Vali Holl's YT Tues DH Bike - Leogang DH World Cup 2018

Jun 7, 2018 at 9:57
by Paul Aston  



There have been murmurings of new world-beater from Austria for a few years now – a girl from Saalbach beating the elite women's race times on the IXS European circuit when she was as young as thirteen. Vali Höll, who's now seventeen, has destroyed the first two World Cup races of the year, winning the junior category by a country mile; in Fort William, she posted a time that would have been fourth in elite.

For 2018, Vali is riding under the SRAM umbrella with frames from YT Industries. The young talent has also signed for Red Bull this year, and also rides for TLD, Oakley, DT Swiss, Maxxis, and Ergon. The week before Fort William, Vali took delivery of the newest iteration of the YT Tues downhill rig and stomped it to a 30-second victory.

bigquotes[On Fort William] I didn't expect it actually. I was so blown away. I thought maybe I could sneak into the top five (in elite) at Leogang, but not in Fort William because you need so much experience for that track.Vali Höll



Vali Holl Bike Check


• 17 years old
• 2018 medium-sized frame
• Full SRAM build
• 760mm handlebar
• 1.6 bar (24 psi) front; 1.7 bar (25 psi) rear
• Marshguard F***Flat inserts front and rear
@valihoell


Vali Holl Bike Check


Not one to join the wheel size debate, Vali is riding a stock 27.5" wheeled Tues. It's a medium-sized frame that's slightly longer than the medium from last year, to which she said, "I thought it would be harder to get around the corners, but it is just way better. I feel more comfortable now."


Vali Holl Bike Check
A 760mm wide Descendant handlebar and 50mm stem.
Vali Holl Bike Check
Senderella


bigquotesI was always riding an 800mm handlebar when I was a kid because that's what was on the bike. When I went to Tennesee with SRAM, they were like "what are you doing with that bar!?" and they cut it down to 760mm. It is way better now.Vali Höll

Vali Holl Bike Check


Vali Holl Bike Check
The all-new Assegai tire from Maxxis leads the charge...
Vali Holl Bike Check
... with a Minion DHR II rear tire. 24psi front and 25psi rear.


Vali Holl Bike Check
More Truvativ Descendant components, with the seatpost that's topped with an SMD2 titanium-railed saddle from Ergon.


Vali Holl Bike Check
The drivetrain is a standard X01 DH 7-speed affair from SRAM.

bigquotesWe went to Tennesee with all the SRAM guys to test the new BoXXer before it was released; it was my first time to really spend time testing small details. I was a bit afraid that I could not give the feedback they want to hear, but it was really cool and easy to do and interesting to get started with that. We ended up running the same set up from there at the first two races, and even though Croatia and Scotland are completely different, it worked out pretty well.Vali Höll

Vali Holl Bike Check
Brake wise, Vali has polished Code RSC lever bodies, with BlackBox carbon levers...
Vali Holl Bike Check
...matched with red Code calipers.


Vali Holl Bike Check

bigquotesIt is definitely a learning process. I have no f***ing idea what is happening inside a fork when you turn this or click that, or add PSI. I hope SRAM are patient with me, please...Vali Höll

Vali Holl Bike Check
Vali Holl Bike Check


Fork: RockShox BoXXer World Cup DebonAir

• Stock cartridge, fully open LSC and HSC,
• 130psi
• -11 Reb
• 3x Bottomless Tokens
• Sag: not measured
Shock: RockShox Vivid R2C

• Custom tuned
• 225lb spring
• Sag: 30%


bigquotesI used to work with my sister, Chloe, who is still racing, and I think it is similar with Vali. Working with girls and bikes is different to the guys! We started working with Vali in Tennesee at the BoXXer camp. We spent a whole week learning about how each other works. The main thing for me was to see what she was doing on the bike; she always said everything was fine, but I wanted to figure out what was good and bad visually.

