Lol. I know that feeling. "I hate this, I hate this, I'm scared, why did I do this? Why can't I stop. I am not enjoying myself. AAAAAAAAAAAaaargh" Gets to the bottom. "Shall we do that again? I really enjoyed that" Doesn't wait for an answer and starts pushing back up...
1) kudos to the guy who managed to keep his flannel tucked in (apparently alex?) that's classy. 2) EVEN BIGGER to the dude who seems to have ridden this hell ON A MOTHERFROCKIN Y FRAME!!!???? am I wrong?! is that the red frame?! a f*ckin Y frame killin this shit?!?!?
Dressed for taking an inevitable fall. So sketch. Love this. I can't do huge drops, but I love going down shit that's steep. Stupid I always tell myself, but still try.
Pemberton is fun. Not been over the water in a couple of years now Different dirt, roots and conditions in different places. Makes different things challenging.Gotta love MTB.
I live in Tweed Valley, Scotland. We have a couple of trail builders that go out of their way to build stuff that they can't ride just to see if they can ride it, then once its mastered .... we ride it in the rain :-)
How can we compare what we just watched to BDS Llangollen, let alone general riding in Pemby vs UK? I'm quite sure none of us have ridden both Strapping Young Lad AND the BDS Llangollen DH course and watching five minute video clips online does not allow a proper comparison.
We're talking about something that is clearly challenging Kenny Smith. I think he might be just a little bit better than your average rider.
The camera does not do the steepness of this justice.
I don't think anyone is questioning the guys ability! I know exactly how hard it is to ride trails/land like this, A steep bit of land is always going to be a challenge no matter where it is in the world!
You sir, are full of yourself if you think you know what it's like to ride stuff Kenny, Alex and Walker have to dab on. Carry on thinking you know what's up.
"You Sir" are a bit of an idiot!.... Do you really think that those 3 guys are the only guys on this entire planet that can ride land like that? Really, are you that naïve? At what point did I say that I could ride that kind of land as good or better than them? I think you'll find I haven't. This thread is called "Could it be any steeper" My response to that is "yes it probably could get slightly steeper" Would I like to try steeper? NO!! Do I have land like this in my area? Yes. Do I ride it? Yes. Do I ride it as good as these guys NO! but I never ever said I did. You, for whatever reason just assumed I did...... I think it's time to take a step back off the high horse pal
Everyone has a local steep track. Think we can move on from that. Not ridden llangollen but I know people who have no issues with a soaking wet llangollen but won't touch the likes of trespasser, original crazy train.
From the top of my head i can think of at least 5 areas locally which have near vertical rocky cliffs covered with loam and peat. Most of which are too steep to stand up on. Every one of those has an excessively difficult trail down the side of it which some mad man built. Yes the trail in the video looks difficult and Yes the rider is very talented and still clearly struggling, that doesn't mean that the same terrain doesn't exist elsewhere in the world and that local riders/builders have mastered it.
I was more referring to "we would race that in the rain at the BDS Llangollen. That includes Juveniles and the women." Because that is absolute bullshit. I find it very hard to believe that anyone let alone juveniles would be going at race speeds on stuff that Kenny Smith is struggling on.
That video was funny. That looked like the more rugged bits of Canadian open. I stand by my opinion. Trespasser is steeper than anything I could drum up under "bds Llangollen". I'm sure there's steeper than SYL, but I'll be damned if I've seen it raced and anyone claiming such things is off their head..
I've not ridden Strapping Young Lad but I have done a few laps on another Pemby trail close by called Gravatron. I've also ridden Llangollen (whilst it was damp...). There are moves on Llangollen that are tougher than anything I encountered on Pemby's steep-fall line trails. That said, the tough stuff in Llangollen is all over in 2-3mins. The technical, steep riding in Pemby just keeps on going and going and going... It really tests your endurance, both physical and mental. I love Llangollen but Pemby wins for me, longer, more sustained, more exposure and ultimately more fun.
I was instantly pumped when I heard Hank 3. His music is honest and better than any "country" you will hear on radio or on CMT. Its actual country music.
That was hilarious. That's exactly how we rode our full rigid rim braked bikes in the eighties on trails half as steep. People complain that trails are being dumbed down when really their bikes are too fucking smart.
True that. Over here we have no big hills, the highest point near here is probably 30m/100ft high, and the trails we have are super easy. Because of that I ride a very minimalistic bike with no suspension, v-brakes and often even single speed. That way the trail becomes more interesting again. Can't understand how so many people ride full suspension bikes over here, or even 160mm enduro bikes, while you could easily and comfortably ride the trails on a road bike if you wanted to.
Sick riding. Video does not do the steepness of the trail justice whatsoever. Pemberton is nuts. I consider myself a pretty confident rider, but just going down a BLUE run in Pemberton, I ended up walking half the trail.
This is awesome. Has me thinking there should totally be downhill trials sections; trials rules, downhill bikes, and gnarly steep rock drops. Could be fun.
