Video: First Look at the 2015 Specialized Demo

Jul 29, 2014 at 7:18
by Red Bull Bike  
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At the UCI World Cup Series – downhill mountain bike racing's most elite level – speed is the name of the game. New equipment is tested regularly, in hopes that mechanical advantage will gain time on the racetrack. The terrain of the seven race championship is diverse – from the season-opening lung-buster sprint through the South African jungle forest to the most recent round held on the treacherously steep Austrian Alps of Leogang. Next up, the series heads to Canada for the legendary Mont Sainte Anne racecourse.

This weekend at MSA, two-time UCI World Cup Series champion Aaron Gwin will compete on an all-new, 200 millimetre-travel bike: The 2015 Specialized S-Works Demo.

“I've been on the bike for about a month now," says Gwin, about the completely redesigned World Cup bike he and team-mate Troy Brosnan will be debuting at Mont Sainte Anne this weekend. "We got on it right after the National Champs because we wanted to get on it right away for comparison to the old bike on the same track."


2015 Specialized Demo


Gwin and Brosnan first got a chance to throw a leg over the new 27.5"-wheeled bike immediately following the 2014 USA Cycling Gravity MTB National Championships in Angel Fire, New Mexico, and found it to be a familiar, but faster Demo.
bigquotesIt's a really playful bike, but it's a race bike through and through
"The thing I noticed right away was just how fast it was," says Aaron Gwin, "It’s a really playful bike, but it’s a race bike through and through." Gwin believes this bike "reacts quicker than any bike he's ridden before."

Utilising a radically-new asymmetrical design – producing the visually-absent seat tube on the non-drive-side – the radically-new approach to carbon frame construction is intended to lower the centre of gravity and keep the frame as stiff as it has always been. You can plant it and change directions really quick because of how your feet sit on the bike. "It accelerates fast because of the [lack of] weight and the stiffness." Gwin says, "You can plant it and change directions really quick because of how your feet sit on the bike... there are not a lot of pivots so when you put force into the bike it reacts straight away."

2015 Specialized Demo shock


One of the interesting points Gwin makes about the new Demo is how the single-sided seat tube allows for easy in-and-out access to the rear shock. "The switch was really easy and setting up suspension was easy," says Gwin, "It's something non-racers might not have to deal with very often. But anyone who races seriously knows how often you need to service, set up and remove your shocks. The access on the Demo makes it so easy, plus I just think it looks rad."

A floating seatstay keeps the pedalling and braking forces separate, while the standard size 12 x 135 millimetre axle has been engineered to stiffen the rear end with a square-design. However, Gwin says any stiffness gained in the rear end has not added weight. "It's really light in the rear end, which allows the bike to stay agile," he says, "I really like a stiff bike so it's great to not have to sacrifice any rigidity for the added agility."

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561 Comments

  • + 516
 This is gonna cost more than a new car, I guarantee it.
  • + 165
 more like a new house.
  • + 114
 I thought the bike on top was supposed to be worth more then the car....
  • + 104
 13.500$, go home spec you are drunk
  • + 37
 what im interested in is the frame weight... Specialized sacrificed the old frame and threw all of it away, new front-rear and suspension design... yet Trek sticked to their session basically 6 years old design now and the frame is 2.24kg. The s-works Demo 8 frame from 14 was around 3.6kg. Really interested in the weight of this... also will it be available in a sensible alu version, but as the seatstay is "righty" design i pressume not Frown good job overall Specialized, really fresh and loving the details... more pictures and details!!!
  • - 30
flag Lilshredman (Jul 29, 2014 at 7:51) (Below Threshold)
 If I was even possibly able to afford it, can I get a little Kashima on it?
  • - 19
flag nmpearson (Jul 29, 2014 at 7:54) (Below Threshold)
 It'll still sell out bc specialized is the best(sarcasm). Crazy looking bike though. kinda like a devinci wilson with half the seat tube missing
  • + 23
 probably a glimpse of what their enduro will be doing in the future as well. interesting.
  • - 6
flag mister800 (Jul 29, 2014 at 8:13) (Below Threshold)
 you know this bike prolly costs a little Asian kid about $100 bucks to make, yet Specialized is selling it for 13k. lol
  • - 9
flag fullbug (Jul 29, 2014 at 8:16) (Below Threshold)
 i just want that ohlins available stateside yesterday. this bike was probably why they signed gwin to start with.
  • + 18
 @ribo88
I think and someone please correct me if I am wrong, that they had to change the design because their patent for the rear end was up. I heard it floating around on another forum. So makes sense to just revamp the entire bike.

I love this bike, and having it open on one side means super easy access to tune and change springs and shocks. Smile no more fiddling around. I also like how clean the lines are, it not only looks super aero (may or may not be functional) but it makes it easy to clean and keep clean.
  • + 4
 @slidways

that might be the case but i am still very interested in the overall weight and the price of the frameset and is there going to be an alu version, i really dont mind them to do a whole new frame, as they have basically redesigned the original demo totally and improved all of it, but the Demo was and is the first frame that comes to mind when i hear the word : reliability. its a benchmark for every downhiller for a decade in my opinion, always loved them from day one Smile
  • + 112
 Total Cost Breakdown:

Roval Carbon DH Wheelset=$2,245.95
XX1 DH Groupset= $1,395.75
Rock Shox Boxxer Solo Air World Cup= $1,934.54
FACT Rear Shock= $1,256.75
Seatpost, Stem, Saddle, Tires=$573.28
Carbon Front Triangle With Floating Seat Tube=$1,248.52
Carbon Rear End With Mounting Hardwear and Square 135x12mm Axle=$987.43
Red Paint using UV resistant overcoat=$322.55
Specialized Decals Under UV resistant overcoat= $4,399.50
Total=$14,364.27
  • + 32
 Pretty sure thats not how costs actually break down.

whats a FACT rear shock?
  • + 66
 jesus called , he wants his bike back
  • + 20
 Isn't FACT the carbon used, got nothing to do with the shock?
  • + 26
 I'm surprised the world hasn't gone ape shit yet with this news. Maybe everyone still sleeping. In 3....2.....1.... 1 Million old Demo 8's on sale on Pinkbike!
  • + 27
 Yeah its the carbon, the shock is öhlins.

