Video: Hitting Jumps & Drops for the First Time - Full Enduro Episode 4

Nov 5, 2019 at 18:09
by Pinkbike Originals  


FULL ENDURO

EPISODE 4


Zoe heads to the Whistler Bike Park to join up with local coach and shredder Katrina Strand. Together they tackle two of the most intimidating skills in mountain biking--jumps and drops. Will Zoe push her fears aside and release her inner send? Watch and find out.

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Filmed & Edited by Will Binamé.



150 Comments

  • 84 2
 Love the warning at the start of the video! Don't change!
  • 15 1
 Beat me to it... we're all just adults playing on kids toys in the woods.
  • 3 0
 That was a nice touch!
  • 5 0
 The warming was absolutely Savage. Love it. Great series.
  • 3 0
 That was fantastic.
  • 64 4
 She needs wider bars
  • 33 50
flag pressurecooker (Nov 6, 2019 at 14:16) (Below Threshold)
 Just what every girls needs... Another guy telling her what he thinks she needs...
  • 8 1
 Handlebar width is directly proportional to helmet size
  • 17 24
flag pressurecooker (Nov 6, 2019 at 15:16) (Below Threshold)
 Haha down voted by a bunch of boys. Figures. Some things will never change on PB.
  • 23 1
 @pressurecooker: I think the "wider bars" thing is an ongoing joke around here. Don't take it too personally.
  • 5 0
 We need more cow bells!
  • 8 1
 @pressurecooker: Have you considered trying wider bars?
  • 5 0
 @pressurecooker: Did the see the fun/fake warning at the beginning of the video? I'd just comment "Whoosh"... but it's kinda played out.
  • 49 2
 First off thanks for the adding some diversity to the content! Its fun watching someone else learn and getting a break from the product end of the sport... -Please though, go easy on the music in the mix because its waaaay too loud at parts and often unnecessary while people are talking.
  • 19 3
 I had to stop watching because I couldn’t understand anything they were saying over the music!
  • 1 0
 Yes, sorry Pinkbike, but I'm only 4 mins in and the music is super distracting and annoying. Simply too loud.
  • 37 1
 She did really well, sent the jump better than the instructor, good series but as another has said, can you just drop the music a bit as it’s a bit loud / distracting
  • 33 2
 Katrina Strand is a badass
  • 33 8
 She is a great teacher for sure. She communicates very well with confident voice and posture. No weird concepts, I am very, very impressed.
  • 4 2
 Love her.
  • 6 0
 After seeing this video I'd love to invest in a coaching day from her.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I don't get your downvotes - I agree with what you're saying.
  • 10 5
 @spinko: the echo of yesterday. People are upset and offended
  • 25 0
 Thank you for this - I appreciate the feedback!
  • 25 1
 I get the whole thing about being in "the MTB environment," but when I was a kid I learned drop timing and speed from riding off of various curbs and grind boxes near my house. Little to no consequence and much learning. Also had lots of fun slamming the front brake and jumping over the bars on a grassy field.
Bike parks are great for improving, but you don't need to spend 60+ bucks on a lift ticket to learn the essentials.
  • 5 0
 Yeah! Messing around on a bmx as a kid really helps, learned most the essentials doing that, I think anyone who’s serious about mtb should really learn to manual for a start
  • 9 1
 ssteve:
Not everyone gets to learn those types of skills as a kid. Some people may not have had their own bike growing up and/or maybe didn't get the type of bike that is suitable for that sort of thing until much later on in life. If learning at a bike park works for some people, what difference does it make? At least they're out riding and trying new things!
  • 1 0
 @srh2: I don’t understand how what I said contradicts your point of view on this tbh, I like bike parks as well, I just always tell my mates who are asking me about drops and stuff to spend some time trying to pop manuals
  • 3 0
 @srh2: my bad Man you weren’t actually talking to me, I’m bad at the internet..
  • 2 0
 @srh2: nothing wrong with it, all I'm saying is you don't need to buy a lift ticket to learn some basic skills.
  • 3 0
 @Wincobankchef: It's ok... I'm bad at the internet as well Smile
  • 25 1
 Instructor's jump demo scared me for a moment
  • 4 1
 I agree, I immediately thought she's going over! lol not sure if that was a good example
  • 26 0
 I gotta say, not my best demo to date!
  • 4 0
 @katrina: you still Rock!!Smile
  • 1 0
 @katrina: Just blame the production team... everyone f*cks up, they should have told you to have another go, especially considering your line of work. haha!
  • 1 0
 I met katrina a month ago on a parking lot in Pemberton and we rode together... believe me guys she’s fit and skilled! I would be curious to know how many guys would have the level to ride as fast and commit as she disnon the slabs and gnarly sections... @katrina:
  • 1 0
 @frenchyrider: Hi!! Vincent! That was a fun day, so glad we got to do that together Smile .
  • 22 3
 Dat brake bump knob grater behind the drop... your wrists and eye balls are like: "guess we'll die"
  • 2 0
 And then the wankers parked at the bottom of it in the middle of the trail.
  • 15 0
 OMG, that was awesome. I should have watched that like years ago, it would have been a huge help for me...but, I must say, I do love the moment when you get closer to the drop and you realize d say to yourself " o God, I am gonna do that..." :-))) Waiting for the next episode. Cheers.
  • 5 3
 Rule of thumb: Don't go to new trails/bike parks and throttle all of the jumps on the first run. You have to check the course first to figure out size/scale and speed. Had a very skilled friend do that and flat bottomed what looked to be a big jump but wasn't. A couple of broken ribs and broken bike parts later, he was sitting in the rental while everyone else was out riding on the vacation.
  • 18 0
 That was great! Amazing to see Zoe go from doing the small drop at the start of the day to sending that big one!
  • 13 2
 The most helpful explanation of good jumping technique I've ever seen came from a link in the comments a few days ago...treating the jump like it's a trampoline. The harder your press yourself into the jump, the higher you go. Just like a trampoline. No pulling involved.
  • 4 1
 Its not deleted, its in the trash bin entitled 'below threshold'. I wonder why?
  • 1 0
 Seriously this. What a great explanation. I loved that article
  • 4 0
 Ha, that was me Smile did a jump course at BPW and he explained it like a trampoline jump. Smooth preload and smooth pop. Helped me massively. Not sure it made sense till i tried it, then it clicked.
  • 3 0
 That's a great one... another to go along with it that helped me a lot and keep you from just slamming and popping your handlebars... is to think "heavy feet".