Apart from that, it is funny because we are riding exactly same size bike, similar setup, although she is lighter than me I can pretty much set the bike up at home before I get to the race, try different shim stacks or whatever, to keep trying to go in one direction. The shock is a fully custom tune that I have done; a different shim stack made for her and the bike.

I learned a lot working with Nico [Vouilloz] and Adrien [Dailly] at Lapierre for three years after I raced World Cup for seven years. I think I can help with all aspects of her racing and I'm trying to help her with the process at each race that we can keep the same.
Mathieu Gallean - SRAM Mechanic

Vali Holl Bike Check
Mattieu Gallean is a pinner in his own right after racing World Cups for seven years, as well as being Vali's mechanic under the SRAM awning.



MENTIONS: @YTIndustries




112 Comments

  • + 203
 Senderella could be the best word I've ever heard of, what a human.
  • - 73
flag SnowshoeRider4Life (Jun 7, 2018 at 17:55) (Below Threshold)
 Yes. Slow clap for that one.
  • + 0
 I LOVE HER !!!
  • + 0
 Seems legit.
  • + 13
 @Smilicito: seems like ur movn kinda fast but hey, this is dh racing world right
  • + 25
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: Upset because you had it on your bike first?
  • + 1
 there's a nor cal trail named this. not sure who came up with it or when tho.
  • + 2
 Anyone know where we can get Senderella stickers? My partner would love them for her bike!
  • + 10
 it was my idea, my name is Kathi Kuypers, just message me on instagram, I will send you some stickers! @kathikuypers @c2crider:
  • + 0
 @TGGKathi: Cheers Kathi - will fire you an insta message!
  • + 0
 @Poulsbojohnny: I'm not sure how i'm getting negative props lolol. I wasn't being facetious with that post. that was congratulatory.
  • + 5
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: I think you need to lookup 'Slow Clap'.... It's normally a way of heckling and to show you are disapproving of something.... So basically, you got a slow clap for your slow clap comment.
  • - 3
 @bigtim: maybe. but also its used a lot states side as a congratulatory one. "A gradual building of applause, usually starting with one person clapping slowly, and ending with an enthusiastic standing ovation"
  • + 1
 @bigtim: Look up "Slow clap Lucas Corey Haim. It can be a way to honor someone as well. As in no one expected to be so impressed with something, so they slowly start clapping, then some other people hesitantly join in, then it becomes a true round of applause as the group agrees and starts applauding.
  • + 1
 How bad was the diarrhea from that Tennesee BBQ?
  • + 48
 YT signs all the best people. It's actually insane. Whomever makes these personnel decisions deserves a raise.
  • - 8
flag andydhteam (Jun 7, 2018 at 18:08) (Below Threshold)
 Martin whiteley...
  • + 23
 @andydhteam: She's on the SRAM team, not the YT Mob. Though it doesn't seem so unlikely that she will surely be a part of it in the near future.
  • - 1
 Not to mention they hired two laguna Rads(Hanson brothers).
  • - 1
 Whoever it is, they are really Talented
  • - 3
 Dont understand why everyone is neg proping martin??
  • + 2
 @andydhteam: because he has nothing to do with the question asked. He runs the YT Mob team. He is only responsible for that roster of riders. I think the op was asking who makes the calls on the riders who are on YT across the board, like Lacondaguy,Lunn, Zink,Warner... etc.
  • + 0
 @nickkk: martin whiteley has alot more to do with just running the yt mob his history goes back years and years and he doesnt alot of behind the scenes stuff for this sport. I cant speak of the others but i do know that warner and Martin are good friends and rob actually contacted yt and asked for a yt sponsorship thats how he got it.
  • - 1
 @andydhteam: aye, i know who MW is and his work over 20+ odd years of WCDH with teams and the UCI. That him and Warner are friends doesn't suggest anything about him helping Rob get a ride on YT so I'm not sure what your point is there. Regardless, Martin Whitley still ISN'T the guy signing up riders to ride for YT which is the point of the question.. I suspect they have all been approached by YT in the traditional sense as racers or brand ambassadors. As the OP mentioned, they have a very diverse range of talent on their roster.
  • + 4
 She will go to Specialized first. Just like all footballer end up at Real Madrid.
  • + 1
 @chyu: Or at the Barça... Wink
  • + 1
 @chyu: Hopefully not after riding that Tues. Here's hoping.
  • + 2
 @cool3: Or Manchester United
  • + 1
 They have such a stacked lineup.they have come such a long way in 10 years! They got their bikes dialed, And some of the best pros to ever ride a bike riding for them.
  • + 38
 They cut her bars? They must never come on PB, nothing besides 800+ is any good.
  • + 1
 Someone out of pro-camp actually talking about cutting bars to below 780 mm. That'll turn the sport upside down...!
  • + 36
 Most of us humble riders just twist dials and pump the volume spacers in and call it 'suspension tuning'
  • + 18
 It's like.. .Bike DJing !
  • + 26
 I don't get this thing with red/orange forks...
  • + 20
 Honestly all the red rockshox forks look like crap to me
  • + 3
 I hope to god that Manitou brings back the old Manitou 3, 4 and EFC graphics! That would be so cool and unique.. Do it Manitou, do it!
  • + 10
 pretty sure it's a 20 years of the boxxer thing, which was originally only available in red. it's marketing that the sponsored riders are probably under contract to run this season to tie in with the anniversary - gets people talking in hopes of more interest and sales.
  • + 0
 @literally: ya but it's totally derivative of the fox marketing ploy, which would be ok if the fork looked great but it doesn't. Marketing/graphic design fail.
  • + 11
 i honestly love it!
The black forks on nice colored bikes always remind me of the unpainted black front bumpers when some teangers try to "Tune" their Honda Civics...