silly people and their crazy price breakdowns
  • - 6
flag rejean (Jul 29, 2014 at 9:06) (Below Threshold)
 Please take one of my kidneys, i have two.
  • + 11
 You also have to take into account that they aren't paying retail for their parts. So it might cost that average person 14k to build a bike like that but specialized will be paying a fraction of that. Big companies want to have their product on what is potentially the fastest bike in the world right now.
  • + 36
 specialized decals for 4,399.50 sound about right, you forgot the couple thousand more for the some sort of swat technology they will without a doubt install in there somewhere and call it a revolution of the mountain bike industry. good for them for finally getting rid of that third useless link, it only took them 11 years.
  • + 1
 I have been told by a very reliable source at specialized that this frame alone is going cost about 6000.
  • - 4
flag scottrallye (Jul 29, 2014 at 9:26) (Below Threshold)
 Wow, a Horst-link FSR bike?! How cutting edge! Looks pretty much like a 1999 Intense M1...Pfffft, you can only polish a turd so many times before it's time to come up with a better turd.
  • + 5
 fstatic1.mtb-news.de/img/photos/1/2/7/0/6/2/_/medium/673716320_254684ff79.jpg?0

Sleeker, newer, carbon, bigger wheels. Same suspension design.
  • + 52
 I can't wait to buy one, mount it to the top of my Audi, and drive around town!
  • + 49
 BigHit is that you?
  • - 34
flag wakaba (Jul 29, 2014 at 9:49) (Below Threshold)
 @scottrallye: Agree. Nothing "special". Giving up 50% stiffness by deleting a structural element - is stupid. The old bike was a bit of a pig, more parkbike than dh. This one looks enduro park DJ. Not a plow bike. I expect this bike not being accessible to average riders - they will be slow.
  • - 4
flag Donodh (Jul 29, 2014 at 9:59) (Below Threshold)
 2009 Iron Horse Kumicho R
  • + 11
 @scott & wakaba- sure it might have been around for a while, but it still has numerous benefits over a simple single pivot and many linkage driven/assisted single pivots. One of the things that Specialized does very well is carbon, especially from their McLaren takeaways. If this design actually reduced the strength or stability of the frame they would not have done it.
  • - 1
 I'm not knocking the frame materials, shock, or any other of the new technologies they are employing in this... it's all cutting edge, and I'm sure, awesome. I just don't understand sticking with a very old suspension design that I'm not a big fan of. I'm not a fan, because I've owned numerous Specialized bikes (including a 2010 Demo) and just don't like the ride compared to any VPP or DW-Link bike.
  • - 4
flag Kona-Rider1 (Jul 29, 2014 at 10:08) (Below Threshold)
 I just dont get one thing, the chainstay pivot is around the BB right? But then they put a Horst Link on it which takes all the advantages of having the pivot there away, but still having the negatives?!
  • + 10
 Eh?

I bet the leverage rate is great. Low anti-squat and good small bump with the low Horst/main pivot position.

Prefect for those who like supple bikes rather than harsh small linked bikes.
  • + 13
 Sorry but I gotta call it - looks like a demo
  • + 31
 Finally, they ditched that stupid swingarm inside a swingarm technology.. Now hate on this comment, considering the majority of pinkibikers own a demo, TLD d3, and Avid Code brakes.
  • - 4
flag gnralized (Jul 29, 2014 at 10:28) (Below Threshold)
 So, Giant called, they want their 2003 NRS chainstays back...
And I already found a spyshot of the 2017 enduro frame (disclaimer : this is sarcastic)...
www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2012-Skyde-Titanium-full-susp-mtb-engine-lab.jpg
  • - 13
flag caste1200 (Jul 29, 2014 at 10:52) (Below Threshold)
 it looks like a session!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 11
 @gnralized, you do know that Giant licensed that design from Specialized and for at least a couple of years had to say "by Specialized" on the chainstay?
  • - 5
flag Red881 (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:12) (Below Threshold)
 Dang...$6k frame only for a v10/iron horse yakuza love child? No thank you!!!
  • - 45
flag wakaba (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:12) (Below Threshold)
 The old Demo failed to impress always. This one is underwhelming. Definitely not a dh-bike more of a flickable parkbike with an unnecessary flabby and crashy feeling rear end. Carbon is still no go. fits the spec prduct world but not mine.
  • - 25
flag Quesadilla34 (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:18) (Below Threshold)
 Im with u wabaka, i never loved the look, and it wasn't impressive riding wise, now this one comes our and looks like a devinci wilson and santa cruz v10 had an ugly baby with half of a demo linkage
  • - 21
flag wakaba (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:21) (Below Threshold)
 Nailed itWink .
  • + 63
 wakaba, your ridiculous non-experience based comments never cease do they? Calling a bike you have never ridden, which has been developed with the input of some of the best DH racers on the planet, "not a dh bike.. with an unnecessary flabby & crashy rear end". You do win the award for "Best Competitive Cyclist on the Internet" though.
  • + 15
 oh yeah because we have all tried it. guys no one knows what kind of bike it is, but i think that the largest company in biking knows how to build a bike.
  • - 3
 I think they lost the unique look that made the demo stand out and gave it a price that is totally out of hand..
  • + 13
 i agree with the price being way out of hand, but what did you expect with a carbon bike from a big company, if you think they lost the unique look is lost... might want to get your eyes checked. Wink
  • + 26
 Wakaba, the previous Demo is leading the World Cup overall. How do you explain that?

How do you think the leverage rate could be improved to fix that "crashy" rear end.

You guys base everything on looks and haven't the slightest clue about kinematics etc.

Again, I bet this bike works very well. Not that I give two shits about DH bikes these days.
  • - 42
flag wakaba (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:33) (Below Threshold)
 @ka-brap: The last one was exactly that....not a dh bike. What the best dh-bikers do has exactly what to do with what you and I do? The largest bike company? So you love your phone company too? Riiight...
  • + 13
 i do love my phone company, they provide a valuable service that i desire and they do it well. and your kidding yourself if you think its not a dh bike.
  • + 10
 A non-DH bike that wins World Cups and World Championships...? I wouldn't call any brand's proven World Cup DH bike "not a DH bike" but I guess you have a different idea of what a DH bike is than I do. As for my phone, I'm not sure what that has to do here but then again, your argumentation is about as flawed as it can get.
  • + 4
 We shouldn't be bagging on a bike that we have never ridden, it might be a lot better than the last demo but who knows. Everyone is saying it's garbage when they haven't even tried it.
  • + 10
 First off...the only people who actually pay full-retail for these things have more money than they know what to do with. You'll be able to pick one up at your Spec dealer for much less if you don't act like a douche to the shop.
Secondly, it's an S-Works bike, do you expect it to be cheap? Don't click on the link if you are going to cry about the price.

