Pinkbike Poll: Who Had the Best Finals Run at Red Bull Rampage 2015?

Oct 16, 2015 at 13:51
by Pinkbike Staff  
Choosing the winner at an event like Red Bull Rampage is a tricky proposition, one that's much more complicated than simply looking at a stopwatch when a competitor crosses the finish line. Riders' scores are based on four categories: line choice, fluidity and style, air and amplitude, and tricks.

This year's competition was heated, with multiple athletes laying down runs that seemed destined to take the win, that is until the next rider dropped in. When the dust had cleared, there was a repeat winner atop the podium, but not everyone seemed happy with how the judging had played out.

Listed below are the riders that finished complete runs in the finals – now is the time to cast your vote for the best run of the day.

Who had the best finals run at Red Bull Rampage 2015?

Title image: Paris Gore


  • 534 5
 No option for Bizet...I know he DNF’d, but for pure balls out freeride I’d vote for him.
  • 182 1
 Bizet and Paul Bas where definitely on a winning run, I hope they heal up soon.
  • 18 50
flag pigit77 (Oct 16, 2015 at 14:18) (Below Threshold)
 Yes I thought the same, we won't see anyone attempt a double backflip for at least a few more years probably.
  • 58 3
 Nico Vink..
  • 21 17
 Bizet easily had one of he gnarliest runs but for me it had to be the claw. Seeing one of the oldish timers come in the top 10 on a new bike is always something. He was also one of final riders to brave the wind before the others got cancelled Just my thoughts....
  • 26 119
flag jamesbigjumps (Oct 16, 2015 at 16:36) (Below Threshold)
  • 21 71
flag Charlie-likes-bikes (Oct 16, 2015 at 16:47) (Below Threshold)
 @jamesbigjumps has a valid point. Polygon came out of nowhere and now their media exposure has never been higher. Its clear to everyone watching that semenuks run was better than Sorge's, the only difference was that Polygon have a history of collusion and ethical malpractice regarding sponsor attended events. A couple of riders from Polygon have even said they've been overscored in runs at high profile events. I'm not one of those guys that buys into conspiracy theories but there is definitely something suspicious going on regarding the judging at rampage.

Another interesting point to note is that the wind is alleged to have picked up mid way through second runs conveniently after sam has completed his second run but just in time to prevent the riders still on the hill from challenging Sorge's score. It must be the case that only semenuk has the profile and influence to supersede the corruption that is increasingly becoming imbedded in these events as he was allowed to complete a second run. But answer me this - did it even look windy up there? Can you even see one ripple in lacondeguy or aggasiz jerseys? Go through the footage again and ask yourself these questions.
  • 62 1
 Jesus man, calm down....
  • 5 0
 @GMAN1 its right..not to aggressive dudes Smile anyway for the wind I'm not so agree with you...ok maybe it wasn't so windy up to the hill but the problem was on the jumps where there was a lot of blue flags for check the wind...and wind was present down there believe me! you think that a mad man like Lacon could be stopped if the condition was good? I dont!
  • 54 2
 I was there and trust me, it was windy. You guys are the conspiracy theorists of mtb
  • 15 2
 I was there and trust ME, it goes to Bizet. Hands down. There are 2-3 small features after the RZR hit so he had plenty to judge.
  • 19 3
 worst judging ever!
  • 10 0
 That's the trouble with subjective judging, everybody has a different opinion. Frankly Reynolds' run was frigging incredible, so it's only right he got plaudits for it.
  • 4 0
 It's judged so it can't be taken seriously anyway, totally subjective. Somebody had to win and that was the only way to decide.
  • 13 1
 Bizet definitely. He's the winner for me.
  • 3 0
 Well these poll results are telling...
  • 4 3
 i would say semenuk, not only for his style and tricks, but also due to his agressive line !! #semenukgotrobbed
  • 4 0
 You can tell how people think Rampage should be judged based on their choice. Semenuk = more about style/tricks over raw tech line, Zink = more about raw tech line than style/tricks. They each had both in their runs but their entire lines leaned towards one or the other. They both got scored low (especially Zink). Out of any comps. in years' past, this would be the hardest judging gig because of how hard everyone was throwing down on different but gnarly lines.

If Vink stomps his line next year along with the tricks he will throw down lower, I have a feeling that one will take it. That was just absurdly huge. And Paul Bas, pretty sure he just set the world record for biggest MTB drop ever landed.
  • 4 0
 If there was a spirit of rampage award Vink was the only one who need apply.
  • 7 5
 Hard to judge, it looks like they may have factored the wind conditions for each rider on their run. The only thing that seemed a bit off was Aggy's score, maybe got rewarded a bit too much. It seemed more like this:

