It's The Final Randoms - Eurobike 2017

Sep 2, 2017 at 3:42
by Paul Aston  
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Aivee Components from Lyon, France, have developed a new downhill hub, and I'm still not sure why all downhill hubs aren't the same style nowadays? 157mm x 12mm with symmetrical spoke bracing, designed to work with 7-speed cassettes only. Drivers are available for Shimano and SRAM XD. €180


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This funky-looking downhill bike was touted to be unbreakable by its French creator. Our language barrier (read "my poor French") prevented me from gaining any accurate details, but the carbon monocoque frame has six layers of kevlar laid into the front end, combined with a machined-alloy swingarm. Completely made in Marseille, France, and raced at CWX Les Gets this summer. Give the guy some support and find out more on his concept on www.bht-bike.com

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Get out of my way...
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Rohloff have updated their classic Speedhub with electric shifting. The E-14 has, you guessed it, 14-gears tucked inside, it should be able to lap the equator a few times, and won a Eurobike Gold award this year.


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I think bamboo bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor sort of defeats the point.


Magura MT-T Brakes
Tibor Simai is a real bloke, kind of like a German Rob Warner (super friendly, used to be pinned, and now that he's old does the German language World Cup commentating on Red Bull). His signature brake from Magura, the MT-Tibor is limited to twenty pairs and uses an MT-8 caliper and a HC3 lever with black/chrome decals.


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Friendly guys...


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7Mesh's latest Guardian jacket is constructed from Goretex Active material and has an over-the-helmet hood using internal pull-strings to regulate the fit. Like all products from the Squamish-based brand, super-high quality but not cheap at $400 USD.


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Endura have updated all of their MTB gloves including the Singletrack which cost €35.99, the Humvee which is now €5 cheaper at €29.99, and a Danny Mackaskill signature glove for €24.99

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Ion have released a simpler and cheaper version of their flat pedal Raid AMP shoe. This new Raid comes in at €99 and shares the same SUP Traction sole as the AMP.


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The old boy might have retired, but Peaty's tubeless sealant has just arrived. Ammonia free with biodegradable shiny blue 'nano-platelets,' aka Unicorn Minerals. Available in a 120ml trail pouch or a one-liter bottle.


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The poor rider on the back not only gets a bad view but no pedal assist either.


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Along with some of the highest-quality bearings available, Enduro Bearings also have a smart range of tools to helps you with any of your pressing or pulling needs.

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Move over Enduro, there is a new E-word in town to cover all of your marketing needs. There were a bunch of e-bike specific products at Eurobike that bear no relation to having a motor between your legs: e-bike clothing, saddles, knee pads, and even pencils.


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The super-friendly and humble Croatian's behind Shovel Components have a range of light-weight and high-quality chainrings and guides. I have been using a One20 guide and bashguard on my DH bike all summer and it's still going strong. They were displaying prototype 'Ripper' floating disc rotors that use mini chainring-style titanium bolts, allowing riders to replace the breaking surface only.

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Love them or hate them (I'll double check who hates them in the comments later), hand guards do have some benefits. The guys from Mr. Wolf have launched the 'Recchie' on Kickstarter this week for an early-bird price of €34. The extra large guards are designed to protect all of your handlebar controls and make you feel like you are in Star Wars.



229 Comments

  • + 502
 Can e-bikes literally just f*ck off?
  • - 47
flag tuboy95 (Sep 2, 2017 at 5:57) (Below Threshold)
 They have there purpose. But if you don't like them don't ride simple as that! Glory of the free market. Don't get your panties in a knot! And it's kinda naive to rag on something you have little to no experience with, judging by your comments on other articles.
  • + 151
 the goo dthing about ebikes is, that if the industry spends all their money on them, they won't force a new standard on us real bikers every other week
  • - 21
flag Husker2112 (Sep 2, 2017 at 6:06) (Below Threshold)
 @tuboy95: *their
  • + 19
 Eurobike is competing with Decathlon now.
  • + 125
 Thasher doesn't pimp electric skateboards. PB give us a break! Start a new site e-PinkMoped. Wink
  • + 90
 I'm boycotting any brand that sells eBikes. Currently I'm down to a pretty slim list, And that's okay.
  • + 13
 Kill them all
  • + 88
 I would totally buy one if I had a 20+ mile commute daily. They're actually pretty fun. I'd only buy one as a car replacement though, not as a recreation bike.
  • - 25
flag Emu-Jon (Sep 2, 2017 at 7:16) (Below Threshold)
 @tuboy95: sorry for the props it was supposed to be a negative.
  • - 2
 @leopaul: Welcome to 26.95 inch wheels! all your bikes are pointless and outdated! hahahaha!
  • + 31
 Its pinkbike, not peeenkbike. Ditch the ebike product coverage. I also surf so i go subscribe to surfing which does not have sup, longboarding, or dick dragging coverage.
  • + 90
 a bicycle is defined as being "human powered". [mic drop]
  • + 9
 amen.
  • + 64
 I think I would just ghost ride that first Kevlar DH bike into the first e-bike stand I saw
  • + 24
 @tuboy95: the free market only works when there aren't negative externalities. People will quit bitching when they stop being ridden on non-motorized trails causing potential access issues
  • - 2
 @tuboy95: I live in North Korea
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 @vikb: Call the new site DC Douches.
  • - 1
 @DaFreerider44: Do you need food!? We can send you Top Ramen, wait, no probably can't make a fire to boil water let alone clean water to make it edible... we cans end you expired spam though! Big Grin
  • + 31
 @tuboy95: don't need to ride an ebike to know what it is.....

