Video: Could It Be Any Steeper?

Oct 22, 2015 at 16:26
by Pinkbike Staff  



165 Comments

  • + 169
 in coastal BC most of our trails are like this.. we think they are fun.. but they aren't really.
  • + 16
 after that everything would be tame
  • + 13
 This inspires me find some hella steep shit and pray and hope when I ride down
  • + 3
 you need a lodger ?
  • + 7
 I didn't know this site of Rampage.
  • + 5
 I only need 2 words to answer the question.... Yep Llangollen
  • - 1
 I rode that in the pouring down rain...jk.
  • + 7
 type 3 fun. scary as fuck, fun when it's done.
  • + 10
 Lol. I know that feeling.
"I hate this, I hate this, I'm scared, why did I do this? Why can't I stop. I am not enjoying myself. AAAAAAAAAAAaaargh"
Gets to the bottom.
"Shall we do that again? I really enjoyed that"
Doesn't wait for an answer and starts pushing back up...
  • + 2
 .wrong thread Frown
  • + 115
 Digging that dudes kit, gonna start tucking my flannel into my faded jeans when I ride.
  • + 20
 That dude is Alex Pro!
  • + 20
 Commencal needs an Alex Pro edit! Let the guy have another chance.
  • + 7
 No kidding Alex is such an amazing rider.
  • + 14
 best hockey fan ever.
  • + 6
 1) kudos to the guy who managed to keep his flannel tucked in (apparently alex?) that's classy. 2) EVEN BIGGER to the dude who seems to have ridden this hell ON A MOTHERFROCKIN Y FRAME!!!???? am I wrong?! is that the red frame?! a f*ckin Y frame killin this shit?!?!?
  • + 2
 kind of looks like an m16 maybe?
  • + 8
 thats a santa cruz driver 8
  • + 2
 Walker Evans
  • + 6
 Notice is riding with is wallet in is back pocket at 2:45 lol
  • + 41
 That's Canadian business casual. No jean jacket, so not formal.
  • + 1
 Dressed for taking an inevitable fall. So sketch. Love this. I can't do huge drops, but I love going down shit that's steep. Stupid I always tell myself, but still try.
  • + 89
 Does IMBA know about this?
  • + 55
 It's over a 2% negative grade.. . Nope.
  • + 4
 The IMBA would be pissed
  • + 6
 Riders are getting cease and desist orders as we speak.
  • + 7
 I see no grade reversals. You make IMBA jesus cry.
  • + 3
 the turn radii were up to imba code though
  • + 77
 In the UK we would race that in the rain at the BDS Llangollen. That includes Juveniles and the women.
  • + 27
 British humor... some people just don`t get it !
  • - 98
flag lyophilization (Oct 22, 2015 at 17:35) (Below Threshold)
 but you still lost the revolutionary war... USA USA!!
  • + 16
 When you google BDS Llangollen all that comes up is people eating sh*t in muddy steeps. I guess, you guys are not riding down those... nutty!
  • + 5
 Those trails in Pemberton are waaaaay steeper than what you're talking about. They're generally less greasy but much steeper and tons of sharp rocks.
  • + 4
 Pemberton is fun. Not been over the water in a couple of years now Frown
Different dirt, roots and conditions in different places. Makes different things challenging.Gotta love MTB.
  • + 9
 Some of the steeps in Scotland are just mental, especially in the Tweed valley!
  • + 14
 I don't think any of you fully grasp what you just watched.
  • + 8
 Errrr, I think we do! Do you honestly think that this video has the only steep trails in the world?
  • - 10
flag nickel (Oct 23, 2015 at 5:42) (Below Threshold)
 See, you prove my point. It's not even a trail. It's 3 dudes freeriding through a forest. Meh.
  • + 9
 It proves nothing but ok, are you naïve enough to think that ground like this doesn't lie elsewhere in the world?
  • + 8
 I live in Tweed Valley, Scotland. We have a couple of trail builders that go out of their way to build stuff that they can't ride just to see if they can ride it, then once its mastered .... we ride it in the rain :-)
  • + 3
 in fact we have a trails called "Too Hard for EWS" on Strava ..... guess who turned it down!
  • + 5
 How can we compare what we just watched to BDS Llangollen, let alone general riding in Pemby vs UK? I'm quite sure none of us have ridden both Strapping Young Lad AND the BDS Llangollen DH course and watching five minute video clips online does not allow a proper comparison.
  • + 6
 We're talking about something that is clearly challenging Kenny Smith. I think he might be just a little bit better than your average rider. The camera does not do the steepness of this justice.
  • + 2
 I don't think anyone is questioning the guys ability! I know exactly how hard it is to ride trails/land like this, A steep bit of land is always going to be a challenge no matter where it is in the world!
  • - 3
 You sir, are full of yourself if you think you know what it's like to ride stuff Kenny, Alex and Walker have to dab on. Carry on thinking you know what's up.
  • + 4
 "You Sir" are a bit of an idiot!.... Do you really think that those 3 guys are the only guys on this entire planet that can ride land like that? Really, are you that naïve? At what point did I say that I could ride that kind of land as good or better than them? I think you'll find I haven't. This thread is called "Could it be any steeper" My response to that is "yes it probably could get slightly steeper" Would I like to try steeper? NO!! Do I have land like this in my area? Yes. Do I ride it? Yes. Do I ride it as good as these guys NO! but I never ever said I did. You, for whatever reason just assumed I did...... I think it's time to take a step back off the high horse pal Wink
  • + 3
 Everyone has a local steep track. Think we can move on from that. Not ridden llangollen but I know people who have no issues with a soaking wet llangollen but won't touch the likes of trespasser, original crazy train.
  • + 4
 From the top of my head i can think of at least 5 areas locally which have near vertical rocky cliffs covered with loam and peat. Most of which are too steep to stand up on.
Every one of those has an excessively difficult trail down the side of it which some mad man built. Yes the trail in the video looks difficult and Yes the rider is very talented and still clearly struggling, that doesn't mean that the same terrain doesn't exist elsewhere in the world and that local riders/builders have mastered it.
  • + 2
 I was more referring to "we would race that in the rain at the BDS Llangollen. That includes Juveniles and the women." Because that is absolute bullshit. I find it very hard to believe that anyone let alone juveniles would be going at race speeds on stuff that Kenny Smith is struggling on.
  • + 2
 I nearly died laughing watching www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZWak8bHu0