When I jump now, thinking "heavy feet" has got be pushing more through my whole body into the bike an then releasing, which gives you a nice evenly weighted, control-able push and pop.
  • 1 0
 Got a link to that?
  • 9 0
 The is the best one yet! I loved seeing and hearing her excitement of getting into her first jumps and drops, that's such a pivotal moment for a rider. And EXCELLENT coaching from Kristina.
  • 1 0
 *This
  • 12 0
 Hey - thanks! It's a true passion of mine - to build confidence and skills for every rider - so that means a lot to me Smile
  • 3 0
 @katrina: Wow, sorry for the name typo! I'd like to blame my phone but it was probably my mistake...
  • 12 1
 ditch the music,, so takes away from a great video
  • 15 5
 Lotta guys with 8K bikes in the local trailhead lot that wouldn't have sent that bigger drop. Just sayin'
  • 9 1
 But, in their defense, they'd probably still take a photo next to it to show their buds at work.
  • 3 0
 @shlotch: socially experienced "osmosis" ,a mental tendency to record and extract the good bits of weekend endeavours and embellish oneself to the fellow employees to perpetuate a valued ideal in other people's minds. i see that happen a lot at my work institution
  • 2 0
 And no problem with that... just sayin'
  • 7 0
 I've really enjoyed watching this series. I'm a 42 year old Colorado, XC oriented rider. I finally toured the PNW, Squamish, and Whistler this summer. I started in Oakridge (yeah MBO!) and worked my way north.

I received a few days of coaching from Maddie and Neil at the Whistler Bike School. They are awesome coaches and people and completely changed my riding. I'd never taken a lesson before and they broke some of the bad habits I'd had for 20 years. They taught me proper berm, drop, and jump techniques, similar to the topics I've seen in this series. They really helped improve my confidence riding park features and techier lines. I could climb 4k feet at elevation, but my downhill technique was wanting.