1. Kurt Sorge
2. Andreu Lacondeguy
3. Brandon Semanuk
4. Thomas Genon
Tie for 5. Cam Zink and Graham Agassiz
  • 3 1
 Just think how different it would have been if Nicholi and Tom Van Steeburgen would have make it to finals.
  • 16 0
  • 261 5
  • 249 22
  • 17 41
flag RedBurn (Oct 16, 2015 at 14:12) (Below Threshold)
  • 82 3
 Even zink can't believe the judges and its obvious he is upset when interviewed...ill have the people's choice award any day of the week! Congrats Brandon
  • 28 6
 what the f*ck ? its not his fault the judges voted him 1st, isn´t it ?
  • 6 39
flag RedBurn (Oct 16, 2015 at 14:21) (Below Threshold)
 off course it's his "fault", he paid them
  • 114 3
  • 38 4
 Correction: Semenuk got Norbed.
  • 33 2
 NO! His friends would say he got NORBIED
  • 12 28
flag geerumm (Oct 16, 2015 at 19:02) (Below Threshold)
 So many semenuk and aggy fanboys out there. I have respect for their riding, but not their attitudes and expectations.
  • 4 43
flag k2theg (Oct 16, 2015 at 20:26) (Below Threshold)
 Stupid. You would not say "robied", you would say, "robed", so therefore, you would say, "norbed". I don't give a f*ck what "his" friends would say.
  • 34 1
 Hahaha! You so don't get the joke. Wow.
  • 46 3
 Haha dude you wouldn't even say "robed", that would be like if someone threw a bath robe on you. You'd say "robbed".
  • 4 8
flag bigwillj (Oct 17, 2015 at 21:52) (Below Threshold)
 Semenuks run was really flowy and had awesome tricks but he did leave his comfort zone and this is rampage its about the riders limits of what they can do an pushing forward what's believed to be possible semenuk unfortunately didn't do this even though it was a great run with lots of skill,tricks and flow this is rampage not joyride
  • 200 5
 total embarrassment judges
  • 28 2
 It makes me sick... Can't imagine what those guys on the hill are feeling
  • 45 2
 Half these guys should just not show up to rampage next year. The judging has historically been sketch as fuck. I said it in another post and it got down voted into oblivion but riders need to decide how representative rampage actually is of the sport.
  • 93 2
 Great to watch. Meaningless results.
  • 60 8
 The only person who should be pissed is Zink. Definitely not enough credit give to the tech line off the top, that was so steep and narly, plus the huge 360 drop. Better the Semenuk.
  • 58 1
 Let the riders choose. Send the judges home
  • 34 0
 I'd love to see a poll done of riders and people who were actually there to see who they thought won.
  • 2 1
 ihatetomatoes got the point. While you can definetly tell the difficulty of brandons tricks and his insane unique style, you can't really judge how gnarly the lines are if you are only watching the live stream. Always keep that in mind when you complain about the judges again. That's not slopestyle where everybody rides the same track
  • 7 10
  • 10 2
 Semenuk is a victim of his own skills - he had so smooth flow that his runs seems to be too easy to win! Smile
Great show! - Big thanks to all involved in RBR . Last words to judges: Go away ! try to judge figure skating. Smile
  • 4 0
 The great thing about rampage is that you can ride like Remy, or like semenuk and still score high. But I think the judging layout needs to be changed so that it's more fair. If you huck it like zink, or you trick every feature, both riding styles are awesome and extremely difficult but they aren't even comparable. There needs to be a better judging system so that the score represents the difficulty of the riders' run. In addition, zink's run for example, had way higher consequences than brandons and I think all of that needs to be considered and evaluated when created a score. There will always be discrepancies but zink, semenuk, and remy are just a few examples of the vastly different riding styles at rampage and they all need to be receiving their respective scores
  • 2 0
 #riding406 the freeride should not be judged, is impossible. There are many styles.
  • 2 1
 They were awesome the voted for the rider finding there limits not sitting within them great to see rampage be not just another slope event
  • 2 0
 @dirt-wizard...Nailed it. That is how they were judging. The momentum built up for that drop he hit fast and deep, main reason for Sorge winning. Riders pushing their limits, or taking a big risk, equals more reward and more Rampage.
  • 164 3
 Semenuk got robbed, Zink got robbed. Aggy got way more points of what he deserved.
  • 34 0
 Totally agreed!! Judges fucked up!
  • 16 29
flag dirch (Oct 16, 2015 at 16:03) (Below Threshold)
 Semenuk was dialled and so smooth. But this is big mountain charging, not groomed slopestyle
  • 24 1
 Dirch. Semenuk flap dropped flipped in same zone way up on the mountain that we saw Rogatkin free fall from. Semenuk's run had everything. He was so stoked when he pulled it off
  • 22 1
 how was semenuk's line groomed? Aggy's line was a flow trail
  • 11 1
 Even Aggy knew it. Did you see his face when they announced his points? He was like "I am gonna take a lot of crap for this one!"
  • 9 0
 can't believe aggy/andreu smoothy line still earning that much points.. Zink's vertical line and 360 was gnarlier imo
  • 8 0
 Zinks run was a winner!
  • 1 0
 Zink has benefited from flow lines getting over scored in the past years. This year it turned around on him. Judges are never consistent one year to the next.
  • 1 1
 Sorge deserved the win, he was fast, steezy and I didn't see anyone else throwin down backflip no-handers.
  • 2 0
 Semenuk is too good to win without going out of his comfort zone. People expected more. Not saying his run wasn't worth the score, just that it wasn't a winner. Zink should have been higher up though. If Andreu wasn't so loose he would have scored lower as well.
  • 161 3
 Semenuk was just so smooth and confident looking, plus he like invented a new weird wheelie to oppo whip thing that's looks sick as FCK
  • 63 1
 I saw that - he had waaaaaaaaay better style than anyone else on the hill.
  • 28 2
 style-wise, although not making big tricks, see Bas V.S run again... ...that kid has style on a bike
  • 7 1
 @Lagr1980 - True dat. He was rocking it as well.
  • 3 1
 agree! maybe he could have also added a ninja drop/caveman(whatever what they call it)..
semenuk robbed this year.. rheeder was robbed last year
  • 124 3
 So many robberies ! It felt like watching oceans eleven...
  • 45 4
 WHERE IS BIZET ???? It's clearly the greatest run od this rampage... Forget the ridge line it was already known.
  • 19 0
 agree with @redburn! Bizet deserves to be on the list!
  • 9 1
 Definitelly Bizet has to have spot here! Smile That was the sickest run ... sending positive vibes to heal soon Wink
  • 3 1
 There was no robbery, they actually gave away points for free!
  • 85 9
  • 33 6
 I agree that Semenuk's run was better than Sorge's, but this is not a slopestyle competition, and you can't go comparing trick to trick.
  • 20 2
 didn't Semenuk win before?
  • 30 2
 The problem with anytime any of the slope guys coming here throwing a trick people automatically discount them because "it's not a slope run" and totally ignore the fact that they actually do flow, slay and free ride they just have the capacity to do more on top of that. Let's not downplay it like semenuk went in just tried to win an xgames bmx half pipe competition, he flowed the shit out of that with ridiculous style. The only thing missing was one big amplitude feature, but even still he did a pretty massive drop AND oppo 3'd it. Most of the commenters here wouldn't even hit the drop without tricking it.
  • 30 3
 Remember the time everyone used to freak out because the judges scored tricks way too high and huge narly stuff not high enough?

