Pinkbike Awards 2015: Mountain Bike of the Year Winner

Jan 14, 2016 at 18:27
by Pinkbike Staff  
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Mountain Bike of the Year Winner

Trek Remedy 29 9.9


What sort of attributes should the Mountain Bike of the Year winner possess? The champ obviously has to offer best-in-class performance, that much is a no-brainer, and it's something that all three candidates can lay claim to in one way or another. The pricey but spectacular Trek Remedy 29 9.9 makes other do-it-all bikes look like they'd be better described as do-it-all-so-so bikes; Cannondale's fun-loving Habit Carbon SE is among the best handling rigs out there; YT's impressively priced, carbon fiber Tues CF Comp downhill bike performs better than competition that costs much, much more.

Of those three, it's Trek's Remedy 29 9.9 that takes the win due to its otherworldly performance that, so long as you can get past its price tag, will make you wonder why you'd ever need separate cross-country, trail, and all-mountain bikes.





Trek Remedy 29 review

Trek Remedy 29 9.9

Given that it has a $8,799.99 USD price tag on it, the Remedy 29 9.9 better perform well. But it doesn't... it performs incredibly well, almost to the point where it's not fair to other bikes in the same travel bracket, not to mention shaming some shorter and longer travel machines when talking about areas where they should be able to easily beat the Remedy. The 140mm travel 9.9 weighs just 25.8lb, a number helped in no small part by its obviously lightweight frame and XX1 drivetrain, but don't forget about the dropper post and 140mm travel Pike RCT3 fork, components that say, "I may be light, but I'm ready to get rowdy if you are."

The Remedy 29 9.9 wins because it legitimately blurs the lines between categories - I'm trying really hard not to refer to it as a "quiver killer" but that is exactly what Trek has created. The bike ascends like a Saturn V rocket, but it's also the very same chassis that's won hairy stages at Enduro World Series events, making it an all-rounder that's worthy of putting on your list of dream bikes.

Of course, the 9.9's price is also a good reason that many of us will only be able to dream of it, but anyone lucky or hard working enough to throw a leg over the Remedy 29 9.9 will know exactly what why it's a worthy winner.
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319 Comments

  • 613 53
 meh
  • 79 20
 indeed
  • 103 24
 Much meh, very lame, quite boring.
  • 72 48
 How is is boring? where you hoping for a Electric assist with some fancy turbo set up? If the bike rides and feels good on the trails then it deserves to have this title.
  • 185 58
 Dunno, I really didn't want to see a 29er as bike of the year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • 68 8
 at least its not the cannondale habit then i woulda freaked out
  • 129 8
 i'd rather build a 40 foot loop
  • 119 33
 Haven't ridden it but stunning bike. Far nicer than 90% of the boat anchors people jizz about on here.
  • 66 21
 It's the bike of the year and none of us can afford it. Brilliant. Just Brilliant.
  • 65 5
 Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.
  • 37 0
 Looks like a... oh wtf.
  • 50 92
flag rivercitycycles Plus (Jan 19, 2016 at 11:47) (Below Threshold)
 I wonder how much Trek paid for that honor?
  • 89 14
 Trek probably paid nothing for this article and pinkbike has tested the bike and pushed it to its limit to say its the best bike that they have ridden.
sheesh what is wrong with all these mountain bikers disagreeing with a MOUNTAIN BIKE?
  • 20 6
 Yes it would make sense for Trek to pay big bucks for a solid review here. Because after reading praise for this steed you all will run out and drop 9k immediately on it .... oh waitttttt
  • 59 5
 They would all obviously be happy if it were given to YT, or some other "cool" brand.