I see them around local trails occasionally and they're a joke, piloted by morons

f*ck off indeed
  • + 38
 @tuboy95: you could not be more wrong...I don't build trails for losers on motorbikes to ride. Call them what you will ebikes are motorbikes and have no place on mtb trails.
  • + 3
 YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNN.
  • + 10
 What really annoys me about this website and mtbers views on ebikes altogether is that at one point we were a small obscure sport trying to gain users and popularity so we could ride trails, and now that we are semi established another small obscure sport comes to us and is trying to gain popularity and ride cool trails, and all we do is turn around and tell them to f*ck off. this makes us no better than the hikers/runners that tried to shut us down when this sport first started. i would argue e bikes dont do any more damage to the trails than half the joeys on here skidding their way down trails every weekend. yall need to grow up.
  • + 15
 @acetasting1992: no dude, a bike with a motor is a motorbike. they need to be affiliating themselves with dirt bikers not mountain bikes. you need to get informed your comment about trail damage is totally false and at least the skidders earn the right to skid down the trail by using there leg power to get to the top. e bikes are motorcycles they belong on dirt bike trails not mountain bike trails.
  • + 8
 @Jungaloo: that is a really well reasoned and argued article. I agree.
  • + 14
 This may get down voted into oblivion, but I think the ONLY reason to not allow E bikes on mountain bike trails is for trail access issues. Do E bikes have a motor? Yes. Are they the same thing as a motor/dirtbike? Obviously, they are not. And as long as they remain pedal assist they won't have any additional environmental impact than your standard mountain bike.( are there test proving this wrong?) Now, if you have some crazy environmental nuts looking for the slightest provocation to kick mountain bikes off public land, then by all means we must do everything we can to protect our right to be there. I currently don't intend to ever have one as I believe in the effort that I put in to ride is one of the reasons it makes it so great, however, if one day I am injured and no longer had the ability to ride the same trails under my own power, then I would love to have that option.
  • + 12
 For all you who disagree with my above statement let me give you some background. I don't own a ebike and I probably never will. I have road them and experience first hand what they are like and what they can and cannot do.

Like I said they have their** place. I would like to point out though the only region that has an up to date law on ebike use is the European Union. I'm not going to go over the whole thing but the basics of it is as long as the bikes fall within a specific criteria related to power and torch it can ride on any trails deemed for cyclists.

As well on a first hand bassist I have spent a great deal riding with someone on a ebike. And I can honestly say I have never once seen the bike spin out with is where trail damage will come in. And even if the bike started to the motor would kick out.

Now as to their place. My dad is over double my age, and rides down hill on a regular basis. He recently bought a Specialized Turbo after I had bought a trail bike. Now without it my dad and I would never be able have the same level of enjoyment, he can challenge me on any climb and still be able to come on a whole ride. And to any whimps that is in there twenties and think they need one because a real bike is too hard, grow a set and ride a real bike.
  • + 4
 **torque
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 @JamesPBlaw: I disagree on your second to last statement no one earns the right to damage the trails, everyone should be equally responsible so that we all have continued access for now and future generations...well I guess unless you built the trail...on private property...