come on son, it's a bike race!
  • + 0
 That video was funny. That looked like the more rugged bits of Canadian open. I stand by my opinion. Trespasser is steeper than anything I could drum up under "bds Llangollen". I'm sure there's steeper than SYL, but I'll be damned if I've seen it raced and anyone claiming such things is off their head..
  • + 3
 I'll just say this
Scotland
Innerleithen
Prospacker trail
STEEP
near death experience :-)
  • + 3
 I've not ridden Strapping Young Lad but I have done a few laps on another Pemby trail close by called Gravatron. I've also ridden Llangollen (whilst it was damp...). There are moves on Llangollen that are tougher than anything I encountered on Pemby's steep-fall line trails. That said, the tough stuff in Llangollen is all over in 2-3mins. The technical, steep riding in Pemby just keeps on going and going and going... It really tests your endurance, both physical and mental. I love Llangollen but Pemby wins for me, longer, more sustained, more exposure and ultimately more fun.
  • + 59
 Sorry but if Kenny struggles, the. Struggle is REAL...
  • + 40
 that might be the most refreshing mtb video i have seen in a while.
  • + 38
 Faaaalling oooon my shiiiiins. These wouuuunds they wiiiillll not heaaallll!
  • + 7
 This is where the old school plastic shin/knee, elbow arm pads would be wonderous. What a nutty trail.
  • + 2
 Links Park! Hell yes dude!!!!!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡!¡!!¡¡¡!¡
  • + 34
 Wow Hank Williams III in a mtb video. Not expecting that!
  • + 12
 not expecting it either, but it was a pleasant surprise..... hank 3 represent
  • + 7
 I was instantly pumped when I heard Hank 3. His music is honest and better than any "country" you will hear on radio or on CMT. Its actual country music.
  • + 1
 ug. The best compliment I can give this vid is that I kept watching it even though there was country 'music' infecting the beastly footage.
  • + 2
 If you know what I'm thinking you'll know pop country really sucks!! Love Hank III and those steep techy trails look wicked.
  • + 17
 That was hilarious. That's exactly how we rode our full rigid rim braked bikes in the eighties on trails half as steep. People complain that trails are being dumbed down when really their bikes are too fucking smart.
  • + 3
 True that. Over here we have no big hills, the highest point near here is probably 30m/100ft high, and the trails we have are super easy. Because of that I ride a very minimalistic bike with no suspension, v-brakes and often even single speed. That way the trail becomes more interesting again. Can't understand how so many people ride full suspension bikes over here, or even 160mm enduro bikes, while you could easily and comfortably ride the trails on a road bike if you wanted to.
  • + 19
 How to bed in new brakes:

