast!!! slayed that loose and wild run!
  • 1 0
 Huge hope fan here! 4 sets of hubs, and I'm loving the E4s I threw on a few weeks ago. I'll be hard pressed to run anything else.
  • 1 4
 i had hope pro something or other, too damn loud!
  • 1 0
 This guy is so brutal rider, that i won't be surprised to see his gambler divided into parts.
  • 2 0
 What kind of brake lines is he running there? Are those stock?
  • 7 0
 Braided hoses, available as stock
  • 1 0
 Boy that ohlins suspension was working hard at the top bits, his rebound must be crazy fast...
  • 1 0
 Yes Leatherhead! Sticking one up to the big boys and the Mongolian Cycing Federation.
  • 2 0
 I wish hope would sell green too joe public
  • 1 0
 His narrow bars really stood out to me watchn his run...thanks for confirming.
  • 1 1
 Props to Scott for race support ! Always been a fan. Just wish their packs were available in US
  • 1 0
 Love that orange, so bling!
  • 1 0
 Why aren`t pros using floating brake discs? Aren`t they lighter?
  • 7 0
 I should have read the text first...
  • 3 1
 @Blablablup123: FWIW, in Shimano land, they are actually lighter, so it made me go "ehhhh?" too.
  • 5 0
 @groghunter: The ones from Shimano aren't floating, are they? I thought it was just a spider for stiffness rigidly riveted to the brake surface. A floating rotor has a spider that allows the brake surface to expand due to heat without warping.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: eh, at the end of the day, though, I wouldn't expect weight to be hugely different due to that distinction, aluminum spider & steel braking surface would be the main players in weight.
  • 1 1
 @groghunter: There is so much different between the two that it becomes hard to compare which is supposed to be lighter. Shimano uses this aluminium sandwiched between steel for the brake surface whereas the Hope brake surface is probably solid steel. The Shimano spider is (probably) forged whereas the Hope spider is machined. Even though this doesn't change anything about the density of the material, the forged product has a better grain structure than the machined part hence they can use less of it for the same strength and durability. And as mentioned earlier, the Shimano interface between spider and brake surface is lighter and there are fewer of them. I don't know about Hope, but I also recall the Shimano brake surfaces are particularly thin. Not only that, I also find them (or at least the first generation Saint brakes I have) to be quite narrow. They grip about half the brake track of the old Magura Julie brake rotor they replaced whereas I thought the Hope brake track was quite wide. All these details make it hard to compare the differences between the brake rotors with and without spiders from both brands.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Isn't every forged part machined? It's impossible to forge a metal part as a finished piece without machining the details.. even castings need cleanup and they are essentially a rough version of a finished part. I do know my Hope brakes never fade, warp the rotors, or need bleeding and they take a beating with no loss of performance year after year (DOT 5.1 brake fluid helps). Can't say that about any other brand I've run.
  • 1 1
 @skidrumr: If the tolerances are tight, for instance at the hub mount and where the brake surface is mounted, they indeed need machining. Same goes for cast parts. But the rest is not likely to be machined so the grain structure (with forged, not cast parts) is still fairly parallel to the surface. This helps slow down fatigue cracks (the propagation phase). You may like to compare this to a spanner (that says drop forged on them). The beak is indeed machined for accuracy but the rest isn't. So basically the largest part isn't machined. It may differ between products. Hope probably machines the entire surface of what eventually becomes their hub. But with Shimano for instance the flanges of the XT hubs are machined out whereas the Deore flanges don't receive that treatment. I think Shimano is really good at forging and it makes sense for the large volumes they're producing.