I still have loads to improve upon, but before my journey, I'd measure a ride by the number of miles covered and elevation gained. Of course the downhills were the fun part, but maybe not the measure of a ride. The amount of suffering is what mattered. Strange. I've found this is a common mindset in CO. In fact, I'd never ridden a lift to ride before and I live 20 minutes from the Snowmass bike park. Cuz you gotta earn your turns, right? Turns out, park laps are work, too! Anyway, my time in Oregon, Washington, and B.C. changed me. All I can think of now is how I want the steeper lines, slabby rock, and the magical dirt found in the PNW and B.C. Wet roots not so much. Hopefully I can return again after ski season. I'd move to Squamish in a heartbeat if I could. Might have to settle for Bellingham Smile

Big thanks to Maddie and Neil and Whistler Bike School!
  • 1 0
 I'm friends with Maddie, so I told her about your great post Smile Sounds like you had a great time. Nice.
  • 2 0
 Hey ! Thank you so much for your feedback this is why I love this job Big Grin ! Come see us in Whistler anytime!
  • 2 0
 @MaddieL: Hurray! You saw my comment! I'm trying to make it back next summer. Have a badass ski season Smile
  • 10 1
 'Speed' not 'momentum' (mass x velocity)... otherwise this was great.
  • 5 0
 I bristled at that a bit, too. But to be fair, since their weight (mass) isn't changing as they ride, speed and momentum are proportional and essentially interchangeable.
  • 5 0
 @MtbSince84: Very true... It would be fun to see someone try 'more momentum' by filling their pack with rocks and hitting the drop at the same speed, though.
  • 1 0
 @Bartimaeus: Well volunteered!
  • 2 0
 @dingus: I don't need a pack full of rocks to crash and burn on features like that!
  • 1 0
 Yes, that ground with me. As a coach, rather than use the word momentum (a lot) I would just say speed. It's the same thing and simpler to understand.
  • 4 0
 Loving this series and Zoe looked great in the air IMHO. Her measured confidence is such a great tool- its funny that with confidence straight airing drops and jumps are actually technically a very easy thing to do on a bike. Problem is always the consequence which can drop that confidence and thats when the brakes get hit, people creep over drops, or spaz out in the air. She looked solid. Way more goes into cornering or varying body position to navigate a chunky chute or steep section technically. Thanks for sharing the journey with us PB and Zoe- what a great vehicle to promote growth in old and new riders.
  • 2 0
 She looked pretty spooked by that drop-off - and I thought she was going to OTB on her first run - so it was great to see her nail it with the lead out. I'm sharing this series with our School MTB Club as it' shows excellent teamwork between coach and student... I'd be well pleased to ride as well as that!
  • 3 0
 Something to be said of the important of setting your kids up with a plywood ramp as young as possible to establish those skills as early as possible. Very cool to see someone willing to learn and take those risk as a more mature rider. (no I am not calling out anything to do with age, but we all agree a 12 year old kid can bounce back like no one else lol) not to mention absolutely zero responsibility to worry about injury!
  • 20 0
 Well, I'm still learning to jump properly and am 53, so it's never too late! Wink
  • 3 0
 Plywood ramps are good if they are of good quality. I made a homemade one as a kid (think British Napolian Dynamite) - not recommended. Found the BMX track to be best.
  • 3 0
 @cool3: never to late for air time!
  • 2 0
 @tremeer023: but thats how you teach your kids to bail!
  • 4 2
 I sort of don't get how/why people learning to do these things aren't wearing neck braces along with their FF helmet... wait: I don't get why we do this kind of stuff without neck braces. If I put one on my middle-school child, why am I not wearing one, too...?
  • 1 0
 Agreed. I've found that if you want your kids protected and them to buy into it...you have to model it 100% of the time. The minute I put a half shell on, my kids (7 and 5) notice it. I do see more and more people riding with protection. It's all comfy stuff for the most part.
  • 2 0
 I'm a firm believer that a Leatt neck brace saved my life in Whistler in 2014. New TLD carbon helmet cracked in 3 locations, collar bone and elbow busted up good... but no neck injury!!
  • 2 0
 The fashion police have decided neck braces aren't cool and that's that. Only one neck brace at rampage means no one can be caught dead with them at the bike park. The indisputable evidence that they reduce catastrophic injuries AND reduce collar bone breaks with no side affects be damned. I'm writing this and I don't wear one...
  • 3 0
 OK, repeat after me: handle...
Oh, wait...
Momentum Smile

Kidding aside, a few slowmoes of both would have helped to spot potential differences.