A) Find this hill
B) Ride this hill
C) Look smug, you survived
  • + 34
 D) Realize you're looking smug in heaven because your new pads glazed over 10 feet down the hill and you fell down the rest of it aka a cliff.
  • + 9
 Or just like they do in lone survivor and just jump down it.
  • + 2
 guy on the red santa cruz was prob running elixors
  • + 19
 Video makes everything look flat. You know, except this.
  • + 16
 Thats why they stitch that extra piece of fabric at your taint. Some of the best mountain biking is just exploring with your buds.
  • + 13
 HOW TO: wipe your ass with your rear tire.

BIKE SET UP: Your handlebars are way to f*cking low
  • + 13
 it's hilarious how flat everything looks on camera
  • + 8
 Sick riding. Video does not do the steepness of the trail justice whatsoever. Pemberton is nuts. I consider myself a pretty confident rider, but just going down a BLUE run in Pemberton, I ended up walking half the trail.
  • + 8
 This is awesome. Has me thinking there should totally be downhill trials sections; trials rules, downhill bikes, and gnarly steep rock drops. Could be fun.
  • + 15
 Its almost like they had an event like that last weekend...
  • + 2
 Thanks for the Vertriders vid that was awesome. Rampage is the coolest but it is a decidedly freeride event, the rules in trials biking have a lot to do about technical line choice, cleaning sections, and Dabs, but not the kind most mountain bikers are accustomed too.
  • + 1
 I'd definitely like to see a DH trials competition. Being a former trials rider I attack every technical DH with the same mindset, no dabs and clearing every section. Trackstanding or nose turning tends to freakout my friends riding behind me, haha.
  • + 9
 Meanwhile I live in the flattest town in all of Maine.
  • + 3
 All I can say that our trails have over this one...is if we had a trail that steep, at least the rhododendrens would catch you in a bail rather than just "Chris Farley in Black Sheepin'" all the way down the trail.

That sucker is steep...and there is just nothing to grab onto or stop you if you bail. : www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NxAdXi1r5o
  • + 4
 We need more free ride events. Utah isn't the only place with gnarly terrain. That was brave riding, I've rode trails/hills like that. It's not fun until your alive at the bottom, buts it's good training. Great video
  • + 2
 That is the time I would take a full suspension Plus or Fat tire bike. You're not using that much travel with brake skidding a lot of stuff, and the 3-4 inch tire contact patches really pay dividends for controlling the slide.
  • + 2
 Luv these steep trails. You watch a rider commit and make a section. You stand up top hands on the bars and think shit shit shit!
Then you let go of some brake creep down the slope when speed picks up you think holy f*ck im doing this ! If you get to the bottom of the steep you feel a huge rush! Nothing else like it!
That looked fun in a shit your pants kind of way.
Tripple black diamond Smile
  • + 5
 Rednecks being redneckers...
  • + 1
 This should encourage everyone to go do some honest freeriding. I've been dabbling when I happen upon such terrain, and it is a good time! There are some dudes out in Logan, UT doing rad stuff like this, actually. I think everyone would be surprised how many riders are quietly getting after it on gnarly, pick-your-line-and-go, old-school inspired terrain.
  • + 6
 Dré dans l'pentu !
  • + 4
 "No" avid brakes were harmed in the making of this video
  • + 4
 Cause they used shimano?
  • + 4
 I think so! No noise coming out from the brakes…
  • + 1
 I live in pemberton and have ridden the trails in the tweed valley. They are steep in the tweed valley. Such good riding. Short but really good. Innerleighthen was the name
  • + 4
 Lines.....we don't need no stinking lines
  • + 4
 This video gets me pumped to ride! "If it's too steep, you're too old!"
  • + 2
 This reminds me of the first time on the Nordkette singletrack...it was also raining, and my ride is a modest Stumpy Big Grin
  • + 2
 Gnarly ass trail but I'm not feeling the music at all. With a name like that I was expecting some brutal Canadian metal.
  • + 1
 S! Y! L! Thought the same thing, bro.
  • + 1
 Haha! "F*ck.. youuu!!"
I was also waiting for some blastbeats and people riding down super steep hills. But I gotta say Hank III in addition to the riding also did the job. Last time I went to see Hank, the end of the show was pretty much equal the loudness of SYL.
  • + 2
 1:10
I'm braking as hard as I can and I seem to be getting faster.
Love that feeling!
  • + 1
 Great video! I love me some Hank III (well I love Bocephus, and Hank Williams too), and you throw in some mountain biking its a home run!!
  • + 3
 BDS Llangollen is just as steep and thats a race course. UK forever Smile
  • - 2
 You have no idea what you're talking about.
  • + 2
 Haha... whats your criteria for 'knowing what you're talking about'? Having ridden in both Canada and UK, UK wins - we just dont have any ski lifts Frown
  • + 1
 my thoughts:

this looks brutal fun! (fun brutal - plain fun...)
ride don´t slide (have heard that somewhere)
maybe they should consult Harald Philipp...

just nice
  • + 2
 Sick video. Those steeps are how mountain biking was supposed to be back in the day!
  • + 3
 Makes PHD look like a "flow trail"
  • + 2
 The epitome of "sustainable trail building"?
  • + 70
 It's pretty sustainable because about 3 people in the world can ever actually ride it.
  • + 9
 Plus it will probably be logged out in 1-10 years anyways.
  • + 4
 Internet trail experts huh lol (OP)
  • + 1
 We have a saying for trails like this with my friends..."Keep the back diggin' ditches and the front between your britches"
  • + 1
 That looks fun... Anyone who says it's lame or too steep must only get read on flow trails
  • + 1
 was that dude on a shockwave? I could barley ride one of those down an imba trail. Unridable
  • + 1
 BDS RD 4 Llangollen Carnage In The woods ''YOUTUBE''to si-paton ,,,,, great fans out there
  • + 2
 mountain biking at it's finest! fully committed or fall! I love it!
  • + 1
 Someday someone will ride upside down
  • + 1
 I was kinda hoping for some Strapping Young Lad tunes!!! but fun video.
  • + 1
 I Love this Hill Billy music
  • + 1
 Dear Shimano, thankyou for such a sick ad for your brakes.
  • + 1
 there's some avid codes in there haha
  • + 1
 Steeper? Yes, Nordkette Singletrail Big Grin
  • + 0
 Amazing! I just have one question, are they hiking up each one of these? I see no lifts around.
  • + 2
 HANK III awe yeah!!!
  • + 2
 Trail bosses
  • + 1
 WHISTLER, RIDE DONT SLIDE TEAM ALUMNI FOR SURE.
  • + 2
 Love the music too
  • + 0
 could it be any steeper? YES

vimeo.com/106715068
  • + 1
 Muted it. Looks steep.
  • + 1
 These guys are insane!
  • + 0
 These strapping young lads would enjoy some of the terrain up in NW Ont.
  • + 1
 scary. I want to go.
  • + 1
 haha, i love this track!
  • + 0
 Don´t hit that front brake dude Big Grin
  • + 2
 They probably do and I'd rather see more people who know how to use their front brake. Once a trail gets properly steep, you're always getting more mass over the contact patch of the front wheel with the ground than that of the rear wheel with the ground. Remember, on a down slope that is behind the axle (relative to the horizon) not right vertically underneath it. Hanging off the back and modern geometry (slack, low, except for the big wheels then) is going to help but still get a controlled braked front wheel at a deceleration where a braked rear wheel would already start to skid. If you were applying so much force on the front brake that you almost went over the bars, you already got so much deceleration that you could never get from the rear brake anyway.
  • + 0
 They should get rid of that tree at the bottom of that roller. '1:12
  • + 1
 Jeah!
  • + 0
 Red Bull Sky Gate is steeper
  • + 1
 HANK WILLIAMS!! Big Grin
  • + 0
 I think sometimes 27.5' is useful
  • + 1
 dope vid
  • + 1
 #newtiresnextrun
  • + 1
 Looks super fun! Beer
  • + 1
 EASY SHIT
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