I have no doubt about the quality of Hope brakes. There is this nice thing about mineral oil brakes that you don't really have to go through the complete bleed procedure though not many people are aware of this. Unlike DOT, the mineral oil doesn't degrade when it comes into contact with (moist) air. So you only need to chase the air bubbles out of the system. Position the master horizontally, make sure that the hose only goes up from caliper to master (which implies with some full suspension designs that you have to tilt the bike). Now slowly squeeze the lever and let it snap back quickly. Wait a few seconds and repeat a few times. Within a few pumps you should have your brake force back as you've now chased the bubbles into the reservoir. This is something you can easily do out on the trail. The back home (if the lever is still firm, otherwise proceed as described above) push the slave pistons back (no need to take the pads out), open the reservoir, top it off with oil and close it again. Not sure about these modern systems which don't have a reservoir cap. I suppose you could just stick the syringe or whatever is recommended into that bleed port at the master and add oil there. I do this with Shimano and (pre-MT series) Magura disc brakes and never go through a full bleed.
  • 2 0
 @vinay:

"There is this nice thing about mineral oil brakes that you don't really have to go through the complete bleed procedure though not many people are aware of this. Unlike DOT, the mineral oil doesn't degrade when it comes into contact with (moist) air. So you only need to chase the air bubbles out of the system. "

OH f*ckS SAKE. Please don't tell people this. you need to bleed mineral oil brakes MORE often, not less, for exactly the reason you bring up: it doesn't absorb water. that means, any water in the system stays together. which means it can vapor lock the system, or stay in contact with the internals long enough to start corrosion. With enough corrosion, you can completely lose braking. The ENTIRE reason DOT fluid was developed was because it absorbs water, & braking performance degrades gracefully when contaminated. Because you know, if your brakes suddenly lock up or stop working in a car, bad thing happen.

Mineral oil is fine as a braking fluid. but suggesting a non-hygroscopic fluid never needs replacement is flat out dangerous.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: Thanks, never thought of this like that. If that's correct my calipers should contain quite some water by now. I'll give them a bleed soon. Still, I should have run into trouble by now. Surprised I haven't.

I'm not sold on DOT for bicycle brakes though, the bleeding procedure in particular. In the factory they may purge it, but as a consumer it is going to be in contact with ambient air. And as you're never going through the entire bottle, you'll have a bottle with DOT that is no longer sealed. The oil degrades right there in the bottle.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: My wife's bike has Shimano brakes with mineral oil, and those damn things need constant attention to keep working, and even when they do it doesn't last long. That is my only exposure to mineral oil as a brake fluid, and maybe it's an isolated example, but compared to DOT brakes they are pathetic. The Hayes I used before had no issues with bleeding either, but they faded with hard use and chattered a lot hence spending the $$ for Hope. No regrets. The Hope flip-flop reservoirs are the bomb, when you actually need to bleed them every few years (or destroy a hose in a crash like I did)
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Oh, it's possible that you have no water in your brakes. Any discussion about contamination assumes that water or moist air is making it's way past the seals, & modern seals are pretty good. But you flush the system anyway, because you can't see inside the caliper or the hose, & because the consequences of contamination in a mineral oil system are severe.

DOT fluid, OTOH, you just open the master cylinder cap & see if it looks like snot. if it doesn't, fluid doesn't need to be flushed.
  • 1 0
 @skidrumr: I'd replace those brakes. Shimano brakes are generally trouble free(you're just supposed to flush them more often than dot fluid brakes.)
  • 2 1
 that linkage design is crazy looking
  • 2 0
 from ronco.................. it slices, it dices, its the ultimate veggie chopper! order now and get 2 for the price of one when you pay the shipping and handling. sorry no c.o.d.s
  • 1 0
 Did he take a chunk out of that mallet or am i just looking at it wrong?!
  • 1 0
 pretty sure that is just a pair of mallet e pedals, rather than the dh
  • 1 0
 @Spapjw: They are the E, not DH...unless they are a prototype...
  • 2 1
 Whoa is he riding that thing set up 26?
  • 5 1
 Nope. The pic of the tyre says 27.5- he does run the bike quire short by the looks of it though,and I don't think he's that tall. Lets be honest here though, had it been 4th on a 26'' bike in 2016, PB's servers would have melted by now and we'd be seeing a state of emergency declared across several continents with likely loss of life in the tens of thousands. It would make a Trump presidential victory look like a chimps tea party.
  • 2 0
 Hope rock
  • 1 0
 Just imagine how fast he would go with wider bars.....
  • 1 0
 nice to start, Ohlins away with spec a bit
  • 1 0
 I like this.
  • 1 0
 Let pros have orange
  • 1 0
 now thats a Gambler
  • 3 4
 Not the prettiest bike but who am I to say haha
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