It's all fun and games until Rudolph crosses the trails... @jannicklange nearly punctured his lung after this wild run-in with an elk. He is alright and on the mend.
Just was like: "That's not an elk, that's a red deer..." Turns out for the british, an elk is an elk, for the americans an elk is a red deer. What!? Why!?
According to the riders instagram post it was in Lac Blanc, there are no elks there, but red deer.
@TerrapinBen: According to dict.cc elk does sometimes get translated to "Rothirsch" in German, which would be the red deer. Just based on where it is, Lac Blanc in the Alsace region of France, it is 100% a red deer (Cervus elaphus).
Edit: Elk also can be translated to "Elch" in German. That would be, according to Wikipedia, Alces alces.
According to me (american) and the internetz, what the British call an elk is actually a moose (Alces alces). I have never called a deer an elk. When I see an elk, it is quite large, and it is not a deer.
@ct0413: being actually British. A moose is one of those big things that run around in Canada. An elk is different to a moose. More like a massive red deer. He can run around in other places
@Intensevp: Wi not trei a holiday in Sweeden this yer ? See the loveli lakes The wonderful telephone system And mani interesting furry animals Including the majestic moose A moose once bit my sister... No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge—her brother-in-law— an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies: "The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink"... Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti
Elk is fun for a little variety, but not my favorite meat by a long shot - like a super lean cut of beef, not really a unique flavor to real make it jump out. I don't eat tons of meat these days, but when I want red meat that isn't beef I always like to play the field... but come back to lamb.
@luisgerstner: huh, then that isn’t an elk, it’s a red deer (no wapiti/elk in Europe). But ya know, asking a bike journalist to identify the difference is like asking a hunting journalist to identify a “down country” mtb
@Glenngineer: Downvoted to hidden? WTF is wrong with people? You had a reasonable and solid opinion. Is it now: pick your game and be a dick about it day?
@carters75: naah fam. I am to fragile. If I would have to wear a mask at any point it would make me very insecure. I have so little going for me in my life, that if my government told me to wear a mask in case it might save someones life, I would not comply and die on that hill!
But hey, thats just me, your average smooth brained monkey man!
@Adamrideshisbike Except that nutty lunatic ideas whipped up of the top of the head without basis in fact or actual reality - just BS musings, the pure definition of "don't want to explain why" because its all opinion. The US ultra left & right in the US (and maybe you guys too) are both neck-deep in the stench of it and its truly sad - what was formerly a solid, rational center has devolved into opinionated tools & idiots without the actual foundation of facts - and Rogan leads the charge.
@mtb-jon: Touche my man - its the actual pseudoscience bozo's that have no facts and only (poorly thought out) opinions to support their factlessless. Truly defies all logic and modernity.
@VelkePivo: Pretty sure nobody said "can't" Just that it reduced the chances. However, we did need to learn a lot in a very short time, so things did evolve. That's how science works.
“So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it." -- Anthony Fauci (and in fact they were just as, or nearly as, infectious)
"People who are vaccinated for the coronavirus cannot spread it to you." - Joe Biden
@VelkePivo: OK, So Fauci said that in May of 2021. Like I said, he did not say "can't", so thanks for the verification. As to Biden, yea, he did say that last December before Omicron started raging, so I stand corrected on that, however at the time, he was "kinda" right with the original variants. So, like I said, things evolved over a very short period of time, just like science does.
@Chuckolicious: “When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere."
The larger point is, science doesn't proceed from authority, and at its core is supposed to be humility. Instead what anyone with misgivings or skepticism received was ridicule, at best, or a loss of livelihood at worst.
@Chuckolicious: perfectly reasonable to make inferences with no basis. That's why people don't trust public health. But y'all think a podcaster is the problem.
@Adamrideshisbike: No. It means utter bullshit that isn't proven or backed up by the scientific method.....you know, the process that put a man on the moon and allowed for pretty much everything else that we enjoy in the modern world. Including the bikes we ride.
@Chuckolicious: LOl.It's not worth arguing with people with this mindset. Unlike science that will try to disprove itself and accept that and move forward they will take that one "fact" to the grave. Sadly sometimes quite literally.
shut up and ride your bikes, leave rogan for the polarized and who cannot handle with a pinch of salt what he gives platform to.... (I wont go to lac blanc ; ).. my son's first bike park. )/
@mtb-jon: Your cited studies are outdated. Your "reputable" sources now admit the vaccines do not prevent or substantially mitigate transmission. You can just look around you at all the vaccinated and boosted people who got Covid 2, 3 or more times. As for efficacy at mitigating the severity of covid, I and most others would agree that has been clearly demonstrated. But so does losing weight and taking vitamin D. Consider the possibility that it's you and your ilk who are the ones impervious to evidence and good sense for social reasons.