Trek makes fantastic bikes, and if you've ever ridden a Remedy, you wouldn't be surprised that it won.
  • 26 2
 Oh yeah, I am sure it's an amazing bike, like any bike to win PB's bike of the year. Everyone just loves b*tchin' over this stuff.
  • 39 2
 Is it then coincidence that it was Dirt's bike of the year last year? Probably not. Plus the fact it was ridden by TMO to victory and Leov was leading until his injury.... I think its just a damn good bike.
  • 9 9
 I know right. Some of the tripe that spews forth from the O so enlightened.
  • 44 1
 Maybe create a category for best used bike under$1000, for those that bitch about the price of things.
  • 36 2
 This website is slowly becoming like face book to me. Everytime I go on it I get annoyed as hell at all the dumb usually young idiots complaining about absolutly nothing. Cant even read comments anymore ????
  • 20 12
 If I was to spend 9grand on a bike it would be a custom build. No personality with off the shelf goods. You can't buy cool you have to build it. I sure don't want to spend this much to show up at the trail and see you on my bike.
  • 13 5
 Though I do remember an article written by one of the editors at Dirt Rag, saying that he received an email from Trek, that was intended to go to Pinkbike, about buying good reviews. I would link it, but im having trouble finding it. Ill do some more digging
  • 8 2
 ^^^please do!
  • 12 24
flag pinnityafairy (Jan 19, 2016 at 13:59) (Below Threshold)
 Trek the second most HATED bike co. No they did not pay me to post that.
  • 10 4
 @properp Why would they pay you to say that they are hated?
  • 8 1
 Ya know if only PB did a review on the Evil Following... Oh well Trek I guess is music for the masses.
  • 7 6
 What I find interesting is they chose the 29 over the 27.5. I had been leaning towards a 27.5 but didn't want to miss out on the options Boost offers. This award makes my choice easier.
For 2016 Trek, for some reason, decided to sell the 9.9 in frame only, I'm wondering why?
  • 11 2
 @properp "Cool" is what you DO on a bike, not how you look on a bike. I doubt anyone would think you were uncool if you showed up riding a 9.9 Remedy, or are you in the skinny jeans crowd?
  • 8 6
 @Satn69 Agreed. Remedy 29 over the Evil Following? Hard to believe that one.
  • 3 5
 Bike of the year......that bike that is sold at a good price point, with decent parts.
  • 5 3
 Lol I live for neg props but I can see my previous comment might have two interpretations. The enlightened I refer to are my fellow forum contributors not PB. Anyway I've spent way too much time giving my worthless opinion on a bike I never could afford. Peace.
  • 8 6
 Apparently 26 IS dead. R.I.P.
  • 9 5
 Enough about the Evil Following. The rear centre length is a joke.
  • 9 2
 i ride a remedy 9 29. have tested everything from the big brands and with a 160mm fork this is the fastest bike that I've been on
  • 4 8
flag fattyreryder (Jan 19, 2016 at 18:09) (Below Threshold)
 Road & Track car of the Year Toyota Prius!!
  • 6 21
flag jm2e (Jan 19, 2016 at 18:12) (Below Threshold)
 Is this an award for a bike frame design, or for an expensive build kit? Anyone can put together a $9000 bike. In this case, I'm actually surprised they didn't bling it up more for that price? Couldn't find a better/more expensive fork than a Pike? Couldn't work out a deal with Enve and I9? Couldn't get it built up with ProCore? Didn't have enough clout with Shimano to get electronic shifting? Oh, what's that Pinkbike? You give an award for a drivetrain that relies on a front derailleur mount that most all mountain bikes are being designed without? Whoops, not an option here!
Now, if they'd said something like, "The Remedy 29 is an awesome frame design that anyone could build a bike around. Do it as a 30lbs SLX midrange and it shreds just as well as the rich boys XX1 overpriced weight weenie billboard!", then I'd be inclined to care.
Way too many good bikes out there to care about what components Trek has arbitrarily decided to sell to the highest bidder.
  • 25 4
 @jm2e jesus f*ucking titties man, its a bike. They liked it. Youre no expert. Shut the F*CK up
  • 10 9
 @PLMedia I'm sure this bike is super fast, But I wouldnt bring it to the Bike Park... PB is to me is Gravity Oriented website, that's why PB peeps are not happy with this choice
  • 5 5
 Just read the ones with a maple leaf over it
  • 20 4
 Unless you've ridden a 2015 Remedy you really have no weight in this conversation. If you own a Remedy 9 like i do, then you'd know how hard this bike rips and would agree.
  • 1 1
 @deadtime I also wonder why there isn't a complete 9.9 for this year. I just got a '16 9.8 29, though, and it's a few thousand cheaper than the 9.9. It's got a build that's better for my taste: full XT with a 36/26 and more importantly, a 36 Float up front. No, it's FOX bits aren't Kashima coated, but so far, it's a rocket. I'm glad I didn't choose the smaller wheel size. Check one out when you can.
  • 1 1
 Than buy a cheaper remedy with the same frame. It was not the kit that made this the bike of the year IMO. But i aggree that is really expensive.
  • 1 1
 Maybe they have a Project One Remedy in the works hence lack of high end models this time. When you get that high in the price range makes more sense to me to offer it that way
  • 1 6
flag pinnityafairy (Jan 20, 2016 at 7:13) (Below Threshold)
 @deadtime Can you even whip bro? Just go dream about that 9.9 Have cool dreams.
  • 4 3
 Yeah pretty funny pinkbike naming this the bike of the year and Trek doesn't even produce a 9.9 for 2016. I owned a remedy 9 this past year and I'll agree with @hoolydooly that it absolutely Shreds anything. I took that sucker to the park everyweekend and sent her right down the thick of it, then Mammoth and Northstar over the summer. Never let me down once. The only thing that was down, was my spoke tensions! Too much sidways landings!
  • 1 1
 That would be an awesome read.
  • 1 3
 Big bike of the year winner...http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1852607/
  • 2 1
 New long travel 29'r bike incoming? 2015 was the final push on 650 expect 2017 to be back towards 29 with trek/Spesh/santacruz
  • 2 0
 I'm thinking the Wreckoning may well be a contender next year
  • 1 1
 Amen,nothing like a marketing ploy.will roadies be next? Hey Gary I got an idea!
  • 261 4
 Mountain Bike of the Year 2015 Winner:
Whatever bike you've got and have had all those good times on through the year!
  • 24 1
 Damn straight! That thing looks ace, but for 95% of riders you'd notice the benefits but it's never make as much difference as riding two more times a week.
  • 12 1
 sure thing, just get out and ride more! Smile
  • 10 29
flag cunning-linguist (Jan 19, 2016 at 10:53) (Below Threshold)
 Plus this is all probably based around who spent most on marketing with PB this year than anything else. We all know how it works!
  • 16 0
 Truth from Holden. The best bike is the one you have.
  • 18 0
 26' with seized seatpost. Smile
  • 1 0
 amen
  • 8 0
 at 8 800 usd$ i won't have any money left to pay gaz for a mountain bike trip
  • 4 0
 Comment of the Year award was just decided here
  • 5 0
 @holden-biking hit the nail on the head, well said sir. Having said that, I was fortunate enough to purchase a 2016 Remedy 9.8 29 in November....and let me just say WOW, loving this bike and looking forward to many more miles to come. Ps: Only mod I made was to drop the front DR & shifter & go 1x, for me nothing else needed.
  • 128 1
 Na na na na na na na na, na na na na na na na na, na na na na na na na NINE GRAND!!!!!!!
  • 80 0
 That like a zillion of our Canadian dollars.
  • 67 0
 Our CAD dollar has fallen faster than I can go downhill...
  • 8 0
 I need to plan a trip to Whistler . . .
  • 17 0
 8900 USD = 12 964 Canadian $
  • 15 23
flag Alias530 (Jan 19, 2016 at 14:15) (Below Threshold)
 Some of us went to college and $9k for something that makes you happy is worth it.

People spend way WAYYY more than that on cars that they couldn't go around a track with any faster than a lesser car.
  • 8 0
 Think about it for a second. You can the best specced, any bike you want for around 4000 used a few times
  • 6 19
flag Alias530 (Jan 19, 2016 at 16:16) (Below Threshold)
 @ibishreddin Not everyone wants to have someone else's old bike.
  • 15 4
 U can get a new capra pro for $4500 that will give you the same enjoyment to ride and spend the remaining $4400 on 48 cataract operations allowing impoverished people people to see again at $50 a pop. Some of us went to college and still understand value
  • 3 16
flag GeorgeHayduke (Jan 19, 2016 at 21:11) (Below Threshold)
 You (not U) clearly went to college, judging by your math and grammar.
  • 10 4
 My apologies for using abbreviations in a chat forum and not proof reading my comment when I'm 50 and autistic I will start just for u. By the way did you get the point of the comment or did u miss it and just worry about the spelling?
  • 52 8
 Kudos to PB for sticking their neck out, despite vehement reader disagreement that a bike with this price tag, 29 wheels and anything less than 160mm could possibly win bike of the year. However, in both the nomination and this article, it really is stating that only this top end build is this good. What about the lower spec Remedy's? How worthy are they? Is the only way to get a quiver killer to spend $9k? Because then do we need to ask if you aren't better off buying three $3k bikes to perhaps do it all better. Certainly a $3k YT Tues would rip dh better than this bike for instance.
  • 27 0
 I'd love to try a YT, but since they don't make an XL, it would look like a monkey humping a football.
  • 5 0
 I'm 6'2" and many larges are just fine for me. Some companies, like Intense, make XLs that are too big for me and clearly for 6'4" and taller. Gotta throw a leg over one. Without distribution, this is obviously a shortcoming of YTs direct sales model.
  • 5 0
 You are correct. I'm 6'5". An XL is mandatory, in my case.
  • 1 0
 bah, wrong reply. sorry.
  • 2 0
 Good point. A quiver killer for 9000 or a quizer. A really good start anyway
  • 3 1
 @Rubberelli Someone tipped me off the other day that this 9.9 29 was going to get the nod. I also wondered why the lower spec models weren't considered... the 9.8 29 kicks ass (though it's still pretty spendy)
  • 2 1
 Oh great, I was afraid of this, a real quiver killer (not like the dozens of fake "quiver killers" that came before it).

