Nicholi Rogatkin Sends World First MTB 1440 at Red Bull District Ride

Sep 1, 2017 at 13:57
by Red Bull Bike  


Another Angle (thanks to Guibike and anchoricex for the find)



1440s, Backflip Superman One-Handed Seatgrabs, Tsunami Backflips, Double-Frontflips: The Best-Trick Contest at Red Bull District Ride truly saw the next step in the evolution of Slopestyle mountain biking. The tens-of-thousands of spectators in the historic town center of Nuremberg were treated with a show for the ages as nine riders dropped down the 15m-high ramp from the fourth floor of Nuremberg’s town hall and shot into the sky over the 4.5m-high kicker.

Nico Scholze started off the epic showdown with his signature Tsunami-Backflip in front of his home crowd. With 25 minutes left on the clock, Nicholi Rogatkin dialed it up to eleven and showed the world’s first 1440 on a mountain bike but a skewed landing left him wanting more. Szymon Godziek dropped in next and showed a picture-perfect Backflip Superman One-Handed Seatgrab for the first time in a contest and fired up the crowd even more.

Winner Nicholi Rogatkin of the United States posing for a photograph during the best trick contest of the Red Bull District Ride 2017 in Nuremberg Germany on September 1st 2017 Marc M ller Red Bull Content Pool P-20170901-11731 Usage for editorial use only Please go to www.redbullcontentpool.com for further information.

With no time for the crowd to take a breath in between runs, Bienvenido Aguado Alba dropped in moments later and took the lead with an unbelievably clean Double Frontflip. With six minutes left on the clock, Rogatkin dropped in wanting more and stuck his 1440 clean to take the win of the Red Bull District Ride Best-Trick Contest.


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153 Comments
  • 53 6
 i suck at counting can someone show me the 4th spin cause i only tally 3 and i keep replaying it