Funny how it's the opposite now
  • 17 8
  • 58 2
 Turn off Caps-lock - I can't hear you
  • 6 10
flag Selgovae (Oct 16, 2015 at 15:04) (Below Threshold)
 So what about the guys who can't or just aren't into the big trick combo's like the slopestylers? They may as well not show up if the highest scores go to tricks.
  • 12 14
 Pretty much. It's why Sorge won today, he tricked everything he could with style and had a narly line at the top and had that huge drop. You have to be able to do it all to win.
  • 22 2
 even the fest dudes are into big tricks. speaking directly opposite of your post, what if you took all the tricks away? what do you have? is it about straight airing and speed at that point? because thats called downhill racing.

my point is tricks *are* a part of freeriding, they ALL go together. And brandon did ALL of those things very very very well. too many people are discounting him almost because he is *too* good at his tricks, so what are you people implying? is anyone here going to argue that semenuk doesn't have flow/style/speed/amplitude? I would argue that he has the capacity for just as much amplitude as aggy/andreu/sorge but there's no chance to demonstrate it because it was such a bloody menstrual territorial cat fight over the huge drop spot of the terrain.
  • 9 25
flag lucinluka (Oct 16, 2015 at 15:20) (Below Threshold)
 semenuk deserved less than 94 considered amplitude and exposure of his line. now fuck off butthurts, this isn't a slope style event. Sorge deserved the win, I only think that judges missjudged Zink, he was supposed to be on the podium anyway
  • 16 2
 @anchoricex - exactly. Semenuk did everything he could with the line. How the hell is he ever expected to win, if lacondeguy and agassiz don't let anyone ride their line, when they know that it scores the highest. Semenuk rode far better than any other rider, but the judges simply decided to continue to reward line choice rather than tricks and style.

Bummer for Semenuk, although at least he can be encouraged by the fact that pretty much everyone other than the judges think he should have won.
  • 7 5
 I'm saying you have to be able to do it all these days. Rampage isn't just about tricks like it's not just about going huge or picking the steepest line.

Also Sorge won without doing the Aggy / Lancondeguy line so you can't go reasoning that for Seminuk not winning.
  • 11 1
 Exposure of his line? What? Not enough cameras on it? Not enough wind blowing him off his bike? Should he wear a bikini next time he rides?