And I was just about to bring my carbon-fibre, slope-style, eco-friendly mtb quiver to market! Thanks for nothing Trek!
  • 5 0
 I agree, and gotta give props to PB for giving bike of the year to Trek. It is far more fashionable to give it to a smaller boutique style brand than a giant monolith of a company. I am sure the heads at PB were bracing for fallout and bitching about this choice and did it anyhow. I have ridden a ton of bikes and I have been on a Remedy since 2014 and I absolutely love it. It is the greatest bike I have ridden, period. Friends and family who have ridden it have sold their bikes an bought a Remedy. So maybe the haters can pluck their proverbial panties that are wadded up out of the ass long enough to put a leg over the bike and give it a ride and see if the bike earns the title.....at least then they could speak from a place of experience rather than ignorance of hating a brand simply because it is a big brand.
  • 1 1
 It's just hard to believe, that's all. For years, Trek was the suspension MTB you avoided like the plague. They really came late to the party, and tried to cheapskate their way along on the Armstrong brand. If this bike is really this good, it's an amazing transition, but Trek still has a lot of community distrust to overcome. As do 29ers. And 9K is a BIG risk to take with a brand that you couldn't trust in the past.
  • 1 0
 @whatever-dude While not cheap, this year's 9.8 with full XT is a rad buy for about 40% less than the price of last year's 9.9. It's got better wheels, marginally wider bars, and a Float 36.
  • 2 0
 @whatever-dude - where have you been? The Session has been the most plagiarized DH bike for something like 5years and 29ers have ruled the podiums at EWS for the past couple of seasons. However, the average PB commenter is still a bit wary of anything that doesn't come with a dual crown.
  • 35 3
 *insert evil the following, transition carbon patrol were robbed comment*

I own an evil following and it was built up at half of this 9k price and weighs only 1.5lb more, and the thing just flat shreds. I'm sure the trek is good but for 9k i'm sure most bikes are pretty dang compotent. I'm happy the following and carbon patrol are getting a little more press on VitalMTB, I really think those smaller agressive trail bikes are the way of the future when people start to realize they don't need a full 160mm enduro bike for many of their home trails
  • 14 0
 I agree, a lot of us don't need all that travel and a shorter legged bike can be a more well rounded bike. Shorter travel with the same slack lines as the big boys makes a lot of sense to me, especially with amazing dampers these days. I know it's blasphemy around here but these shorter travel slack rides with 29" wheels sound awesome too. To that end I can see why the Remedy got the award though.
  • 3 0
 Agreed. I just built up my Evil Following and it came in at en even 26lbs. For the 0.2lbs I'll keep my evil black beauty!
  • 5 2
 I saw Evil Following today in the workshop. Holy Sweet Jesus... As to that Remedy - 160 Lyrik - I wonder...
  • 2 0
 Just chased my buddy on his Following with my Remedy 29 yesterday.... pretty rad how far 29ers have come in the last 2 years. Being 6'5", the 650b wheeled Remedy and the Insurgent just don't have a big value proposition for me.
  • 33 0
 Something somethint nine thousand dollars
  • 13 1
 Yeah its ridiculous, but you can always get the Remedy 9 that has 95% of the performance for 50% of the price. The remedy 8 is priced at $3500USD and is probably 90% of the performance.
  • 7 0
 Yep! Even the 9.8 retails for 5400$ and the only difference is X1 drivetrain/XT brakes instead of XX1/XTR and the ka$hima coat on the shock. Probably 99.99% of the performance.

I don't know who in their right mind would spend that kind of money on a showroom bike just so they can say they have the best of the best
  • 2 0
 I think the outcome would have been 99.99% better received if they had awarded it to the Remedy 9.8 or Remedy 8.
  • 6 18
flag Alias530 (Jan 19, 2016 at 14:15) (Below Threshold)
 Some of us went to college and $9k for something that makes you happy is worth it.
  • 11 2
 Alias, how many replies are you going to make, saying the same thing. A little smug about being able to over-pay for bikes, are we?
  • 13 0
 Some of us went to college but we still need to sell our old P.O.S. 120mm stems for $15....
  • 1 0
 Everyone that replied is a scientist that majored in statistics it seems
  • 3 7
flag Alias530 (Jan 19, 2016 at 16:19) (Below Threshold)
 @StanMarsh - better to throw it away, right? I don't NEED to sell it, it's more about helping the community. Because some people out there can't afford new stuff so I sell my old stuff.
  • 8 2
 Ha get off your high horse, help the community by selling garbage for $$...ok lol. Call the papers: "College boy with $9k bike generously sells used bike parts from 1996 to underprivileged youth"
  • 5 15
flag Alias530 (Jan 19, 2016 at 16:44) (Below Threshold)
 What a f*cking retard you are... it's a never used take-off from 2015 and I'm selling it for like 1/4 of what it costs new.

If you want to dig into what you and I are selling, looks like you sold a size SMALL bike. Short insecure a*shole are you?
  • 5 2
 bahhah you mad bro? uhh I sold a M soda and now I'm on a M Aurum good try tho. Im starting to think this college boy doesn't even have that $9k bike he's going off about
  • 5 3
 I as well have a college degree, make over 100k a year, and still think 9k for a bike is f-ing ridiculous. Certainly not trying to boast, I know nobody cares.
  • 12 0
 Haha, I love this thread! Somebody please tell me what life is like with a college degree! It sounds like unicorns and rainbows and not worrying about rational decisions...
  • 7 1
 @bishopsmike It's not it's cracked up to be. My job isn't even in my field of study, just like 70% of all other college grads according to a survey I made up.
  • 3 6
 @StanMarsh - Size M is still manlet status, but you did sell a size S Norco

@bishopsmike - So you think that the guy who spent $50-100k on their Corvette/GTR/911/etc to commute to work is perfectly reasonable but spending 1/10th as much on a bike is ludicrous?
  • 6 2
 I sell crack to college students and I still think $9k is a lot of bread. Do you even know how much crack you can make with $9k bro?
  • 4 0
 I agree, great thread. College degrees and $9K bikes (size M or larger) - the keys to happiness my friends. Good to know.
  • 21 2
 Trek Slash Carbon frame lasted me 3 months and rear triangle snapped in two...Little kicker and that was that...Trek wont warranty it even though it was on film...Luckily my bike shop is covering it, thank you Bicycle Centers of Silverlake...Moral of my story dont trust Trek Carbon...
  • 12 1
 Same thing happened to my aluminum slash. They also refused to warranty it at first. It took an entire summer (without a bike) of countless phone calls and bike shop visits before they finally agreed to remedy the situation. Moral of the story, don't buy a Trek.
  • 4 3
 Perhaps it didn't get warrentied because it was on film? And construed that it was outside of its intended use?
  • 3 1
 Nope didnt want to see it...They want to xray wtf
  • 1 0
 That's weird, it's no way to keep a customer anyways.
  • 1 0
 Heard from a friend, who has a carbon Session, that he's gonna sell it cause he feels, that it would break, if he ride it more Razz
  • 1 0
 Ya I'm going back to Al. Knolly Warden style...That feeling your friend has is legitimate...
  • 2 0
 seems like you had a bad session slashing your bike, and trek didnt give a very good remedy...
  • 2 1
 treking after too many sessions can seriously slash your race budget...
  • 2 0
 Trek warrantied my Scratch chainstays even after 3 years of abuse. In fact I was a few months out of warranty. Since they didn't have anymore chainstays in stock they gave me a brand new Scratch 9 frame, brand new rear shock included, even tho the chainstays I broke were off a Scratch 7. Moral of my story. Buy a Trek. Every time.
  • 18 0
 What! You didn't pick my bike! This is outragous! I demand a recount!