These models are used to push the technology (and sexiness) envelope for the brand. Similar to car racing the R&D that goes into these Ferrari's trickle down to our more reasonably priced (but still awesome) WRX Sti's.
  • + 9
 Every time a new carbon dh bike comes out I say thats stupid no one is going to buy that its way to expensive but sure enough there all over the place when they come out . I dont understand how people can afford these bikes
  • - 16
flag wakaba (Jul 29, 2014 at 12:39) (Below Threshold)
 @kabrap: Absolutely. Most, not all, wc tracks are enduro tracks. They used to be way gnarlier. Your analysis is flawed and the spec is not a plow because its intended use is not dh. Look at a turner, m9, 951 etc. Entirely different beasts.
  • + 6
 Biker3335, this is your conscience speaking: that's a pretty clear sign that you and everyone else should probably just stop saying that.
  • + 0
 C4mtb. My eyes are fine..the overall look of the bike looks like other bikes that are already on the market..
  • + 5
 the fossil that i am, i can say the rear does have slight shades of lawwill original lines from '97-'99...fishers, yetis...
  • + 2
 Prioritizing spending. Also the oil industry haha.
  • + 2
 £7000 is retail so I have been told by specialized UK
  • + 7
 So wakaba youre saying that most, if not all, "dh" bikes developed in the last +\-5 years are not true dh bikes? Even though they go downhill fast, which is what a downhill bike is supposed to do?
  • + 4
 How much weight did they save by having a single-sided seat tube? Couldn't it be made lighter by having both sides, and less material in each side?
  • + 6
 Think about shock position and access to the shock. Weight isn't the objective.
  • + 4
 Where'd you get such a good deal on the decals? You must work at a local bike shop!
  • - 13
flag amirazemi (Jul 29, 2014 at 15:03) (Below Threshold)
 UGLY as hit, no flow no nothing seriously ugly i don't know why people are afraid to say that. Come one everyone say it out loud ITS UGLY.
  • + 3
 and you ride a hercules yuma?! please, tell me more.
  • - 2
 A turd.
  • + 5
 I like that it has almost no graphics on it. Clean and mysterious look.
  • + 0
 Since when did the looks of the bike become more important to how well it rides?
  • - 4
flag amirazemi (Jul 29, 2014 at 15:48) (Below Threshold)
 Mine is ugly too! :-)
  • + 1
 Its not done, not even close Smile

www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f19/2015-specialized-demo-enduro-evo-268995

This is the 2015 Demo range, this one is the S-Works only Smile
  • + 7
 @wakaba The 951 is a play bike.. The m9 sure is made for rock gardens but the 951 is on the more playful side. Stop acting like you know everything there is to downhill bikss
  • + 4
 Would like to see you enduro your way down fort william
  • + 1
 Work hard save your money.....
  • - 6
flag wakaba (Jul 29, 2014 at 16:37) (Below Threshold)
 @tremotley: The 951 is pretty much the same bike as m9. Different target.
  • + 5
 you're ugly.
  • + 5
 @wakaba uh no the bikes handle completely differently.
  • + 2
 slidways....they had a patent only on the HORST link (the link below the rear axle). this bike still has the HORST link....this is just an overdue redesign.
  • + 0
 The FSR patent is up. (horst link) That does not mean Spesh can't build fsr bikes. It just means everyone else can without paying a royalty. The fact that it has a horst link means nothing on how the bikes rides. You can engineer any leverage ratio or whatever anti-squat you want just the same as a DW.
The thing that interested me was the complicated bottom bracket area with the concentric pivot. I think it is good in theory but when you get your factory in Taiwan to
produce these it will be a recipe for frame miss-alignment or failure.
  • + 4
 RLEnglish^, I'm not disagreeing here, but I am curious as to why it would cause potential alignment problems as opposed to using a seperate junction from the bb?
There's definitely benefits to this design choice, it lowers the CG further, keeps clear of the chain without a heavy drop down yoke, while providing a very stiff pivot point without needing to build an extra junction.
  • + 1
 I thought the same thing regarding the BB. It's a pressfit 30 so think how that works? It must have a sleeve for the BB shell that sits on bearings in the frame with the chainstays using a pinch bolt to tighten onto the shell. I don't really get how lateral preload will be adjusted. Maybe it won't be required but RLEnglish said, tolerances will be tight.
  • + 2
 i'm happy with my $600 bike.. don't care about this..
  • + 2
 It's cool but I agree @indobiker
  • + 6
 12 seconds!!!! spotted the ohlins inverted fork!!!!
  • - 1
 It wasn't that long ago that Evil had a cargo container full of misaligned bikes from a offshore manufacturer. I think the design is good and can be made properly but I question the fact that the Taiwan manufacturers will be able to pull it off. The bikes I've seen like this have been aluminum which can be machined to tolerance or even adjusted during the heat treatment process. With carbon it has to be bang on the first time.
  • + 4
 Yes, wakaba...because if there were bikes that were leagues better than the "parkbike" demo that's been WC proven (and a f*ckton of racers and joeys) then people would run taped up frames like the days of intense. Oh wait, that hasn't been happening.

And 50% stiffness gone? More like the single sided bar on the front triangle *probably* has a much thicker carbon layup, and is just as stiff as having two thinner structures. Ya know, cause that's what the "no go" carbon frames do nowadays...
  • + 0
 Looks like a Devinci Wilson
  • - 1
 @slidways
Specialized has many patents. The original patent has run out but they have patents on stuff like the axle distance from the 2nd pivot location that will keep them going for a long time in the US.
  • + 3
 thanks guys good to know.

About the rear end if you want to compare it to another design this new linkage is probably closer to a the lawwill than anything else. of course its still a four-bar but for comparison sakes its going to be the closest comparison.
And ill +1 to whoever said just because two design use the same type of linkage does not mean they cant be drastically different.
  • + 2
 @Tannerstolt I was excited about the split second of fork as well. I could feel it coming, just didn't know when.
  • - 2
 So how is a young racer who can make the most out of such a rig able to afford this beast? Oh wait I suppose the 'rents can sell the house.
  • + 1
 @Spark, why is a young racer looking to buy a World Cup level S-Works bike to begin with? On that note, there will be aluminum versions of the current frame design in 650b.
  • + 2
 @spark24
If a young rider is fast enough to the point where they actually need this bike to go faster they would already be a wc rider or have a sponsorship so they will get this rig cheap. Put troy on the production alloy demo and he will probably still finish within a few seconds of his time. Anyone who can take advantage of this bike is more than likely going to be sponsored by them.