And no shit it's not a slopestyle event. Did you see anyone on slope bikes, did you see any three pack jump line ups? Because I saw the c3 project out there dropping cliffs and BUILDING AND SHREDDING TRAILS.
  • 14 2
 @ldhbaker word. If Redbull wants to continue rewarding line choice they need to lay down some ground rules for shared trail useage. Because as it stands a more hot headed rider whos hellbent on keeping others off his trail has an advantage. And that's just stupid, this year was exhausting watching the rewards go to who could best claim territory for the queen of spain
  • 13 0
 I felt like sorge had the most complete line in rampage history. gnarly top drop then flips up high in the course then charges the ridge with so much style then does a huge flip combo. but semenuks was so amazing too its so close. but I really don't care. everyone killed it and its great for our sport its all on film forever for everyone to watch and get stoked about that's what rampage is all about. who wins is just a bonus
  • 5 19
flag geerumm (Oct 16, 2015 at 22:29) (Below Threshold)
 judges are people too. maybe semenuk was in their ear all week and they got sick of it. crying and complaining and expecting the red carpet treatment is not welcome in the desert. dudes like Sorge (and Bizet) get more respect b'cuz they remain chill and don't go stirring up shit on the mountain.
  • 8 2
 ^ Hands down the worst conspiracy theory so far. I recommend reading books.
  • 5 0
 @geerum - where do you get this crap from?
  • 1 0
 The riders should all be allowed to ride any line they want in the finals. The advantage would still go to the rider who built the line, practicing and qualifying on it... It would be way more exciting, competitive, and fair !
  • 1 0
 Polygon is very on all of this! great looking bike anyway
  • 70 1
 Antoine Bizet
  • 64 2
 Bizet did the Best run ever... even if he crashed.
  • 7 2
 Even if he finished his run, just looking at how judges scored the riders, he wouldn't have even made it to the top 5. The judges suck. The judges obviously were in favor of FEST riders. REDBULL RAMPAGE IS A JOKE.
  • 60 2
 My head says Semenuk, but my heart says Reynolds - thought both of Sams runs were f**king awesome for a newbie.
  • 5 0
 Completely agree. Sam's runs were both ridonkulously full of heart and inspiring. Not to be an ass - but what does he do normally? I saw him in the most recent Fox ad which was cool, but honestly haven't noticed him until this year . .
  • 6 0
 @cecald he mainly rides slopestyle events but has recently started riding some of the fest series stuff
  • 6 0
 Reynolds' runs were great, and he was a class act at the bottom being a true showman for the crowd!
  • 7 0
 @Whey-dh, thanks! Props to Sam for laughing off McCaul's cringeworthy "more tea guvnuh" comment too at the end of the interview. Definitely a class act.
  • 56 1
 Purely on line, Zink's was the best.
  • 1 7
flag alexisfire (Oct 18, 2015 at 0:04) (Below Threshold)
  • 44 3
 Results aside, Semenuk's run was beautiful. So much style on even the smallest features, it looked like a video segment.
  • 14 1
 Yup. He made all the other riders look like amateurs. So much style and flow.
  • 42 2
 Semenuk knows he was robbed but he's too classy to get bitchy about it. The fans gave him our vote, Im sure he digs that.
  • 5 0
 Yup - he's too classy to care.
  • 15 0
 Classy enough to go back up and stomp the same run again despite the poor scoring by judges.
  • 36 0
 I like the kurt,graham and lacondeguy, but in all honesty I feel they where to quick and almost a repeat of last year. I feel Brandon should have won due to the fact his run had everything big jumps, steezzz, flow, style, steepness and good tricks also zinks run was pushed back way to much!
  • 12 28
flag ihatetomatoes (Oct 16, 2015 at 15:13) (Below Threshold)
 Seminuks was too much like a slopestyle run. No real gnar or huge amplitude compared to the other guys. Sorge had it all in his run, tricks, gnar line and huge amplitude on the hip and that drop
  • 17 4
 ^ I'm getting real sick of this argument lol. Semenuks run was NOT like a slopestyle run, neither was Genons or Zinks. Just because these guys got a bigger trick bag doesn't mean they're not sending it, flowing and styling. Also, Aggy/Lacondeguy have been massive buttholes about one of the very few spots you can actually utilize big amplitude.
  • 11 12
 If your saying Seminuks was like Zinks then you need to rewatch the event. Zink was all steep and gnar off the top. Almost the opposite of Seminuks. Zink is the only guy who should feel robbed today. Top 3 for sure
  • 10 1
 Too much like a slopestyle run? You have to be kidding. He rode the same terrain, and arguably one of the more difficult lines, and on top of that threw in some incredibly difficult tricks. Now you're saying that he should actually be penalized for doing tricks that not many others can do?
  • 1 2
 I'm saying "semenuk tried to do slopestyle at rampage lelelelele" is f*cking mental
  • 9 13
flag ihatetomatoes (Oct 16, 2015 at 15:31) (Below Threshold)
 Penalized? He scored a 94. His run was amazing but I think Sorges was better because he went bigger and had more gnar plus had some sick tricks
  • 4 1
 I would say brandons run was the winning run.. however, in comparison to some of the lines his line was alot more groomed, which gave the impression of a slopstyle run. But you cannot take away his style, tricks, speed and flow. Thats why he should of won.
  • 38 1
 I wouldn't take my second run after watching that scoring either. Event canceled due to wind being taken out of everyones sails.
  • 21 1
 Yet Bearclaw nutted up and went for it anyways. Super stoked to watched all the runs, yeah scoring sucks and redbull TV sucks but when has it not sucked?

Congrats to all the riders who made it down safely and healing vibes to everyone nursing their wounds. You guys are absolute savages to build these lines just for one run! Cant wait for next year Big Grin
  • 8 0
 The feed was surprisingly clear for me. Lagged once but managed to watch the whole thing in HD unbroken. Might have more to do with local internet speeds.
  • 2 0

The only reason Darren took his second run is because he felt he had almost no choice since he did not receive a score his first run.
  • 33 0
 Bizet and paul Bas were WELL on their way to podium runs Brandon has sorta shot himself in the foot by being so talented. Only way he would have won is if he pulled a rabbit out of his ass doing a flat 3 over the canyon. And even then maybe the judges wouldnt be impressed because they expect such amazing talent from him.
  • 19 2
 I really do believe he could hit andreus/aggys lines just fine if not better. His talent and other competitions (joyride) have kind of given him a negative stigma for rampage. People think he's coming in to just do a shitload of tricks, and they ignore his flow, style, and control over his bike completely simply because he can do tricks ON top of all that and put it together in his run. I don't even know if robbed is the right word here because it's not like rampage judges have changed this f*ckery. That nose wheelie alley whip into one of his trail cuts was so filthy
  • 39 4
 go home jugdes, you´re all drunk
  • 35 1
 Zink was robbed
  • 30 1
 Zinks line had everything one could ask for at Rampage! 89.25 really?
  • 30 2
 I love how Bearclaw was like, screw you guys, I'm gonna ride in the wind and take a top ten spot.
  • 27 0
 Man, I wish Bizet could have stomped a second run.
  • 38 0
 or just landed that double flip and scored 101,3 points
  • 16 1
 Ohhhh but it's not a slope style competition /sarcasm