Seriously though, there are about 10 bikes, including this one, that I could see being picked as "bike of the year".
  • 17 2
 I work at a bike shop and own this bike. I have ridden 26ers most of my life and took a chance with this platform. I also own a 27.5 park bike, but this is by far the funnest bike I have ever ridden. It can handle Colorado's long steep climbs like a xc bike and bomb bike parks like a dh bike. It is by far no dh bike, but it jumps insanely well and crushes techy terrain with ease. It is by far one of the fastest, all around bikes I have ever owned and I have owned a few including, Yeti SB 66, Pivot Firebird and Trek Remedy 26er.
Why do haters seem to be the ones that know everything, yet never demo or actually know what their talking about? Its really not that hard to go demo bikes and if the haters took 2 minutes to realize that if it weren't for Trek, Specialized, Giant and other big brands, there would not be a bike industry. The big guys sell to all levels of riders, not just the ones that shred. Not to mention, they back up their products with warrantees. I won't mention what small company I had issues with, but I just needed some warrantee work done and they basically blew me off. I learned the hard way I guess. I work at a bike shop so that I can purchase bikes like this one and learn about all the amazing technologies the bike industry churns out. To be fair, I have access to Scott as well, but hands down the Trek full floater suspension is the cushiest and most forgiving platform that I have ever been on.

I really enjoy all of the bike reviews PB puts out and feel like the PB staff have ridden and reviewed a lot of bikes this last year. I don't think the award was called the "Cheapest Best Mountain Bike Award".

www.pinkbike.com/u/climbeze/album/2015-Trek-Remedy-99-29/?directtofirstphoto
  • 15 0
 Why is everyone bitching about the price?

Its a bike, that's expensive. The sky is falling........

It works really well, so much so a website named its the best they've ridden over the past year.

Get over it.
  • 3 17
flag cragus-t (Jan 19, 2016 at 13:23) (Below Threshold)
 Because we're not all rich c*nts
  • 10 3
 So, in your book, any individual who has worked their way into a well-paid career is automatically a c*nt? Heaven forbid somebody spends their hard-earned money (irrespective of scale) in the pursuit of fun...
  • 3 15
flag cragus-t (Jan 19, 2016 at 14:31) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry got bored after so
  • 3 0
 Maybe that quick-to-bore attitude is part of what prevented you from becoming part of said "rich c*nt" club. Yes? No?
  • 1 5
flag cragus-t (Jan 20, 2016 at 7:01) (Below Threshold)
 Zzzzzzzzzz
  • 2 0
 Holy fuck the sky is falling too! Bad day all around.
  • 1 1
 Its raining men!
  • 19 1
 Let the whining commence
  • 17 2
 Sorry Trek you lost me when you wouldn't warranty a chain stay snapping while laying down the power on my road bike. I'll keep my E29 the original 29-er quiver killer.
  • 9 2
 BMW didn't make an e29 ????
  • 3 2
 The E29 S-works is also in the same price class and weights 27,1lb (12,3kg), but it has better downhill performance for sure.
  • 3 8
flag allix2456 (Jan 19, 2016 at 12:20) (Below Threshold)
 Actually, it's in a completely different category. An Enduro 29 is comparable to a Slash, which has much more descending prowess than an outdated Specialized frame that supports unnecessary proprietary design, and shady business practices.
  • 4 0
 Which is outdated the slash or E29? E29 rips
  • 5 6
 No, no, Spesh hasn't had an original idea since…. oh right. They haven't ever.
  • 6 1
 The Enduro 29 was an original idea..........
  • 17 2
 I just wanted to post before everyone vehemently disagrees.
  • 18 9
 Really? I can appreciate what Trek is doing but wtf?

There are better bang for the buck bikes. There are better cost is not option bikes.

Why not something like one of the YT offerings. A company that took the industry by storm last year and provided bikes to many event podium standing athletes. A company that's offering something different to the industry.

Me personally... I can't figure out why the hell people think it totally makes sense to drop $10k on an MTB when you can get a nice dirt bike for less. That uses similar technology, more materials... and has a motor. Industries like MTB and ski/snowboard are just reaming people right now. Reminding me of oil companies. Hit them while they don't know they're being hit. Once the ruffies wear off we'll have to reduce the price until they forget what happened and we can ruffie them again.



Either way... tangent over. Weird selection for bike of the year.
  • 7 1
 PB has a separate category for best value. But the confusion is appropriate because the Tues is nominated in this category for being a great value and a good bike in one.
  • 5 1
 STOP with the MTB vs dirt bike comparison... please go to google and type in "economies of scale" and do some reading. BUT good point, this is a weird choice for bike of the year
  • 2 3
 You should go google "economies of scale". I understand the economy of scale. At it's simplest more production/bigger facilities lower production cost per unit because it's spread further across the product line.

That's one of the reasons a hand built super car costs so much more than a honda civic. One of many... but you get the point.

I understand what it takes to build a bike and I know how many are made. That doesn't completely devalue the principle behind the idea. Beyond that... I'm allowed to have an opinion.

MTB/Dirt bike is a natural comparison because they are the most similar from industry to industry. You're not going to compare a Trek to an air plane. And dollar to dollar they cost per unit to the end user is similar. You can get a $5500 product in both or spend a hell of a lot more.

But if you want to go there lets compare production numbers....

Trek makes around 1.5-1.6 million bikes a year. KTM makes 150k. If we're going to simplify this to the ideals of the economies of scale alone then Trek's production costs per unit are spread much much further.

But those numbers are skewed because a huge portion of Trek's bikes are of the sub $1200 variety.

So if you compared the 9's to a similarly priced KTM the numbers would flush out much less bias.

There is a lot that goes in to it.
  • 1 0
 Let's also not forget that there is a far greater demand for mountain bikes than dirt bikes, not the least of which is the local nature area near you probably allows mtb and not motos. For instance, if a nice kids full suspension mountain bike existed for under $500, they might be as plentiful as bmx bikes or game consoles.
  • 1 0
 I think your greatly understating the amount of moto's sold worldwide and overstating the number of mtb.
And you can buy a top line mtb like this trek for $10k, yet you have lots of entry level bikes that will shred if your looking for the lower price.

Try to find a worthy moto bike that is $2k (I'm no expert but just looking on CL everything is $3k+ used) You guys are comparing the top tier "Bike of the year" mtb to an entry level or average moto. How much would a pro supercross moto sell for?
  • 1 2
 I'm not understating anything @StanMarsh. I gave you numbers for 2 brands and 2 brands only. Both are as accurate as you're going to find unless you can get access to their annual reports. And I already said that the comparison would be much closer if you just took the higher end Trek's and compared those to the KTM numbers.

@Rubberelli I can agree with the direction you're going.
  • 2 2
 @StanMarsh - according to this, only 81,000 dirt bikes were sold in the US in 2014.
www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-news/statistics/motorcycle-sales-statistics.htm
I would bet WalMart sells more "mountain bikes" than that each day in the US.
My point being if they made very high quality bikes (maybe the equivalent of a $4k one) for $500 - $1,000, everyone would have one. Obviously, economy of scale could make this so, but it would have to be OEM spec (not separate component manufacturers) and models would have to stay unchanged for a few years to allow high production numbers.
  • 2 0
 Moto has what 5/6 big brands where MTB has 15 or more top brands trying to make the next best DH/Enduro bike. The top moto companies have 15%-20%(estimate) of all moto sales and I can guarantee you that trek did not sell 15% of all enduro bikes last year or ever. You asked how a bike can be $10k. Its because trek needs to compete with 20 other companies in R&D to build the bike of the year. Then that bike has very specific parts that can't be used on other bikes(unlike moto) and these parts are only used on top end bikes (sram xx1) These components are on very few bikes- therefore zero economies of scale. And bike shops aren't stocking 50+ of these, maybe 1-5 so the shop gets no volume discount.

