simples... putting on narrow bars to ride in traffic and asking if the frame could be made of recycled cardboard from a 3rd world country whilst sippin on a fair trade decaf soy chai tea
I see maaxis joined in on the fat bike market, I bet we will see a fox fatty fork coming out in the near future to compete with the RS one. Gully did do the flip before and he went a little bigger, but Aaron did cork it nicely and he was riding pivot's pivot-less bike without the RS fatty fork.
This is the first time I've seen a fat bike marketed as a bike for trails just like all other bikes. Normally its riding down the beach or in the snow or some epic cross country journey Which just makes me think i have no use for this bike.
Tandem Fat E-Bike with 3 ring setup on the front and 2 bells for good measure. Oh and a long banana seat wrapped in cow hide. Would that please the people of PB?
The guy is a legend... happy for him that he signed on with Pivot. For the last few years seems like Cannondale made no bikes for him to ride or his riding style.
I agree @BeardlessMarinRider. The RM edit made me think "what a waste of powder" (id rather ski it) but,mud, snow, sandpits, those are the conditions a fat bike makes sense for.
Aaron Chase was my favorite rider from the first minute I watched Chain Reaction 4...he's the tits. It's awesome to see a video like this how many years later
I didn't see much in there that couldn't be ridden on a "normal" bike. And I for one find Aaron much more stylin' on his "normal" bike and would much rather watch him shred on the regular LES, Point, or M4X. It would be much radder. I have to stop watching these fat bike videos, or I might just convince myself that riding is lame.
PAmtbiker, i think you are missing my point, which is "why"? If he can do all that on a regular bike, and do it better and with more style, then why bother with these abominations?! I disagree that you can ride it like a normal bike. Go watch a video of Chase on any other bike. waaay more rad and waaay more style. I said the same thing about Simmons, Tippie and Gully on fatbikes...
Hank, I think you're right, I should stop watching these videos that try and make look fatbiking look cool. It's just not working for me.
note : In 5 years when fatbikes aren't cool anymore, I'm gonna post a screen shot of this comment with hundreds of neg props, showing that fat bikes were in fact the worst trend ever, and everyone here was wrong and I was right, which I will rub in, and get even more neg props.
you're going for prop-ception here where you say you expect neg props but you actually dont want them. Fatbikes aren't cool thats why people like them, just like 29ers. they "do it" for some people. i'm not a fan, but i also don't mind other people liking different things than me.
without a heaping pile of fresh juicy neg props, my purpose in life of claiming "I was right, everyone else was wrong, and that fat bikes suck" over the internet cannot happen. Please do not get in the way of my dreams.
also, no one on the internet is allowed to like anything different then me, please adjust your hobbies accordingly.
Superfunhappyland - your comment seems to point at a possibility that you follow trends closely and you are quite concerned what is cool and what isn't, because you seem to be scared of falling into a wrong grove, holding on tightly to normality.
To me Fatbikes are a test of how beige peole are
you are correct Waki..... all the cool kids made fun of me today when I rode my fat bike (which I love) to school today..... I don't get it, my mom buys me all the trendy things to fit in, but I keep falling into this grove.... I just wanna be normal !
Just going to point out that SOMETIMES the industry creates things that actually have a BENEFIT in some application. 29ers get up to a fast speed quicker than a 26er- they make sense for really pedally shit like XC racing. Fat bikes have like 5 inch tires so provide a shit ton of traction in snow and other slippy surfaces.
Sure, things like "CTD" and "147mm rear axles" are complete bullshit, but if you actually think about it, most products do have a very real application, even if the industry is marketing them to be way more. Things like fat DH bikes and 650b freeride bikes are stretching it, but big wheel sizes and big tire sizes were originally meant to give a very real advantage in certain situations.
For bikers who live in places were there trails are covered in snow for 6months of the year. why wouldnt you own a fatty for keeping the stoke alive over winter or hitting the trails a little earlyer and later in the sping and fall. I think that fat bikes are so over hyped. But I will still get one for next winter, but I willl sure as hell put it away for summer again, and get my real bikes out.
what if commenting on internet forums is just a bicycle industry trend? and in five years someone will post a screenshot (but where?) of this comment and there will be no such things as "neg props" because we'll eventually realize that is an oxy moron, and we'll stop making fun of the things we will all buy eventually anyway.
The Chromag bikes "Nice Dreams" is available now. It is designed here in Whistler, B.C., Canada by Ian Ritz and handmade in Squamish, B.C., by Mike Truelove with True Temper steel tubes. For more info contact info@chromagbikes.com
wait, what? really? How is there no photos of that? I almost wanted the Rocky Mtn Fatbike, but I had restraint. Probably not going to be able to resist a Chromag
@Chromagbikes The Nice Dreams looks sick, but would have been stoked to see it with a 12x197 rear end. Would the modular dropouts allow for it, or would a 4.8" tire not fit between the stays and/or interfere with the chainline with the chosen Q-factor?