And who picked that music ?!? Smile
  • 2 0
 PB is really doing some great work with series like this and The Privateer! I don't even watch TV anymore, I just sit my fat-as on the couch and stare at my phone for hours instead. *perfect*
  • 1 0
 This is AWESOME! Shameless plug for Zoe to work with Susan Clifford (Rocky Mountain Ambassador and Skills Coach). I worked with Sue two years ago and she's amazing to work with with. Really dials in skills and find that little bit you're missing to make you look like a pro on the trails. I'd love to see what Zoe and Sue could do!
  • 1 0
 Looking for expert opinion as I'm building some skills park jump lines up to intermediate. I'm trying to figure out which style of jumps are best for real skill development. Some expert freeride coaches I know say something like a few progressive lines of 14' radius jumps build the real skill best and dont require as much speed... and that more flat jumps like in this video dont prepare you for the trail. Then I talk to less jumpy coaches who prefer jumps like in this video because they are super easy with zero lip etc. I like the super easy flat jumps for ultra-newbies and kids...but the jumps on the trails are rarely that easy and flat. Also the preload and unloading mechanism of BMX style riding and jumping seems to be the ultimate in skill...but you get nearly none of that on flat jumps like the Whistler jumps shown in this video (crank it up). Any thoughts from some well experienced people who jump really well would be appreciated.
  • 5 0
 Came here only to see if they cut the handlebar
  • 5 0
 Please turn the (awful) backing music down - or preferably off!
  • 5 0
 The not very background music is driving me nuts!
  • 1 0
 Hey get that girl on some flat pedals, so she can really learn how to jump and drop. Her first run at the big table top looked good overall, but I wasn't feeling confident about her connection to the bike. I suspect her feet would've come right off the pedals, if she wasn't clipped....
  • 4 0
 Safe to say this series has MOMENTUM
  • 4 0
 Perhaps the talking should be louder than the back ground music??!!
  • 4 0
 Turn off the stupid music.
  • 1 0
 Love the crystal clear instruction. Definitely learned a lot watching the fundamental breakdown, followed but incremental addition. Wider handlebars would have allowed more gnar though...
  • 1 0
 Smile . Actually, I do need wider bars . . .
  • 8 6
 Just came for the comments.
  • 15 17
 Love the vid! Would love to be out there working on my own skills.

Hey Katrina- just want to clarify something for you regarding the "momentum" idea vs "speed." In this context, what you're actually referring to is speed, not momentum. Momentum is speed x mass, so technically riders going the same speed into a drop have different momentum as they likely don't have exactly the same mass. In simple terms, not including friction of moving through the air, surface area of the rider, etc., the starting speed (or velocity) is what determines the distance (or trajectory) a rider (or object in motion) is going to achieve when launching off of a drop. So speed is the correct word to use when talking about this.
  • 9 4
 Try to clarify words being used to make things simpler and more accurate... get downvoted. LOL! Smh.

An extra clarification for the downvoters- a rider's mass can be considered fixed when they're out riding (you're not gaining or losing much mass when eating/drinking/sweating) so the ONLY way to increase momentum is to... increase speed. Talk about speed, not momentum.
  • 3 9
flag endlessblockades (Nov 6, 2019 at 8:57) (Below Threshold)
 #mansplaining breh.
  • 6 1
 @endlessblockades: ? Not really... pretty sure if it was a dude he would say the same but hey now we're both making stupid assumptions
  • 2 0
 not wrong
  • 7 1
 @endlessblockades: it's MASSplaining dumbass.
  • 2 1
 Mansplaining, in its original form, can be done by both men and women, it is just that it was more likely to be a man. Proper mansplaining, as defined by the originator, is when the explainer ASSUMES the explainee has less knowledge than the explainer. If the explainee has proven that they know less than the explainer, it is not mansplaining. That such a wonderful term has been misused and misapplied breaks my heart.
  • 2 0
 @iamamodel: It may have been misused, but the fact that it has the word "man" in it implies that the concept of assuming the explainee has less knowledge and needs the obvious spelled out to them is a male trait. Ergo, actually quite sexist and derogatory. It's like telling someone they have PMS because they're being emotional or irrational places the emotional/irrational trait solely on women.