I don't get ebikes never have never will. I want a light flickable bike, if people have a genuine access issue they are trying to overcome that's a bit different to me. But the responsible thing to do is impact analysis of ebikes. I'm sure there are studies going on as everyone bitches. If they don't actually impact the trail then people need to suck it up, if they do then ebikes need to be confined to unregulated trails and private land...how is this so difficult for all of you to comprehend? People who have the money to buy bikes should be smart and we'll reasoned...instead we have a bunch of biased nonsensical bickering not rooted in any logic...just to play devil's advocate here how the hell is an ebike a dirtbike, it's a heavier bike sure, but the main damage to trails from a dirtbike is the ridiculous power to the rear wheel and braking bumps. Does an evoke cause anymore rear wheel slippage than a normal bike? Braking bumps are a fact of life although a heavier bike may more negatively effect the trail. Now If the trail doesn't allow motorized access then until the letter of the law changes or the definition of the bike changes ebikes shouldn't necessarily be so bold as to just assume they can ride there...
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 @Davschall: I was mainly being ferocious, simply by definition Electric motor + bicycle = motorbike or motor bicycle either way. your 1000W electric motor increases the power output by, you guessed it 1000W its narrow minded to think they wont get anymore powerful in the future....... bet my bottom dollar that there will be models as powerful as dirtbikes soon enough. Think of the G-Wizz vs a Tesla and how quickly that evolved
  • + 0
 @JamesPBlaw: Dont tell me to "get educated" when at this point we are all just speculating as there arent any studies done on e bike trail damage. Skidding down trail is bad no matter how you got to the top, all mtbers didnt pedal some shuttled and some get lifts. how is shuttling to the top and skidding down better than a respectful ebike user...
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 @JamesPBlaw: I absolutely agree on that, the whole comment wasn't directed at you, just the first part was what I disagree with. I've never ridden an ebike but I imagine that here isn't 1000w of power being directly imparted into the ground from the gate, even if it gets more powerful it can be compensated for in the pids. 1000w instantaneous is different than 1000w peak, the main damage a motorized bike is going to make, is going to be if it spins out a lot more. But anyway I actually have literally no bone in this fight and think ebikers should respect the laws and rules in place, and take the responsibility of doing the impact testing and getting everything approved. the mtb community has worked hard for access and selfish people(no matter what they ride) shouldn't be allowed to ruin it for others. But I will maintain that if ebikes are proven to cause no additional trail damage and are accepted under letter of law then antis need to suck it up and move on. I will end with I don't actually think ebikes have much merit, it's either meant as access for someone who wouldn't otherwise be able to participate. In which case they are stupid for using it as what do they do if it breaks down...or as a crutch for lack of fitness in which case you need to suck it up and work for it...I don't care if you are a weekend warrior or fat or whatever don't ride trails you can't handle. You can make life choices all week to get fit and stay fit...then once you are reap the reward of riding that trail...cycling is about suffering and loving it...OK I guess I do have small bone in the fight...
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 @acetasting1992: i would argue that in Canada where we dont have difficulties surrounding land use and access rights your short-sighted opinions might be right. In many other countries though, ebikes are a grey area, and the fear is that they may lead to further restrictions being placed on riding ares. I have only once seen one on my local trails, he was roosting up the trail and the trail was clearly a directional marked trail. Bombing a one way trail and meeting some old dude who is stoked on his new "quiet dirtbike" riding up the same trail was not rad.
  • - 1
 Richie Rude can put out over 2000w at peak.....just saying.
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 @Emu-Jon: nice music reference =)
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 @VwHarman: My opinions are certainly less short sighted than yours. if more users get into our sport and can lobby for us even if it is through e bike use then it gives our sport more weight and more of a voice. More signatures on a certain movement gives it more validity. your example focusses on one particular user who is an a*shole. If you see someone doing that tell them to stop wrecking the f*cking trails? if you saw someone stomping all over lips on a jumps trail you would tell them to f*ck off no matter what they rode up the hill on.
  • + 3
 @Jungaloo: that's a great article!! thanks
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flag clarky78 (Sep 3, 2017 at 5:16) (Below Threshold)
 Maybe people like you should just fuck off and stop whining like little girls on here. So sick of the anti-ebike fraternity. Worse than the wheel size twats ever were.
  • + 4
 As soon as they're done eating the bowl of dicks
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 @DaFreerider44: is that code for Kalifornia? Lol
  • + 1
 Amen.
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 @acetasting1992: i might be short sighted, im open to that possibilty. That said, all that a bunch of signatures attached to any topic will do is bring attention to something. The bulk of public land access legality in any country is driven by research, and the result of that research is hard to have a double blind test for. Most research in the area is based on user group conflicts, which innately are based entirely on first hand experiences, and impressions. Its not the best option, i would agree entirely, but it is the reality. I would love to have a little motor to help my old ass to the top of the fun trails, but i undestand why it maybe could become something a whole lot different than expected.
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flag gollub01 (Sep 4, 2017 at 10:21) (Below Threshold)
 I am stoked for the E-bike take over!!!! Its really only a threat to the fragile ego's of most mountain bikers! I don't want a little bit of E-juice though, I want UN-governed FULL power on my climbs! Sweating is for overweight people. Have fun on your struggle-buggies!
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 @gollub01: troll or loser; either way, please leave and don't come back.
  • + 0
 @nvranka: hahah, your feelings get hurt?? Get over yourself gaper!!!!
  • + 0
 @gollub01: you seem to like exclamation points...are you a 13yr old girl?