edit: nvm compared with his 1080 i see it now.
  • 8 53
flag Frenchemetalheads (Sep 1, 2017 at 14:12) (Below Threshold)
 In fact what he did is 1080, basically ryan williams invented those spiny tricks and he doesn't count the last corked spin. So the twister is a720front, the "1440" is a 1080. Ryan williams is the reference but rogatkin count differently.
  • 24 4
 probably comes from how skiing and snowboarding describe spins where each time you "cork", its another counted rotation.
  • 16 3
 nvm now i dont know.
  • 15 8
 alright now im sure this is a 1080 again.
  • 7 5
 Because a cashroll has allways been called 720 frontflip but it litterly is a frontflip 360. He did one rotation more so it was a frontflip 1080. Now this is a frontflip 1440 but he only does 1080
  • 29 2
 ok nvm again now im all fucked up i see a 1440 again
  • 6 2
 You can't really see the first rotation with these camera angles.
  • 10 5
 @NeedDirt2ride: I believe they're counting all rotations, in every axis, he spins 3 times horizontally and basically does a vertical flip too, all that combined equals 4 rotations, however one vertical and one horizontal kinda blend together. To me it's a corked 1080.
  • 61 4
 god damnit this is a 1080 with a weird half body twist in it to give you the illusion of a 1440 sent by the government to brainwash us fuck this i quit
  • 16 1
 It's a 1440. The angle is bad, but his first spin occurs the instant the video starts and you can't even see it in the second clip. Watch his helmet, his face comes around 4 times. and yes he turns sideways for the middle portion, but he still fully rotates 4 times. I wouldn't consider this one of those corked technicalities he never completes a flip. Looks legit to me.
  • 11 1
 much better www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8UQG3i5Go
  • 22 6
 Hahaha, you guys suck at counting spins and the amount of misinformation is side splitting hilarious.
  • 4 2
 @anchoricex: guys check out ryan williams facebook, he just post about that and say congarys to nicholi for landing the first cork1440 / 1080frontflip, so nobody is right nobody is wrong
  • 4 0
 Play the slowmo video and pause it every time the bike does one full rotation and count the times you pause it.
  • 12 0
 @anchoricex: In the nicest way possible, I thoroughly enjoyed watching your progression through all of this.
  • 3 0
 @anchoricex: you're funny
  • 19 0
 Definitely 4 full 360's. You guys are stoned.
  • 8 1
 @BiNARYBiKE: Second clip makes it wicked easy to count them. He kind of disappears over the back edge finishing the 4th, but I stepped though it revolution by revolution.
  • 11 0
 @AZRyder: not fair I'm stoned and still see four full rotations.
  • 3 0
 @anchoricex: you win the day! i am still laughing at this comment...
  • 2 0
 I thought the same thing until I looked at the slow motion version. That one is clear that its a 1440 with 4 full rotations.
  • 2 0
 Right?! How do they not see him rotate 4 times??! @scott-townes:
  • 2 2
 @splsce: Gapers cannot count I guess... its sad really.
  • 28 1
 These camera angles miss the first 360. Watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVi4dhEG8mc
  • 7 1
 PERFECT! so he really did do a 14... I thought this might have been happening, but the OP video was quite misleading. Wild to see a 14 done on a bike!
  • 27 1
 Hmm, I'm still not convinced, I can only get the resolution up to 1080p.
  • 2 0
 Oh my god I got goosebumps he spun so fast
  • 30 1
 To end this argument here is the best angle yet:
youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0
  • 4 0
 @colincolin: dammit!
  • 3 0
 @colincolin:
  • 6 0
 @colincolin: where did you find that video of Greg Minnar singing 80's hits?
  • 24 2
 People keep talking about style but I'm pretty sure no one does a 1440 with more style than Rogatkin. Pretty damn sure.
  • 10 14
flag rockymountainsrule (Sep 1, 2017 at 23:23) (Below Threshold)
 dude none of these faggots have even taken their hands off the bars, pretty sure
  • 10 8
 @rockymountainsrule: you suck bro. Take your homophobic trolling elsewhere. Bikes don't want you.
  • 1 5
flag rockymountainsrule (Sep 4, 2017 at 21:38) (Below Threshold)
 @michaelhowie: lol, just seeing your comments on every other thread makes me SOOOO happy you live on the other side of the world from me. wow
  • 19 3
 I don't get it why a lot of dudes hate Rogatkin. If you really hate him why not start a petition and throw him out of the league and lets see if you guys succeed. You guys are all talk. Stylish or not, the guy is a beast. Stop discrediting him. He already proved himself.
  • 7 8
 I don't think peiple hate Rogatkin. I think it's just more about how stuff is judged. I think Rogatkin is great but.I still rather watch someone with less extreme tricks and more flow. Glad I don't have to be a jugde at a slopestyle contest..
  • 10 1
 @Samuli-1: more flow as compared to what? Rogatkin deserves to be in the finals as many of the other riders. There was a qualification run and judges decided who to let in. It's not like he just barged in there. He earned it. I'm sick of you people discrediting the guy like all he does is twister and a cashroll like it was the most common trick in the world. You join the fmb world tour if you can.
  • 10 3
 @Samuli-1: Yeah bro. Let's just award people for doing more simple tricks which have been done for a while that allow for more "style" which at the basis is making it look easy... because it is for that rider. That makes complete sense and wouldn't destroy progression at all. f*ck it, why not limit all jump comps to just whips! yeeeeew!
  • 4 6
 @fatfingur:
He damn sure deserves to be in the finals and deserves the wins he gets. I would never deny that or question the results since I'm no judge. I just know what I personally like more. I think flow includes the whole run, not just what happens in the air. Pedalling between jumps like a madman, attacking the lips instead of just letting it roll trough naturally, overshooting the landing and landing with a hard hit.. These are not flow I think but I guess it has a lot to do with the nature of slopestyle or trick contest. The tracks are built for big tricks and have quite long gaps between each feature if you compare them to a more traditional dirt jump spot where it can be quite tight and there's no idle time between the jumps.

