Video: Insane Crash at the Tour de France

Jul 24, 2018 at 17:36
by Pinkbike Staff  

Philippe Gilbert crashes over a wall on Stage 16 of the 2018 Tour de France.


227 Comments

  • 354 23
 ...and he dusted himself off and finished the stage! Road racing is NOT for pussies.
  • 113 3
 Local guy finished a race with a broken collarbone and drove himself to the hospital afterwards.
  • 120 1
 Finished the stage with a broken knee cap...he's now out of the Tour. Can't begin to imagine how painful finishing that stage must have been. Chapeau.
  • 125 0
 Last week Nibali was taken down by a spectator/ motorbike. He could barely stand up, you could see he was seriously hurt. Got back on the bike, finished the stage (5km of tough uphill) going 101% to catch up the people 1:30 sec in front of him. And he did. Afterwards he was diagnosed with a fractured vertebrae and had to abandon the race. I mean 5k with a broken vertebrae and he put 1:30 on the other contenders.
  • 67 5
 Riding down mountian roads at speed in NC is way scarier than anything I’ve done at the bike park on the enduro bike. Speeds are way higher, zero protection and you’re hoping there isn’t a car cutting the yellow line around blind turns.
  • 9 1
 Props for still pushing after crash and injury!
  • 11 0
 @ReformedRoadie: I typically like to poke fun at xc and road riders, but some of my most harrowing moments were also on my xc or road bike in NC
  • 21 0
 And he did it while wearing lycra. I'm nowhere near comfortable enough with my body shape to wear that stuff.
  • 140 2
 Me, a pure roadie at age 18: "Mountain biking is too dangerous for me!"
Me, a pure MTBer at age 46: "Road riding is too dangerous for me!"
  • 9 2
 @ReformedRoadie: this is exactly why I won’t ride road bikes... dumb distracted drivers.
  • 23 16
 @RedRedRe: and downhill racers miss a whole race because they've got a sore thumb :-P hehehe
  • 9 0
 If you want to see the toughest road racer, search images for “Fiorenzo Magni inner tube” and read the story. Broken collarbone, he kept racing the Giro d’italia until the end. Since he could not pull up with his left hand, he strapped an inner tube to the bars and pulled with his teeth.
  • 16 25
flag SintraFreeride (Jul 24, 2018 at 23:24) (Below Threshold)
 Not for pussies for junkies!
  • 24 47
flag shaborider (Jul 24, 2018 at 23:51) (Below Threshold)
 This kind of heroism is probably caused by all the substances that are not banned yet. Or they have enough money to pass the testing. Not sure I can ever trust pro road cycling after cheater Armstrong. I hope that such thing will never happen in MTB but the money is sneaking in so it's just a matter of time. ..sigh..
  • 2 0
 @iamamodel: Being 51 myself, I can relate!
  • 7 0
 @shaborider: No, it is not PEDs related. I have been injured a few times when racing on the road as an amateur. With the adrenaline and the muscles and tissues being hot you can sometimes get back on the bike quite easily. Sure it hurts but the pain feels manageable. It's only when you get off the bike and stand still for a few minutes that the pain comes back at full strength.
  • 10 4
 @RedRedRe: Props to the man, but really stupid. His behaviour could have landed him in a wheelchair forever. I am speaking out of experience: Fractured two vertebrae on a bad crash, stayed put, did not move at all despite a doctor asking me to stand up. Trauma surgeon next day in hospital told me, if I had stood up, I would be a paraplegic today...
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flag bulletbassman (Jul 25, 2018 at 3:48) (Below Threshold)
 @shaborider: Nah, your body has everything in it to get out of a sticky situation on your own will. I've seperated a shoulder out on the trails and had no problem hiking the up hills and gingerly coasting the downs cause that's how I was going to get home. Just most people are going to choose to borrow a cell phone and call an ambulance rather than finish a road race.
  • 6 20
flag clarky78 (Jul 25, 2018 at 3:55) (Below Threshold)
 No, it's for idiots... Is it somehow clever or awesome to ride with a broken body and do potentially more harm only to drop out the race after finishing? Dumb roadies...
  • 2 0
 @iamamodel: With the amount of wreckless drivers and SUVs I wont even think about going fast on the road.
  • 7 0
 I remember Nino Schurter saying after he participated in the Tour de Suisse, that the sprint at the race finish is the most dangerous thing he has done on 2 wheels.
  • 8 0
 @iamamodel: 100%! I used to ride road, but it's insane. And there's not near the payoff of mountain biking. For the most part we get beautiful scenery, lots of variety, full body workout, and your risk is in your hands, not the hands of motorists.
  • 3 1
 @j-son1971: I'll bet he didn't feel it until after he stopped.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Exactly.
  • 2 1
 @ReformedRoadie: slicing a tire on a piece of gravel has been my scariest adventure. Done it twice, both in curves in Fairview at high speed. Once front wheel, once back. Front wheel was sooooo scary.
  • 6 0
 @jdsusmc: i started with Mtb then road over 20 years ago...it is way worse now than it was before everyone had a cell phone.
  • 4 0
 @jdsusmc: I ride road a lot because it's so accessible right out of my door + it gets your in great shape for MTB but damn dude you're right the distracted drivers are so abundant. Wish they'd just put the damn phones down.
  • 3 0
 @daugherd: yea, I get it. Agreed, I’ve had way too many close calls... on my road bike and my street motorcycle, they’re both sold. Not worth it.
  • 1 0
 @j-son1971: i broke my kneecap and put a 4 inch crack in the end of my femur 18 years ago. I finished my ride and went to the doctor 3 days later when it turned purple. Broken bones arent always painful. The orthopedist told me he has seen 80 year old women walk in with broken pelvis and not be in much pain.
  • 2 0
 I think what you meant to say is "road racing is not for testicle sacs". Ya know pussies take a hell of a beating. One hard knock on the ol' roast and I'm on the ground in pain.
  • 1 0
 Yes it is, and for weirdos in Lycra anyone can do that on a real bike
  • 2 0
 @RedRedRe: I've broken a verterbrae before (well 4 of them) and I could only hobble to my car with plenty of assistance. Seeing a dude ride like that is freaking crazy.
  • 1 0
 @iamamodel: this is so true!!!
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 @jdsusmc: best idea
  • 80 1
 road biking scares me.....cant even imagine how much it would hurt to hit pavement at like 50mph with no pads....and riding with people basically touching you on either side. Or worry about getting hit by a car.
  • 149 1
 Yeah you are more likely to get hurt mtn biking, but more likely to get killed road riding.
  • 35 0
 ^^^ This....