@Rubberelli Im not sure what your talking about, maybe just your writing. But this was moto vs mtb and your talking about wal mart and how Wal mart should make a $4k bike for $500?
  • 1 1
 @stanmarsh - we were just talking about economies of scale. If mtb companies got seriously capitalized, they could make bikes much cheaper, but it would be like moto in that there would just be a few companies controlling most of the supply, OEM specs and bikes would not change much year to year. They would sell millions upon millions of them at the $500-$1000 price point because that's what average consumers expect a nice FS to cost. Wal Mart however would probably never sell anything above $150 because that's their business model (just as they don't sell the higher end TVs). I just mentioned them to show the demand of the general public for mountain bikes, as they sell a shit ton of those shitty ones that just collect dust in people's garages when they break two weeks in.
  • 2 1
 @StanMarsh I think you're on the right track with R&D and total brands in the game. Top end components and things like that can completely shift the cost of production because they're not made in house.

That's why I was saying a lot more goes in to final cost.

I was basically breaking everything down to the simplest form. Much much more goes in to it. Do I think that the mtb industry is out of it's mind with cost per unit. Yes. Is that going to change. Nope. Just gonna get worse. Just like the ski/snowbaord industry.

My main thing was that there are plenty of examples of companies selling $10k mtb's that are rad. What about companies that are selling just as nice of a bike for $2-3k less... companies like YT that are trying to do something different and get better bikes into the public as affordably as possible. Companies like that should be recognized in categories like this.

But, honestly... it was just a rant because I need a new bike and I can't afford one right now. LOL!
  • 10 1
 Just out of curiosity, I see a bunch of people bagging on this bike, but who here has actually ridden it? I would like to hear what they have to say. Not the people who bought one new, because who likes to admit they made a bad 9k choice? I mean the people who bought the lower end version or who bought one used. Their opinion could be a little more unbiased.
  • 11 3
 I've ridden it, twice. They said it'd change my mind about 29ers. It did not. It confirmed for me why I dislike 29ers: hard to lift the front wheel, slow handling, etc. Also, I've ridden many Treks over the past few years, and I find they pedal like crap without using propedal, CTD, or whatever. There are a lot of bikes that pedal just fine without switches that are more deserving of Bike of the Year.
  • 4 0
 Strange, I worked at an independent shop that vehemently was against Trek and Spez. After riding just about everything imaginable, I ended up with the 9.8 Fuel, since around here you don't need the extra inch of travel. It pedals beautifully, corners great, and loves to get airborn. For the price, I went outside my shop to get that type of performance. If I hadn't a 160mm bike already, the Remedy would have indeed been a one-bike solution for me. Considering a carbon Tallboy with same spec rode higher in it's travel and cost about 2k more, not sure why I would've gone that route. Same with just about every other niche brand I tried. Can't make everyone happy, but owning the little sibling, I totally understand their choice.
  • 5 0
 2012 Remedy 8 was my first mountain bike. Absolutely loved it. Remedies rip, plain and simple....
  • 2 1
 I tried it and it freaking rips! It actually feels as plush or maybe even plusher on the downhills than my current 160mm ride (norco range 26) and I don't have to use nearly as much body english on the climbs to keep it under control. It feels really really balanced, as much at home on an all day pedal as it is on a rough tech downhill.

My norco still works just fine and I don't see the need to replace it for now, but I can see why the remedy get such good reviews. I think it was also bike of the year on Dirt, it's not just a marketing thing.
  • 2 1
 I owned this exact model for about a year, and every moment of it was bliss. Insanely supportive on the climbs, but incredibly forgiving on the descents. In addition, it is a very playful geometry, and a bike that can truly keep up with an XC bike and an enduro bike (and I did, and more!). I understand that people are whining about the price, but if PB is making this choice based on the bike's performance, then they are 100% on it.
  • 2 0
 IMO; Best product of the year should be a balance between performance and price AKA "value". The Honda Accord keeps getting best car of the year but only in its category. It's not going head to head with a Porsche or a Ferrari. Think of it, the best bang for your buck bike may only sell for 2K. There are many ways of looking at it. this kind of review is why people think that you need to spend big bucks to ride. I had to replace my X0 rear mech for an X5 last year while I waited for a replacement, during that time I rode for over a month, 3 days a week and when it came time to replace it, I had completely forgotten that I was riding an entry level rear derailleur on my M9 it worked so well. Was the OX worth it? for the weight yes; but when I need to replace it the next time, the price of that X5 is going to remind me how much the lines between quality and value get blurred. We want to invite more people into this sport, not scare them away with the price tag.
  • 8 1
 Lets face it, a supermarket special was not going to win was it!
Its 'mountain bike of the year'. Not 'best value of the year' or 'best dh rig of the year' or even 'best bargin German rig of the year'.
By definition therefore, its the bike you can go mountain biking on and for most, thats slogging up a hill, ripping down it and at best doing small doubles slash drops.
If it was the cheaper version, it would not have won as it would be a heavier beast.
So in the end, will I buy one. Er no. Its costly as f&£k but as with all these things like dry trails, sunny days, clean off shore surf etc etc, more often than not, we are litterly confined to dreaming about it by going some where discreet and firing off the yoghurt cannon on the matter.
  • 1 0
 Somehow I dont think this would have been bike of the year if the editor had to buy the bike with their own money. "Bike of the year" should be the bike that is great in all categories, including value.
  • 7 0
 It's a Hell of a Bike. But the Trek Remedy 9.8 is a STEAL at $5400 that performs 99.9% as good as the 9.9. It has already WON Dirt Mountain Bike Bike of the Year so Pinkbike isn't the only one giving this bike praise...

dirtmountainbike.com/reviews/trail-bike-year-trek-remedy-9-8-29#IWYYlHAxkwsY1mm5.97

Bike Magazine (bible of Bikes) also said it's one of the best ever...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjWMuSgRfaw
  • 9 0
 What a surprise. Most expensive top of the range bike is the best... Oh wait.
  • 14 5
 Ripely, Patrol, Capra, Tracer, The Following...
I'm just naming 12% of all bikes better than this thing.
  • 2 3
 Oooh, what's a Ripely?
  • 2 0
 Ripley my bad. @GeorgeHayduke
  • 2 0
 Banshee
  • 2 1
 Knolly Warden
  • 9 1
 Why are people so upset about pinkbike's choice? They're the ones who spent countless hours on probably every substantial mtn bike released this year
  • 7 1
 I think I am going to run out and get the Trek today, just need to sell most of my vital organs to afford it. I remember when a very high end bike was $4,000 now the choice is do I want a new bike or a nice used car.
  • 5 0
 I'm not normally one to complain about price, as I know there are still enough people out there who buy bikes at this price to keep the prices this high. But what is the point of a $9,000 "do it all" bike, when you could buy 2 $4,500 bikes that do their own jobs better then the remedy would? I love the concept of do it all bikes, but simply because I can only afford to have one nice bike. If I have $9k to sprend, it sure as hell isn't going to towards one bike.
  • 5 0
 Obviously a big buck bike will be tops with all the best and lightest crap - how about subdividing the category - 2-3 K, 3-4-K, 5K+. Most folks ride realistically priced bikes, even if they have the coin to pay more. When you got skills that kill, you don't need to shell out a shit load to impress anyone.
  • 5 0
 When I demo'd this bike (the 9.8 version) I was expecting not to like it but was blown away by the performance of the rear shock, boost spacing, incredible cornering and great climbing. The bike is a game changer in terms of what a bike can do as it is equally comfortable on all day epics, shuttle days and everything in between. For me it is the one bike that I've ridden that took away any argument in my mind that "I might try that if I only had my other bike". Great bike, go ride one.