Bizets run was sick as f*ck. Wished he landed. But knowing these judges he'd get deducted for doing a more complicated trick
  • 25 0
 For the last 2 years Fairclough was so poorly judged,this year he finally somewhat got a score he deserved,that flip just blow my mind.
  • 2 0
 3 8th place in a row I believe
  • 48 24
 SORGE YOU DAMN ROBBER! Do the right thing and give your 1st place spot to the deserving winner, Semenuk
  • 12 6
 It's like Jofrey Lannister taking the iron throne in GoT season 1 ... such a moment when your re like Fuuuck for Eddard Stark
  • 1 0
 or to the guy that built the big ass drop you sent hahaha..kiddin'... the guy killed it..
  • 30 6
  • 24 1
  • 26 4
 you need a fest license to win rampage these days.
  • 13 0
 Maybe Red Bull is reeeeeally trying to get that Fest sponsorship next year. haha
  • 3 0
 No kidding. Hard for anyone else to get reasonable scoring, it seems like.
  • 19 0
 Zink and Semenuk definitely got robbed. On the plus side Sam Reynolds was fucking awesome! Such a shame he didn't manage to stick his second run.
  • 9 0
 Didn't look like a Rampage rookie to me! That superman was huge!
  • 23 3
 Semenuk was robbed
  • 3 0
 SMENUK / ANDREU got robbed ! 1.Semenuk 2.Andreu
  • 31 13
  • 11 28
flag torero (Oct 16, 2015 at 14:30) (Below Threshold)
 This is not slopestyle. SORGE WON.
  • 6 5
 There was nothing special about Sorge's run from a freeride perspective, either. Unless you are deducting points for tricks, Semenuk wins.
  • 13 13
 Nothing special? Watch it again, gnarly line off the top (it's what rampage is supposed to be all about), backflip over the ridge, HUGE amplitude on the hip, MASSIVE step down landing almost too far but holding on, plus the sick styled out no handed backflip.