I think I'd rather race DH than cycle on the road with every car out to kill you
  • 21 0
 @kiwikonadude: ...and the distracted drivers. If I crash, I'd rather it be my doing, than getting hit by a car.
  • 57 0
 I mtb by myself all the time, in the middle of nowhere, on steep exposed trails, in mountain lion country . . . but I won't ride on the road. F that. Too afraid of getting hit by a car.
  • 24 0
 I was on a local high school mtn biking team last fall. i was the only DH guy on there and everyone else was either roadies or XC. All the parents would tell me how crazy i was for doing downhill meanwhile their kids are riding with a brain bucket going 50mph down a road with inch wide tires just waiting for one distracted driver to hit them. At least mtn biking getting hurt is usually your own fault.
  • 6 1
 Well... i made my first trip to CO last week and watched a DHer get hauled off on a stretcher and into an amberlamps. Hope he is ok cuz dude wasn't even conscious. I'm not gonna claim one is more dangerous than the other...as far as I'm concerned as soon as WE hop on two wheels, it's gonna be sketchy. Be safe out there.
  • 4 0
 @zephxiii: I live and ride most of the DH parks in Colorado. I will take my chances every time doing DH vs .riding on the road. Cars always win and sliding across pavement with nothing but spandex on is insane. Big Grin
  • 9 0
 When people ask me why I quit riding on roads, I say "I've never been hit by a car on singletrack".
  • 2 0
 Can confirm. Have not been t-boned on singletrack, have been t-boned on the roadbike (car didn't give way). Have not taken chunks out of my helmet on singletrack, have taken chunks out of my helmet on the road.
  • 1 0
 @axleworthington: couldn’t agree more mate.
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 @kiwikonadude:

