Nukeproof Horizon Pedals

Jan 22, 2017 at 0:48
by Paul Aston  

Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


Compared to the vast array of flat pedals, choice in the clipless pedal market is restricted, even though the range of clippy compatible shoes massively outnumbers flat pedal sneakers. Shimano's classic SPD system, Crankbrothers, Time and more recently HT have been your suppliers of choice, with aggressive options using a large platform or cage with pins for traction being very rare. Nukeproof have stepped into this niche with a duo of platforms for you to get your cleats into. Will 2017 be the year of Sam Hill clipping in to accelerate him to Enduro World Series glory? We have a pair in the post for testing, but for now you can read the press release below. - Paul Aston







Since our inception, Nukeproof has been synonymous with high-quality innovative components. Components blending high-quality materials like titanium and Carbon, with products like Bombshell hubs and Carbon bars. These values are as true today as they were in 1990 creating components that we want to ride.


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


In 2015 we released our Horizon Pro and Comp pedal range – a project jointly developed with Sam Hill. The aim; to provide the ultimate flat pedal platform. This was our starting point for Horizon, using our experienced athlete and development team to create class leading products. Horizon has no boundaries, Horizon will allow you to perform to your potential and chase the edge of performance.

Introducing the latest addition to the Horizon range: Horizon CL and Horizon CS.

Designed and developed in-house to meet our exacting standards, taking input and influence from our elite athletes including; Matti Lehikoinen and Mike Jones. The New CL and CS take inspiration from our ultra successful Horizon Pro pedal. Developed featuring our unique platform, offering confidence inspiring feel with a secure, easy engagement mechanism.



Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals

Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


The CL is the larger of the two platforms designed as a more gravity focused pedal, with the smaller caged CS model designed towards the trail customer.

Tech info:

Axle System:

Both Horizon CL and CS use our proven axle system utilizing a combination of sealed cartridge bearings and DU bushes to provide a super durable and easily serviceable assembly.


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


PROVEN AXLE SYSTEM

As with the Horizon Pro we produced the 6061 Aluminium body using a cold forged process which equips the pedal with high strength Vs weight characteristics due to its optimized grain structure. This is not achievable with more common cast or machined pedal chassis. The Q factor (55mm) of the pedals will not change between the CS and CL and is designed to be compatible with 142mm/148mm/150mm rear axles.


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


The 6061 Aluminium chassis has been cleverly engineered and designed to accommodate a multitude of shoe profiles (Black outline is the CL and Green the CS). The sloping toe edge prevents obstruction during engagement, reduces weight and protects the bindings and mechanism from strikes with rocks and obstacles.


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


LOW PROFILE CONTOURED CHASSIS

The Horizon CL and CS have a large pedal to shoe contact area either side of the mechanism. This is designed to add stability when engaged, maximizes power transfer and provides a flat pedal feel inspiring confidence for riders of all abilities.


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


SIDE SUPPORT PLATFORM

Riders can tailor the traction pins to offer varying levels of grip depending on preference by simple adjustment of the pin heights or removing pins completely through removal of the washers supplied. (6 pins on the CL model/ 4 Pins on the CS model).


OPTIMISED LEADING EDGE

Our unique chassis profile and clever placement of the pins and have led the way for a contoured leading edge to help deflect rock strikes and obstacle impacts away from the mechanism and riders foot.


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


DUAL ENGAGEMENT CLEAT

The Nukeproof cleat is profiled with front and rear ramped edges offers a seamless engagement with the mechanism in all riding conditions. Spring-loaded front and rear bindings enable the rider to engage from all directions (forwards, backwards and above). Spring tension can be adjusted via a 3mm hex key offering varying levels disengagement force.