His run had it all. The perfect combination on gnar and tricks. Seminuks was all slopestyle
  • 6 3
 @ihatetomatoes - you should learn how to spell Semenuk's name, at least.
  • 2 2
 Guys, don't urge this guy and argue. He probably is one of those jealous dudes, who says he could out ride Semenuk, but knows inside he just is angry that he blew up his wheel sending that curb drop. Rampage should become a "mountainbike expression session" all riders recieve a base payout, then show there interpretation. No actually judges ranking anything just fan votes for a bunch of categories that cover elements of freeride. I know it doesn't make for as dramatic of comp, but it might be a better format for rampage...
  • 19 4
 Lacondeguy was on it today! Much better than Sorge's run and only narrowly better than Semenuk's run (which was also better than Sorge's run)!
  • 6 0
 Andreu or Semenuk should have won it ! Semenuk stuck it like an athlete , while Andreu came with the vision feelin' it ! Either of them should have won ! they bot got robbed !
  • 20 5
 For me the correct results should have been 1.Brandon Semenuk 2.Cam Zink 3. Andreu Lacondeguy 4. Kurt Sorge 5. Graham Agassiz
  • 18 2
 The judges even stole my pants.
  • 17 1
 What were the judges watching?
  • 15 1
 Steep tech lines like zinks are not being rewarded nearly as much as they should be! Seems like you just have to create big bike park style jumps to win
  • 18 5
 Sorge Wins. Norbs got engaged. Semenuk got robbed. Bullshit (Not Norbs getting engaged) I want those 3 hours back.
  • 15 2
 Antoine bizet if he had finish his run, but semenuk, then zink, and aggy
  • 18 5
 Zink Semenuk Lacondeguy
  • 9 0
 Counterpoint: The judges are on site and supposedly hike the mountain to see all of the lines first hand. Maybe what we see via TV footage makes some lines look easier than they are more so than others.
  • 5 0
 This. Reynolds even said it on the interview. So did Cedric. TV doesn't give the best perspective of these features. The judges are right there and have scoped every inch of that place out. Plus - sorge was flawless. Andreu was not. If he had of been - they would have scored him higher. I was mosted stoked of fairclough - racer flip! - and bizet - would have been a podium for sure.
  • 10 2
 I think the voting was pretty fair. This is not a slopestyle event, its a freeride event. They gave credit to the guys that gave a gnarly run with big airs and momentum. I still think that Zink should have placed higher but he and Semenuk were going super slow in the middle of their runs.
  • 11 0
 How can you not put Bizet in there for just the sheer balls factor?
  • 5 0
 Bizet goes huge everywhere. He's just constantly overlooked because he's not the household name. It gets old
  • 10 1
 PB, please interview the judges so they can explain their scoring. It would be very interesting to known how they came up THAT result.
  • 12 2
  • 5 0
 Gutted for Bizet, that run was a winner, only front flip I remember seeing today and if he landed the double back on top of the rest of his run it should've taken it. Rogatkin could've shaken up the top rankings and it would've been good to see what he had for the finals. Missed what happened with Tom van Steenbergen in qualifying but I really wanted to see him land the front flip over the canyon this time.
  • 1 0
 I think rogatkin actually lacks on the big bike. When he went down yesterday i could see he just doesn't have the time on a big bike saddle these other guys do. I remember a couple years ago when he decided to go from bmx to mtb his filmmaker tried to do a free ride segment for him and they actually sped the footage up because he was pretty timid on the big bikes. Totally different beast and he's still got a lot of room to grow into them.
  • 2 0
 Fair comment, he's clearly not got the same time on a big bike as most of the rest at rampage although it would have been interesting to see his take on some of those lines if he got through and given some more time I still reckon he's one to watch. Either way, he deserves some credit for stepping outside his comfort zone of the fmb tour and finishing his qualifying run after slamming hard showed some grit
  • 2 0
 Absolutely, I really was bummed he didn't make it to finals. I'm so glad he's alright after that fall.
  • 1 0
 @aldo79 you couldn't be more right. I honestly wasn't that big of a Rogatkin fan, and was kind of wondering how he got in. That said, his sackness has gained some respect and cred by stepping out of his comfort zone, and then not taking the easy way out (or down).
  • 9 1
 I repeat again :who are the judges?!
  • 5 0
 Andreu had some sick tricks in his run, but it looked way to sketchy for the amount of points he got. His run was missing the flow that last years run had. If he got it down in style, he would have been a worthy winner.
  • 4 0
 Here's my two cents. Judges should give scores to all runs after each round. No scores until everyone has ridden, then compare things because honestly, every run is the coolest thing we've ever seen. I kept thinking that nothing could possibly be better until it was.
  • 4 0
 Rogatikin, Vink and Bizet are the winners in my book, the rest is relative as this event will never be judged properly due to the fact that everyones line is so different that it comes down to the difficulty of the line and not the riders ability so how could they ever judge this properly? It was clear from the get go that Aggy's line was going to judge higher based on that Andreu used that line to win last year so how is that fair for a guy riding a different line that may have more tricks but not more knar? and It really seemed like the powers that be wanted Aggy to win really bad, he was the most covered athlete on Pinkbike throughout the event. Another thing that sucks is that we wait all year for this event to only watch two runs that are never completed because of the weather. They really need to re-think the whole thing and COMPENSATE these guys for putting there life on the line. Lets not forget that mighty red bull will be selling the licensing of the broadcast to NBC for big dollars so how about you guys take better care of the riders with some fat purses.
  • 9 3
 Slopestyle riders in general always seem to get robbed a Rampage
  • 8 2
 Semenuk so smooth 1st place
  • 5 0
 Whoa!Whats the story with Berrecloth getting 84.75 points,but in standings it says 87??
  • 7 1
 Paul Bass was on a banger of a run. I was really pulling for him.
  • 6 0
 Bizet was on for best run
  • 4 2
 It isn't even close in my book. Semenuk for sure. Zink didn't score nearly what I felt like he deserved but I don't have him at the top either. Maybe 3 or 4. I really wish Vink, T-Mac and Bizet got to finish their runs. Bizet finishes his run he deserved the win. Either way... Sorge at first is insulting. I wouldn't have been upset if he was in 5th.
  • 2 0
 Maybe let the guys who didn't qualify for finals be the judges. I think these guys could shelve their friendships for the day and there has to be a good mix of big mtn and slope guys in the list... I don't think the judges got it right either, but it wasn't scandalous.
  • 2 0
 Judging should be done by the riders no one else. If I remember correct that's how the fest series works. There is too much money on the line to have a safety run win. Semenuk along with a lot of other riders risked their butt bucking huge tricks they should be rewarded.
  • 2 0
 Think rampage needs to be stopped as it has moved beyond commercial than the pure gnarly freeride event it was. That's what happens with any sport that grabs so much attention. Let the riders score the riders like fest series (off course we will see robberies in fest series as soon as it becomes more popular)
  • 2 0
 My vote goes to Sorge but I can't decide who deserved a win,Semenuk or Sorge.Sorge's line was way more steep and exposed but otherside semenuk's run was so smooth with incredible bike control and big tricks.I think Sorge had more pure freeride run
  • 1 0
 I agree completely. Tie with sorge and semenuk then lacondeguy.
  • 2 0
 Semenuk's run was way better than Aggy he totally deserved 3rd place AT LEAST! Wish Bizet, Vink and Paul Bas had finished their runs. Also think that Andreu would have won had he been able to do his second run like Cam McCaul had envisioned.
  • 2 0
 Judging system at rampage needs to be rethought. The judges should simply order the riders based on which they think had the best run, and reveal the standings after each run, giving riders a score means it's harder to move the standings around fairly. Imagine how much easier it would be for the judges to go "yeah that was better than lacondeguy but not as good as sorge so put him second" instead of trying to figure out arbitrary numbers to represent a riders run?
  • 2 0
 They'd still have to end up with a scoring system though. I'll watch a run and think 'no way was that as good as that guy that went half an hour ago" but then go back to the replay and realise that actually all in all maybe that was better.

Just going on an overall feeling of which is better is even more subjective and open to inconsistency. Maybe it would work if the judges had a couple of hours to go through replays after the comp but I don't think doing a real time ranking this way would work
  • 1 0
 Yeah actually there should be final results revealed after the event, then the judges can properly review all of the replays. Provisional results could still be given after each run to give riders an idea of how much they need to improve?
  • 9 4
 1) Semenuk 2) Lacondeguy 3) Zink
  • 7 1
  • 4 1
 Semenuk or Lacondeguy deserved a win over Sorge. And it's unfair Lacondeguy didn't even get a second run in to take him down.
  • 2 7
flag Charlie-likes-bikes (Oct 16, 2015 at 16:57) (Below Threshold)