thats precisely why I sold my Road bike after a brief 6 months...
  • 3 2
 Nowadays cars are much faster then cars 20 years ago. Going back 60 years the difference between a car cruising speed and a road bike were minimal. That is why gravel riding is becoming more popular. Minimal traffic and slower speeds. Riding on an open road in facephone 2018 is a stupid idea.
  • 2 0
 @j-maj998: Unless some crazy farmer places a wire between the trees in the hight of your neck Smile This crap is happening so often in France... mad people.
  • 2 0
 @RedRedRe: Ah, no! Speed limits across the world haven’t really changed much in the last 60 years. If anything, they have come down, with 30km/h zones increasing. What has changed is that there are a gazillion more cars on the road, and possibly (but less quantifiable) more disregard for other human beings.
  • 10 0
 @axleworthington: You are correct sir. According to the CDC males between the ages of 35-55 are 6 times more likely to suffer a fatality while road biking than those riding MTB. That’s all styles of MTB mind you from bike path riders to those hucking 30 foot step downs. I don’t believe the study made any distinction between differing MTB disciplines. Point is road riding is very dangerous. But honestly who knew that going out and playing in traffic on a 15lb spindly bike with bald tires the width of your thumb, pumped up to 90+ lbs whilst sitting in a position that’s halfway over the handle bars, grabbing said handlebars, that are narrower than your shoulders, and rocketing down asphalt using only rim brakes could possibly be dangerous???
  • 2 0
 @mitochris: speed limits are not respected anywhere. Maybe in Sweden, I don’t know. I agree with your second point, but car nowadays accelerate much faster and are more stable at speed. The front end/windshield design are another issue as they create huge blind spots.
  • 1 0
 @mitochris: there's also the matter of cars being built to withstand collisions at speed for the safety of the people inside the car. What does it matter that you can't see where you're going, if you hit something you'll be fine...shame about the thing you hit. Ah, but now we can trust an algorithm to do the looking for us, so there is even less reason to care what's going on around you, just carry on having that text/sms conversation, you'll be fine.
  • 1 0
 @RedRedRe: that was not your argument. You said that cars are now much faster, which is true, if one considers max speed, but not when considering what speed cars are allowed to drive. Cruising speed might have changed, but I wonder whether this really makes much of a difference. Whether a car passes at 90km/h or 100km/h is equally scary. However, cars have become wider in the last 60 years, so this might also affect how it feels for a cyclist, when getting passed.
I don’t know the stats but I think the same percentage of people drive too fast, compared to 20 years ago.
In general, a more stable car will
Be more safe, so that doesn’t make much sense. However, I agree that visibility in modern cars is less good and I have read that it is more dangerous to be hit by a modern car due to the way the front end is built. I.e. you get more injuries. Some car makers are starting to take this into account.
Personally I think it is the increased number of cars that is the main problem. Maybe also a social thing that life is more hectic so that we take chances now that we would not have taken otherwise.
  • 1 0
 @mitochris: driving a 2018 car at 30mph you feel it is hardly moving. You don't get how fat you go. You can get distracted. Driving a 1990 car at 30mph you feel you are going faster and pay more attention. Besides as you said, car are wider
  • 3 0
 Don't forget dudes waving flares in your face, pushing you or chucking a bottle of piss on you! Note I'm talking about the TDF, not my commute!! lol
  • 1 0
 The crazy thing is you bounce and roll on tarmac, grazed to F some bruises. Been in heavy mtb hits with all the fancy 3do and far worse bruising swelling at far slower speeds. Never makes sense
  • 1 0
 @enduroFactory: Abrasion hurts, trauma kills.
  • 64 4
 Nah, disc brakes are unnecessary for road riding.
  • 18 2
 I've seen of a few of the Tour de Fance racer's bikes with disc brakes this year. They're there if you look closely. I'm not sure how much better they work; there's only so much friction available between narrow tires and pavement.
  • 7 1
 But those hot discs are so dangerous tho. It might singe you!!!
  • 2 0
 a thorough singe-ing
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flag RedRedRe (Jul 24, 2018 at 22:43) (Below Threshold)
 None of the riders want disk brakes or electronic shifting. There may be a reason? For recreational riders, a road bike with disk brakes will need a stiffer fork and rear triangle. Stiff is good until a certain limit, otherwise the ride becomes uncomfortable, and being uncomfortable burns your energy - besides being no fun.
  • 4 0
 I think in many emergencies the limit isn't the brakes, but the tire-pavement interface. Those tires are hella skinny you skid pretty easily.
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flag SintraFreeride (Jul 24, 2018 at 23:25) (Below Threshold)
 lol! I came to say the same thing! And imagine if they had decent geometry too!
  • 22 0
 I'm all for disc brakes but let's be honest, he simply misjudged the previous corner and ended up in the wrong side of the road prior to entering the second one.
  • 5 1
 @toadlywilde: Disc brakes are so much better in the road bike. Both in th wet and dry. I am surprised they don’t use it more especially on the mountain stages. You can brake so much later and don’t get fatigue. In the wet they work better too but the riders probably still have to learn how much they can pull the leaver before the front wheel washes out.
  • 2 1
 @SintraFreeride: What needs to change in regards to road bike geometry? You want 66 degree seat angles and 65 head to make it like very recent mtbs?