There will be two versions of the cleat available with a varying degree of float form +4 (supplied with pedal) to +8 degrees. This cleat system is unique to Nukeproof, but does support SPD devices.
Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals


All Pedals will be available in 4 colors: Black, Red, Blue and Copper

nukeproof.com

UK Retail (Prices correct at going to Press):


Pro (Flat Pedal):
CL Ti:
CL:
CS Ti:
CS:
Cleats:
Pins:

Weights (Per Pair):

Pro:
CL:
CL Ti:
CS:
CS Ti:

£79.99
£186.99 (TBC)
£99.99
£186.99 (TBC)
£99.99
£10.99
£10.99



430g
526g
430g
432g
352g


Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals

Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals
Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals

Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals

Nukeproof Horizon CS and CL Pedals



MENTIONS: @Nukeproofinternational





122 Comments

  • + 194
 Sam Hill does not clip in to pedals. Pedals clip on to Sam.
  • + 78
 Sam Hill doesn't ride down hill... hills move out of Sam's way
  • + 64
 Sam Hill doesn't find grip. Grip finds him.
  • - 36
flag Shiny-side-up Plus (Jan 22, 2017 at 4:11) (Below Threshold)
 @chyu: I wont mention '08 worlds
  • + 94
 Sam didn't go enduro. Enduro went Sam hilling
  • + 37
 Sam does not dial wrong numbers. You just answered the wrong phone.
  • + 54
 Chuck Norris wears Sam Hill pajamas
  • + 103
 Sam Hill wears a full face to protect the rocks.
  • - 4
flag stumpymidget (Jan 22, 2017 at 8:52) (Below Threshold)
 @Shiny-side-up: You just did.
  • + 7
 ^sam hill said you're a twat.
  • + 2
 NOT Sam Hill approved
  • + 65
 Sam Hill on a 29er with clip-less pedals for 2017? #whenhellfreezesover
  • + 7
 2018 it's gonna be carbon... good lord!
  • + 2
 We already passed the stage of Liquid Metal, somewhere Smile LOL .... 2018 will be a different business, watch out, ahahahaha
  • - 10
flag torero (Jan 22, 2017 at 11:51) (Below Threshold)
 "Sam Hill" died in 2010.
  • + 44
 what in the sam hill is goin on here??
  • + 23
 Why have Shimano never made a Saint SPD pedal to replace the old 636's...they'd sell like hot cakes IMHO
  • + 4
 I've been waiting for a couple of years now.... Too late, this one seems exactly like what I wanted, plus there's 4 colors! And seems pretty cheap versus others similar pedals! Smile
  • + 1
 @Timo82: I think I read somewhere they've been testing some recently
  • + 1
 @ThomDawson: They said that almost 2 years ago with proto pictures.... I didn't buy Mallet or any others because of that but now that I have bought 5ten kestrel lace, I really need new pedals with pins to fit with! Razz
  • + 1
 @ThomDawson: I don't know if thats what you're talking about but...April 2015! lol

www.pinkbike.com/news/shimano-pedal-dh-prototype-lourdes-world-cup.html
  • + 3
 @Timo82: possibly...since we had a kid my memory has turned to shit! I did have a feeling somebody else mentioned them more recently but I don't haven anything to back that up :-S
  • + 4
 @Timo82: thankfully shimano doesn't expect their customers to pay to be the R&D lab like most manufacturers do!!!
  • + 4
 What if you had hot cakes, and they were selling fast, how would you tell someone how well they were selling?!?!?!?
  • + 1
 @unrooted: lol Yeah shimano would be cheaper and more reliable (no maintenance at all on my 2008 dx!!) but if I convert those nukeproof pedals in cad dollars, it is still cheaper than CB, HT, DMR, etc.
  • + 2
 @Timo82: I know Shimano have a reputation for getting things right before they release them, but nearly TWO years since prototype pics have been seen...way to go to procrastinate, Mr.S!
  • + 13
 "This cleat system is unique to Nukeproof, but does support SPD devices. "