The problem I see in PB's pick is that they should have chosen the 9.8 version to keep the price in line with the competition, not to mention Trek doesn't list this bike on their website for sale which makes this choice a bit pointless.
  • 1 0
 It's not listed because the 9.9 is a 2015 bike. For 2016, the 9.8 is the top model, so that's what is shown on the Trek website.

I had the same experience at a demo event: I didn't really think the carbon 29er would be a big deal, but I was really impressed. I went out and got one soon after.
  • 2 1
 BOTY should be an upcoming model that has a chance of being in stock. The car industry media gets this right. My 9.8 is on order, can't wait for late March to get here.
  • 3 0
 I don't understand why PB didn't just call this "Our Bike of the Past Year"
  • 11 3
 Love it! Congrats Trek! Now make me Slash 29!
  • 1 0
 Yeah, at least I would buy Leov EWS version with red color and beefy fork.
  • 6 0
 The question is, have you tested the cheaper versions?

If it is a bike design that only works at the top spec level then we need to know that.
  • 4 0
 You can get the 9.8 for 5400$. The only difference is X1/Xt groupset instead of XX1/XTR and the kashima coat on the shock. If you could ride with your eyes closed, you would never be able to tell the difference between the two.
  • 8 1
 I think I would rather ride an Enduro 29
  • 7 1
 $8,800 will indeed pay for an incredible trek... out into the backcountry on my current bike. And beer.
  • 6 0
 I can't afford this sport anymore Frown
  • 3 1
 I think this selection is actually a big journalistic step forward for PB. (Assuming the award wasn't bought & paid for...)

It doesn't have the shortest chain stays, or some exotic new suspension design, or material, or bullshit "standard"....it's just a bike that f'ing works, and works damn well.

This is exactly what a mountain bike award should be. Give it to the best bike available, that also happens to offer the similar (if not identical) performance at a lower price point for the masses.
  • 5 0
 How many people have ridden a large enough variety of bikes to actually be able to criticize pink bike's choice?
  • 2 0
 if anyone has ever ridden one of these (as i have) it's not too really shocking. I think that like anything it can be improved (maybe 160 29er?) but this is absolutely the ultimate ride. climbed like a beast, descended like a dream.
  • 6 0
 Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
  • 3 1
 I went to several demos last year including Yeti, Specialized, Trek, Ibis and Pivot. I rode at least two bikes from each company. This was the best bike that was really good at climbing and descending. Don't hate on it if you haven't ridden one.
  • 3 0
 Who gives a shit about sara & donald..& whats up with everyone thinking that a longer travel fork is better ..your all gay..you cant ride..& everyone on pinkbike is a fukn kook..just my 2 cents..
  • 3 0
 Pinkbike,i'm happy you observing the price of the bike,but definetly you not took this into account.I've never heard a Ferrari winning the best car of the year...
  • 6 0
 29.....
  • 5 0
 Ill take my Norco Sight at half the price thanks....
  • 1 0
 I'm not surprised really. I'm riding a '13 Remedy 7 with xt/slx grouppo, and im amazed at how well this bike handles. climbs like a goat and the descending is magnificent. I'd really like to try the 29er remedy because it seems that they've found that happy place where a 29er can take full advantage of its climbing ability, yet still tear down a gnarly descent, and thats something i thought was impossible for quite some time. but at 8700$ I think i'd buy the base model and upgrade parts as needed/wanted. just like the remedy 7 im riding now.
  • 1 0
 I caved and bought a aluminum Remedy 9 as a third owner. This bike may be the definition of one bike quiver. It's got some serious chops on the downs and will out climb most similar bikes. If I could afford multiple bikes for every discipline I would, but this bike is always fun to ride and in the end that's what really matters.
  • 1 0
 if you have 9000 to spend on a bike. I have no doubt, unless your really short, that a 26 lb 29er would be an awesome trail bike. BUT, when your down in he "cheap" seats at 3000 for a bike and your on a 32 lb 29er that is slow to accelerate, turn, and/or flexy in the wheels than a 29er just isn't a good idea...

ALSO, talk about not looking for what your main readers/audience is looking for in a bike of the year...? That's like telling me the Pizza of the year is tofu sprouts on buckwheat crisps... I don't care if that's really the best pizza, I don't care if that really tastes better than any other pizza pie. I WANT thick crust and extra cheese, so that's what I'm gonna buy!!! Smile
  • 1 0
 Well it must make you a sandwich after each ride, so it's no surprise it's bike of the year. At 9K it has to do that, right?

In the end, price shouldn't be a disqualifying factor, per se... it just feels too easy. The bike whose parts are all in the light+durable spectrum should probably be pretty mint. In the end it all comes down to what you consider "best". Something I (and what, 95% of this place?) will never ever get to use can't possibly be the best in my mind, but I can see why others don't think that's a factor.

In my opinion, it should have been YT. Awesome and totally affordable > Totally awesome and totally un-affordable.
  • 1 0
 Man I never realize how much MTBers can be bitches. Here's the main thing my group has. If you are on 2 wheels, a dirt eater, like beer, and aren't a douche. We don't give a crap what bike and you ride. Cause it's the one you choose, it's your 2016,15,14,13... Ect BIKE OF THE YEAR. Get off the bitching train and get on the trails, harder to complain shredding trails.
  • 1 0
 Now I gotta hunt me down one on the trail.....and out climb it then desend behind it with my squealing brakes till their ear hurts I make a pass on my.....nonboost, 1x10, 26er........ does enve make 26er wheels?....can I still buy 26er rubber? honestly I just like to ride alot!
  • 1 0
 Believe the hype folks, this bike is the real deal. I picked up a 2015 Remedy 9.8 29er which is almost identical to this bike for $3500 used. It's a bit heavier at 26.6lbs with X1/XT components... MSRP new was $5400 which is also a great deal. It's a bitchin bike after I upgraded the wheels to 30mm inner width LB carbon and threw on Maxxis 2.5" Minion front tires and 2.4" Ardent rears. The Penske designed rear RE-AKTIV shocks and boost 148 spacing and geometry helps this 29er corner as fast as any 650 bike I've ridden and climb as fast as most shorter 100mm travel 29er bikes but with the ability to descend and hang with any bike. It really is a do it all machine. There is no better do it all bike in existence in my opinion...
  • 1 0
 I wanted the Remedy 9.8 29er. Great bike for north east Washington and north Idaho. It was sold out. Purchased Slash 9.8. It is one bike Quiver. I'm going to use this and smile. If you like skidding corners, maybe stick keep justifying not spending your money. Had a Nomad 2007. My slash destroys it.
  • 7 3
 Everybody in this comments thread is a sniveling, know-it-all toddler.
  • 2 0
 Anyone actually own 3 separate bikes for XC, trail and All-mountain!? I mean each to their own, but seems very unlikely - curious suggestion.
  • 1 0
 N+1
  • 1 1
 Pink Bike Awards 2015