Horses for courses and all of that...
  • 3 0
 @RedRedRe: Actually discs are a benefit for recreational riders since they have better power and modulation so they can stop safely and also allow for wider tires that add comfort and stability. The difference in stiffness is tiny.
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flag RedRedRe (Jul 25, 2018 at 6:40) (Below Threshold)
 @vid1998: I guess you don’t understand frame building basics? Or ever rode a properly set up road bike? The only advantage of disk brakes is stopping on the wet. They do not provide better modulation. The industry just needs to sell and force people to upgrade. None of the riders want them - the ones using them is because they are forced by the sponsors.
  • 3 1
 @RedRedRe: Is this 1998?

A disc brake stops faster in every condition, compared to a rim brake, and primarily because of the modulation.

What does frame building have to do with anything, btw?
  • 4 0
 might just be snark, but I will say that as he's just getting to the wall, you can see he's lifting the rear tire in a nosewheelie, so it sure seems he's reached the limit of what the brakes could contribute to that situation, tires had traction, etc...he just blew it on planning ahead.
  • 10 0
 @RedRedRe: Simply untrue. The coefficient of friction of carbon wheels and appropriate brake pads varies massively based on temperature. It is also incredibly easy to scientifically measure modulation of brakes: you graph the lever force vs clamping force. On a disc brake this creates basically a straight line, on a cable actuated rim brake the line looks more or less like a stair case due to binding friction in basically every part of the system. Disc brakes modulate significantly better than rim brakes in a wider range of temperatures and conditions: Fact.
  • 1 4
 @hllclmbr: Road bikes are supposed to be made for speed yet their geometry is best for slow speed and short riders. Road bike geometry isn't being developed because of the UCI. I would like to see long chainstays, slack head angles, long reach, short stems and steeper seatangles and of course aerodynamics developed without restricted like with triathlon bikes.
  • 2 0
 The only reason why disc brakes haven't been adopted more quickly in the World Tour is because the wheel changes are disastrously slow. I will say however their benefits for the average recreational rider are fantastic. Can't imagine not using disc brakes!
  • 1 0
 @SintraFreeride: What does a steep seat angle bring to the road bike game?
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flag RedRedRe (Jul 25, 2018 at 21:06) (Below Threshold)
 @nzandyb: then you never rode a road bike with campagnolo or dura ace brakes. You seem to confuse hydraulic vs cable as disk vs rim.
What is a rim brake? Isn't the rim like a big rotor? Bigger rotor = more modulation.
Only advantage is on wet / carbon rims.
On a road bike you do not brake as hard and nearly as often as a mtb. You never touch the brakes.
And they did cut a couple of people already-if you ever seen a common mass crash in road races, you know it can happen.