Does that mean I can use SPD cleats with the Nukeproof pedals, or Nukeproof cleats with SPD pedals, or both?
  • + 2
 The cleats shown above are SPD Cleats NP did not bother to create their own. And why reinvent the wheel?
  • + 2
 @zaskarHH: It says it's their own cleat, doesn't it?
  • + 4
 @Gweggy: we have our 2 of our own cleat designs offering +4 and +8 degrees of float. These differ from the standard Shimano clear to allow a multi point entry to the pedal and the desired float. A +4 degree will be supplied with the Horizon CL and CS with +8 as an option.
  • + 12
 @Nukeproofinternational: So will Spd cleats work?
  • + 11
 to quote Sam Hill "nah"
  • + 5
 It's awesome seeing some of the CAD and section views from the design process! Love seeing that stuff, good on you Nukeproof!
  • + 4
 Sam Hill has his own signature pedals and shoes to match... I don't think he would give up both to move to the dark side (clip pedals)
  • + 5
 Its about time someone put a proper (clipless) gravity focused pedal on the market
  • + 20
 Hey what about crank broth...oh wait, yeah you're right.
  • + 30
 The problem is they all use Shimano SPD or SPD-ish interface which isn't the best for gravity riding. So they all make sweet cages and axles but the core still sucks. The only thing SPD is good at compared to Time and Crank BRos is easyness of clipping in. The major flaws of SPD are little float and high risk of unintentional release. You must tighten the pedals very hard to make sure you don't clip out in the middle of a rock garden, when cornering with one foot out. And then when you tighten them up, it gets hard to clip out at all. Float cannot be ignored, it makes it easier to manipulate the bike in corners, is easier on knees and ankles, and minimizes the risk of unintentional clip out. It may be the regular personal preference bollocks, but what do you base your preference on? I spent a long time on each of three systems and Times win it for me even though they are not perfect. What Times suck at is cages. I wish someone made a Mallet cage around Time system. CBros are sweet but they are unreliable and it is very hard to clip out on techy climbs.

The fact that most pros use mallets despite being poorly engineered product, that very few use Shimano (despite being sponsored by them) is a clear sign that something's up. Even HTs have more float than SPD.

Please, someone make Time system with a decent cage with pins.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: The problem is, they use interface... Wink
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: +1000 the same thing like in alpine ski float is the must have and SPD is not the one with it.
  • + 2
 Good points all, Waki. CB are not very well put together, heavy and very expensive. I wish shimano had some baggy cleats that made the interface feel more ball-like.
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: actually got it spot on, i use times and the system is the best i've tried and i used to run SPD and have run crankbrothers for like a week but the cages on them are the let downs, a time pedal with a mallet platform would be insane
  • + 0
 In my mind, one of the biggest advantages of the Crankbrothers mechanism is, that you can clip in from the front and back. There have been lots of moments where I failed to clip in before a gnarly section and just put the cleat somewhere in front the spring to survive the section and managed to move it back until it clipped in. If that works with the Nukeproof pedals as well, I'm very interested, as they don't have one of the major CB flaws, which is, that the mechanism can be opened from a rock hitting the underside of a pedal. I nearly smashed my balls on my seat because of that during a race run once. Mud clearance won't be as good, but that's mostly annoying during practice as you don't normally put your foot on the ground in a race...
  • + 1
 @Gweggy: mallets are great for DH but iI have hurt myself too many times when not being able to clip out in a tech uphill. I actually fkd up something in my elbow and can't support on it when working by the computer desk. Some nerve pain after I tipped t the side and landed elbow on the handlebar. The problem is that once the one crankarm is down you cannot unclip because the tip of the shoe gets locked against the crank arm. Times do do it to me to but extremely rarely.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Really? You must have huge feet or really wide shoes, I never had that problem. It was narrow with my Mallet 3 pedals and Shimano AM shoes, but with the cleat all the way inboard it worked. With my 5.10 Impact VXi or Specialized shoes it's no problem at all! Mallet DHs have a much wider Q-factor anyway.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I had this same problem with CB but found it only happened when the cleats were getting very worn. After some physical punishment I learned to replace the cleats more often and this seemed to end these painful events for me.
  • + 1
 @benviebikes: it may be the case. I'll give the latest ones a try
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: aren't Mavic using the Time interface?
  • + 3
 @gonecoastal: not really. They use the whole pedal to put their own logo on it Smile
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: The advantage of the SPD system lies in its pivoting interface. Having the tip of the cleat engaged into the clipping mechanism is way easier in a pivoting cage pedal. I'm running my fourth set of VP 133-DH pedals in 20 years, and I've defaulted to them after trying a set of Shimano M-530 and a set of Enduro HTs.