All the others can get plenty fast with the standard frame. I cant believe we still put so much emphasis on the top kit, when most people are not even riding as fast as wc riders were back in 2007 with those out dated bikes.
  • - 4
flag Spark24 (Jul 30, 2014 at 5:14) (Below Threshold)
 I will put in another way.... The guys who will buy the $10 000+ models wont be able to make the most of it like a more energetic younger racer would... Which kinda sucks... So why market such expensive toys when only a handful of people can actually afford it... Why was the alu version not shown here with lower end spec?... The top comment here is an immediately an indication that most people see this as something completely out of their league... When it should really be something they want to look at as their next bike.... but hey Ferrari sells cars and makes money to sponsor an F1 team so what do I know.
  • + 3
 I think once you put "S-Works" in front of any bike model, the aforementioned top comment becomes relevant Wink But as I mentioned before (which has since been deleted) this bike is still $7,000 cheaper than their top end road bike. People will buy it and (like all S-Works models) they will sell out of them because there are buyers for them, just as you said Ferrari sells enough cars to fund an F1 team.
  • + 2
 Short answer - this bike is aimed at sponsored riders winning WC and local races, and more importantly, selling cheaper models to punters who can afford the Sworks but may be able to buy the ali version which may or may not ride as well as the CF superbike... Flagships are marketing tools.
  • + 7
 I'm sick of the "those who can afford it aren't fast enough to ride it" and "only some fat accountant could afford that and hes just buying it for vanity" bullcrap. Since when is it a sin to study hard in college, work hard at your career, and be responsible? Since when does putting in a hard days work at the office mean you are slow on the trail? Lets say this ends up costing $10k US. Even if you are young, in college or just starting out your career, it really isn't that hard to afford. Most of us just spend our money elsewhere, which is probably more prudent anyways. Also, I know guys in their 30s and 40s who can out shred most of us anyday, and their carbon Mojos/Enduros are not wasted on them.
  • + 3
 Mines a nomad and your right,not all us old guys are all the gear and no idea. Wink
  • + 1
 I like it when guys in the UK and US moan about prices. you should come to the third world where we are at nearly SAR 11 to the $. The Sworks bikes come in at well over R100k these days. An SC Nomad frame is around R35K - a complete bike also around R100k depending on build. This is why I ride a Giant.
  • + 2
 agreed, minty1. although, the older i get the better i was. hehe ah yes, headshot. wants and needs always refereed by reality.
  • + 2
 @headshot boet I love it when they say a $2000 bike is a budget bike.... what North Americans and Europeans earn vs what we, earn R 20 000 is a lot of money... The cost of luxury goods vs salaries over here is much more expensive. but i do agree on the whole tentpole effect of the high bikes filtering their influence down to lower end models
  • + 2
 @spark24 well lucky you don't live in spain... if i want this demo i must spend 2 years working and saving all the money, no joke.. and thinking that the people have to pay the bills and a lot of more things, = at you never will have this bike,

but the worst it's if you have work, you are really lucky,,,
  • + 3
 Spark & Taz: only the spoiled rich kids would think that a US$2,000 bike is a budget bike!!! I used to live in Turkey and consistently got crushed by kids on $300 bikes! It's not the bike, despite what these rich kids think, only 0.01% of riders would be faster on this bike than a $5,000 Dh bike!

I feel for the guys in Spain, most beautiful country in the world and a super fukced up economy. I hope you are still able to play outside with your time off!
  • + 1
 thats true, but its not about the bike making you a fast rider (thats up to the rider) its about enjoying something that has been immaculately designed and looks gorgeous.
  • + 2
 I would buy just the decals for $4,399.50 to put them in my bedroom's window.... .... he
  • + 0
 Shock is about 800 not 1200
  • + 1
 One of the many bikes I cant afford to buy.
  • + 1
 If you can't afford it, then don't buy it! 2 cents
  • + 1
 ^^ Correct - look the big S will market this in places that will have the the $$ to buy it and the biggest market share - its simple economics (it doesnt make it right but it makes financial business sense), probably the US, Europe and probably / maybe China. The amount of R&D that will of gone into this bike will of cost a lot of money and they will therefore want to charge a lot back - plus if its Gwinning on the WC circuit then they will probably sell more to the people who can afford it or that will take out the finance to buy one etc. There is however an alternative to this if you want a superbike for less money then buy a YT, but some people will want to stay with the big S (whatever their reason) and will no doubt hand over the $$ for this
  • + 1
 I juat said that
  • + 1
 @RLenglish

Taiwan is the leading producer of quality bicycles, but not all plants produce the best, you get what you pay for in TW Wink

Evil had problems because of their poor design (some serious flaws) and use of a sub standard fabrication plant with poor QC - the plant itself warned Evil about the issues before going to production.