Yeah, I'm a gaper - lmfao
  • + 1
 It's not just trail access, it's also safety. Many mountain bikers ride in city parks that are frequented by dog walkers, hikers, runners, infants being pushed in strollers, etc. It simply isn't safe to allow motorcycles on these trails. And yes, ebikes are motorcycles. Each year they get quicker and that trend won't stop. Basically, does it make sense to allow motocross on pedestrians? Quite obviously no.
  • + 1
 @dfiler: most ebikes are designed to fall within the guidelines that the EU has layed out, which states the assist must kick out at 25km/h.
  • + 2
 @jrocksdh: classic --- SUPS and E bikes are at the same low level in my book--
  • + 1
 @dfiler: have you READ ANYTHING about ebikes? Are you another hater troll that just starts running your mouth without knowing any of the facts? Ebikes are limited to 25kmh. By law. That's slower than a slow thing on a really slow dull day On road. Hence they are for off road duties. And limited.. By law. So no, they won't get faster and faster unless people hack them, or are buying some crappy non-pedelec which is not what is being shown on this site. Oh yeah, by the way, did I mention they are limited.. to 25 Kmh...BY LAW?!
  • + 1
 @vikb: It's still happening at the trade shows... I'm sure half that show was e-bikes and PB only showed some of them. I don't like the idea e-mtb (really, any use of e-bike that isn't replacing a motorized tool, like a car), but I don't want to have the bike sites keep me in the dark to make me feel better. This is an industry show, and I want to see good coverage of the show, even if it's showing me "e-bike specific" clothing. Even if you hate the very mention of the word, "e-bike", at least you can be aware of the market trends and understand what's happening in the bike industry.
  • + 1
 @lyfcycles: exactly how I feel. I know a dude who who has put both his kids and 50 lbs of groceries on the back of his Felt Bruhaul successfully many times (or so he says!) Even if you have a 5 mile commute, having a cargo e-bike means you RARELY have to bring the car. I commute daily but when I have a package to ship or need to run to the grocery, I have to bring my truck. I could literally haul another bike in if I had an e-bike (know a guy who does that, too.)
  • + 1
 @Jungaloo: Article sums up my thoughts exactly. Maybe Pinkbike, or ePinkbike as the case may be, should read it. But, alas, the lure of cash...
  • + 1
 Agreed.
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 @clarky78: Quite familiar with electric vehicles and the laws governing them.

It is naive to believe that ebikes will remain slow because of laws. This is not trolling but rather a simple statement of fact. There are many different categories and jurisdiction. That makes it easy to get your hands on one that is faster than allowed in a jurisdiction or allowed on road, or on public land, etc.

Note that electric vehicles are already starting to demolish records set on internal combustion vehicles. Earlier this year, an electric car became the fastest around Nürburgring. They also have the fasted lap on the Isle of Man TT, fastest pikes peak hill climb... and 0 to 60mph in less than a second.

This is a dilemma we have to deal with. Right now the situation hasn't come to a head, but it will. Electric vehicles are awesome. A little too awesome, that's the problem.
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 @dfiler: Why on earth are you going on about electric vehicles in motor sport...??? What has that got to do with ebikes for recreational use?! If they created faster ebikes for racing that is a different thing that would be purely used on a race course anyway. If the law states a limited speed, manufacturers have to stick to it or they can't sell the product. If people hack it as I have said before, that is a different thing and a problem that cannot be controlled or policed.
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 Hacking is easy and you can order just about anything on the internet. Fast ebikes are not illegal in many places. They are just prohibited on roads and public property, depending on jurisdiction. Just order one off of eBay and you can get whatever you want. There are youtube videos explaining how to mod them as well. For example, look at how easy it is to buy illegal fireworks, cable boxes, fully automatic conversion kits for rifles, shower heads that don't meet low flow requirements, cars with the governors removed, plumbing products that are illegal in your jurisdiction, etc. If I wanted an ebike that goes faster than allowed here, I could order one in less than a minute. It is already happening and will become increasingly common. People like going fast, not just motorsport racers. Fast ebikes are becoming cheap. Price won't be a factor for if you want to stick to the regulated speeds or go much faster. I honestly don't believe regulations can keep vehicles slow. History should make that quite clear.
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 @Jungaloo: MIC drop from Blistergearreview... WOW! that article Nailed it. What I keep hearing about e-assist bikes is how they are just a different mountain bike, They are really just a different motorbike. It's very easy to determine the difference. What's that part on all of these that does the assisting again?.... Oh yeah, right a MOTOR. Not an "assistor". PinkBike I like a LOT of coverage but call a spade a spade..
  • + 84
 I am a fan of those hand guards but Mr. Wolf was the name of my neighbor growing up who was a pedophile.
  • + 15
 Seems like Mr Wolf created some problems this time.
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 @Muckal: the bonnie situation
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 You grew up beside a Catholic Church?
  • + 5
 Are you little red riding hood?
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flag cunning-linguist (Sep 2, 2017 at 10:33) (Below Threshold)
 Thinking about this in more detail, you go riding I presume, in the woods? I'm not sure on the size of your foreskin, but after a long ride it's probably red?