Surly has made one for the last 10 years, feel so bad for those guys, they're the Chromag of the east (not counting exprezo) and get no credit for being the pioneers of this new fad. Guess that's how she goes when you're on the east!
Surly is in the mid-west not the the east. Dont feel too bad for them. They've been pumping out over built steel bikes for a long time, with the $$ backing of QBP, north-america's biggest bike parts wholesaler. They arent exactly a small company that one need feel bad for.
Phatflip or it didn't happen. It's not just fatbikes, though. Almost any high level edit on any bike. Even road bikes. I don't know how it's worn thin on fatties, yet. I think I've seen 3 phatflips so far? Aristotle Peters. Then Gully. And now Chase.
I was sold on fatbikes and going to get a cheap one for the snow but AC is pretty darn good and he by no means made it look easy. Decision changed I think
Tire choice is critical on fatbikes, and those Maxxis have minimal tread on most of the tire. I've only ridden them briefly, but they are a fast roller, hardpack type of tire. It's the wrong tire for these conditions.
He's riding a rigid XC bike dude. It might have huge tires, but that's what it is. I can't say I recall ever seeing someone getting it that hard on a rigid xc bike before. Killing it.
For sure totally agree, he is killing it, so sweet to watch, people seem to forget that fatbikes are rigid, and think that the tires are suspension, they are not. And @ conanangus, why would this convince not to get a fat bike, sick riding lots of flow in my opinion.
Bike looks beautiful. Has some really crazy versatility with the features they built into it. Seems very intelligently and thoroughly thought out. Everything Except the press fit BB :-/ uhhhhg. I like threaded BB's, especially from a; high torque, constantly exposed to wet shitty variable temperature weather conditions, will need to be serviced/replaced... sort of application.
Hits: Rack mounts. Three bottle mounts. 12x197 rear thru axle& 15x150 front thru axle. Incredibly adaptable dropouts. Suspension corrected. ISCG 05 mounts. 210mm Q-Factor, clean and well executed cable routing
Misses: Press fit BB, would have liked the HTA closer to 68/68.5, would have like the STA closer to 73/73.5, they should have incorporated the 3 pack mounts on the front fork
The HTA and STA should actually come closer to what I was looking for than their listed geo when you factor in sag on the Bluto, but are still a tad steep/slack respectively. Would love to have a go on one though. I think I would consider this guy over a lot of the other carbon fat steeds just for the versatility.
Fat bikes hold a lot of interest to me. I cannot at this time justify the price to ride ratio at this time. I hope one day I will find a fatty that someone else got tired of and get one that way. Pivot does get the award for the best name for a fat bike. Les Fat. It's great how it is a spin on the irony of the company name and it has a little bit of humor for/from the french. I know Les is plural but still it is a clever name.
How would you like it if someone filmed you on a fatbike and posted it for the world to see?? It's like blasting Taylor Swift on your car stereo while driving through Compton (Mr. Chase's awesomeness did have me emotionally conflicted for a second or two... then I thought, ya but no one's is gonna laugh at that dude and try to slap him with a wet mackerel)
For snow riding I put a mud tyre on front, and guess what, traction is awesome... Don´t get me wrong, everybody should ride what he likes, but I´m pretty bored of this endlessly repeated mantra "oh it´s soo much better for snow and sand" Reminds me a little bit of 29er`s "oh it´s so much better for rolling over gnarly terrain" Fatties look nice in a strange way and are really a funny toy, but that´s all
why do they keep trying to say Fatbikes are the same as dirt bikes, or trial bikes or trail bikes- they are their own little fun bikes, for messing and playing, not getting serious on the single track,
on-one had a guy street riding etc on theirs, mongoose had the AWESOME talents of Chris Akrigg dong his tricks on the fat wheels, although at least he was riding on soft sand and actually showing what a fat bike can be best used for (except the tricks of course), and this one - cant remember what company had some guys playing in the snow, but that was more realistic of Fat Bike Fun
also, why all the suspension frames and forks (not this model -- obvs !!!) - solid frames and spongy HUGE tires, that's the blueprint for Fat Bikes - i think the bikes companies that are jumping on the bandwagon are missing the point big time - cheap, cheerful and fun - thats what they should be, no overweight versions of enduro bikes!!!
That´s he point. They are not going to replace a dirt bike, enduro or whatever. But companys usually try to make their videos look like they would exactly do this. "Look, super fun trail riding, and look, you even can backflip this beast!" But the same rider on any trail bike would shred the hell out of the trail, with half the effort
i couldn't care less about fat bikes, but i'm stoked for @BangBangTheMovie and would enjoy watching him ride any old clunker. lucent productions make pretty sick edits too! way to go boys!