As I said, all the pros - besides being forced by sponsors - do not want to use them. The riders association was clear.
What already exist has been refined for over 100 years.
There were hydraulic rim and disk brakes on the market already in the 40's-50's.
They were abandoned for a reason.
Now all it is behind these "innovation" is the greed of some industry wig ready to make a millionare bonus.
  • 2 0
 @hllclmbr: better aerodynamics when coupled with the right front setup and more efficient power transfer. There is a reason time trial bikes tend to have steeper seat angles.
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 @RedRedRe: Couple of things:
1. A huge portion of the peloton is riding carbon rims on any given day and they're all riding wet rims if it rains so, as you pointed out, discs are better there.
2. It's true you hardly ever hit your brakes road biking but when you do it's because you need to stop now-like. There have been cases where people were possibly cut by discs but think about how many crashes were lessened in severity or prevented altogether due to the stopping power disc brakes afford.
  • 26 1
 It was an eight or nine foot drop on the descent of a mountain stage. Fractured kneecap and he still finished the stage. Not quite as insane as Johnny Hoogerland getting hit by a car and flying into a barbed wire fence during the 2011 Tour de France. And he even finished the stage....
  • 8 0
 I remember that one...crazy shit; I wonder if the driver of the car was ever fined/prosecuted/charged with negligence/beat down?
  • 10 0
 A lady in a car cut across the lane on me and hit me head on at 39mph and told the cop, she didn't know she had to yield to bikes. She drove away, I was stretcherd away.@grizwald:
  • 2 0
 @grizwald: IIRC he was ejected from the Tour entourage immediately and asked not to come back.
  • 4 1
 @MelvieD: in the states, you can pretty much run over anybody and just say you did not see them and you are free of charges. The governament “does not want to alienate commuters”.
  • 5 0
 @MelvieD: I'd think you'd put up a criminal complaint for attempted murder. Since she testified, it shouldn't be a problem. Not knowing the road law is no excuse. She should have been convicted at least with heavily injuring you by negligence or something like that.
  • 2 0
 @MelvieD: ignorance doesn’t protect you from the law.
  • 5 0
 I had to hire a lawyer to get my bike compensated and medical bills paid. It took over a year, and I lost thousands from missing work, not to mention the mess it left of my body. State Farm insurance profited 3 billion that year and didn't want to pay my 20,000 in medical bills. She didn't even get a ticket@mitochris:
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 @MelvieD: That’s really shitty. How are cyclists seen in your state? I heard in the UK they have hardly any rights. Here in Sweden cyclists are quite protected by the law. In general, cars have to yield in most situations unless they are on a main road. They have to stop at zebra crossings too, if a cyclist is crossing, which is not he same in Germany, where you would have to push your bike over a zebra crossing.
  • 15 0
 I was watching this live. thought i just saw someone die. seriously...over the edge of what could have been a cliff!! I was waiting for him to drop the bike, but he tried to stop..
To see him give the thumbs up was such a relief. These guys regularly hit 90+kl/h on the downhills with no protection at all. Absolute respect for Gilbert just to get back on his bike. Pity about the injury causing him to withdraw from the race..
  • 21 4
 At least his bike and spandex are still in one piece.
  • 2 3
 lolol
  • 4 1
 i thought the same, he was lucky the bike didn't break in half lol
  • 16 2
 What’s really funny is watching the World Cupand seeing players act like Neymar...ridiculous
  • 4 0
 Yeah, like the roadie:soccer player 'pretends he is injured: pretends he is okay' memes.
  • 8 0
 In all my years of road racing I only crashed hard once in a criterium and it sucked. My palms were exposed down to white meat then the blood just started flowing.
  • 4 0
 Oh god that is the worst feeling. Looking down at white flesh just waiting for the blood...
  • 2 0
 @BlackVR: haha yeah. My girlfriend had to wash my hair for a few weeks because the shampoo would feel like acid in my hands. Overall contact with anything hurt like a son of a
  • 2 0
 I used to race an annual 100km event every year. In all the thousands of km I did training on my own and in other races I had one crash. Caused by a rider ahead in the peleton going down. I still have that one scar. MTB is a different story. So many scars and more recently some broken bones. I'd still rather risk it on the mountain than dice cars though...
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 @headshot: I rode and raced MTB for a good 3 years before I raced road. The road bike was a tool for MTB. The road is a different animal all in its own right. MTB crashes suck but that one crash on the road was worse than any MTB crash I have ever had. I returned to MTB racing in 2013 and strictly used the road bike, along with a power meter, for training only. Road is brutal and is very unforgiving when it comes to crashes.
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 @CaliCol: Not disputing that a road crash may well be more brutal. Just my experience that MTB has got me into far more trouble. I even got taken out by a car on the road once - but I was on my MTB riding to the trail. Did a somersault over the bonnet but survived with a sore calf muscle and minor abrasions....
  • 6 0
 Saw this a while ago and instantly thought...’that’s what you get for staring at the wall and not looking through the turn.’ Lmbo
Thanks for the laugh pal, reminds me of all the times I’ve done that. Haha
  • 2 1
 You infuriate me. A 33 year old father from Glendale, Arizona definitely knows more about riding a bike than a professional road racer. This is sarcasm. You know nothing. Go hibernate
  • 1 1
 @Joelukens00:
haha thanks for the laugh, been one of those days. Needed that.
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 Im sure there’s a lot of pressure to finish the stage, but I can’t imagine riding on injuries like that. Is it really worth risking the rest of your career to finish a stage of a race you likely won’t finish? Even worse it looks like the dudes in the suits were pushing him down the hill before he even saddled the bike. Like juicing up a race horse.
  • 1 0
 You're full of andrenaline. Basically if there isn't a bone sticking out of your leg and you can sit on the bike, then the rider will try to continue.
  • 6 0
 Inside line only with flats
  • 3 1
 And this, hurtling down a road, clearly unable to stop in the visible road as is recommended to all other road users, is fine. Yet e bikes on single track miles away from anyone are potentially going to need insurance. Weird, I'd have thought for people riding like the above in a non race scenario, which they do, have far more risk of hurting or killing themselves or others or causing damage to other road users or property. Imagine the above clip, out of a race and with an oncoming car around that blind bend. I'm not an e bike dude but it seems a bit lopsided.
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 If you're riding like this on a road not closed to uphill traffic, God bless you. The law concerns motorized vehicles capable of traveling above a designated speed, most of which will be found in a sub/urban setting? Still good for insurance companies.
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 @ceecee: I get you but I'm sure we've all seen roadies bombing down hills at speeds that are clearly too fast for the stopping distances of their bikes. All I'm saying is take the above situation out of a race and onto a road and even if the rider was going half the speed of the guy in the clip they'd never have avoided running into oncoming traffic. When that happens, who pays for the damage to the car? The car owner claims on their insurance which penalises them unfairly. It's not just relative to bombing down hills either, plenty of roadies get up to speeds akin to motorised vehicles on fairly benign gradients. Rights and wrongs of it aside, my point is how are these riders not expected to have insurance where the danger of collision at high speed is very real and very much higher than an e biker riding some quiet singletrack or a designated cycle track at a trail centre or similar. Seems unfair if the proposed legislation for e bike insurance comes in.
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 @toby9843: I didn't downvote...there's blood on the boot of my Cayman S and the bumper's scratched--who's gonna pay for it? Of all the injustice. Racers have insurance. Insurance employs office workers who surf on the clock. It's part of why bikes are expensive--see today's Big Honzo post comments.
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 @toby9843: "When that happens, who pays for the damage to the car?"