i.pinimg.com/originals/75/0b/94/750b9491600518acf120752c1f36e34b.jpg

I wish there was more color options to choose from. I would love a blue on for my bike...
  • + 0
 I cannot wait until this awkward color fork thing has past!
  • + 5
 No accounting for taste with you lot. Those red forks are hot!
  • + 1
 @michibretz: there is nothing bad about colorful forks in case color looks good on bike but usually we see opposite picture
  • + 4
 @freestyIAM: they're copying fox from a couple years ago. Fox was copying RS from 20 years ago.

How dare RS bring back their OG colors?!?!
  • + 2
 @michibretz: Black also look bad on forks. White is the perfect color for a fork. Fox, MZ and RS has always look best in white
  • + 2
 @Startgas: Many colors to choose from would be perfect Wink

I got a read and blue bike. i wouldn't mind a red fork, my black one looks... well unfinished, but if it came with a white one i would have already stopped over at the autobody shop next door for a layer of paint...
  • + 23
 Officially a fan, she’s rad as f*ck on and off the bike!
  • + 6
 Same here. When I raced against her in Saalbach on the Pumptrack and she beat me by a huge margin (being just 13 years old), I knew she would kill it in the future. And such a sportswoman. Keep it up! Big Grin
  • + 16
 On another note, I hope the ORV (Austrian Cycling Federation) petitions the UCI to have Vali race in Elites next year. There is precedence for this as it has been allowed quite a few times in the past. The ORV just needs to make this request in writing and I'm optimistic that the UCI will reply with a derogation letter allowing it.


