Crankworx Rotorua Slopestyle 2016 - Results

 After some reflection..the scoring was fair. These three guys will probably duke it out all season. Super close battle. Each run had its merits. Rogatkin came out swinging, but semenuk and reeder were technicians. Smooth as silk.

 Nicholi had that seriously banger twister, the 720 step down was sick and the cash roll was expected. Everyones talking about how Nicholi's botched landings hurt him, but now that I'm rewatching it I think the rest of his run being extremely lackluster were hurting his score. Brandon/Brett both have combos and technical tricks going throughout every single feature of their runs (although Brett missed the opportunity to trick/combo a few across his two runs). I know hindsight is 20/20 and probably not worth a lick of value, but I can really see Nicholi's BMX background make it look like he's just trying to over muscle the living shit out of everything, even simple tailwhips and 360's. His riding is almost stressful to watch, feel like he could go down any second and I hate seeing people get hurt.

 Well i miss all of it.... Is there any replay?

 Yep go on red bull TV live or on the homepage of here

 Trying the near impossible plus throwing big tricks on every feature...and landing them clean = 100. Bobble a couple of those landings but make it through the course without throwing a lesser trick because of loss of speed...well that should have gotten at least a 95 IMO. Even the Gods (Semenuk and Rheeder) wouldn't go for that and risk sacrificing a run. Two tricks on the run in to that twister too...insane.

 I think the "go for it' attitude should always win out over consistency...that's what got us to where we are today. I like combos and all but I'd rather see the attempts at the near impossible and so would the crowds. Add a couple small tricks together that equal a clean landing and momentum for the next feature might win the overall, but I want entertainment.

 @fitjoani pinkbike enduro-users barely know difference between backflip and frontflip)

 Well Nicholi also had a Cork 720, Cashroll, and Front Flip no-hander along with the Twister. Combos Vs. Gnarly tricks

 @SpinningAddiction okay
360 whip vs cork720 - Rogatkin better,but also he did 2 pedal stroke instead of one, like Sem
tuck to whip vs double whip- Semenuk
flip whip to can vs cashroll (another shitty landing with a lot of pedalling) - Rogatkin,but I think in overall in this segment they have nearly equal points.
flip tuck vs double whip (boom, second time and same trick) - of course flip tuck, it's flat log!
450 opo ds whip vs sketchy front tuck - Sem
oppo truck vs barspin - Sem
flip can vs foot plant 360 - Sem
whip vs tuck - Sem
cork720 barspin with a barely landed misty1080 - Rogatkin
Rogatkin is incredible trick machine, but Brandon was cleaner, has style, and bangers at every single feature.

 Sem did switch truck up)

 It should have been Semenuk 94.33 and Rogatkin 94.00. I'll be pissed if Nicholi loses the overall by 1 point!

 Don't worry, those points doesn't count for the overall, it's the position that counts!

 yeah !!! and Messere's flatspin at his 1st run !!! mindblowing

 Never really been a fan of pilgrim when he was winning but I love what he brought to this contest

 misty10*

 *twister

 Feel bad nobody is saying congrats to the guy. All the circle jerking about him not smiling when he doesn't do well aside, he's seriously one of the nicest guys I've ever met. Congrats Brandon!

 I think that being a point in the judging is directing the sport in a very perfectionist way, and I love it! If the judging was more permisive the sport wouldn't be at the level it is right now

 I think that if landing smooth wasn't such a big factor in scoring the level of riding would actually be higher than it is now. Riders have to pull easier tricks in order to land perfectly and score high. If there wasn't such a big emphasis on cleanliness of landings riders would be more willing to push their limits. Rogatkin in a perfect example of that.

 To clarify, it just seems like sometimes the deductions for things like a minor pedal slip are a bit too harsh.

 Yeah there would be progression if the judging was more permisive, especially in ultrabangers, but the riders wouldn't focus on getting their tricks and landings 100% dialled. I love slopestyle because of the perfection level the riders pursue every while they still are able to introduce new tricks in almost every big comp. We don't need to follow the path of bmx dirt jumping, our sport is legit

 Yes! How is this not the biggest issue? The top three were the top three and overall I think the judging was ok with them, but Testa's score was insanely low...

 just spit my water out. Hahahaha.

 Someone looked like they got hurt during the tribute train. Who was that?

 Joyride 2012

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Said this in a comment in the other thread, I think we're so excited to see new tricks that we don't care as much about the landings and linking everything together smoothly. The judges have consistently established time and time again that this is a huge factor in your score. Every year, however, we still act surprised. I know we would rather have tricks > smoothness, but until the judges change that I think we should know what to expect. I'd love to hear from more of the competitors in Crankworx slopestyle and their thoughts on that, they might have a different perspective then we do since they actually ride the course and might vouch for the insane difficulty of throwing down a run perfectly. With that said though I really wish I could've seen Nicholi nail that run with finesse, but I'm not going to pretend I'm surprised at his score. I've been hyped about that turkey twister all week.