Don't you have mandatory liability insurance in GB? In all the countries I lived so far, by law any adult needs to subscribe to a liability insurance. Drivers have to subscribe to another liability insurance because a motorized vehicle can do much more damage than a pedestrian or cyclist could do.
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 @opignonlibre: No mate. No requirement for cyclists to have any insurance.
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 @ceecee: I concur
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 Went into that corner way too deep. Prolly trying to follow the motorcyclists line, which was bad also. And then he got near the apex, saw how tight the corner was, and fixated on the wall. This is why lines are important.
  • 3 0
 That just shows how close to the edge they ride downhill, one small adjustment to the racing line and he couldn't stop in time.
  • 6 2
 Ebikes, Roadies, next on Pink Bike is Cat videos. Seriously I think these guys are tough as nails..
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 Line choice was not really good, he could have gone more inside the previous turn to get with a bigger radius (he looks like he is entering the turn inside like sam hill!). He is also panicking and get unbalance by unclipping, He never really turn his shoulder and hip toward the turns.
On top of that, he would definitively need disc brakes. His front brake had no power and was not progressive enough and his braking was too late (also because of a poor line) Finally, a would not hurt if this bike was longer. I think there is lot of tradition involved in road bikes geometry and a revamp might help having bike safer without hurting the climbing abilities.
There is maybe to learn from roadies but they probably have to learn from mtb..
  • 7 4
 Ah, thanks Sherlock. Always easy to give advice on riding technique when you're sitting on the couch while he's in the middle of a multi-thousand kilometer race, with his paycheck and livelihood on the line
  • 7 0
 @jejsd It's true that the line choice was the cause of this crash - but these guys aren't able to recce every descent of every stage in the race so they're often riding it blind, or on a few years old memory, or after having watched a video of it. Gilbert obviously didn't know the left hander was as tight as it was so didn't slow down enough to be able to hold a tight exit line on the right hander. By the time he saw he'd made a mistake there was nothing going to save him.