I can imagine having winning margins of half a minute (or more) is demoralizing to the rest of her peers. Also, exposing Vali to elite competition will help develop her into an even better racer. Ultimately, moving Vali up benefits both the junior riders and Vali herself.
  • + 1
 Serious question, what stops her from just moving up to Elites on her own next year if she does well this year? I honestly do not know how all that stuff works, but would be very interested to understand it better.
  • + 1
 @neologisticzand: UCI rules mandate that a junior/youth racer joins the appropriate age category by default. Moving to an older/higher category is an exception which has to be initiated by the racer's national cycling federation and then decided upon by the UCI.
  • + 13
 It's awesome that the women's side of world cup DH is as rad as it is this year!
  • + 12
 You know you've made it when your mechanic wears a Nico Vouilloz seal of approval lol
  • + 10
 Specialized is probably registering "Senderella" as a trade mark as we speak.
  • + 6
 This young lady is awesome in so many ways. I love the way she is exploding the myth about female disadvantage on bikes. For too long we have expected female riders to under achieve when it shouldn't be the case. We've blamed lack of courage on lack of testosterone. Vali is clearly a fantastic, talented rider but her skills were obviously honed on the perfect environment and she took the fight to the boys at the races rather than being content to be a big fish in a little pond. Why don't we expect girls to throw whips?! Vali absolutely rocks. Fly high Senderella!
  • + 3
 There is a video on her that I watched a while back. Her home has trails out the back door and her parents are avid riders if I remember correctly. Add some natural talent and BAM! Good to see her improving and growing.
  • + 8
 It's not a myth it's reality. Women will never compete with the best males, it's a physical impossibility due to biology and anyone who thinks otherwise is smoking something. Im fed up listening to this nonsense. She is an awesome rider but could she compete with the Gwins and Hills of this world? No chance.
  • + 1
 10/10 status signalling
  • + 4
 I remain stumped how suspension basics elude so many riders. Twist the red dial to one extreme, compress the fork, take note of changes. Twist red dial to other extreme, compress the fork, take note of changes. Repeat for blue dial(s). It's literally that easy.
  • + 39
 Theres a big difference I think from what most of us "think" is the right amount of tuning vs. properly tuned suspension is.
  • + 36
 I typically just adjust things til they feel different. F*ck knows if it's better.
  • - 1
 @nofear259: what is properly tuned suspension? If racing World Cups it’s one thing, riding Rampage it’s another. It’s all personal preference.
  • + 12
 I just set everything in the middle as i assume they design suspension for average riders like myself
  • + 4
 @ThePM: I'd say a better rule of thumb is to proportionally increase compression damping relative to rider weight
  • + 1
 @freestyIAM: Thanks for the tip. Much appreciated
  • + 2
 Not sure who said it, but hard as hell and go fast enough for it to feel good, works. Right?
  • + 3
 @nofear259: True, but you're speaking to something else. I am responding to her quote "I have no f***ing idea what is happening inside a fork when you turn this or click that, or add PSI." That's suspension 101.
  • + 1
 @nofear259: Thing is, look at the 'tune'. everything is wide open. Fast low speed, fast high speed. Not the first time I've seen these setup params. So, if things are wide open, then the tune on the fork leaves zero room for adjustment. Seems to me that they should increase the valving size so they can find a middle ground and then adjust from there. You know, like the rest of us do. Smile
  • + 4
 @freestyIAM:

Rebound damping should be proportional to rider/spring weight... compression not always, depends a lot more on terrain and style.
  • + 10
 @Vudu74: That was Brendog, although I prefer 'set it hard as f*ck, then binge eat until it's correct for your rider weight'. All the benefits with none of the training.
  • + 3
 @gramboh: rebound is only effected by spring. Not rider weight or anything else. It’s only controlling the forces being expelled from the spring that have been stored from an impact. Hence why on any fork or shock there is really only 3 clicks that are suited to each rider even if there are 24 clicks of rebound. They’re to cover all spring weights as opposed to rider weights.
  • + 1
 @sngltrkmnd: I was thinking the same thing. I get that she’s only 17 but how does one get to the level of rigging she is at (WCs and full sponsorship) and not even have a basic clue about how her suspension adjustments work or that handle bars could be trimmed.
  • + 1
 @sino428: Talent? Even if she was ten seconds slower with the 800mm bars she still would have won by 20 seconds. Obviously it wasn't putting her at a disadvantage
  • + 1
 @sino428: what?
  • + 2
 @Ozziefish: Beer helps with this.
  • + 1
 @src248: Thats not what I meant. What I mean is she's gotten to a high level of mountain biking at this point right? That means she has done alot of riding, and has been around bikes for quite a while. How does someone that immersed in the sport, and riding at this level, not get to the point of at least understanding the basics of what the knobs on her fork do?
  • + 1
 I don’t want to say the owner of YT’s name because I’ll butcher it or have it completely wrong but he’s the genius I heard about her maybe 1-2 years ago it’s a great back story to how she wound up @ YT, can’t wOt to see how far into the women’s elite times she gets this weekend on her home track!
  • + 3
 Will be interesting to see what place in Elite her time in Leogang (which is close to here hometown) is going to be :-P A faster juniors than elite time would be funny.
  • + 1
 How tall is Vali and how much does she weigh? I'm sure there are a lot of gals out there who might want to have a similar setup.
  • + 4
 Youth. How we envy it.
  • + 3
 That's a mechanic to trust.
  • + 3
 how much does she weigh to be running a 225lb spring?
  • + 41
 There are some things you don't ask a lady.
  • + 4
 That’s really not so low for a YT Tues. Those bikes obviously must have really low leverage ratios because I’ve seen a number of owners have trouble finding low enough spring rates for their rear dampers.
  • + 53
 How much does she weigh? Well, if she's getting 30% sag from a 225lb spring on a 7.8" travel bike... Tues leverage ratio of 1:2.3... assuming 50% weight bias... carry the 2... African swallow, aaahh... tire pressure 21psi minus 1 times 7...

No idea.
  • + 4
 @iamamodel: there should be an app for this. Female-Rider-Spring2Weight-Calculator.
  • + 4
 @iamamodel: dude, yt is a German brand, need to convert to European Swallows.
  • + 1
 On a YT Tues 200lb is pretty much the lowest, and goes up to 350lb. I have a 325lb on mine and weigh 195lbs and it's on the firm side. I have a 250lb and it's way too light, but the bike still doesn't bottom out it just wallows. It's an interesting kinematic on the Tues, between the insane amount of force it takes to bottom and the long stroke shock it's a great design.

Also, fun fact, TU es is German for "Do it", not an abbreviation of Tuesday. Although, I usually mistakenly call it a Tuesday when calling customer service in SoCal.
  • + 2
 Marshguard F***Flat inserts?? I want to know more.
  • + 1
 How is no one else not asking this question. I too am pretty curious.
  • + 1
 How come Vali is not on the roster to pick from in the wc comp?
  • + 2
 She is a Junior
  • + 1
 Can we get her measurements? .... to compare to the bike geo numbers.
  • + 1
 How much air would you run to not get a flat on race day
  • + 1
 Wrong post
  • + 1
 Is it just me or do the forks look bent! Nice bike tho!
  • + 1
 130 psi in the boxxer...? Seems way to high
  • + 4
 New debonair works with higher pressures I think
  • + 1
 The downside of having bigger negative air chamber/spring.
  • + 1
 Super stoke for her future YO!
  • + 1
 Super down to earth and shreds.
  • + 2
 That bike is sexy af!
  • + 2
 Man what a great ride.
  • + 1
 Indeed. Love my black and white Jeffsy. Nice to see a pro setup with similar scheme.
  • + 1
 fucking A.
  • - 26
flag thunder-nuggets (Jun 7, 2018 at 20:09) (Below Threshold)
 shes not even legal yet creep. shes only 17
  • + 4
 @I-want-your-bike: thats 1-2 years legal in most of the world
  • + 1
 @I-want-your-bike: there is a nice song from rick james thats called 17
  • + 1
 Bad ass bike Drool
  • - 1
 Don't want to objectify, but I love a lady in a Mayhem hoodie...
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