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I know what my problem is, on the extension, I never actually get my hips that close to the bar and my front wheel never gets that high off the ground before my back wheel leaves the ground. Now my next problem is looking like an idiot in my apartment parking lot this spring.
with bunny hops and with ollies...sometimes you need to have a forced one...as in just start barreling towards the obstacle and go for it. You'll be surprised how high you can pop.
Even if you don't want to go full tilt towards some wheel munching sharp edge concrete lip of doom, use some bricks and a wooden cane and make a little high jump bar which you can keep adjusting upwards. Halfway house I guess. I'm sure I did this about 25 years ago learning to bunny hop out in the street and very quickly got up to clearing a wheel diameter. Time and lack of practice have not been kind, no way could I hop up that high now.
When I was growing up, lifting the front wheel first and then the rear was called a "rocket hop" both wheels at the same time was a "bunny hop". Interesting how the lingo changes based on world regions. Great informative video as usual. I'm a NICA coach and direct our students towards your video content. Thank you!
J-hop, bronco hop I've heard over the years.....one interesting name I heard, this is probably back in the late 80's early 90's in the trials scene was "Total Unload" for a double wheel traditional bunny hop, I laughed as hard then as I do know every time I hear that
early 80s we called it a bronco too. bunny hops were the equivalent of using clipless pedals today. They were for the kids that couldn't even hop a curb. Which was a very important skill.
I remember "J Hops" for what Cathro is teaching (though more with an emphasis on getting the front wheel over an obstacle first and then the back wheel but still all in the same movement and not necessarily for sheer height) in this video and "Bunny Hop" for both wheels hopping at the same time in early MTB but I also remember being taught to "Bunny Hop" a BMX in the way Cathro is teaching here... so sure it varied depending on where and what you learnt.
If you want to get the rear wheel closer to the height of the front, then there's another stage you can add onto the end of this, which is as the rear wheel rises push your bum back and claw your bars up and then push them forward. Done right you end up in a deep hip hinge with your arms almost straight ahead and your bum on the rear wheel.
Thanks for mentioning the second half with the foot scoop! I feel like that can't be understated enough - at least in my own case. It screwed me up for months trying to bend my knees more so I could scoop the pedals towards my ass (exaggerating the progression technique from almost every other video), before realizing it was more-so bringing my knees towards my chest and keeping tension with the bars and pedals. Cheers!
Thanks Ben, for making videos that explain, instead of just demonstrating. I can do some fairly poor hops but I just promised myself I will go and seriously practice this year to get that bar hump going!
i used to be able to to 2 feet with a hardtail, still can do foot and a half with a dh bike. coordination of the movement is crucial, worth more than muscle
I've always known a bunny hop as the simultaneous 2 wheel lift, while the more advanced version called a j-hop. This was eluded to with the J-shape comment. The J-hop term seems to have disappeared over the years.
this is the kind of thing that high schoolers argued about in 2007. mentioning the word J-hop is instant triggered cringe. a simultaneous 2 wheel lift is useful nowhere, in any situation. There's no name distinguishing both, there's no point. Theres the correct form for a bunny hop, and anything else (two wheel jerk up) is nothing.
@jdkellogg: I see I've found my highschool arguer counterpart. hahaha
In all seriousness. I wasn't suggesting once is right vs wrong, just that the term that was dominant in my time has disappeared. Nothing more, nothing less. I am curious about why the term would trigger you though?
@jdkellogg: while the debate can still be held on naming convention - 2 wheel lifts are 100% still used although in indirect ways. IME they come into play anytime you un-weight the bike, say before a jump you want to scrub or off of a steep drop you can pop off of so you don't auger your front wheel or through a nasty rock garden as you 'pump' the bike through it....go watch a guy like Chris Akrigg pump around rocks and obstacles, you are seeing a very sim technique used.
@jdkellogg: if you ever find yourself in a rut so deep and narrow you risk clipping pedals even when you have them level (think cart track) : this is where a two wheel hop is useful.
@jdkellogg: Yawn. You do you, I do me. My old school two wheel bunny hop serves me just fine jumping up sidewalks and over roots and rocks on the trail, thank you very much.
@jdkellogg: I would agree with others here that learning to load the bike then simultaneously unweight both the wheels has a whole load of applications on the trail and is used a lot. No harm in having more skills. Be a silly argument to say of two different movements on a bike that one is wrong as every situation and application is different. Learning to do both movement patterns would seem the ideal strat.
I have changed now! I'm not watching season two :-P
Me, my family and my friends all ride 26" bikes all the time.
Old, yes, but not dead just yet :-D
In all seriousness. I wasn't suggesting once is right vs wrong, just that the term that was dominant in my time has disappeared. Nothing more, nothing less. I am curious about why the term would trigger you though?
Watch this @ 2:13 (many other instances)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2EpYdhj9a8
You do you, I do me. My old school two wheel bunny hop serves me just fine jumping up sidewalks and over roots and rocks on the trail, thank you very much.