So theoretically speaking, you could be little red riding hood that got ragged about in the woods by Mr. Wolf.

So it wasn't a fairytale after all!!
  • + 5
 Mr Wolf sucks. You don't need handguards. Period. Have some self respect and buy some decent gloves.
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 @BaldBilly: tell that to the cast I had on all last summer from clipping a tree and busting up my hand!
  • + 4
 Someone needs to start selling them here in the desert. Gloves just don't cut it with all the cactus.
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 @ilovedust: I have done that before too
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 @ilovedust: I doubt a little hand guard is going to save your hand if you are smashing it into a tree hard enough to break it. I'd suggest just not hitting trees.
  • + 79
 E- bike specific clothing.. Kinda makes sense. Just like e-bike specific trails.
  • + 55
 You know your life has taken a wrong turn somewhere when you own an e-bike specific pencil.
  • + 56
 @tremeer023: you know your life has taken a wrong turn when you own an E-bike
  • + 38
 E bike specific clothing doesn't really work for mtbing... Turns out it's pretty hard to ride in an inflatable dick costume
  • + 17
 @thedriftisreal: man...I disagree with so much of what people say on PB, sometimes it drives me nuts

But it warms my heart to at least be reminded we can all unite around hating ebikes!
  • + 36
 If one day i ride road bike it will be on weed.
  • + 32
 "cause everything's better...on weed"
  • + 8
 Not saying i know or anything but... maybe i would be loser, more relaxed and felt faster so definitely more fun and intense
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 Un breakable?
Hold my beer
  • + 7
 is it an IPA? Big Grin
  • - 3
 @shwinn8: single origin hops
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 @WAKIdesigns: right now it's a shepherd neme & Co 1698 Kentish strong ale. 6.5% bottle conditioned.
Strong, Dark and (I'm Brittish so obsviously) Room temperature!!!
  • + 6
 @nojzilla: you britts and warm beer.. i'll never be able to jump on board with that
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 @shwinn8: there's actually a real ligitimate reason. Taste buds work better at warm temps Smile
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 @shwinn8: canadiens too..or is it just whistler where u cant buy cold beer?
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 @kelownakona: Sainsbury's? Lol you're posh, it's Shepherd Neame he got it from Lidl
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 @kelownakona: Our beer used to suck but The US has beer going through a beer renaissance for the past 20 years or so. Come on over and try them out. So much good beer.
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 @kelownakona: Tesco's for the win and club card points. If I'm flush enough to shop at sainsbugs then it's a Bad King John or Maple moon. Two of my faves,
Glen coe stout an Harvistouns old engine oil are Scottish an hardly ever come south of the border. Special occasions I'm in the posh beer shops though, my fave beer, black bar Theory. Doesn't exist anymore, unless we can convince Joe to start brewing again
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 I'm personally a bit irritated by this "beer reneissance" or rather how local pubs are going with it. I sometimes go to McDonalds because it's fun. I buy Coke, Snickers, starbucks etc. i just like that stuff few times a month. Now, I really like Guiness, Murphys, Kilkenny or Erdinger and getting it starts to be a feat. At least in smaller pubs. Most of them run local microbreweries of which vast majority are sht. They went from serving disgusting piss like Carlsberg, to bitter, heavy crap, tasting like Chocolate Stout. Want an edgey IPA Let me brew you are really strong ginger tea and pour it into your bud, Yyyyyyh
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 @WAKIdesigns: sweden removed from to do list.
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 @jrocksdh: i will be honest with you. 90% of IPA tastes to me like pretentious shit. So I am biased. Not trying to crap on local scene but... I really do not like heavy bitter beer. Creamy, fruity, fresh, yes. But take beer bacon away from me
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: oh i see u were generalizing(worldwide) vs anti sweden. Well, there's fruity ipas, session ipas, sours, ales, creamy stouts/porters, and its all very fresh.
Chocolate covered bacon and a lil stout..goodnight
  • + 1
 @jrocksdh: God, my wallet and my liver are my witness: I did try plenty of IPAs, possibly 90% of what's available in my town (that is a lot) . I am this impossible freak that doesn't like it. The only satisfaction I get from it is how it can puzzle some people who like it. It's like saying: I don't like Downhill racing on Pinkbike. I honestly don't like to race and watch replays of top 10 on Redbull TV. Why? Because it's so fanboi charged. Like crossfit.
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 @WAKIdesigns: in pubs? In Sweden!? Your wallet is definitely your witness, holy shit.

I agree with you btw (to some degree at least). Most craft brewed IPAs (in the UK certainly) are over hopped horse piss. It's well trendy and brew house pubs are to now what wine/cocktail bars were to previous decades.