Also did anyone else notice that it was apparently too windy up there to complete a second run for agassiz and lacondeguy the only competition for sorge. But did anyone even see a flag move up on that top section? Everytime the wind was gusting it was a flag away from the riding area. I went back and checked the footage and the flag blowing in the wind is an extremely well edited loop to give the impression that the course has become unrideable. So sketchy
  • 1 0
 Towards the end I just started fast forwarding past the scoring parts and watching the riding. Just to be able to ride this stuff is insane, let alone with that much style out of all the riders. Props to everyone who participated!
  • 2 1
 If you read through here, it's easy to see why no one agrees. So how could the judging spot on in everyone's opinion? I think it's been pretty spot on however. Sorge got robbed in 08 and the sport has been making up for it every since. Sorge should be the first three time winner. Rampage is about the biggest drops and jumps, period. Everything else is second.
  • 1 0
 same shit every year, zink and semenuk should have scored way better. it must suck going in the first half of riders as there runs lay down a base score, and as soon as someone throws a trick the jump in the scores is then massive.
  • 1 0
 Red Bull needs a new place for the event.. so the riders can get creative with their lines and combos again..(not saing they are not.. but now that the obvious lines are all taken.. there is only place, if you want to win, for stuff like nico vinks line.. and i don`t want anyone to die out there..)
the judgement is for riders as for the judges difficult due to the difficulties in line/jump prevention among the riders.
  • 3 1
 Sorge deserves it and his line is what rampage is about straight gnare .......and only person got robbed for not being pre qualifying in the finals is doerfling ........Bizet winning run if didn't fall ???
  • 1 0
 Should be judged by the competitors. I didn't think the judges did the best of jobs either way but even if they had, it's still got to be a bloody hard job to maintain fairness/consistency when you have to make a call within 5 mins without being able to check footage properly.

Having said that, being a judge would suck. You do a great job and people are just indifferent to it. Make a slight mistake and you're basically fcked.
  • 2 0
 It'll never work though. Too much of a popularity contest. Although somehow the judging does need to become more predictable and consistent
  • 1 0
 Yeah you're probably right. They have done it with reasonable success in other sports but there does seem to be a certain cliqueyness in the rampage line up
  • 1 0
 Maybe they should breakdown the scores? Make them clear and transparent? 25% style, 25% gnar factor, 25% Amplitude, 25% time. However you break it down, they must already do it, why not show it. It makes it more obvious and understandable when you break it down. I think it can help reduce debates to some extent and maybe improve accuracy.
  • 1 0
 Everyone. I don't know if this was appropriate to do or timely enough, but I have created a campaign to support Paul and the financial hardships this injury will place on himself and his family:

Please support a fellow rider and his journey back to health and to the bike. If you can share this, or have any suggestions how to make it more effective, please get in contact with me. Paul has been a source of inspiration for almost a decade and we can step up and help him through this.