Crank Brothers mimics the pivoting interface via their "wings", but Time and the rest of the brands making platform clipless pedals can't simply match the easyness of clipping of the old 636s or my 133-DHs.

Now about the amount of float, you can fine tune it by mixing and matching cleats from different brands. I came to get a decent amount of side and angular float by using Ritchey cleats with my VP pedals.
  • + 2
 @southoftheborder: I did mix the cleats. Multi release Wellgos were the best with my PD424 (set to max tension). Proper Shimano ones paired with Deore Trail pedals (and stiff Shimano XC shoes) were the worst of all. I do agree, it is easiest to clip in with (clean) Shimanos, but this is where positives end. You can get used to clip into Times and do it as well as with Shimanos. I'm very veeery good at finding the clit eee cleat.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: you never unclipped accidentally with m424s at max tension and multi release cleats? How about shimano sh56 multirelease - tried those?
  • + 1
 The scariest part of spds is how easily they unclip on jumps. Only made it through 3 rides with my spds before I went right back to mallets
  • + 1
 @thook: It's funny how I heard that you can unclip easily on CB so I decided to keep it safe with my shimanos!? lol
  • + 1
 @BryceBorlick: off course I did. But if limited to Shimano then it was still the best compromise from what I've tried. Defo better than regular shimano cleats killing my ankles.

Another great bit about CB and Times coped with 5.10 shoes: cleats are so small that you can easily use flat pedals. Lets you keep one less pair of shoes at home.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: living in a third-world country made Times unattainable both economically and practically, but I've heard they really shine in mud.

The M530s (Deore Trails as you named them) were absolutely horrendous in our wet winters, and that convinced me to buy my fourth set of beloved 133-DHs. Maybe the VP clipping mechanism is more open than the Shimano one, maybe the Ritchey or Exustar cleats were easier in the mud, maybe I've grown accustomed to the mud and SPD combo...

I liked the Mallets, but going through a set of cleats every three months is f*cking retarded.