The carbon fibre plant Specialised uses should have few issues with the news Demo, and Specialised always pay for good QC on their mid to high end bikes; its their entry level bikes that have been very poor recently especially the hybrids and kids bikes
  • + 1
 @fullbug, the shape is very much representative of bikes past, the linkage really changed it up though
  • + 172
 I've never ridden it, so it must be stupid.
  • + 47
 Haha just like that Switch Infinity link from Yeti people are ragging on.
  • + 15
 About time they got rid of some damn links and pivots , long overdue
  • + 3
 Nice price breakdown with MSRP. That would be the case if you bought everything seperately at full price
  • - 8
flag dirrrtjump (Jul 29, 2014 at 9:14) (Below Threshold)
 There are the same amount of pivots (except the 2 for the yoke of the shock) and links on the new Demo, dude.
  • + 15
 Same except for 2 eh ... makes sense
  • + 1
 Haha, same except two... tell that to someone who likes single pivot bikes...
  • + 7
 Ops, my English sucks. I got it wrong with bearings and pivots - Sorry! But amount of pivots are the same.
  • + 1
 yeah, simplifying the rear will save them weight. The demo's rear end always seemed over-complicated to me.
  • + 3
 Why? It's a simple design like this one. If you add a second chainstay to the chainstay and mount the shock there, it would be pretty exact the same! Smile
  • + 6
 You definately need 2 sides to a seat tube, otherwise how are you supposed to support all your weight when your sitting on it in the parking lot???
  • + 9
 i come for the pics and vids but i stay for the comments. i'd seriously buy a tshirt w/your first comment, unrooted. it is on point.
  • + 3
 exactly the same except the parts that are completely different. So you take Spaghetti Bolognese take away the noodles, don't mix the the tomato with the meat but put it on top, put all that inside a bun and you have a Hamburger... hence Hamburger and Spaghetti are exactly the same thing.
  • + 3
 Hence FSR and FSR are exactly the same thing.
  • + 1
 what even is FSR
  • + 3
 It's best kept as an acronym because spelling it out is super 1980s- Future Shock Rear
  • + 4
 The Future is now, so is it.. PSR? Present Shock Rear?
  • - 2
 what does that actually mean? its still a rear triangle like very other full sus bike. why isnt every bike FSR
  • + 2
 inception
  • + 2
 FSR is a multi-pivot linkage where the chainstay pivot is mounted below and in front of the rear axle. This supposedly provides numerous rider benefits such as isolating braking forces and pedalling forces from the suspension.
  • + 1
 And it was originally called Horst Link, and only reffers to the pivot on the chainstays beeing before the rear wheel dropouts. Specialized bought the pattent and now call it FSR...
  • + 1
 @jaha222. Because specialized own the rights to cycling lol
  • + 101
 Cannondale called, they want their Lefty Shock back.
  • + 58
 I like it, finally a bike that does not look the same as every other bike made. +1 for the ingenuity and creativity.
  • + 25
 agree!! well the demo never did look like other bike anyway Beer
  • + 5
 I like it, but that open side looks interesting, therefore the other side is beeefed up some
  • - 4
flag PHeller (Jul 29, 2014 at 7:55) (Below Threshold)
 Interesting that they display the more "conventional" side of the bike.
  • + 21
 The right side is almost always what's displayed because the drivetrain is visible.
  • + 7
 pretty usual to display the drive train side of the bike
  • + 3
 Sure, but in this case its the less interesting side of the bike.
  • + 21
 it is I agree, but they do have a close-up. I think it's very cool to be able to remove the shock so easily. I do have to admit though, I think the old Demo is sexier.
  • + 8
 Actually, its a righty, not a lefty,...
  • - 13
flag scary1 (Jul 29, 2014 at 10:31) (Below Threshold)
 It looks like a wilson
  • + 2
 agreed with DARKSTAR
  • + 2
 No one seemed to care about the new Fury being asymmetric. And it's been winning plenty.
  • + 2
 I'm going to get me one and put a lefty fork on it. Yeee Haw
  • + 1
 lol, I can buy a new 2015 yz250f for the price this is going to be in New Zealand. However this bike is aimed the high end competitor not they weekend rider like myself so I don't see that much wrong the price. Plus the technology on this will be on cheaper bike in a few years time.
  • + 63
 "We've been dedicated to downhill racing for almost two decades.." Well, except for that one decade we were all into freeride and completely abandoned racing, but whatev...
  • + 14
 That's exactly what I thought. "Yeah, except from 2000 until we signed Sam Hill in '09, so like ten seasons when the only poor bastards racing our heavy, tall, steep freeride bike were our friends that we hooked up like Curtis and Kyle Straight, but other than that we've been dedicated to downhill racing for two decades."
  • + 56
 On a scale of 1-10 how drunk was the guy who wrote this article?
  • + 54
 Kayne West at the VMAs drunk
  • + 8
 The secret to marketing is to say everything twice so people remember it. The writer makes sure to say everything and put every quote twice, that way we can remember it. But they didn't really say anything memorable so I've forgotten it all already. Where are my keys dammit!
  • + 6
 when the hell did specialized start using Red Bull to put out their press releases?

the best part for me was the huge quotes "It's a really playful bike, but it's a race bike through and through" and then the very next line is "The thing I noticed right away was just how fast it was," says Aaron Gwin, "It’s a really playful bike, but it’s a race bike through and through."

what the f*ck?
  • + 53
 Well done specialized. It looks refined and sexy as hell
  • + 0
 wtf cmon people, are u hipnotyzed by mtb industry or what? xD this shit is damn ugly...
  • + 5
 Agreed! And I "AM NOT" a Specialized fan. But so far, it looks like they've done good.
  • - 6
flag jaha222 (Jul 29, 2014 at 8:34) (Below Threshold)
 it looks ugly as fuck, and im a specialized fan but just nope with this
  • - 5
flag Chillyzi (Jul 29, 2014 at 9:08) (Below Threshold)
 I'm a Specialized fan, but this one look awful.
  • + 7
 i think it looks better with a lot less shit in the rear end. and lighter and faster... ya i pick this one
  • + 0
 surely the could have just removed and then strengethernd that extra rear bit
  • + 4
 I am not a specialized fan but this looks rad... finally that weird off balanced look is gone and the rear looks as light as the front always did
  • - 2
 I liked the 2014 demo waaay more. This one is like an ugly Wilson! People just seem to like everything specialized does... Open your eyes!
  • + 39
 12x135? Is this a joke? Now we gotta go rebuy those old-technology wheelsets?
  • + 6
 lol
  • + 11
 this constant jumping around with axle sizes is starting to get real annoying.
  • + 5
 FYI "current" S-Works Carbon Demo 8 uses the same spacing.
  • + 10
 im stoked on the 135. keeps it stiff and narrow in the rear end. you hit your chainstays less. puts your derailluer in a little bit to make it harder rip it off.
  • + 3
 Surely that is going to make the already weaker 27.5 more so? Strange
  • + 1
 no doubt they went this route due to the chainstays being so low, which is necessary to achieve a more rearward axle path
  • + 1
 Yep demo's have always had a 135mm rear end option for years when they werent exclusively 135mm.
  • - 1
 Specialized claimed, in a sam hill special edition demo 8 press release about 2 years ago IIRC, that they go with 135mmx12mm because it was about just as stiff as 142mm but the narrower frame is much less prone to strike rocks when it came to navigating tight rocky sections. I guess 142mm makes more sense for stiffness on the thin tubed trailbike frames... or its was just the usual marketing smoke and mirrors. Just be happy you're not stuck with a 2010 demo running a virtually non-existing 135x10 axle like I am.
  • + 1
 Yes, what a joke. Along with the 27.2mm seatpost!!
  • + 3
 @PLC 135x10 is still fairly common. i see them on dj frames all the time.
  • + 1
 If you want to get rid of that 2010 frame since it has lost its worth, just let me know.
  • + 1
 @jumpman I don't know, I shopped around briefly and it seemed most go to hub manufacturers weren't offering the hubs anymore, let alone finding a compatible DH wheelset. So far my hubs are still good but glad to hear I can probably find some more of those hubs if they break.

@cougar797 No point in selling if its now worthless right? Seriously though, I like it a lot and the frame will most ride it to its death.
  • + 1
 Good for you, if it does get "worthless" to you though I would happily take the unneeded clutter out of your garage.
  • + 31
 Lets be clear, "you can plant it and change directions really quickly because of how your feet sit on the bike."-in case you missed that, twice.
  • + 20
 So, does it work if your feet aren't on the pedals?
  • + 9
 settle down, cedric
  • + 1
 It's a really playful bike, but it's a race bike through and through"The thing I noticed right away was just how fast it was," says Aaron Gwin, "It’s a really playful bike, but it’s a race bike through and through." Gwin believes this bike "reacts quicker than any bike he's ridden before."