@Chuckolicious: The point is he and others spoke declaratively that what they said was TRUE and ridiculed people who had doubts, and those people have been proven correct. The whole point of mandates was to protect others, and the vaccines did little-to-nothing to stop transmission.
@VelkePivo: hey man Covid is a bit of a done deal now, we’ve worked it all through using science, which is just a process for understanding the world, and are out the other side with a fairly solid understanding of it all. I think the other nuts have left you behind and are on to Trump or crypto now, time to move on eh?
@Peskycoots: But "we" didn't work through it with just science. It was an ugly mix of tribalism, fear, politics and profit. And talk to Dustfarter about moving on.
@mtb-jon: When I see vaxxed and boosted people all round me and in the media getting covid, I don't need a study to know it was in error to say the vaccine prevents transmission. I would advise thinking for yourself and not completely trusting authority.
@VelkePivo: yeah... kinda hard to take you serious when you tell med to think for myself while saying that you get youre convictions from the tv in the same breath.
You do realize that the people around you got covid not because the vaccine was ineffective but because people around them didnt get vaccinated. It really doesnt take more then two brain cells to figure that one out. I can excuse ignorance but being antivaxx in 2022? Come on, that is just being straight up dumb
@mtb-jon: I appreciate you engaging with this topic, however I think the opening statement of your second paragraph is a gross overstatement, and I am saying that as a vaxxed and boosted person. Ever since the emergence of the Delta variant, which happened in late Spring 2021, about 4-5months after the vaccines were rolled out, the vaccine effectiveness took a serious hit, such that vaxx advocates should have recalibrated and gotten off their high horses when it comes to the transmission issue. This outbreak (www.reuters.com/world/us/majority-covid-19-cases-large-public-events-were-among-vaccinated-us-cdc-study-2021-07-30) should have been a wake up call for everyone, but the public health messaging remained largely unchanged, so I can understand the vaxx skeptics being frustrated.
There is still a strong argument to be made for vaxxes reducing serious illness or death, but that is largely a case based on self interest, rather that community interest and preventing the spread. Similarly, antibody levels drop precipitously in the months after receiving an MRNA vaxx such that you are pretty much back to baseline after 4-5months. There is still the some potential for protection from B and T cell immunity, but that hasn't been quantified, so making statements as to the level of protection retained 6+months post dose are unwarranted.
Again, I am vaxxed and recently boosted, but I am under no illusions that it will provide me with a high degree of protection against contracting or passing on Covid, particularly the Omicron variants now circulating, and that goes doubly once I get past that 4ish month period of elevated antibodies. I got the recent booster due to plans I had for a few high risk events in this time period, but in no way do I consider myself morally superior to someone who chooses not to get vaxxed. It really irritates me to see people who got the initial doses and no recent boosters, acting as if they are well protected 12+ months later (they're not), going maskless (despite Omicron being in wide circulation), all while talking trash about the unvaxxed.
If you've gotten all available boosters, and are wearing a properly fitted N95 respirator in all public indoor settings (which offers better protection than the vaxxes), then my apologies, you're doing your part and deserve to ride a high horse, and can freely talk trash about everyone else, both vaxxed and unvaxxed.
@mtb-jon: I'll close out my participation here by saying I'm not the least bit "antivaxx." If I didn't have a hyper-active immune system and medical advisement not to take the vaccine, I would have. What I am against is the immediate bullying that took place, the idiotic lockdowns, and I'm deeply suspicious of how pharma, their political donees and media all fell into lockstep.
@carters75: I listened to the supercut of him saying n****r over and over again. That's all I need to know about the quality of the man. But you do you, boo.
@barp: you've basically said it twice now on a bike forum should we not pay attention to you either? How about we cut up what you said out of context and let the world know how racist you are. That's all the "news media" does these days so it should be ok for the public to do as well.
That's terrifying. Imagine that happening, you get up thinking wtf, then you look down and there's a hole in your stomach. Hopefully he missed the antlers.
Wtf, glad I live in Australia...bears, cougars and now dear. More things to fear!
Like and episode of forged in fire, it's not what your blade does to the antlers, it's what the antlers do to your blade.
Obviously the antlers fck you up!
No thanks.
Hope the rider is okay.
Yeh I just ride solo with a bandage in case of snake bite, thankful I dont have to wear a stab vest in case of deer and carry a desert eagle in case of grizzlies and mountain lions.