I'll try to get a fix on a set of Time or Mavic pedals and then we'll compare experiences.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I really like my Mallet 3s. I have used them and Eggbeaters for years with my Sidi Dragons with no problems. The last two seasons I have been wearing Shimano AM-45 (clown) shoes because I wanted more foot protection and surface area contact. Now I do have that problem of the shoe getting locked against the crank arm. As much as I have liked the AM-45, my next pair of shoes will have a narrower profile.
  • + 1
 @thook: I've had no issue on ALine, Dirty and Freight Train with SPDs
  • + 2
 I have had this problem a few times too. You're riding up a slick tech climb with your seat up your arse, wheelspin, totter, oh shit I'm overbalancing, try to slip off the side of the seat and you can't get your feet out! Very embarrassing! Makes you look like a right dentist.
  • + 1
 @jaame: like a Cullen (read Colin)
  • - 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Times release unintentionally all the time too. Or maybe you don't jump.
Waki no jump?
They are shit. Shimano is still better. At least you can turn them up tighter. Times you can only make them looser.
They're Clip pedals by the way.
The ones that you clip to. Clips
The ones you just stand on that don't make clipping noises. Clip less.
Evolve people.
  • - 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Waki you just proved it.
You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
Anyone who thinks you can get away with using clip shoes on flat pedals is a complete muppet.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: your reference of what pros use is an interesting one.
Crank brothers is obviously better than shimano because more pros use them. But absolutely nobody uses Times and they're the best?
Weirdo
  • + 3
 I didn't say what is the best, I said it depends and that Shimanos are lesser to both CS and Times due to lack of float. And I can clearly see why many DH pros use Mallets DESPITE being sponsored by Shimano. I have never clipped out from Time unintentionally as long as my cleats were not worn out completely. but what do I know. Thank you, golden shower always helps me go through the monday afternoon.
  • + 2
 @jflb: the term "clipless" refers to the toeclip-and-strap pedals we were riding before SPD's came along. SPDs did away with the toe-clips, hence "clipless pedals".
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I guess you're not a big fan of Shimano. Honestly I guess Shimano designed it like that because of they don't want users to damage their ligaments just for being too glued to the pedal. With all the torsional friction under stress of unclipping or when falling would be a huge responsibility and law punishments for a company if their worldwide cleats wouldn't open in time or when needed. Try to understand this and then pass over and choose whatever you want from the market. I personally tried mallets and their rolling cage and mostly 9/10 unsuccessful unlock made me skip over and sold them fast. Never tried Time system but I was curious to test some of the systems from the 90's experiments. I heard there where even son magnetic clips in those days. Ideal clipless are the ones that centers the clip automatically stays inside no matter what and opens at the right twist of the foot.
  • + 2
 Being clipped in on DH is a committed feel for sure...but the security of keeping your feet right where you want them feels great. Sometimes it's rough to adjust your feet on flats while screaming down hill through bumpsome. I guess thatso way riders in DH WC chose clips. I ride both and see each benifits for what it is.
  • + 6
 How much!?
  • + 5
 @RedBurn: As in sarcasm... double the price of Dx's
  • + 1
 My thoughts as well. When I did the GBP to NZD conversion I was like wholey sh*t that's expensive.
  • + 2
 The release makes it clear Hill developed the flat Horizons, while Matti Lehikoinen and Mike Jones helped develop the clipless version.
  • + 2
 The clipless market is limited apparanlty. Really? Every bike I've ever had has been clipless with a different brand of pedal each time. And they were the right colour too!!
  • + 5
 Good looking pedals!
  • + 1
 Agree, shame they don't clip with Shimano clips... A bit expensive, I think Frown
  • + 7
 @jefftrancex1xtr: ''This cleat system is unique to Nukeproof, but does support SPD devices''
  • + 1
 @Timo82: @Timo82: that's a good news, thanks a lot for the info. Is there any other article to confirm that, out of Pinkbike, please ??
I got 4 pairs of shoes (summer, winter, waterproof, etc blablabla) . So it will be great not having to swap stuff (Y) Smile
  • + 3
 @jefftrancex1xtr: Hi, we can confirm that the pedals are compatible with the Shimano SPD, so no need to swap lots of cleats out!
  • + 1
 @Nukeproofinternational: Thank you very much, when are they available in the Market??
I can't find them in CRC, (for example)
Regards
  • + 2
 @jefftrancex1xtr: hoping to get a select amount into our retailers in about 4-6 weeks. Will try and get dealers ready to take pre-orders for the first batch!
  • + 3
 Now we just need more clipless shoes with the cleat slot closer to the center of the foot.
  • + 1
 spot on" with that one.
  • + 1
 Do some doodles of Shimano DX BMX pedals from back in the day and then call that your design said nearly every pedal maker in the industry
  • + 4
 Shimano DX
  • + 2
 Are they going to make a plastic version, because their plastic flats have the best price/weight ratio.
  • + 0
 "even though the range of clippy compatible shoes massively outnumbers flat pedal sneakers"

Are you sure bro?
Are ya realllly sure.
  • + 1
 All I know is that those copper/grayish black pedals are seriously good looking.
  • + 1
 Who lets their mill get that rusty!
  • + 0
 Shimano M530 bulletproof, about $30 some bucks, Nukeproof way, way overpriced.
  • + 0
 Sorry but flats all the way for me you can't pull a superman back flip in these haha..
  • + 15
 and you can superman backflip??
  • + 2
 Okay nice yeah
  • + 1
 Nuke proof and clips? What is this blasphemy
  • + 1
 I thought Clips were against their Religon
  • + 2
 We've learnt to be tolerant to most mountain bike related relgions ????
  • + 2
 FLATS FOR LIFE FTW!!!!
  • + 1
 I just got the Sam Hill Horizon flat pedals, they are fantastic.
  • + 2
 @prb007 Shimano PD-M647
  • + 1
 Wow these CL pedals could be winners. Cant wait!!
  • + 1
 Hold up bro! So duro!
  • + 0
 Look like a shimano XT bro
  • + 1
 Come on Man...Carbon!!!
  • - 3
 Sam Hill clipping in will definitely slow him down!
  • - 2
 no
  • + 3
 Not sure Sam knows slow
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