What's up with all the repetitive sentences? Ill proof read for swag and discounts!
  • + 2
 i do lol i always said that will be a 2015 demo but no one believed hahah
  • + 1
 I emember seeing that picture and i actually thought that there was not a big difference between the old bike and the prototype they were testing....new bike looks sick!!!
  • + 20
 hrrrngg... excuse me, I need to go and change my underwear for an unrelated reason.
  • + 19
 The sale of "old" Demos is about to skyrocket!
  • + 4
 As everyone tries to purchase the last good looking Demos that will exist. This thing is god awful!
  • + 20
 its a carbon big hit
  • + 9
 dream sometimes come true... Was just hoping for 27'5 front and 26' rear
  • + 2
 That's not allowed in World Cups
  • + 3
 ^really?
  • + 19
 that looks...... WAY nicer than a trek session.
  • + 18
 At least it has the correct amount of seatstays this time around....
  • + 13
 Wouldn't it make more sense to put the seattube on the non-drive-side?
It shouldn't matter for the pedalling forces, as you are standing up anyway, but the bike is already heavier on the right side, because of the drive train.
Not sure if any of what I said matters or makes sense, I'ld just like to know why they put it on that side.
  • + 12
 Nope, that would mean you would have to put the shock closer to the drivetrain. You could easily run out of space. If the stiffness is a problem, you just lengthen the support and add stiffness that way. This isn't the only asymmetrical bike out there, quite a few have shock moved more towards the non-dirve-side, the Devinci Wilson is one of them for example.

I think this is quite an ingenious design from the manufacturing point of view. If oyu have a shock traveling 'through' one of the tubes, you need a tunnel. And i imagine making a tunnel out of carbon must be a pain in the ass (you need to make a tube, then put an insert into the mold, make the other tube and then close the mold off). This way you don't have a tunnel Wink

I might be wrong though.
  • + 3
 Pretty sure the seat tube will be smack in the middle. But I guess you mean the bit of carbon only on one side? I can only imagine with the weight being all so central on a bike anyway this wouldn't make much of a difference at all??
  • + 5
 @Gweggy
Also just to add to Primoz's point there, the drive side area of the BB undergoes more torsional strain than the non-drive side so it's the smart choice placing it on the drive side, as if you put the column on the non drive side you would have to increase it's size/design/etc. in incorporate greater stiffness to resist the bending around the drive area of the BB
  • + 3
 He's saying the shock isn't mounted straight inline with the bike, it's offset to the non-drive side, in order to make room for the drivetrain.
  • + 2
 Shock being set off to the non drive side is the standard in dirt bikes and can be found on some street-motorcycles... just saying...
  • + 1
 plus it would suck if you had an open frame, only for a chain and crankset & pedals to get in the way.
  • + 1
 But then the standard side photo from the drive side would look better if you could see the open frame and the whole shock. Marketing trumps engineering for MTBs...
  • + 13
 when they started the development they wanted to make a better bike than before - WOW! what a bullshit marketing video. the bike does not look bad.
  • + 17
 That's expected though. What differentiates most of the bike on the market is 90% marketing BS and about 10% actual performance. Truth is all these high end bikes are very good and it just comes down to ride preference. Gwin is not going to be good because of this new bike. He's going to be good because he is awesome, just like he was on trek, and just like he was on a Yeti before that. Gee is awesome on his new GT Fury, but he was also awesome on the old outdated Fury, just as he was on the Commencal. Same Hill is awesome one every bike he rides. Point being that its the riders not the bikes. There is nothing revolutionary that any one company is doing over the others.
  • + 4
 @sino428 I wish everyone would think that way
  • + 1
 If everyone thought that way... I wonder if elite level racing would exist? Maybe DH racing would turn into a TDF style event where sponsorship isn't just bike related and large multi national companies plug heaps of money into the sport to advertise themselves.
  • + 1
 It "IS" the rider, but it's also the bike. The bike "allows" the rider to do what he/she wants. A bad bike with quirky handling means the rider has to be more aware of it and how to ride around it's shortcomings.

Gee is a good example. Gee has always been a fast rider, but I don't think he won once on the old GT Fury. Was that Gee or the bike holding Gee back? Or was that when Aaron Gwin came on song in '11?

Whatever the case, riders are always looking for an advantage via design as well as other areas.
  • + 1
 Marc won on the old Fury in Val di Sole - on of the hardest tracks on the world cup. There a good and better bikes, but at the end it comes down to rider preferences. I like the bike, but I dont like the shitty marketing blabla in every release - a faster bike - the rider is fast, not the bike. The bike can fit or not, but its not fast.
  • + 1
 Where did I say that it was only the rider? That's why I wrote 90% the rider, and 10% the bike because the bike does matter some. And yes Gee never "won" anything in terms of WC's on the old Fury but I believe he finished on the podium every race that year, including 2nd at World Champs. The bike didn't seem to be holding him back. His not winning a race was probably just some randomness and the fact that Gwin was an unstoppable beast that year.
  • + 2
 I think it's fair to say that at elite level it all the bikes are going to be awesome. They all have high end components and frames with suspension set up how they like it. No one bike is better than the other at that level. Team support and the riders are different though. It would be another case all together if a rider was on a 2010 bike and components and another on a 2015 bike. With the exception of different suspension performance and geometry, I don't understand how there are so many bike frame and component manufacturers... The companies somehow convince consumers that the differences mean they don't have to compete on a price level...
  • + 1
 Please ignore my English in the last post... iPhone + late = sloppy.
  • + 1
 Well sorry to all if my tone seemed harsh or confrontational. It's hard to be "matter-of-fact" on the net sometimes.

@sino428: I didn't mean to say you said 100%. That's why I said, "It 'IS' the rider, but it's also the bike". As a matter of fact, my first paragraph really pushes how important the rider is. There are lots of riders, drivers, and even fighter pilots that talk about having to perform in a certain manner based on the design and performance of the equipment. History is full of examples that prove this.

@sino428, highsider, ZeGermans: I believe completely that it's the rider that overcomes "all" conditions in the end. Some of those conditions have nothing to do with the course or the weather, but instead equipment. Besides, it's clear riders are always looking for things that help and making changes, just as it's clear that the frame makers are always looking for advantages as well. Better design simply allows the rider to do his job better. That's it! But good bike + shit rider will never equal victory.

Lastly, if people (riders and manufacturers together) weren't consistently working on new ideas and designs, we would all still be on DH machines with 70 degree head angles and cable operated brakes.