They are nuts ,they appear from nowhere ,I had here in Portugal ,yes Portugal 2 encounters not like that but scary has shit like where the f*ck did this thing came ,it was in the Alentejo region ,they just jump fences and act like crazy to find another fence to cross ,even on the roads ,they are a danger,I caught one in the night on the road and say what ?lucky the animal was facing forward ,because facing you with the head lights they go blind and it you (poor things )I think Santa doesn’t have control on them now ,the best for you ,that was a scary thing
Rut season casualty? I just came across a large mule deer buck and a couple of doe who were (uncharacteristically) not interested in moving off the trail. Thought maybe it was magic time...
I remember this happening to the lad up in front of me night riding but with a 60 kg deer. Just sideswiped him off the trail in front of me. He had his lights on his bars so he had absolutely no idea what had happened so was just running around in the dark terrified. I had to stop laughing before I could tell him what had happened.
i had a hurd of deer charge along beside me on a cannockchace night ride years ago,thay all started crossing the trail in front and behind me jumping about 5 ft in the air it was crazy thay were moveing way faster than we could ride leaping through the undergrowth in the pitch dark night like it was mid day.
I though I saw a guy at beacon hill get hit by/or hit a deer on the steep section of "commitment issues". It was out of the corner of my eye, but I looked over and the guy had fell, and a deer was running away from where he was. If that was you, someone did see it. I think it was last season
Rider is pretty lucky. I know of multiple people who have had similar run ins with deer on motos and been punctured by their antlers causing some pretty serious damage.
@Mtn-Goat-13: You, like many others are likely baseing your "opinion" on rumor and not from "actually" listening. I really don't care if you or anyone likes Rogan, but I do find it funny that most don't actually listen to someone then base your opinon on what you heard they say or stand for. This is the primary reason why people can't be bothered to have conversation with others of different viewpoints, they are too busy bashing them or being "offended".
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No eye deer
Is it rutting season in that part of the world?
Glad you’re ok.
Turns out for the british, an elk is an elk, for the americans an elk is a red deer. What!? Why!?
According to the riders instagram post it was in Lac Blanc, there are no elks there, but red deer.
Edit: Elk also can be translated to "Elch" in German. That would be, according to Wikipedia, Alces alces.
So in review the only demographic who is improperly naming this animal is the editors at Pink Bike.
See the loveli lakes
The wonderful telephone system
And mani interesting furry animals
Including the majestic moose
A moose once bit my sister...
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge—her brother-in-law— an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies: "The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink"...
Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti
It is an actual word that means false science.
But hey, thats just me, your average smooth brained monkey man!
“So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it." -- Anthony Fauci (and in fact they were just as, or nearly as, infectious)
"People who are vaccinated for the coronavirus cannot spread it to you." - Joe Biden
The larger point is, science doesn't proceed from authority, and at its core is supposed to be humility. Instead what anyone with misgivings or skepticism received was ridicule, at best, or a loss of livelihood at worst.
covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccine-effectiveness
www.healthdata.org/covid/covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-summary
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34800687
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34268515
www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-and-protection
three of my links are dated inbetween january and august 2022. where the steongest supporting study is dated 25 august 2022. Is it really outdated?
I really would advice against trusting anecdotal observations above peer reviewed studies when it comes to statistics.
You do realize that the people around you got covid not because the vaccine was ineffective but because people around them didnt get vaccinated.
It really doesnt take more then two brain cells to figure that one out.
I can excuse ignorance but being antivaxx in 2022? Come on, that is just being straight up dumb
There is still a strong argument to be made for vaxxes reducing serious illness or death, but that is largely a case based on self interest, rather that community interest and preventing the spread. Similarly, antibody levels drop precipitously in the months after receiving an MRNA vaxx such that you are pretty much back to baseline after 4-5months. There is still the some potential for protection from B and T cell immunity, but that hasn't been quantified, so making statements as to the level of protection retained 6+months post dose are unwarranted.
Again, I am vaxxed and recently boosted, but I am under no illusions that it will provide me with a high degree of protection against contracting or passing on Covid, particularly the Omicron variants now circulating, and that goes doubly once I get past that 4ish month period of elevated antibodies. I got the recent booster due to plans I had for a few high risk events in this time period, but in no way do I consider myself morally superior to someone who chooses not to get vaxxed. It really irritates me to see people who got the initial doses and no recent boosters, acting as if they are well protected 12+ months later (they're not), going maskless (despite Omicron being in wide circulation), all while talking trash about the unvaxxed.
If you've gotten all available boosters, and are wearing a properly fitted N95 respirator in all public indoor settings (which offers better protection than the vaxxes), then my apologies, you're doing your part and deserve to ride a high horse, and can freely talk trash about everyone else, both vaxxed and unvaxxed.
Keep drinking the leftist cool aid.
Please, do me next. I f*cking dare you to make me look even 1% as racist as that guy.
How's Ernie the elk doing?
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