I disagree strongly re: WC DH tho! You are nuts! Even my wife enjoys the DH and she definitely doesn't have a dog in the race. It's gold right now, there is a level of competition and depth of talent you would be hard pushed to find in other sport, barring snooker obviously Wink
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 @alexhyland: I enjoy top10, maybe top20 Smile
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 As a guy that works in the Carbon composite industry.... It's breakable.
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 I'd like to have E-Bikes on a separate Homepage...let's call it Pink-E-bike.su.ks. I understand that they've been bought by some people but Roadies also don't like Moto GP reviews on their sites.
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 I don't intend to own an E bike, but I'm not sure why an Ebike made out of bamboo defeats the purpose. Is it because if you're going to make a pollution causing product like the manufacturing of lithium batteries on a bike then you might as well use non-environmentally friendly carbon is well? Just go all out?
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 They could just change the caption to " I think bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor seems to defeat the purpose"
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 @thisspock: they could have just made the caption "f*ck e bikes"
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 @thisspock @nfontanella: That bike is a commuter. Would you rather it was a car?
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 Imagine the fire when the battery goes.
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 Bamboo bikes are a thing in places where other materials are hard to get. Many boutique bamboo bikes have nothing to do with saving environment though. They use toxic resins to impregnate the fibers at the joints and they often use another toxis sht to clear coat them. Oh, we use organic hemp fibers for lugs! Really? What do you dip them into. Of a biodegradable resin. Guess what Plutonium is also biodegradable, it just takes fkng 15 000 years
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 Pigeon action group???

The name reminds me of the office episode where Andy texts Darrel about two pigeons eating an ice cream cone in the parking lot

"Crazy pigeon action"
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flag jrocksdh (Sep 2, 2017 at 9:05) (Below Threshold)
 Wtf?
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 @jrocksdh: it's a reference to the show "the office" US version
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 $400 for a coat!?
  • + 1
 you paid how much for your salsa?
  • + 9
 Yea no s**t! A $400 raincoat and it doesn't say Rapha on it. Who do these clowns think they are?
  • + 7
 yall obviously have never looked at arc'teryx...
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 It's goretex. That stuff is the balls for keeping you dry. I am a little concerned by the price though. I think you can get a full gortex jacket and pants good for 100mph winds for about the same price at bass pro. "Cycling specific" costs more. It's "specific".
  • - 1
 @AZRyder: Goretex is balls for keeping you dry. From the outside... for hiking... around 1h into the ride in Goretex e-vent jacket around +5 I get so wet from sweat I may as well have never put it on. I use ultralight nylon jacket that folds into fist sized bundle in case of torrential rain for getting the edge of cold, to create a form of wet diving suit. Other than that I use wool. I may be totally wet but I stay warm.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: Bingo! Ever tried some of the passive membrane's out there? I spend hours trying to explain to customers than waterproof rating is f*cking useless. A garbage bag is waterproof. Being able to breath is so much more critical. Can't handle goretex for riding, even somewhat higher intensity hiking.

Have a Sugoi NeoShell RSX jacket. Lower waterproof rating than your standard big boy membranes but man, I can actually ride a bike in it and stay so much dryer. Been pretty dang impressed. Membrane is is made by Polartech and is called NeoShell and it is legit.
  • - 2
 @bonfire: Goretex is weird. I have a really old Burton jacket which is tits. Coped with 400 merino, synthetic compression underlayer, it keeps me warm up to -5 and "breaths" just fine. Very light and versatile setup. But I have this gore e-vent jacket and it's cold and I feel it breaths worse than the burton. Also pants are fine for hiking, I love goretex shoes for colder wetter days. BUt goretex socks, or gloves?! I mean that's a fkng joke... merino coped with synthetic compression layer is the bees knees. Then super thin jacket just in case to protect from the wind.
  • + 3
 @kelownakona: on a side note, if you want cheap goretex gear army surplus waterproofs work well. Same goes for pretty much any practical outdoor gear.
  • + 1
 @kelownakona: I sell plenty of Merino wool stuff, and every year we get a tech lesson on it. In the key points of difference, it's all about keeps you cool when it's hots, warm when it's cold, doesn't stink, and is flame retardedant. I still prefer to not be sweaty and wet inside my jacket. I have found with some gore-tex (have yet to try new Active Shell) that I just feel like I'm going to catch fire under my coat while climbing. Just a hot sweaty uncomfortable mess.

@wakidesigns gore doesn't make E-vent. E-vent is a different company all together.

Gore makes a variety of membranes all with different attributes.
  • + 1
 @bonfire: i just checked my jacket. It's Haglöfs electric. Guy selling it to me said it's the more breathable one called e-vent. Well he lied. It doesn't say which membrane it is, just Gore-tex. Well, he sold it to me as unused for 125€, I didn't give much sht back then, now I don't either.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: fair enough. Gore make 3 commonly used membranes. With just Gore-Tex as their base membrane. Then paclite for ultra light jackets and ActiveShell (replaced Proshell) is their most breathable.