Semenuks safety runs have come to an end. He needs to go back to the foam pit and learn some new stuff. I honestly wouldn't be as worried about Rogatkin as I would be about Rheeder if I were him. Rogatkin has mentioned he likes the straight booter courses like Rotorura because they're simple setups for the big tricks, but Les 2 Alps & Whistler have proven challenging for him to link stuff flawlessly. Rheeder on the other hand is going to keep Semenuk away with that oppo cork 7. Semenuk is a great dude but I kinda want him to lose so he can time travel to young up and coming Semenuk and be forced to forge new stuff, he's been sitting in a safe place competitively for too long and it's looking like that's about to end.

On another note I'd like to see a more complex course at Roto next year. Totally unrelated, but Nicholis celebration after that run was kinda cringey haha but who cares when you throw down that 1080 cash roll thingamabob turkey twister next level stuff

 Yeah especially on such an easy trick like a twister...

 I agree completely. You heard Semunuk himself, he said he did almost no prep for this season. He still won (he is a godd*amn legend after all), but he is gonna have to put in some more progression if he is going to continue winning. @anchoricex

 I thought Yannick Granieri should have scored higher. Only guy to front flip up and backflip the long and low.

 If everything Brett would be the one who was robbed, at the time i thought he should've scored higher than Semenuk but I'll re-watch to be sure. Rlgatkin's score was on point or even a bit higher than it should be. If you honestly think he should've won this you don't know about slopestyle. He was so close though, he gets a step closer in every comp

 And props to Torquato, he just came to the diamond series to stay!

 @mdmake Tell Genon that

 @anchoricex pretty much agree with you, but Semenuk's 2014 joyride run was so much ahead of it's time and out of safe zone he deserved to do some "safe runs" last year. If you look at that run and the runs people have been doing last year you can easily see the influence.

I feel like Torquato might be the one to watch this year, he has both good drop and jump tricks, actually not just good but also creative, compared to Rheeder who 90% of the time seems like he tries to copy Semenuk's old runs.

 I dont understand how people can say that Semenuk isnt forging new ground. Until this contest, no one else was cork 7ing step downs. Not sure if everyone here saw his practice clip, but he wa going for a flip whip to bar mid course too, which is not a common trick in contests. His 3 whip on the step down was also ridiculous. Soderstrom and Zedja (and paul B back in the day) are the only other people trying that. Semenuk won for good reason His run was dialed with very hard tricks. If Brett didn't bobble, he definately would have taken it. The problem with rogatkin is that he uses tailwhips too much for filler tricks. He had two double whips in the same run (quite alot given its only 9 jumps. Stoked to see him cork 7 that step down though, and his rowdy twister landing had me hollering! I think the real robbery was Torquato Testa. Man, flip NFC step down, the double flip, flat flip drop, and the flip triple NFC. just so rowdy for a rookie on the scene.

 Oops, double post...............98.7

 Did he oppo 720 at the end?

 ah

 "Bangers or nothing". So glad he choose mtb. Bezanson, and I'm hoping Baldock's next.

 I thought Brett's first run was slightly better than Brandon's.

 I think Rogatkin's run was super sick, but Semenuk put it down cleaner.

 Semenuk's smoothness and clean landings cannot be understated when he is putting of those big of tricks. Rogatkin got the big tricks and it seems like he is only going to keep getting more, but the dudes flow doesn't match Semenuk's. I think the judges got it right. REALLY wish Rheeder could have stuck that last oppo cork down.

 Rheeders weak tuck no hander is what kept him from scoring higher.

 overrated run for rogatkin.
Yeah, he got the twister (barely land it) and cork7 from sd, but all other tricks (except maybe cash) is way easier,than Semenuk did.So 2 place for Nicholi is true,but slightly overjudging in points.And if we remember about flow
Also, fredrikson have ultra-overjudging run.

 After watching it again, I take that back. I think Brett would've scored higher than Brandon if he had gotten the tuck over the long in low. I didn't realize he missed that

 I have always thought that judging should support people throwing down huge and progressing the sport even if our isn't the cleanest over someone throwing down super clean but within the current limits

 Naw, they did a good job.

 I'm not gonna discount smoothness on a course like this, I wouldn't be able to air the thing without having slip ups. I think smoothness is a big factor. Most of these guys are dirtjumpers and thats absolutely something they value.

 Also wondering. Anyone know?