@ZeGermans: Your English is pretty good. :-)
  • + 1
 @BKDR - I get what you are saying. Of course all this R&D and innovation pushes the sport along. My only point was that the innovations happen in small doses, not the leaps and bounds that the marketing people would have you believe each time a company releases a new bike. Each one of these press releases or videos is designed to make the consumer believe that, this bike, and only this bike will let them ride up to their full potential. That everything other than this new bike is an inferior product. I'm just saying that most of it is complete BS. There may be some new technology or some design improvements that might be nice, but my only point is that there isn't anything revolutionary here. Its just a nice shiny new version of what was already out there with half a seat tube.
  • + 13
 did anyone notice the ohlins fork at min 1:39?? hehe
  • + 3
 Nice eyes man.
  • + 13
 Needs more chainstays
  • + 10
 f*ck the bike, what shoes is Gwinn wearing?
  • + 1
 holy shit those are sweet I want to know
  • + 1
 They're spec's debut clipless shoes if I'm not mistaken
  • + 2
 No- he has a pro model shoe with Giro
  • + 6
 So am I to understand that the phrase "producing the visually-absent seat tube on the non-drive side" mean it's there, but I can't see it? Red Bull (or whoever wrote this), please stop inserting words where they aren't necessary.
  • + 8
 definitely a cleaner design than the previous. looks hot...
  • + 7
 i just don't know what to say now my jaw dropped down .well done specialized
  • + 5
 I liked the old one much more. 26 wheels and an aluminium version sounds a lot better to me. Also with these looks I would much rather have the looks of a session. Just my opinion though
  • + 8
 Wow that looks like shit.
  • + 6
 So I'm getting that it's a stiff and light bike that changes direction really fast and your feet go on the pedals.
  • + 6
 I think pinkbike will be needing to do a Give-away of 250,000 of these bikes....
  • - 1
 Sweet, 3 bikes!!!
  • + 5
 next year they will add some curves to the tubing... that happens all the time
  • + 2
 That was more a "first look at racers on the new Specialized Demo". I wonder why almost every review has a video these days? Is it really necessary? I'm interested in the product, not what people are doing with it. More pictures and specs please, less videos.
  • + 6
 I knew they're fuck it up eventually
  • + 2
 And they did, its ugly as hell! People only say its good looking because it has a Specialized logo on that headtube...
  • + 4
 Looks like a big red praying mantis about to make a meal out of a trek or santa cruz.... the red and black boxxers would look WAY hotter on MY bike though
  • + 1
 Ahem... so much for eating the santa cruz
  • + 5
 i love how many times fsr is printed on it just incase you forget
  • + 4
 So...how long is that lower chainstay going to last? It drops below the rotor even. Rocks are going to destroy it.
  • + 3
 good point
  • + 1
 sag?
  • + 1
 Rear derailluers seem to survive.
  • + 1
 Yep,first thought is fark that is one ugly mother hucker! I do like the one sided shock seat stay setup, as a racer and mechanic, I appreciate any little detail that makes race wrenching easier faster without sacrificing bike performance, so I take my hat off to big S for that, and it does look rad, that one peace, rest bit of a mix bag for me, rear looks old Ellsworth like especially in the HL drop. Gwin and Bros should use the Ohlins shock, it does look fast. ill give it that, lets see what it can do at MSA. Id still not change it for my Mondraker Summun though, the baddest, meanest bike on the planet, lighter, faster and looks meaner, and the feet are in the right place to make changes really quick its lighting fast and playful, but still a racers racer.
  • + 1
 3 Tags then I am out:
Will it blend?
Can Specialized bring a limited Red Bull/TLD designed frame onnthe market?
and last but not least do I always qualify first with that one because of that enormous price?