  • 4 0
 never wanna be a judge but they did it weird aii
  • 7 2
 Semenuk, no question.
  • 4 0
 Bizet was the man!!!!! Good recovery to him!!
  • 4 0
 So gutted for Bizet, if he had stomped the double backy he would have won!
  • 3 0
 Vink for gnar, Bizet for the win if he'd have finished, semenuk for the win out of the finishers!
  • 1 1
 This is not BMX. Sorge and Zink won.
  • 3 1
 It kind of sux, you wait whole year for the most amazing event, and then it gets #@$% on by totally insane judging, Semenuk got robbed...
  • 5 1
 Semenuk - 1st Lacondeguy- 2nd Zink - 3rd It's so simple
  • 2 2
 K. So next year judging is 100% "peoples choice." Obvi Brandon should have won or come second to Zink right? There are a lot of sponsorship dollars on the line here and these results point to some kind of bias in judging. If not please prove these results...
  • 2 0
 Nicholi's run was the best. After falling off a cliff and completing the run, not sure any one should have taken first other then him.
  • 2 0
 Very difficult event to score, or maybe just the wrong people. Personally I thought it was a toss up between Zink/Seminuk, but top ten where all stomping it.
  • 2 1
 Genon and Sorge had almost the same exact run but Genon did a Tuck No Hander, Suicide, Back Flip Tuck, and One Footed Table vs Sorges Back Flip, Suicide, and Back Flip Tuck but Sorge wins?
  • 1 1
 Sorge va más grande que nadie. Por eso ganó. Esto no es BMX.
  • 5 1
  • 3 0
 judges ruin the rampage! can´t believe it..
  • 3 0
 The people have spoken. #Brandongotrobbed
  • 3 0
 All that other shit was made worthwhile by Sam's steezy Superman.
  • 3 0
  • 4 1
 Lets see George Brannigan on the invites for 2016!!!
  • 2 0
 BIZET. Hands down. I know he didn't stick his run but what he pulled was pure rad...
  • 2 0
 why did claw's score get bumped from an 84.something up to an 87? no way a top ten run.
  • 2 0
 Bizet by a mile...he had me up out of my chair cheering him on! I know he didn't finish, but he had the best run
  • 1 0
 As much as I love Brendog and I totally feel like he deserved to be higher up the score board, Semenuk's run was just fantastic and he should have been a two time champ.
  • 3 0
 Who the hell is voting for mcgarry?
  • 1 0
 I love semenuk, but really that big of a gap in the votes? Sounds like a bunch of fanboys are sad their daddy lost. It was a killer run though.
  • 1 1
 Seems like many of you guys are judging this as if it were a slopestyle competition. This is rampage not joyride. The gnarliest real free ride run was Zink and I don't think anyone could deny that...
  • 1 0
 I really thought that's it for Semenuk, he was SO smooth and hit so rad jumps. Stoked for Sorge, but sorry Judges, watch the replays and think about it.
  • 2 0
 riders are judged on line choice rather than line build and as such all lines should be up for grabs.
  • 1 0
 Don't know about any of you but I think rampage is gnarly af but the event sucked this year. Wish rampage was like a fest series.
  • 1 0
 So many for semunuk, i thought sorge deserved to win. Watch his run again...he is fast the whole time, stylish and that drop was absolutely huge..... Semunuk fanboys
  • 15 14
 Is McGarry not even trying anymore? Why did he even bother coming halfway across the world to half ass his runs?
  • 20 1
  • 18 0
 He was free and feels like doing some freeride.
  • 10 0
 I believe he's had some injuries this year, spent time off the bike..
  • 7 2
 Yeh, didn't he get a big injury in China playing silly buggers on those steps for Red Bull ???
  • 2 11
flag ihatetomatoes (Oct 16, 2015 at 14:34) (Below Threshold)
 Mcgarry is as good as flipping the canyon is. Nothing else
  • 9 0
 He successfully rode down his line twice -- AT RAMPAGE! How is that not trying?
  • 2 1
 @burnbern - because compared to prior years, he looked like he wasn't trying. He rode an easy line and didn't do any tricks and his score reflected that.
  • 2 4
 Because he ain't that good. Or at least not on the same level as the other competitors. Never has been never will be. One trick pony. Has he ever top tenned in anything other than the year he flipped the canyon? Yt snapped him up to sell bikes in the Southern Hemisphere. And he has the ugliest style going.
  • 2 0
 There are riders I like less than others, for sure, but I hope I never take to just slagging off riders. Now that's ugly.
  • 3 4
 R-DOG was the only one actually got ROBBED. The first one out there always gets ridiculously underscored. Semenuk had the chance and couldn't pull out all his slopestyle combos.
  • 1 2
 All I see is "the Judges are SICK!" And some riders got robbed! Why not do an open event? PB users vs SICK JuDGES down that mountain. See who gets sick at the end of the day. That'd be sick. Congrats Sorge.
  • 4 1
  • 3 1
 Everybody be cool, this is a robbery
  • 3 0
 Claudio's run?! Big Grin
  • 2 0
 I wonder if the judges will see this poll?
  • 1 0
 asking the real questions. although it sounds like it was a judges tent full of a bunch of bros being bros about bro shit. i doubt they'd care.
  • 3 1
 Polls don't lie Semenuk got robbed! Lol.
  • 4 2
 1. Sorge 2. Lacondeguy 3. Aggy 4. Semenuk 5. Zink
  • 1 1
 an btw people its a RAMPAGE!!!!!!!!! NOT CRANKWORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! judging is not based off tricks. Yes brandon should have won if it was based off of tricks.
  • 2 0
 No idea how Brandon didn't win with that run.. . . it had everything.
  • 2 0
 I just came here for the arm chair judges comments
  • 2 0
 Doerfling got robbed just not letting him in.
  • 2 0
 1 Lacondeguy, 2 Zink, 3 Sorge, 4 Aggy, 5 Genon
  • 1 0
 Brandon deserves a lot of fans, but he came in fourth. Big tricks count for a lot of the score but not all.
  • 1 0
 Semenuk is the style--wanted to see a cork 7 from him though. I couldn't believe Zink wasn't ranked higher.
  • 2 0
 Nico Vink Frown
  • 4 4
 BUT: andreu would have won, shame he didnt get the second run in, For sure he would have
  • 6 5
 brandons run was sick. maybe top three... not #1, Sorge killed it! Party!
  • 2 1
 who won the polaris??
  • 3 1
 Semenuk won the people's choice award
  • 1 0
 what happen to Tom van steenburgen?hurt?
  • 1 0
 he had temporary paralysis after landing on his back in practice. think hes good now but hes off the bike for a while.
  • 1 1
 Judging has been an issue every year. I dont think they have ever gotten it right. Let the public decide!!
  • 3 1
  • 1 0
 Bizet, it's poesy in the air
  • 2 0
 BIZET!!! FTW!!!
  • 1 0
 bizet and sam rynolds the best
  • 1 0
 1 andreu lacondeguy 2 semenuk 3 sorgie 4 aggy 5 zink
  • 1 0
 Antoine Bizet! Best run, no contest!
  • 1 0
 Bizet so much bad luck....It´s enough to make you cry
  • 1 0
 Bando de chupa rola do semenuk!!!
  • 4 3
 Popularity contest
  • 2 1
 Bizet Semenuk Zink
  • 1 0
 I loved Bizet's run too, but he crashed. How could he have won? He might of if he landed the double.
  • 1 0
 What happened to tom VS
  • 1 0
 landed on his back in practice, was paralyized temporarily. hes good now but off the bike
  • 1 0
 Bizet, no doubt
  • 6 8
 A bunch of chimpanzees would have been a better judge. #giveittosemenuknowkurt
  • 4 5
 Andreu should of scored higher than sorge
  • 1 0
 But Tommy G should have scored better than Andreu.
  • 2 2
  • 1 2
 The results from this survey don't lie.
  • 8 11
 Semenuk was way sicker if you watch it compared to sorge.
  • 3 3
 I was on the edge of my seat watching semenuks run it was amaizing
  • 4 0
 Zink too....massive risk in his whole line.
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