I'm paraphrasing here but: "Expensive stuff you probably can't afford, really good though, you should try it if you have a friend with money"

Comment section:
-"Meh..."
-"This is an assault on the very spirit of mountain biking..."
-"How could they!?"
-"My bike is better..."
-"Actually this thing is pretty good if you guys would just give it a shot"
-"That was a stupid post"
  • 3 0
 too bad they BREAK ALL THE TIME.. better get to know your warranty handler.
  • 1 1
 OMG THEY DIDNT POST MY BOUTIQUE 170MM 26" ENDURO SLED MACHINE, HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY THINK THAT THE TREK IS BETTER THAN MY 'insert boutique enduro bike' !! GET FARKED!!
*notice it says MTB bike of the year, not downhill bike, not enduro bike, not XC bike, but MTB bike and this bike probably crosses more MTB genres than your anchor of a EVIL ever will.......
  • 2 1
 The thing i liked least about mountain bike action was RC's opinions and the way he pandered to bike manufactures, and unfortuntly, it is apparent he brought that technique with him.
  • 1 1
 All you have to do is look at the Advertiser list on the right of the home page under Bikes Trek is the first listed.
I'm sure this is a great bike. Better be, but 90% Treks are shit bikes loaded up with with bontrager garbage.
I rode Trek bikes years ago, but would not even consider one today.
  • 5 1
 looks like a...
  • 5 0
 an old Kona Hei Hei?
  • 3 1
 A Ghost SL AMR?
  • 4 1
 A Vitus Escarpe 290?
  • 2 1
 an expensive bike?
  • 23 0
 an ostentatious wallet emptying statement to liven up this empty and futile journey to the grave we call life?
  • 8 1
 a crudely rendered representation of one's mother?
  • 7 2
 a job for Superman?
  • 4 3
 A cross country bike
  • 5 2
 Most expensive bike of the year
  • 5 1
 Nothing special
  • 23 22
 Are you serious pinkbike??? Of all the bikes out there you choose a pretty much bland xc bike which is also a 29er?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • 9 1
 I wouldn't call that an XC bike but I agree there are probably better choices out there.
  • 4 0
 You can't really hate on the bike when PB clearly states that once you sit on the bike you see why it's the winner. Most of us are pissed about them choosing this bike because we know 99% of us won't ever think to buy this bike, but in reality I'm sure there's a reason it's a winner.
  • 12 3
 You clearly have never ridden a remedy. Treks enduro team has been slaying on this bike for the past few seasons.
  • 9 1
 Opposed to all the other enduro teams on other sweet bikes not slaying it?
  • 4 1
 far far from a XC bike. this a pure do it all bike!
  • 2 0
 People seem to be completely fixated on price here which Is reasonable but the award is for the BEST mtb.

I can completely understand why this bike won having riden a Fuel 9. They are insanely priced but they just effortlessly do everything well.
I can see how the slightly bigger remedy with 29" wheels would be a monster
  • 1 2
 Whenever I think of my dream bike (which is often), many bikes come to my mind, Foxy, SB6-c, pole thingy, nukeproof mega 29 (should be bike of the year on looks alone), enduro 29, whatever... but at the back of my mind I always think to myself "yes but, I know trek makes the best bikes, why isint it on my list, I should just save and get a remedy, but its so boring, but its so good..." and so it goes on, Im not surprised it got bike of the year at all, but its just not the bike I drool and lust over.
  • 3 1
 If I buy a far cheaper aluminum version, do I still get to act snobby and self-important?
  • 3 0
 Handsome yet unremarkable.
  • 2 0
 With the price of it you wouldn't get the chance to ride it as you would be doing so much overtime to cover the cost
  • 1 1
 Man, I'm outta the loop...seems like a weird mix for finalists. How were the models listed chosen? Is there some sort of criteria we can view? BTW that Trek looks really nice...
  • 3 1
 Trek pays the Big promotional dollars since its one of the biggest bike retailers worldwide.
  • 1 0
 No doubt it's an awesome bike and is quite capable of some intense riding, however I really wanted to see the new Maiden get this award. That steed is noble!
  • 2 0
 So they hype 650b all year and pick a 29er for bike of the year......Makes sense.
  • 2 0
 MTB of the Year: my own bike. Cause it is there for me every time I need it. Love you sweetheart
  • 1 0
 Bikes looks awesome, however fd mout and stem could be improved for 9k price tag, imho for 9k the are another nice options for me personally
  • 2 0
 I don't understand how you can call a bike "the bike of the year" if you have only reviewed a handful of bikes this year.
  • 2 2
 $8,799.99 USD lol for a plastic bike insane just Google carbon broken frame there is millions ,But people will buy anything if a fatbike 50$ frame and 200$ wheels are selling at 3000$.
  • 2 0
 trek and endure bike, what a surprise, miss the days when pink bike was 100% dh n freeride
  • 1 1
 This is really ironic that this awesome bike you cannot buy in Europe in 2016 but only North America. You can buy only frame and full bikes only Remedy 27,5. So sad, seems European are too much conservative for 29"
  • 3 0
 Perfect choice. Excellent decision PB.
  • 2 1
 PB nailed it. There is no bike that does so many things so well as the Remedy 9.9. Can't wait to see what Trek does for an encore...
  • 2 0
 Trek is alright and all but honestly any carbon bike with similar features can compete easily.
  • 4 1
 A trek? That stands for a long walk
  • 1 0
 No hate on the bike or price...things aren't getting cheaper in this world. Just would've been nice if they had included SOME kind of pedals for that price!
  • 1 0
 Must be made of unobtainium. I thought pinkbike was a dh/fr primary website that also covered enduro. Apparently now it's a neutered xc enduro advertisment pandering website.
  • 1 0
 I LOVE THIS BIKE !!! I would pay lots of money to buy kind of EWS version with red colors and beefy fork. Unfortunately not available. TREK give me the bike !!!
  • 1 0
 Not sure how much I trust Pink Bike's judgment on this one. Sorry, there are quite a bit less expensive builds out there that are quite a bit better than this thing.
  • 4 2
 If it were available in that ferrari red I would already own one.
  • 2 0
 at that price, buy a second hand Ferrari....
  • 4 2
 Any thoughts on this bike paired with a 160mm pike compares to an E29?
  • 2 0
 Interesting question. Considering that the E29 was a former bike of the year, I'm interested as well. I think Trek should make an EWS version with a 160mm fork.
  • 2 0
 Neat
  • 2 0
 That's how the trek team was riding it for the EWS. Also a suggested mod when Dirt magazine named it bike of the year last year. You can bump the stock pike to 160mm replacing the airshaft, it retails for less than 30$
  • 1 0
 If you think it might struggle on the climbs, then get a travel adjust and its a hair lower than stock. What we need is a shootout between the Remedy 29, E29, Canefield Riot, Niner WFO, the new Nukeproof Mega 29, and whatever latest long travel 29 that Lenz has. I think the E29 would win on looks, but I would LOVE to see what people think who've had a chance to ride them back to back.
  • 1 0
 Get Foxocchi ODI dropper grips Hamncheez - Innovation of the year 2017

No really, travel adjustable forks are shiny tits and shaved balls. New Geo Enlightenians can talk whatever they want about steeper seat angles and new bikes having good climbing geo, but nothing beats dropping your cockpit by 1,5" or so for a 1000ft + climb, especially when surface is bad, gradient is steep or both at the same time. Especially with latest short chainstay trend. I reckon that if you made the adjuster on the bottom of the lowers you could lower the whole air chamber as it is, using a threaded lower piston screwing into plastic threaded body, kind of upside down U-turn style thing. In this way there's nothing to get broken and there's no additional friction, no additonial servicing to be made, so your fork performs at its full potential when fully extended, which cannot be said about Talas or Dual Position Air. 50g more of unsprung mass maybe. It's worth it.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns inverted fork, then its at the top and sprung!