Everyone is saying this is the first day bien back flip but it's not. The video of Geoff gulefich (spelt it wrong) was the first I saw. The video for the Rocky Mountain blizzard.
You know if downhill tires weren't so god damn skinny this days we could all have fat bikes! I put 3.0" wide tires on my Demo at 15psi and it slays the snow!
His facial expressions looks like he's thinking "Lets get this over with, this is f*cking stupid". I'm sure thats what mine looked like when i watched half of the video. Hang a "gone skiing" sign on this website and wait for western Canada to thaw.
Depends a lot on where/what you are riding. I actually do ride a Specialized Demo in the snow with 3.0" wide tires and I have a blast. I can't justify spending $3,000 on a Fat Bike and I also can't go through a quarter of the stuff a Fat Bike can.
However I live around flat fields so I shouldn't have a downhill bike in the first place.
171 Comments
its shame that chase rips highland better than me in the snow on a fatty then I do mid season on a rig ::standing ovation ::
Probably their Mac books and gluten free diets.
Looked like fuuun to me!
AC is so talented as this video goes to show but was kind of wasting his later years with Cannondale.
Definitely one upped the Rocky Mountain vid
Hank, I think you're right, I should stop watching these videos that try and make look fatbiking look cool. It's just not working for me.
Can Fat Bikes go away now ?
note : In 5 years when fatbikes aren't cool anymore, I'm gonna post a screen shot of this comment with hundreds of neg props, showing that fat bikes were in fact the worst trend ever, and everyone here was wrong and I was right, which I will rub in, and get even more neg props.
Please do not get in the way of my dreams.
also, no one on the internet is allowed to like anything different then me, please adjust your hobbies accordingly.
Sure, things like "CTD" and "147mm rear axles" are complete bullshit, but if you actually think about it, most products do have a very real application, even if the industry is marketing them to be way more. Things like fat DH bikes and 650b freeride bikes are stretching it, but big wheel sizes and big tire sizes were originally meant to give a very real advantage in certain situations.
A bit like beards?
Cue: neg props for slamming neg props. Lol
It's a fatbike with trailbike flavour.
I almost wanted the Rocky Mtn Fatbike, but I had restraint. Probably not going to be able to resist a Chromag
The Nice Dreams looks sick, but would have been stoked to see it with a 12x197 rear end. Would the modular dropouts allow for it, or would a 4.8" tire not fit between the stays and/or interfere with the chainline with the chosen Q-factor?
Surly is in the mid-west not the the east. Dont feel too bad for them. They've been pumping out over built steel bikes for a long time, with the $$ backing of QBP, north-america's biggest bike parts wholesaler. They arent exactly a small company that one need feel bad for.
Hits: Rack mounts. Three bottle mounts. 12x197 rear thru axle& 15x150 front thru axle. Incredibly adaptable dropouts. Suspension corrected. ISCG 05 mounts. 210mm Q-Factor, clean and well executed cable routing
Misses: Press fit BB, would have liked the HTA closer to 68/68.5, would have like the STA closer to 73/73.5, they should have incorporated the 3 pack mounts on the front fork
The HTA and STA should actually come closer to what I was looking for than their listed geo when you factor in sag on the Bluto, but are still a tad steep/slack respectively.
Would love to have a go on one though. I think I would consider this guy over a lot of the other carbon fat steeds just for the versatility.
Pivot does get the award for the best name for a fat bike.
Les Fat.
It's great how it is a spin on the irony of the company name and it has a little bit of humor for/from the french. I know Les is plural but still it is a clever name.
on-one had a guy street riding etc on theirs, mongoose had the AWESOME talents of Chris Akrigg dong his tricks on the fat wheels, although at least he was riding on soft sand and actually showing what a fat bike can be best used for (except the tricks of course), and this one - cant remember what company had some guys playing in the snow, but that was more realistic of Fat Bike Fun
also, why all the suspension frames and forks (not this model -- obvs !!!) - solid frames and spongy HUGE tires, that's the blueprint for Fat Bikes - i think the bikes companies that are jumping on the bandwagon are missing the point big time - cheap, cheerful and fun - thats what they should be, no overweight versions of enduro bikes!!!
say that 5 times fast... .
I put 3.0" wide tires on my Demo at 15psi and it slays the snow!
Why does everybody shoves fat bikes in our mouth....
I actually do ride a Specialized Demo in the snow with 3.0" wide tires and I have a blast. I can't justify spending $3,000 on a Fat Bike and I also can't go through a quarter of the stuff a Fat Bike can.
However I live around flat fields so I shouldn't have a downhill bike in the first place.
Join Pinkbike Login