E-vent is an entirely different company all together making a waterproof/breathable membrane. Which was more breathable than proshell, but I am unsure where they stand these days. I haven't seen an e-vent jacket in ages.
  • + 9
 I heard next year the show will be renamed E-uro bike
  • + 8
 That "Alligator" is really funny if you imagine someone in full moto race kit, tucked in and...slowly pedaling.
  • + 1
 If you want to know more about this monstrosity, check out their website : www.motoparilla.it

Amongst other interesting features, can be found in the 'safety' part the following quote : "Carbon can stop instantly.
Since it is heavier, it won’t be blown away by other vehicles so easy".

The whole bike and website seem like a joke designed to entertain (or enrage) the pinkbike community. Even their presentation video is unbelievable, featuring some clumsy weird jerry trying to ride that thing. Priceless !
  • + 4
 The BS that is the recent Editorial direction of PB is exposed by their own submission and photo caption:

"I think bamboo bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor sort of defeats the point."

When taking the piss and dissing something, suddenly they acknowledge that its not "just pedal assist, and you but further, better, faster" but its a fulcn MOTOR.

Perhaps now they have stated that we can have that statement outthere, review the present coverage and consideration:

"I think [INSERT MTB CATEGORY HERE] bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor sort of defeats the point."

"I think enduro bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor sort of defeats the point."

"I think DH bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor sort of defeats the point."