Disc brakes, head angles, wheel base, bb height... nah. Doesn't matter what equipment he had at that point, if you're racing balls to the wall on a twisty, dark, blind cornered descent then sooner or later it'll happen.
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 @fabdemaere: @jejsd is spot on concerning line choice. Go read "The fine art of road racing a motorcycle" then say the cause of the crash wasn't crap line choice then him fixating on edge of the course.

Lot's of peep's on bikes that never rode motorcycles don't seriously think about things like line choice, braking technique, and even carrying speed. I'd imagine even less thought is given too it by roadies and XCO guys. The focus is on how light everything is and how fit they are.

But whatever....

If he had hung to the right, slowed down a little more, then squared the entrance to that corner he would've been able to see further through it, have more line options on the way out, been able to pick it up and get on the pedals, and generally look like a man. Instead he made a bee-line for the corner and wound up looking like a rag doll.
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 @wingguy: I hear ya, but line choice could easily have mitigated this. As I said before, squaring the entrance allows one to see further through the corner. Also, if you're not going in far too fast, your line options across the apex and through the exit are greater.

With the line he took straight at the apex he was blind to the nature of that corner until he was IN IT!
  • 2 0
 @jejsd Send Quick-Step your resume man they need you.
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 @BDKR: I never said @jejsd 's analysis wasn't spot on, I just implied that he's a massive c*nt for analyzing such a crash. The rider is more than capable of nailing that turn in normal conditions, he only made that mistake because he's exhausted from riding on the absolute limit for the past 3 weeks
  • 5 0
 I'm guessing no concussion protocol at the TDF
  • 5 0
 if they cant manage doping, they definitely cant manage concussions
  • 1 0
 @johncee: wow, that's astonishing...
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 @johncee: Luckily he was pulled from the race when the team car got to him, but it's shocking the neutral service guy helped him back on the bike.

A fundamental problem with road cycling in less clear cut cases though is that the races are massive. On the hardest days at a given moment you could have 200 people spread over 10km of road in any number of small groups. It's incredibly difficult to try and get a doctor to the scene of every crash before the rider is on the bike again.
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 Imagine if that was a footy (soccer to our American cousins) player, they would have either died or been off injured till the end of time. The UK coverage of this showed what he landed on and it was just a pile of rocks, just big f*ck off rocks. Lad did have a bottle cage though so at least he ticked the Enduro box, he’s definitely riding a session too.
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 It happened because he was riding a Specialized!
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 twitter.com/kwiato/status/621375705620840449
Someone should tell these guys that the speed limit on these roads is actually 80 kph.
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 That’s going to leave a mark. Chapeau to Phillipe for getting back on the bike after that.
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 That's Booldog's style, nothing but respect to the guy for riding away.
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 Sorry, not meant for you, useless phone
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 I guess foot out does not work for the roadies.... How a sheet of paper can make you go downnnnn....j
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 The downhill specialists in this sport are insane They literally have zero brake wear
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 Sagan especially, the man is amazing to watch on the downhills.
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 @redssjerm: Sagan crashed yesterday on a descent.
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 Rogatkin be like bitch hold my beer
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 And...dismount, single flip, over wall, back on bike, score man points.
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 He needs some 2.8 minions on that for better cornering
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 Glad he's ok... not going to lie, I LOL'd
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 Props to that dude for getting up and finishing. I would have been in an ambulance taken to the hospital and filled my mouth with percocet.
  • 1 0
 wonder what the sequence would have been had it not started with that ultra aero tuck, he looks a little late when coming out it, putting him wrong line for turn before
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 Target fixation: you go where you look.
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 Nah. Wrong line and had nowhere to go.
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 @jclnv: wrong line? Are you blind?
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 @yzedf: At the 4 second mark he should be on the right hand side of the road.