But you're totally right - the term is now just being used to discount pretty much anything a man explains to a woman.
  • 4 0
 @iamamodel: And it's all such garbage.The term belongs in a dung heap.
  • 7 0
 @iamamodel: the word you're looking for is condescending. 'Mansplaining' is a non-word invented by modern day feminism with no application to real life other than to be a tw*t.
  • 2 0
 @priest55: You are spot on.
  • 2 0
 @priest55: Not bad.
  • 2 0
 @motomikey: people can’t stand the truth these days.
  • 7 1
 Gotcha. Very scientific Wink I really liked the word momentum in this vid didn't I? Haha, I laughed a few times at myself! Way back when I started coaching (like almost 20 years ago - yikes!), I started using that word because I found that riders interpreted the word speed as 'go as fast as you can' and it led to a lot of messy situations. So I used momentum - which from what I understand is defined as mass in motion (mass X velocity) - and it worked. I use the word momentum too when simply working on flow through a trail . . . or, I'll also say something like 'gather up enough speed so you can flow over (whatever the obstacle/obstacles happen to be).

Anyways, perhaps it's some terminology I can play with next summer while coaching! Thanks for the feedback Smile
  • 1 0
 @katrina: Thanks for replying to the comment! I definitely didn't mean it as criticism and appreciate your thorough response. I can see how using the word speed in certain situations could get a bit messy or misunderstood and makes sense on why you'd need to be particular with your commands when asking a rider to do something that could end spectacularly lol. Cheers to next summer!
  • 1 0
 Is it just me or you really don't have some speed and just PUSH to go off a drop? Especially this being a beginner video!
  • 1 0
 I think if you are going slower, its much easier to put a small compression and huck the drop instead. Its better to be good at the push I'm guessing but even the coach mentioned that slower drops use more of a preload technique than a push. That being said, Skills with Phil shows you how to do a very aggressive push (a manual basically) to hit big drops slowly...so whichever keeps you out of the ER.
  • 3 1
 @Svinyard:

I think it's safer to teach a beginner the huck technique. Preload and pull the front end up a little bit off the lip, so you control the angle of your bike. I've seen a lot of people hit drops and end up landing way front heavy because they don't do this, and they just let the jump send them where it wants. When you do the "huck" technique you control the bike, and if you do it correctly you can always push the front wheel down to flatten out before the landing if you are rear heavy. Just pushing the the nose in off the takeoff doesn't allow you to change body and bike position in the air, cause you're not in as much of an active stance, in my opinion.
  • 2 0
 @Svinyard: sense this is for beginners I think they literally think push the front wheel down over the drop.... Just thinking it could be better explained as pushing down on the bar a bit to move your body weight up and back lofting the front wheel over the edge of the drop. The slower you go the harder the pull must be.
  • 1 0
 Does anyone know which whistler track has those 4 gaps that appear from the 5 minutes of the video?
  • 2 0
 I believe they are about half way down crank it up
  • 1 0
 halfway down crank it up, off the left of the trail, next to where joyride passes over the top with the wooden crank it up sign. This is also at the end of schleyer on the right.
  • 1 0
 It's a good thing Zoe is a pro, because that first drop would be WAY too big for a beginner...
  • 1 0
 Doh....that will teach me to comment prior to watching the video!
  • 2 1
 Bars too wide, loss of control
  • 1 0
 Bars too wide = maximum radness
  • 1 0
 some fun here in the downvotes world....
  • 1 0
 What a fantastic episode. You are a great teacher Katrina.
  • 1 0
 THANK YOU! Doing my best Smile
  • 1 0
 Well, that was brilliant. I could use an @Katrina to help me out as well.
  • 1 0
 Come ride with me in Whistler?!?! www.strandtraining.com (shameless plug haha!)
  • 1 0
 Nice second drop.. ...right into horrendous braking bumps.
  • 1 0
 Useful vídeo, annoying music.
  • 1 1
 I'm only here to comment about her bar width
  • 4 5
 Waiting for the "your bars are too wide" comments to flood in!
  • 2 0
 Well I WAS going to... Maybe my shoulders are just bad because those bars would be an injury waiting to happen for me. MX bike bars aren't that wide!
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