Available from 12 July, GoPro today revealed their new HERO4 Session camera. According to their website, the new HERO4 Session "packs the power of GoPro into our smallest, lightest, most convenient camera yet, featuring a rugged and waterproof design, easy one-button control, 1080p60 video and 8MP photos."
In photo mode, the Session will capture 8MP single photos, time-lapse photos at set intervals from 0.5 to 60 seconds, and burst photos at 10 frames per second. GoPro state the camera is rugged and waterproof to 33’ (10m), eliminating the need for a separate housing. Similar to other cameras out on the market already, the Session's Auto Image Rotation automatically adjusts the capture orientation to right-side up so there’s no need to flip your footage in post-production.
The Session weighs in at 2.6oz (74g). Video modes available include 1440p, 1080p and 960p60/50 with GoPro's Auto Low Light feature also available.
The GoPro HERO 4 Session is priced at £329.99 / $399.99USD / €429.99
Man, it really sucks that the other guy got top comment even though you wrote this a minute before him. Be strong, brother, you're a winner in my book.
A lot of hate on gopro here, but in the end it is still always the best tested compared to its competition.
The only thing i Dont like about gopros is how mainstream it has become. Every fat retard whos never done any sports has one for holidays. There's nothing action sport about them anymore
I do get your point, but since that is a clothing style I see it a bit differently than something that is pure functional. It gives me a feeling I would get if suddenly all elderly people would start using downhill bikes for grocery shopping.
I actually do feel like that though if I see a fashion chick wearing a shirt of a hard rock band because it is fashionable, while she doesnt even know the band and clearly looks like she listens to Britney Spears. And I don't even listen to hard rock myself haha.
Myself living in a touristic city I see many tourists (who defenitely don't do extreme sports) take selfies with their gopro on a selfie stick every single day. While I only see a couple of skateboarders / bmx riders using one a couple of times a year. Because of the city I live in I do think i have a stronger feeling about this that people who don't live in touristic areas.
@Mattin I totally get your point, here it's full of chinese/japonese standing in the middle of the street (ignoring bus, cars and bicycle) to take selfies. I hate that. But fortunately, bus drivers are kinda crazy here... But still, saying "i dont like gopros because is too mainstream" really sucks
@tobiusmaximum When I was studying in Strasbourg, I noticed a lot of 60yo germans, riding >2000/3000€ mtb (german brands only) in the streets the week end. No need to say these bikes never saw a single mountain.
Ah I see the misunderstanding: I said "the only thing i don't like about gopros", where you thought i said "I don't like gopros because".
I really like their cameras aswell as how they support our sport. Its the best you can get. Just wishing these tourists would use some other type of camera instead
I've felt the same way, but the way I see it, as long as I'm still getting cool action footage on my GoPro, it really doesn't matter what other people decide to use it for.
In defense of tourists using them, they're durable as hell, plus resist all kinds of weather. Drop it all day, and it'll be fine. Hell, you break the housing? That's cool, just buy another! Can't say the same most digital cameras.
Or maybe People who invented action cams did't think that they can be used not only in extreme sports but in conclusion in some other life "activities"...in which actually the need to have them and to invent them was not so big as in pe. our sport and some different sports...so extreme sports or other sport activities where the Mother of invention...nów when they arę for US...why not for others...why not to use them some other ways as well...more tollerance Lads recorDOn!
Totally agree! Just look at the hero4 launch video. No action at all! Had that same conversation on YouTube but too many gopro fanboys round there. But looking at this video I think they want the session to become more the action can and the standard hero with a display is more for tourists and other abuse for a gopro
Trends are a nightmare these days, some people are so easily drawn in. An English friend of mine even got told the other day, by a girl from China.. That she wanted an e-cig because they 'look cool'. She didn't even smoke!! Dear God. We tried to tell her, 'no that's not cool'. But the response was 'yes it is'. You can get many people to easily empty their pockets just with the promise of making one more cool.
My bad, I used to play a game at Glastonbury.. 'Figure-out-what-action-sport-the-gopro-holder-partakes-in'. It was tricky sometimes... But I didn't realise some of these buggers don't do sport!! Cheat. Lol.
But it is significantly smaller and lighter giving tons more mounting options and making things like narwhal cams less tiring. It is not the camera for everyone but I am excited about it.
It should certainly be priced lower than a Silver - which is better in every way.
You shouldn't pay more for basic design features such as being able to use it on it's side.. at least, not the premium it's currently got!
Cheap as chips alternative.. www.sjcam.com/3-cameras (Std M10 Cube) works with gopro accessories too. Might not be up there with image quality compared to 'the big boys', but for the price, you can't go wrong. Its basically an Sjcam SJ4000 in a smaller body. Picked mine up via fleabay, used once for £34 delivered.