But anyway, like I said in my first reply, I think Rogatkin is great and he gives a lot to the sport. But to me personally, his contest runs are more about being extreme and exciting rather than aestethics. But I guess the whole contest thing would be pointless without pushing the boundaries.
  • 16 1
 Huge props to Rogatkin for the skill required to do this.......I can't even imagine how he does this stuff, or any of these slopestyle dudes do what they do.....they are all truly amazing. That said, I can't help thinking that watching this stuff is kinda like watching Elaine Benes dance
  • 15 1
 I´ve been there today, and was just insane! 90% of the audience are just ordinary people who didnt even knew whats going on there. Nicoli himself was like: "WOW for real? I made it?" When we came to the track to take some pictures. What a beast. And a pretty nice guy.
  • 15 0
 When did bike tricks get so confusing that there's actually arguments about how many spins there are lol
  • 12 0
 Today.
  • 13 1
 When you're doing a trick nobody else in the world can do, you don't need style, though Rogatkin's balls to the wall style is growing on me.
  • 3 0
 Rogatkin just needed this one more rotation to look smooth...haha. That was pretty damn clean and stylish.
  • 10 1
 for people comenting on style, one point to think about:
I remember what a snowboard judge (and ex-pro) said in an interview about style: how important should style be in competition, since is a totally subjective thing?
you gotta check some old vids; first 720's weren't stylish at all. Then people started doing them in bigger kickers, so then they have more time to look easy and effortless, that's where 'style' comes from.
Adding one more spin is never gonna look stylish in the begining.
  • 26 17
 I'm the only who think that's ugly ? It's remember me triple in ski slopestyle, everybody complain about it because it's looks terrible but they all try to do it because if you do it you win ...
  • 12 17
flag butters (Sep 1, 2017 at 14:50) (Below Threshold)
 I couldn't agree more... just a bunch of spinning with zero style...
  • 5 8
 Except with skiing the jumps are even bigger so it maybe looks a little better...
  • 18 11
 I hate to do it but I will: Semenuk still seems to have more style in his runs that Rogatkin. I mean, Nicholi throws it down, and goes big, and is willing to put it all on the line to take those risks, but Brandon seems better focused on the details. Semenuk does little tricks in ways that nobody else has done them, and even if they are theoretically easy to do, they appear to require more imagination that the brute force big tricks that Rogatkin has been landing lately.
  • 15 10
 I have home court preferences, and even I say that someone like rheeder or semenuk looks better doing the tricks that aren't as large as nicholi's. Yeah, nicholi is doing 1080 frontflips and now 1440's, but it doesn't look very natural. Nicholi is very explosive and goes huge, but others do things like cork 720's and look better doing them. Downvote me all you want, this is my opinion
  • 16 5
 You're all forgetting that pretty much EVERY trick looks ugly when people first start doing them.

Semenuks "Candy Bar" at Whistler didn't look like anything special either. Both tricks will look nice and pretty in a couple years. That's how progression works kids...
  • 8 1
 @PHeller: in the 90s scores for Rogatkin most of this year. While Semenuk gets VERY LUCKY and takes Joyride with a 89 something.

But me personally I think I almost liked Godziek's backflip superman one hand seat grab better!!! Wink
  • 3 2
 @DigRenno: arguably that was not the best run he could have thrown down but rather a solid one to start with.
  • 2 5
 @DigRenno: Its like music. Rogatkin may be a better musician, but I still like Semenuks vibes.
  • 5 4
 @DigRenno: The only reason he was scored so low was because he was the first to go. The judges have to give a low score just in case a few others throw better runs. A half cab off the drop, flip double whip, dub whip both ways, both ways cork 7s, candy bar backflip off a drop, 360 whip off a hip jump, etc. etc. would not score an 89 if done as the last rider to go.

That was a legendary run that would only be beat by either Rheeder slightly one-upping his run by doing both way cork 7s (one with a barspin), and his half cab barspin drop or Rogatkin doing is "normal" legendary run.

You're an idiot, plain and simple.
  • 2 0
 @MisterJones Yes it is. But its hard to win events with lazy whips and nac nacs
  • 3 6
 It's gymnastics on a bike. Not saying there isn't talent involved but it doesn't appeal to me at all.

Same thing happened to snowboarding 8(?) years ago. Now there's a huge resurgence of style (see Danny Davis) not just body contortions.
  • 3 1
 @MasterSlater: Szymon's one handed superman seatgrab is steezy AF & it's brand new...
  • 1 7
flag Kirky86 (Sep 2, 2017 at 14:18) (Below Threshold)
 You're entirely correct. Style isn't scored anymore. Just foampit hucks risked on dirt. Be prepared for the downvotes.
  • 8 1
 @valhallascott: This same argument is brought up in every action sport and has been for over a decade. The funny thing is, people were saying the same shit when people were doing double tailwhips and 720s on mtbing, and when people were doing 1080s and then dub corks in skiing and snowboarding.

Its essentially jackasses who want to keep the rotations down just so it resembles the "old days" without accounting for more talented riders coming up who will do those newly done tricks with style. You're one of those jackasses with zero vision of the bigger picture that inevitably progresses the sport, plain and simple.
  • 2 5
 No need to get angry about it. Nobody is saying that Rogatkin shouldn't be throwing these massive spin/flips/corks whatever, we're just saying that while it is progress, and while they are amazing from a physical accomplishment, there is something about the more imaginative "easy" tricks done in news ways that is still impressive. I never grow tired of watching a guy go huge at Rampage, but that shouldn't always be the winning trick.
  • 2 7
flag valhallascott (Sep 3, 2017 at 3:59) (Below Threshold)
 @scott-townes: I see your point but don't agree.

To me, since riding bikes is an expression of a persons style, how they do it should have some style. While I admire the skill & technical merit required to throw a 1440, 1620, 2288 or whatever it is, I think they look terrible. It looks like diving or gymnastics, not smoothly going down the mountain.