"I think XC bikes are pretty cool, but adding a motor sort of defeats the point."
  • + 6
 Breaking surface of a braking disc sounds terrifying!!
  • + 21
 BHT Bikes: "our new downhill bike is unbreakable"
Minnar: "hold my beer..."
  • + 1
 Right? - When will editors learn?
  • + 6
 I gotta say, that Weed bike is dope!
  • + 1
 All that bashing in e-bikes, maybe there is just a cultural difference between Europe and the rest of the world regarding e-bikes. We just rides our (mountain) bikes different maybe, the main thing in Europe is that these bikes are bought to do home-work rides, to avoid congestion. Or by less physically trained people who still want to ride a bike...
Maybe e-bike is wrong in concept as name, it's a pedal assisted bike! You still have to pedal, you just don't sit still as on a motorcycle, so strictly speaking it still a bike
  • + 2
 Not to add fuel to the ebike fire but in my opinion the only acceptable reason m for them to be ridden is when people are at a physical disadvantage e.g. Heart problems, paralysed...etc
  • + 3
 If only this were enforceable haha
  • + 1
 I like to ask them about their 'disabilities' in friendly casual way. Of course they are normally just fat lazy bastards. I like trail trolling them.
  • + 5
 Can we stop pretending Enduro bearings are "highest quality"?!
  • + 1
 I second that!
  • + 1
 Did someone say enduro? Quick take my money
  • + 2
 Every time I ride my ebike I am pissed off about slow bikers without electric support in front off me. On long single track they just don't understand how annoying is this snail's milling for us - e-bikers....
  • + 1
 Maybe stick to road where you belong.... ?
  • + 2
 i have nothing against e bikes. But when im pedaling my pedal bike i dont say hi or get eye contact with e bike riders. They are not part of the mountain biking community. Not round here any ways.
  • + 1
 Everyone kind of needs to stop whinging on about e-bikes and accept they are going to be appearing more and more on trails. Majority of people whinging would probably more than happily accept an uplift to their favourite trails if it was on offer in some old pickup ripping it way up the forest tracks, so really what harm are these e-bikes really causing to the trails. The only harm really is it tends to be idiots with to much money who buy them and have no respect for trails or basic biking etiquette. That's not a bike issue, that's an issue of just annoying knoob riders.
  • + 1
 ebike not enough power for you? Crazy glue cranks onto your moto and presto, free reign to ride moto on hike and bike trails. Once you allow them on trail where's the line drawn on how much power you're allowed? eBikes are as lame as those scooters with pedals that I never see anyone pedal.
  • + 5
 Akira's DH bike.
  • + 5
 Blows kaneda's bike out of the water!
  • + 5
 I will not sleep tonight
  • + 1
 Rode the carbon bht demo bike at megavalanche last year. Proper weapon, proper heavy too. The creator made me tell him I was a 'bad boy' before he let it go..... Odd man but very cool. Hope he does well
  • + 4
 Die, E-bike. Back to the hell from which you came. Fucking gapers.
  • + 2
 Who here builds trails? If you do then I have a simple question: do you you build them so people can ride dirt bikes or ebikes on them?
  • + 2
 Damn right. But I'd like to see them go down some of the shit I've dug out in the local quarry.
  • + 3
 Here's an idea. Next year, let's design E-skis and see how Newschoolers feels about that.
  • + 0
 So to all the E-bike naysayers out there. How many of you ride 29? How many of you ride 27.5? How many of you ride dual suspension? go back in time twenty years and read what was said about them then. While you at it, go back 100 years and see what they said about the automobile. Go back 150 years and see what they said about the airplane. BTW, you may need to pull your heads out of your asses to do your research.....#pulloverorgetrunover
  • + 1
 You just raised lots of points that really have no valid comparison. Great job!
  • + 4
 ebike clothing......bloody hell....I hate ebikes even more now.
  • + 1
 I've been rocking an early production Shovel chainring for a season now and it's been bombproof despite the lack of weight and open bolt holes design. The wear is normal too. Those rotors look sick!!!
  • + 4
 More weed please
  • + 1
 it was made from 'organic' carbon.
caution : can cause you to fly high with this bike.
  • + 1
 bikes have always been weird..cool...but weird...going all the way back to the 19th century.
Why should that trend ever stop?
  • + 3
 taht bik e is knot unbrakable! it brokr my eyes
  • + 33
 And your keyboard, by the looks of it.
  • + 1
 Glad they're finally making hand protectors this was a problem for a client of mine he would need a new lever every six months.
  • + 3
 Good thing it didn't say ''Feathered Action Group''...
  • + 2
 PB posts e-bikes because all you wankers get in a knot about it. Get over it and they'll stop posting click bait.
  • + 4
 Volunteer for a trail day then tell me how you think about these lazy f**ks.
  • - 1
 @Super7: The trail managers and builders here ride e-bikes to carry their gear and get more meters of trail done in a day. You can get off your high horse and out of your builder bubble.
  • - 1
 @bonfire: Same here but they also whine that using premium trail tools for the day made their hands hurt and were too heavy (this ones too hard, this ones too soft, ahhh this ones just right). Explains how the trail standard has gone and the intensity of trails diminished since the new wave and big MTB took over.
  • + 1
 @bonfire: and here in BC we ride dirt bikes and use pickups to get gear up to the worksite. That's a nonsensical argument. If all ebikes were used for trail building this thread wouldn't exist. As for getting off my high horse...that's just rude.
  • + 2
 Unbrealable carbon DH bike, meet Greg Minnar's leg.
  • + 1
 Love Peaty !! true legend , but that sealant display looks like cat litter box
  • + 2
 Skull face is the best use of carbon fiber on a bicycle I've ever seen! Big Grin
  • + 1
 I knew a pretty girl from Marseille, they must have modeled the bike after her. #unbreakable
  • + 1
 If you have a Ebike you are automatically a vape-lord, a fuckboy, a piece of shit, and a fag. I hate those things lmfao
  • + 1
 "Ya, know? My bike sure would look better and I'd ride a lot faster with some hand-guards." Said no one - ever.
  • + 1
 That bamboo bike has a suspension seatpost. Man I haven't seen one of those in ages!
  • + 1
 E Bikes are for cheaters! So are Gondola's and Shuttles! Power to the pedals!
  • + 2
 I order 3 litres of Peaty's load
  • + 8
 Let us know how it goes...down
  • - 2
 @jrocksdh: let's hope doesn't eat asparagus too often..
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: He seems more like a pineapple guy
  • - 1
 @sancho-ramerez: it's bubbly from all the Stella piss
  • + 2
 Caption N/A
  • + 1
 TBH wins for best head badge ever.
  • + 2
 BHT. Autocorrect + no edit function...
  • + 1
 @robwhynot: if you click the desktop site button at the bottom your comment will have an edit button next to it for about 2-3 minutes.
  • + 1
 Where are all the cycloccross this year? xD
  • + 1
 craziest thing to my eyes was the bamboo bmx
  • + 1
 Ah great, more one-n-done gloves!
  • + 1
 Mr.Wolf made me laugh so hard, thanks. Just so over the top.
  • + 1
 "You're going for a bike ride?" "Only to the moon at 9000mph, be back in 45 seconds"
  • + 1
 That Crabon dh bike has a built in cricket box...
  • + 1
 Unbreakable carbon DH bike, meet Greg Minnar's leg.
  • + 1
 "Unbreakable" the phrase nobody uses to sell anything. I don't even want to be the guy around that hears, "unbreakable", it's the equivalent of the thing you're buying desintegrating before your eyes.
  • + 1
 Or just have fun on the trails and respect your peers.... whatever Wink
  • + 1
 i want that acros bike -please finish it and give me a ring
  • + 1
 I would love a weed
  • + 1
 sometimes you have to smoke the Jeffery
  • + 0
 Ride and let ride to all the ebike haters
  • + 0
 Is that DH bike at the top, an e- bike?
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