The most exciting thing about this post is the rotational mount- I'm presuming this will work with all GPs- this will make things a lot easier to get the camera pointing exactly where you want it without having to run a million extension bars to try and get it in position. This camera doesn't do anything for me at all- can't see the point. Yeah it's smaller, but it's also shitter.
Two reasons why I won't be spending any money on such cameras any time soon: lack of a frame buffer and having the lens/sensor and battery/electronics in a single unit - why you'd want to carry such a expensive and bulky item exposed the way you have to when you shouldn't need to always puzzled me - just plain stupid and ridiculous; crappy design, but I guess soooo much more profitable...
Hmmm as a long time GoPro user (since the original) - apart from the smaller size I don't find the Session very impressive. The Hero 4 Silver delivers way more bang or your $.
Session 'features vs Hero 4':
- lower video res - lower photo res - lower (bordering on useless) photo burst rate - complete reliance on phone app or remote to setup camera (PITA) - same shitty mounting system
For those that rush out and buy the Session I think there's a pretty good chance they'll be screwed over by the subsequent release of a Session+ or whatever that addresses most of the above limitations.
I've created a table showing the features of all currently available GoPro cameras. This includes all discontinued but still to be found online models.
Oh for the love of god! Another gopro product!? I already have gopro 1 thru 4, black, silver, white, 32 extra curve mounts, 21 flat mounts, 3 chestys, two poles 18 and 40", a floaty, wireless remote, Gazillion batteries, anti fog crap, back covers with holes, wrist mount, handlebar mounts, all my helmets have mounts all over them, I have a whole dam box just for all the dam accessories. And I can't even remember how to tether my 4 to my iPhone app!! Just stop it!!
I actually think its a good idea as i think that the standard go pros are a bit too big for when using on the xc/enduro helmet and looks out of place, where as this been more compact will be a better fit and bring the weight ontop of your head down but too expensive!
I was always wondering about the form factor of the gopros, to me it always seemed more convenient not to have the large surface facing forward on cameras, that are externally mounted to different kinds of vehicles. What (e.g.) Sony and Garmin did (before the latter recently switched to exactly the same format gopro had until now) always seemed the more logical choice to me. So a smaller front is a good idea in my book, and of course lower weight is, too.
But I think the camera should either be even smaller (the difference to the regular gopros is not that big) and lighter, or it should have the same features as the other gopros (exchangable battery, high resolution), or it should be significantly cheaper than the other ones. The way it is I will wait for the next version.
I saw that little beauty and got excited instantly. Then looked at the price, and the thrill was gone. It does produce good quality image, but nowhere near series 4 cameras. As mentioned before, if you're looking for balanced performance/price ratio, you better go for silver edition
the only market this thing is going to be interesting for realistically is quadcopters. I wish my GoPro was smaller, said no one ever, however lighter giving longer flight time for quads is of significant interest
@georgy291 : Quadcopter market is moving on from GoPro. All the new DJi ones comes with their own camera. Also, all the after market Chinese gimbals are designed around the standard Go Pro so if you get this new cam you'll have to wait for a while before a gimbal is designed and made available that will accommodate the new model.
same price as GP 4 Silver? worse image quality? Thx, I am gonna stay with my GP 4S. However this camera makes me thinking about Hero 4+ or Hero 5 design. It can be very innovative
When I first saw this I thought it could be a nice little camera and was thinking it'd be sub $200, boy was I wrong... And it seems really pointless compared to the silver
You would have to be a fool to buy one of these over either the Silver or the Black Hero4. With the Silver you get a LCD screen, with the Black you get 120fps @ 1080p or 30fps @4K. This new one offers none of this and costs the same.
Thats what I mean. GoPro has always been very optimistic in their battery life claims. So now we have a smaller form factor yet the same amount of battery life claimed.
I doubt they could make it water tight without a casing if the battery wasn't built in. I agree the GP batteries aren't great but a lot of the time it's either a LCD screen or WiFi that kills them so quickly. It is annoying though that you will have to find a way to charge it rather than taking a bunch of batteries on a trip and working your way through them as you need them.
Not much of a competition between this and the Shimano cam. Marketing works well for GoPro, but when it comes down to the hardware and true performance, Shimano wins.
I would opt for either the Black or the Silver over the new Session yes. The Session to me is just a backup camera for the main ones (either Hero 4 Silver or Black). It would be great to get in those places where the slightly larger ones don't. This camera may also be the perfect starter camera.
And that "handlebar" mount....should almost stay in place long enough to hit the first bump. Then you'll be picking your toy up off the sidewalk. Every 10 feet.
GoPro's been making a lot of bad mistakes as of late. You can't mount it under the visor; probably the most popular position. Considering the price you'd be paying, its a downgrade in both image and video quality.
It's too thick. All the MotoCross and MTB riders had it mounted to the side, i'm assuming because you can't mount it under the visor. I just dont see why someone would buy this over a Hero4 Black, its already small enough.