Thanks for the Vertriders vid that was awesome. Rampage is the coolest but it is a decidedly freeride event, the rules in trials biking have a lot to do about technical line choice, cleaning sections, and Dabs, but not the kind most mountain bikers are accustomed too.
I'd definitely like to see a DH trials competition. Being a former trials rider I attack every technical DH with the same mindset, no dabs and clearing every section. Trackstanding or nose turning tends to freakout my friends riding behind me, haha.
We need more free ride events. Utah isn't the only place with gnarly terrain. That was brave riding, I've rode trails/hills like that. It's not fun until your alive at the bottom, buts it's good training. Great video
All I can say that our trails have over this one...is if we had a trail that steep, at least the rhododendrens would catch you in a bail rather than just "Chris Farley in Black Sheepin'" all the way down the trail.
That is the time I would take a full suspension Plus or Fat tire bike. You're not using that much travel with brake skidding a lot of stuff, and the 3-4 inch tire contact patches really pay dividends for controlling the slide.
Luv these steep trails. You watch a rider commit and make a section. You stand up top hands on the bars and think shit shit shit! Then you let go of some brake creep down the slope when speed picks up you think holy f*ck im doing this ! If you get to the bottom of the steep you feel a huge rush! Nothing else like it! That looked fun in a shit your pants kind of way. Tripple black diamond
This should encourage everyone to go do some honest freeriding. I've been dabbling when I happen upon such terrain, and it is a good time! There are some dudes out in Logan, UT doing rad stuff like this, actually. I think everyone would be surprised how many riders are quietly getting after it on gnarly, pick-your-line-and-go, old-school inspired terrain.
I live in pemberton and have ridden the trails in the tweed valley. They are steep in the tweed valley. Such good riding. Short but really good. Innerleighthen was the name
Haha! "F*ck.. youuu!!" I was also waiting for some blastbeats and people riding down super steep hills. But I gotta say Hank III in addition to the riding also did the job. Last time I went to see Hank, the end of the show was pretty much equal the loudness of SYL.
They probably do and I'd rather see more people who know how to use their front brake. Once a trail gets properly steep, you're always getting more mass over the contact patch of the front wheel with the ground than that of the rear wheel with the ground. Remember, on a down slope that is behind the axle (relative to the horizon) not right vertically underneath it. Hanging off the back and modern geometry (slack, low, except for the big wheels then) is going to help but still get a controlled braked front wheel at a deceleration where a braked rear wheel would already start to skid. If you were applying so much force on the front brake that you almost went over the bars, you already got so much deceleration that you could never get from the rear brake anyway.
I somewhat agree, actually. Although at a certain point, the steepness makes it much more comfortable to be on the slackest DH sled you can find. Otherwise, you end up riding a trials-like descent, hoping and sliding down as you kiss your rear tire with your puckered sphincter. [yeah, that analogy was necessary.]
Not being an arse but rampage is more likely steeper and gnarlier. Still wouldn't ever want to drive down these lines though! It looks crazy, seems like it's just a side of a mtn where loggers work, and they just rode down. Interesting to watch.
I guess I don’t know what fun is because I’m guilty of thinking exactly that kind of thing is a blast. I even thought the song went perfectly with the edit.
@Terrafire - if you're talking about my comment about Marz suspension then yeah you're right, I haven't experienced it. I went to college so I don't have to experience 3rd world suspension.
"I hate this, I hate this, I'm scared, why did I do this? Why can't I stop. I am not enjoying myself. AAAAAAAAAAAaaargh"
Gets to the bottom.
"Shall we do that again? I really enjoyed that"
Doesn't wait for an answer and starts pushing back up...
Different dirt, roots and conditions in different places. Makes different things challenging.Gotta love MTB.
Every one of those has an excessively difficult trail down the side of it which some mad man built. Yes the trail in the video looks difficult and Yes the rider is very talented and still clearly struggling, that doesn't mean that the same terrain doesn't exist elsewhere in the world and that local riders/builders have mastered it.
come on son, it's a bike race!
Scotland
Innerleithen
Prospacker trail
STEEP
near death experience :-)
A) Find this hill
B) Ride this hill
C) Look smug, you survived
BIKE SET UP: Your handlebars are way to f*cking low
Like what the Vertriders do?
www.redbull.com/en/bike/stories/1331600629361/vertriders-the-line
That sucker is steep...and there is just nothing to grab onto or stop you if you bail. : www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NxAdXi1r5o
Then you let go of some brake creep down the slope when speed picks up you think holy f*ck im doing this ! If you get to the bottom of the steep you feel a huge rush! Nothing else like it!
That looked fun in a shit your pants kind of way.
Tripple black diamond
I was also waiting for some blastbeats and people riding down super steep hills. But I gotta say Hank III in addition to the riding also did the job. Last time I went to see Hank, the end of the show was pretty much equal the loudness of SYL.
this looks brutal fun! (fun brutal - plain fun...)
ride don´t slide (have heard that somewhere)
maybe they should consult Harald Philipp...
just nice
I'm braking as hard as I can and I seem to be getting faster.
Love that feeling!
vimeo.com/106715068
This guy made the trail look harder than it is eh?