Can't believe I have to explain this.
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 @yzedf: He misdjudged the previous corner and ended up on the left side of the road prior to entering a left corner. Yup, wrong line.
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 @jclnv: you've obviously not done high speed road descending. The piece of paper was on the racing line. Look at how far he hit the wall from the apex of the next corner.

Can't believe I have to explain that LOL
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 @yzedf: I'm a Brit. We understand racing lines, our cars can corner.
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 @jclnv: I worked on Jaguar's for 8 years... They were much better at spreading oil around than they were at cornering.
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 @yzedf: My apologies.
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 Nightmare for the man no doubt, but the legs in the air looked like a bike crash from looney toons, good laugh. He should have held it out wide instead of cutting that 90-degree duck's arse bend!
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 except that a rider died from a very similar crash on the same descent at almost the same point 23 years ago which kind of ruins the fun big time!
Do you think of looney toons when a rider stacks it and goes OTB in a rockgarden? 'cause that's what you just saw

He went for the fast line, it's a race the gamble just didn't pay off this time. Watch the motos line through the same corner, notice when the rider starts to correct and notice where there's shade on the road. Moto held it because of more grip and lower entry speed
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 @LoveTheRide-Thunderbolt:

so serious, Thunderbolt. I wouldn't have had any laugh at all except that he is seen seconds later in the video looking uninjured and back on his bike. The 'hold it wide' is clearly in jest, batman.

How do you know a rider died after crashing there previously?
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 @Vastusaurus: The fact that there's a monument for Casartelli 1 corner further down the road and the videos of him lying still while the road is covered in blood kinda proves it.
It's even mentioned further up in the comments...
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 Mountain biking is still more fun
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 Always wear a full face helmet!
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 When will they make road bikes stable? Insane twitch on what looks like perfect asphalt. But Jesus that fall could of been off a cliff, how scary
  • 2 0
 he's braking hard, to the point where the tyres are about to loose traction. Braking causes a bike to stand up. Combine those two and you have a twitching bike Smile
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 Soccer/ football players should watch this. This guy took some tri-actin........ Tri acting like a man!!
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 Isnt it the same corner that Fabio Casartelli crashed and passed away at in 95?
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 from what i understand, that crash occurred a bit further down the same stretch of road
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 Yes. About 10m further back.
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 He had just passed the monument
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 Take a look at his Facebook and his swollen knee... It's a warrior, or a no Brainer....
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 Could you imagine if he was a soccer player?????? You would need to get a vacuum truck to suck up all the tears!!!
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 What would Waki troll with... Neymar wouldn't have gone down. Typical roadies..
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 Gilbert’s are tough S.O.Bs
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 Dropper for the win
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 Ha this guy needs to teach footballers(soccer) how to man up
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 Finished the stage with a broken knee cap...
  • 1 0
 I think it's time for Boost Road hubs
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 anyone can ride in the woods or jump shit; narrow/no shoulders and truck's mirrors passing near your head at 90kmh is the real gnar
  • 1 0
 why didnt he go wider? smh
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 target fixation. he panicked
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 I'm sorry, that's not "insane" worthy...
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 brakes, what!
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 Glad he is okay.
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 Do you even drift Bro?
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 Weak sauce
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 I love it when roadies crash.
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 Looks like a Session.
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 prehaps the 200 yr old technology brakes were beyond their limits here
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 Read up on your high school physics, learn how a bike handles and watch the video a few times Wink
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