It looks way too thick to fit whilst still maintaining a good camera angle. Even with my Hero4 i've had to fiddle quite a bit, and make a custom mount to get the best camera angle. From my past experience with a thinner camera and seeing as no one in the video is using it under the visor, that's why i suspect it may not fit.
It looks like it will fit just fine. The mount is very small and if you look closely at the pic at the end of the article it looks like that guy has it under the visor.
Mate, how many times do i have to say thickness over and over again? Thats just the face of the GoPro, yeah, its more aerodynamic but its twice as thick, if not more.
Edit; After seeing @Hetman64 comment, it does look like it might fit based off the picture on PB. Could never be completely sure and as said in my comments, it could still be thick therefore not being able to get a good camera angle. Guess the only way to really find out is to wait until there are people receiving them.
I think I might be the only person who thinks Rokan14 has a point- I thought the same when I saw that this new model is like a cube. This really isn't that great- it's just a GP4 white edition with the battery placed behind the lens and processor rather than next to it.
I thought the same at first, but after watching this vid, I'm hesitant. youtu.be/pzMRr5eTtho That ball knuckle mount thingy looks like it could allow it. There's one shot in this vid where you see the camera under the visor, but "UCI-style", in other words the mount is actually attached to the visor, which would probably result in shaky footage.
And I don't want to sound like those uci pricks, but I wouldn't feel safe having a rugged object with a small surface strapped just in front of my forehead. You can buy a new visor, but buying a new skull and set of brains (if you ever had one. Not applicable for me) would be a little more costly.
Yeah, but it's attached onto the visor. I mean, you could rock a dslr that way.
What Rokan was talking about is attaching the camera onto the helmet, but under the visor. Like Remy Metailler does. Makes for a pretty stealthy setup, but not as shaky as attaching it to the visor
Go to Go-Pro's website then, cause the stuff they put up there is pretty awesome...
That said, I think they're definitely selling people that they can make videos just like that easily, when 90% of what makes those videos good is everything they put into production, post-processing, & just being a good enough videographer to understand interesting shots, & how to work with the light.
You'll notice very little POV in those videos, too, instead they use the go-pros to get interesting angles on the action. Of course, they can put 3+ cameras on one person so that they can cut between them for interesting videos, while your average buyer can't afford to do that.
Wonderful, so now when I want to film more than 30min I can just spend another 400$
But still, saying "i dont like gopros because is too mainstream" really sucks
@tobiusmaximum When I was studying in Strasbourg, I noticed a lot of 60yo germans, riding >2000/3000€ mtb (german brands only) in the streets the week end. No need to say these bikes never saw a single mountain.
I really like their cameras aswell as how they support our sport. Its the best you can get.
Just wishing these tourists would use some other type of camera instead
I was actually backing up gopro, saying that it is good stuff.
But now I do indeed see how you can read my comment in 2 totally different ways
Session 'features vs Hero 4':
- lower video res
- lower photo res
- lower (bordering on useless) photo burst rate
- complete reliance on phone app or remote to setup camera (PITA)
- same shitty mounting system
it's also kinda bizarre how similar the Session is to the Rollei Action cam
www.rollei.com/products/actioncams/cams/rollei-actioncam-500-sunrise,p252120
For those that rush out and buy the Session I think there's a pretty good chance they'll be screwed over by the subsequent release of a Session+ or whatever that addresses most of the above limitations.
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But I think the camera should either be even smaller (the difference to the regular gopros is not that big) and lighter, or it should have the same features as the other gopros (exchangable battery, high resolution), or it should be significantly cheaper than the other ones. The way it is I will wait for the next version.
I was not disappointed.
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Heres one exapmple compared to a helmet; rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE1LzA3LzAxL2E0L2dvcHJvMjMuYzRjM2MuanBnCnAJdGh1bWIJMTIwMHg5NjAwPg/c81dfc99/fda/gopro-23.jpg
And heres another example compared to a Hero4;
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Edit; After seeing @Hetman64 comment, it does look like it might fit based off the picture on PB. Could never be completely sure and as said in my comments, it could still be thick therefore not being able to get a good camera angle. Guess the only way to really find out is to wait until there are people receiving them.
youtu.be/pzMRr5eTtho
That ball knuckle mount thingy looks like it could allow it.
There's one shot in this vid where you see the camera under the visor, but "UCI-style", in other words the mount is actually attached to the visor, which would probably result in shaky footage.
It still looks like it could be attached on the helmet under the visor though.
You can buy a new visor, but buying a new skull and set of brains (if you ever had one. Not applicable for me) would be a little more costly.
That said, I think they're definitely selling people that they can make videos just like that easily, when 90% of what makes those videos good is everything they put into production, post-processing, & just being a good enough videographer to understand interesting shots, & how to work with the light.
You'll notice very little POV in those videos, too, instead they use the go-pros to get interesting angles on the action. Of course, they can put 3+ cameras on one person so that they can cut between them for interesting videos, while your average buyer can't afford to do that.