Does throwing more spins really mean more talent? Aggy would be a good reference for bikes, he may not throw as many spins as other guys but he has so much style doing what he does, it's amazing to watch.

In snowboarding, there's been a huge backlash with the "gymnastic" riding, contests are awarding more points for stylish moves even if they have less twirls. Danny Davis is a great example. He may not throw 1440's but his 720's 20' out of the pipe are amazing to watch. It's almost impossible to throw big spin tricks with any style whatsoever, your body is contorting no-stop just to get the move around. A well executed, lower spin trick that oozes style is often more difficult than spinning like a top, holding on & hoping you land it.

I'm not saying Rogatkin can't ride, he's great, it's just his style looks like he's doing gymnastics on a bike, which isn't stylish... (the no visor thing doesn't help. The only guy that can pull that off & look good is Mat Hoffman, because he's a badass who can do whatever he wants.)
  • 4 5
 @valhallascott: Your reading comprehension skills suck almost as bad as your opinion.
  • 1 0
 The butthurt is strong in this one...
  • 3 1
 @scott-townes: brilliantly put mate.
  • 1 0
 @MasterSlater: preach mah dude
  • 1 3
 @scott-townes: It's cool, we have different opinions. Rogatkin is a great rider but to me it looks like he's doing gymnastics on a bike. I feel the same way about spinning on snowboards or skis. I prefer a rider like Doerfling, Aggy or Danny Davis but to each his own.

Don't get hurt by it, we just don't like the same thing, even if we are both named Scott.
  • 2 4
 @valhallascott: LOL, you just named two riders who don't compete in slope comps. as examples of riders you prefer to watch in slope comps. instead of Rogatkin. You have no clue.
  • 2 0
 @scott-townes: dude just let it be. This shit isn't a big deal. He's entitled to his opinion and you're entitled to yours. The disrespect is completely unnecessary.
  • 11 0
 Hell ya Nicholi, that was insane! Can't wait to see what to see what he has next!
  • 10 0
 This is an amazing feat of human athleticism. Wow. Great job Nicholi. You are pushing the sport forward!
  • 10 1
 Whatever sh*t you keep saying about Nicholi tricks vs style, it's still the judges' decision that will prevail! So yeah, keep on rocking Nicholi!
  • 11 1
 It's gonna be a while before anyone can beat him at a best trick comp when he's landing.
  • 5 0
 Holy sh!t- its actually a 1440 AND a late barrel roll. The first 360 Nicholi looks sort of nosed in from the slow motion camera angle. The second 360 clearly shows him parallel to the ground, banked over to his left side. The third 360 has him front wheel forward and completely upside down. The fourth 360 has him right side up.
  • 1 0
 1080 cashroll
  • 8 0
 Every extreme sport needs a Rogatkin where posing stays far and balls come big.
  • 4 0
 I think the reason some people have a love/hate thing with Rogatkin is because he's the Ricky Bobby of slopestyle. He either wins with something insanely brilliant and revolutionary or he crashes out. Very little in between. "If you're not first, you're last." --RB
  • 6 0
 Seems like 4 spins from this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8UQG3i5Go
(good angle, and slowmo)
  • 4 0
 ok yeah this settles it. redbull just used a very shitty clip. now i can sleep in peace
  • 4 0
 Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby. That's a negative Ghost rider, the pattern is full.
  • 5 2
 Whole lot of haterade on this thread, he spun 4 times, watch the slo-mo and learn to count, most of you probably can't even spin a 360 or even a 180 for that matter
  • 3 1
 Here is the slo-mo from a different angle which clearly shows 4 spins...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8UQG3i5Go
  • 3 0
 Enough with the counts.. it's a legit 1440! 4 full rotations.. just look for a video with a better angle.
  • 3 0
 If Rogatkin can pull these tricks without the bullet helmet his street cred will go through the roof..
  • 2 0
 adds to his style that no one says he has and is fuckin cool...esp when he used to do the lawn dart front flip. Better have some pretty big balls if you're gonna imitate that style.
  • 40 37
 I'm gonna say it. I don't care that he can spin a lot.
  • 87 7
 Sorry everyone, hype is cancelled. Turns out the worlds first MTB 1440 isn't impressive. A Mr. Chubaca of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan has notified the community that he doesn't care if Rogatkin can spin a lot.