All the fox reps say the talas 36 is every bit as good as the float. Plus if you just dropped the air chamber then the fork would bottom very hard or the tire would buzz the crown
  • 1 0
 How could the tyre hit the crown when the whole thing would move within exactly same borders? Yes, you'd bottom it a bit easier, but that's not the case on the climb isn't it? I don't care what their reps say, I talk to bike mechanics on reliability, and most people whine on them being worse than the float, even the last ones Big Grin The only person who can give you unbiased data on such things is the man tracking order of replacement units and service parts, to see how float compare to Talas Big Grin Also, I haven't been bottoming my Lyrik U turn too much while it was doing just that. Sure coil is more linear but it can't be that muc hof a difference since Fox and RS reps are saying that their latest toys have air springs that have never been closer to the coil rates.
  • 1 0
 waki, are you implying that a sales rep would not speak the uttermost truth when selling their product?

Also, the U-turn worked differently that just dropping the bottom of the spring; it changed the length of the spring so it still ramped up and had a smooth bottom out. Unless you drop the air chamber AND reduce the air volume it will bottom pretty hard.

I've actually been thinking about this for a while, and I think the best solution will eventually be an Oleo Strut variation for the damper. Think about the charger damper in my pike, but the inside of the pike surrounding the top of the damper is pressurized air. As the rubber expands to allow more oil, it pushes against the pressurized air, which acts as the spring, pushing back. Or think of older rear piggyback shocks where you could put air in the piggyback. When the shaft enters the body (hehe) it displaces the oil, which pushes an internal floating piston against compressed air, and the air acts as the spring.

With that method, the damper also acts as the spring, so only one leg needs internals. By using a twin chambered internally floating piston, or even your threaded idea, it would be trivial to make a travel adjust system (like the rear on Cannondales). The only tricky part is getting a good negative air chamber; either it would have to be filled from the bottom and the air travel up a channel inside the push rod, or do it the stupid way the old e160 Specialized forks did it (essentially a pre-pressurized, non adjustable negative chamber), or like the new fox 40s that have a titanium/steel negative spring.
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 Mhm... you are right. I haven't thought about it with U Turn... you win 5 pounds of canned prime Argentinian bacon! Quite frankly I'd be happy to run my 2016 Lyrik with U-Turn coil. I already chose Double Barrel Coil CS for my new bike. I have no time to masturbate my scarce riding time away setting up and servicing the air version. I'd also like to leave a pooped diaper at the desk of the RS engineer that made this stupid rivet in the wall of uppers cycling air between positive and negative chamber so instead of popping in a spacer, I have to fk with changing the whole piston, to change the travel from 160 to 180. I may be spoiled but I did not like the fact of buying that Lyrik... but well, for the price of 36 Float 180 you get Lyrik and Pike, then you have a few bucks left for a pack of bacon.
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 dat price difference
  • 1 2
 Why bike of the year? people cant buy it cuz it is too expensive,bike of the year should be something reliable and popular among people. I do not think that this bike is popular because of its price..
  • 2 0
 about 13000 in Canada just great
  • 2 1
 Jesus. I'd be quicker and have more fun on a YT Capra. And I could afford 3 of those for that price.
  • 3 2
 I will be boycotting the Pinkbike Awards this season due to lack of diversity.
  • 2 0
 I did spot an ugly external cable routing. For that price? C'mon!
  • 3 1
 Nice bike for sure, but I still love my Following.......Smile .
  • 3 0
 no surprise
  • 2 0
 For that price I'll take a Yamaha FZ-09.
  • 1 0
 Perhaps I'm just adding Fuel to the fire, but Trek can Remedy this bitching Session, with a Slash of the 9.9s price.
  • 2 0
 what a surprise!!!!!
  • 6 5
 Doesn't look like a Session...
  • 4 3
 Christ i just saw the price tag!
Is it made of gold???
  • 10 1
 I think it's Adamantium
  • 11 1
 Unobtainium, actually
  • 4 1
 actually carbon
  • 7 1
 And mermaid tears
  • 6 1
 Carbon impregnated with unicorn silk i believe
  • 2 3
 Pinkbike Awards. Winning products for the everyday mountain biker. Oh no wait they cost 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pounds each.
  • 5 8
 One last hurrah for 29ers before there killed off?
Iv got no beef with the result. It's mega bike money but rides like it's price tag so good times will be had for the lucky ones who can afford. It's not a value for money comp if it was it wouldn't even have been nominated.
  • 2 1
 Trek ahead of the game - once again
  • 1 1
 Love my 2015 Trek Remedy 9 27.5. I couldn't bring myself to paying almost twice the amount to save 4 pounds.
  • 3 2
 Silly money. Meaningless award. SFW.
  • 2 1
 TOOOOOOOOO MUCH MONEY FOR THESE BIKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 1
 brace yourself. The 26 for life crew are coming, and they look even more pissed off than normal.
  • 2 1
 just an opinion not a cold hard fact
  • 2 1
 Don't knock it till you try it. This bike actually does rip.
  • 2 1
 I have the remedy 8 29..30lb & 3000 bucks..it rips.
  • 1 0
 I stop reading after 29er....
  • 1 0
 Liteville 301 should win every year
  • 5 4
 Meh squared....
  • 3 3
 Definitely should be voting by the readers
  • 2 2
 Looks like a Remedy....oh....
  • 1 1
 Looks like a Session! Ba-da-bing!
  • 2 2
 Great bike, I'm sure. Just seems like a boring choice.
  • 1 0
 Chain looks a bit tight
  • 2 3
 Yeti with Switch Infinity Technology should be deserves to have this title, and No 29er
  • 1 0
 Drek
  • 1 3
 TREK discontinued production of this bike! Pinkbike is made from STEEL, ops CARBON, no $$$ at here!
  • 4 4
 it's that a 29er? eugh!
  • 2 2
 Now let's vote !
  • 1 1
 any YT!
  • 3 4
 neat
  • 3 5
 Advertiser of the year goes to...
  • 2 3
 B*****ds!!
  • 6 9
 incoming cheque from Trek to PB - it's in the mail.
  • 3 6
 yuuk, A trek 29 inch. Good thing these polls dont mean anything.#26forlife
  • 2 5
 Does it come in a 26" model
  • 3 6
 Slow bike year?
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