Wink
  • 11 21
flag BiNARYBiKE (Sep 1, 2017 at 15:02) (Below Threshold)
 For the record, I prefer tricks that require more style and technicality. But this is still so impressive.
  • 2 11
flag e-loop (Sep 1, 2017 at 15:22) (Below Threshold)
 @MrChubaca at least he didn't break his elbow
  • 20 7
 @BiNARYBiKE: Stomping a corked 1440 seems pretty stylee and tech to me...
  • 10 1
 Have you ever tried a 360? If so, then you probably know that the margin of error is pretty slim between landing and crashing. Now imagine 4 spins, higher degree of difficulty + faster rotations = greater consequence if crash occurs. If that doesn't impress you, then I don't know what will.
  • 7 0
 @lobohusky: probably boobs.
  • 2 1
 @slayerdegnar: corked spins are lead with the head backwards over the shoulder. How are so many MTBers this ignorant about rotations?
  • 3 4
 @lobohusky: dude @BiNARYBiKE is 38 years old, he probably doesn't even know what a 360 is
  • 2 0
 @rockymountainsrule: thats like where you lean back and the bike does a flippy thing right? lol
  • 2 0
 @slayerdegnar: one more rotation is all he needed...pretty clean and style for miles...no one is launching off the ramp that early...so f*cking sick
  • 1 0
 @rcrdrvr: one more rotation for what?
  • 1 0
 @therealtylerdurden: for the the style to show
  • 2 0
 @rcrdrvr: LOL.
  • 3 0
 This shouldn't be possible...
  • 9 6
 You can keep tryin to hate him but you'll be running out of friends quick.
  • 4 3
 Guess I should've watched the video first. Maybe it's a metric 1440...
  • 7 4
 That's 3 - 360's so a 1080? Right...
  • 2 1
 I mean I only counted 3!
  • 1 0
 The video doesn't catch it all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8UQG3i5Go
  • 2 0
 @BiNARYBiKE: thank you so much
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.
.
WOW
  • 1 0
 He (Nicholi) should take the "spin doctor" a.k.a. over the 80's band and the Nick Naylor character on the "Thank You For Smoking" movie.

Awesome
Beer
  • 1 0
 @ fatfingur theres a whole legion of rogatkin bashers here especially my bestfriend max.
  • 3 1
 2nd comment and I'm gonna say holy Suzi Quattro
  • 2 0
 And here I am afraid to straight back flip.
  • 3 5
 Yeah it's a 1080 front flip and his signature 'twister' that he's been doing for ages is a 720 frontflip, not a 1080. On a side note, yet to see a regular 1080 done on mountain bike yet. Should be possible given rogatkin is doing a 1080 spin and a front flip in one now!
  • 8 9
 Watch it again all you video game watching bug eyed retards, there is one thousand one hundred and forty degrees of rotation in there and if you don't see it go eat a bowl of dicks, either that or you aren't drunk enough.
  • 2 0
 I think you mean one thousand four hundred forty...
  • 2 0
 If anyone else does a clean 1080 then we can disect his run
  • 1 0
 exactly...everyone is trying to step it up...love the progression...something new every couple of months instead of every couple of years...unique stuff being pulled out nowadays, from everyone
  • 2 1
 Hey Nicho go snowboarding...
  • 1 0
 Name That Trick:

Best one gets a cookie,
  • 2 1
 The Houston (hurricane)
  • 6 0
 @adrennan: So... Harvey?
  • 1 2
 Four Retard
  • 2 0
 Nicholi batshitspin
  • 2 0
 Nicholai Rockthatspin.
  • 1 0
 I like the cork seven but two of them ftw
  • 4 3
 How???
  • 2 0
 Jet Propulsion.
  • 4 7
 This hurts my brain.. only a 1080? comparing this to skiing or snowboarding (2 sports that have been doing 1080 and 1440s for over a decade), this would be called a 1080.. which i thought rogatkin has already done?
  • 1 0
 My head is spinning.
  • 1 1
 WICKID trick, matched by a Koolaid smile hehehe.
  • 1 0
 WOW
  • 4 6
 Good for him he did it ! I still can't care less . Style is better then PlayStation tricks . It's good he proved it's doable what can i say
  • 1 1
 He ought to call that trick Four Retard
  • 1 0
 guess we all know who's knob you're on
  • 7 8
 He only spins three times. Thats a 1080
  • 9 1
 i had to watch like 20 times and compare it with his 1080, but he sneaks one more spin in (body still straight) before he dunks his head for the 4th cashrolly spin. but since hes somewhat inverted @ this point hes not facing forward on the completion of the third rotation hes facing the ground

edit: i take it back im watching again and now i cant see it. this is f*cking my whole day up

double edit: see 4 spins again, theres blood coming out of my ears
  • 3 0
 Watch again, it's legit.
  • 5 2
 Watch the YouTube link. Definitely four spins. Definitely a 1440. Definitely Rogatkin going massive!
  • 3 5
 Figure skating
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