(I own a '11 Demo)
  • + 1
 Every bike is a work of art. It's a masterpiece to some and a disaster to others. It's a matter of perspective, but specialized has been in this game for a long time now so I think almost all of us can agree that they know what they are doing and if you don't like it, don't buy it. It's that simple.
  • + 1
 The linkage on this bike has more in common with the very unFSR-like Lawwill link than the Horst-link that Specialized was able to patent (now expired) in the USA. Flex can be an issue with Lawwill links - the Horst-link was a definite improvement in this regard, replacing the separate drive and non-drive side pieces of the floating link to which the rear axle is anchored with a single seatstay component. Actually, I expect all of the significant improvements that have been achieved with this new bike (better pedaling and lighter rear end) could have also been achieved via a redesign more in keeping with the existing Demo, and that would not have lead to any structural compromises.
  • + 1
 Dunno About the whole frame but we do like the Seat tube. Thats sexy. Almost a shame they chainged the Seat stay's. But had to go probably. Still looks good. If only god would give us that DAMN ohlins fork. PLEAZEEEE. been waiting for 3 years.....
  • + 2
 Pause at 01:40.
  • + 1
 inverted
  • + 5
 This bike is why I have a Status.
  • + 3
 ...well she ain't a looker. Kind of reminds me of a concept car that never actually makes it into production, but some how did this time .
  • + 1
 The bike is beautiful don't get me wrong!! I just see everybody flock to this company (which is a great company) when I seem to go for Knolly, YT and Devinci. But to each his own....... However, the bike is down right amazing, I can only imagine where DH is headed in the next 10 years with having that one side of the frame open now.
  • + 2
 Pinkbike should of put a left side picture up first or at least a full picture instead of a closeup. Show that side because you know that's where all the discussion is going to be about.
  • + 1
 Absoshagginglutely beatiful. I just hope they won't release a new Enduro29 with similar design any soon, because I would need to buy it. The only poinr I could make about engineering here, is that if I was to buy that bike, I'd buy at least 3 sets of bearings straight away. Those are going to work really hard, but well design is an art of compromise and only people who believe politicians can believe that there are solutions ticking all the boxes.
  • + 0
 The E29 will always have a bottle/cage option so that low hock position will never be used.
  • + 2
 Oh that's a bummer, I wanted it EXACTLY like this one, I hope they will listen. ...or maybe not
  • + 1
 27.5" Enduro on the way to satisfy your needs in a 'we were never going to do that wheel size' package.
  • + 1
 Hey Waki - guessing your bearing comment has to do with the fact that there is no bracing between the seatstays. In your opinion do you think flex will be in control given the whole rear end is carbon and the swing link extends deep into the wheel radius? Also, hear lots of people going off on the concentric bb. Curious to hear your take on the ups/downs of this?
  • + 1
 Hey mrpark - no deeper thought, pure specualtion. I'd say it has to do with lack of brace, I can only assume that if the link is made of carbon there will be no issues as it should be very stiff. At the same time all elements look super beefy, and axles may be so think that the problem is minimized. But as I said, there is no way to tick all the boxes, when there is a win, there is always a trade off in regard to the way the object should be used Smile You just want to make sure that you make as much win where you want it to be Big Grin at least this is how we do it when designing buildings and this is how my dads friends do when they design sport aeroplanes and sailplanes. Art of compromise. Concentric BB? I have no opinion at all. I have no idea about suspension kinematics and as far as mechanical solution goes, as long as it is well sealed, there should be no probs aye? Thank you for tickling my vanity gland.
  • + 1
 The next gen of SJ's and Enduro's won't have seat stay bridges to allow stupid short rear centres.
  • + 1
 Yes jclnv - we all heard that short rear centres are stupid and slow Gwin down. Just like short stems are better. Oh, the Highroller is a great tyre if you can lean it. What else... bigger wheels roll faster?
  • + 1
 Pretty much.
  • + 1
 I think WAKI's response to mrpark is fine - there are always design/engineering compromises, try to take the ones that get you to where you want to be. Still, I think there was an acknowledgement of a particular compromise, a certain "lack of brace" with the new design. What perplexes me is why the compromise was made in this case at all. I can't see anything in the new design, including that lighter rear end, that couldn't have been achieved by way of a careful redesign that preserved the structural advantages of the existing design. And, I don't feel encouraged by the knowledge that very expensive carbon will probably be the only material stiff enough to implement this new design without flex.
  • + 1
 What brace are we asking about?
  • + 1
 There is no singular seatstay component (or floating link) that any longer loops from one axle dropout and one side of the wheel around to the other side of the wheel and the other dropout. That classic unified two-sided seatstay component in the new design gets decomposed into two completely separate parts sitting on either side of the wheel. That singular looped structure makes a lot of sense in itself and the bracing part that joins both arms of the seatstay (commonly but not always quite close to the tyre) also provides a strong point to locate or support a pivot to a rocker link that benefits from the strength of the brace. The stiffness of the rear end comes courtesy of good design but all that structure is missing from the new design. In particular, the point at which the rear pivot of the large rocker link joins the drive and non drive side floating links is unbraced. As a consequence the stiffness of the rear end will now depend a lot more on the materials used for the linkage parts and the quality and tight tolerances of the pivot hardware.
  • + 1
 The lower the seatstay angle and shorter the rear centre the more clearance problems arise with the seatstay brace and seat tube. I'm sure the lack of seatstay brace will have little effect. Especially when you consider the shock linkage connects to such a shortened seatstay.
  • + 1
 Yes you can eliminate the seatstay brace. And this can be done without structural compromise - the Pivot Mach 6 and Phoenix Carbon are exemplary in this regard. Still, it seems Troy Bronsnan has been racing a 'current generation' 27.5in Demo with a short rear-centre that hasn't suffered the clearance problems that you refer to. So, if the challenge is to come up with a light DH bike with 27.5in geometry and (somewhat) improved pedaling I would want to ask what was wrong with the existing Demo that made it unsuitable as raw material for the new design? And the answer seems to be, "nothing really, Specialized just thought it was time for a change." That's alright of course as are compromises to achieve design objectives. But, I am suggesting that the lack of brace in the new Demo is not a sensible compromise to achieve design objectives but rather poor design that follows from a desire to get something new to market quickly. Will one of Specialized competitors see a marketing opportunity here? Personally, I would much rather an improved current generation Demo without the structural compromises than the one soon to be available from Specialized.
  • + 5
 UGLY AS SHIT!
  • + 3
 Im a big fan of demo8 but this ugly thing is no demo8. There is absolutely no flow to this bike anymore and they messed with that classic rear suspension, It looks like shit for sure, Im very disappointed Specialized...
  • + 3
 Bro, I agree with u!!!!
  • + 2
 man i was looking the whole comment's for the ugly comment. Cut that bike ain't good looking probably is very fast and all but ain't good looking imagine if this was the old demo and the old demo would come up now. That would be better muuch better.
  • + 3
 Are there any other motorcyclists out there thinking what I am thinking?

i.imgur.com/Gk92VTW.png
  • + 1
 But the Ducati has a higher shock position than most other bikes just so they can squeeze the exhaust below the swing arm. Aesthetics. Al least the Specialized is functional.
  • + 1
 The question is will they make the new demo in ALU also or are they going for carbon all the way and keep making the old demo for those who are not millioners?

Cant wait to see how it rides and what the price tag is!
  • + 4
 Honestly, I like the look of the opd one better.
  • + 4
 too bad you can't get a 200mm lefty...
  • + 2
 This may be one of the best looking bikes I've ever seen...Never owned a spec and I'm not the biggest fan of the company, but I cant deny the fact they make great bikes.
  • + 3
 overall I like it, although the single sided seat tube aesthetically I don't like very much.
  • + 0
 I only like the right profile of the bike. In fact it is only half of a frame. So they are giving you less for more money. Genius. Lets here more about how much faster it is. You just don't need to be so strong to ride it at all. Train less, spend more and go faster. No bike goes at all without a rider. So do we want to listen to pros' opinions about how much faster the bike is, or they became? On the other hand, in fact the very right hand side, the bike looks amazing. Props for the designer. Pitty they didn't want to make the rest of it on the other side. So this is poster for me only. Right profile only.
  • + 2
 Cheers to spesh for a fresh looking rig and some crazy innovation, but that bike looks really tall and the reach looks really short.
  • + 1
 nice, some more quality stuff to flaunt at buyers while the shops get the worst possible parts for us to buy. keep the good stuff for the champs, we have no right to enjoy the sports, we are "the mob".
  • + 1
 I will be drooling all over this bike at Windham! Can't wait to see it up close! Going to be so sick! Anyone know if Gwin will run the Ohlins rear shock or stay on Fox rear shock.
  • + 2
 Huh. Those chainstay pivots look like '90s era Specialized, or Norco. never thought I'd see a Specialized with those again.
  • + 3
 The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the picture was: A red new Lapierre DH.
  • + 0
 Glad they moved away from that older botched linkage that just didn't look right. I'm not exactly a fan of asymmetrical bikes, or things for that matter. Plus they don't make it an XL. Thanks again specialized for limiting your market.
  • - 3
 Wow! That is identical to a status linkage!
  • + 5
 How is a concentric BB pivot identical to the Status?
  • + 1
 Hey Specialized...until you start making your Demo 8 in an XL, you are still CRAP. Every other bike company makes an XL...WTF is your major malfunction?? Get your shit together!
  • + 2
 According to the specs given on VitalMTB, they will make an XL. Size run will be M, L, XL and not what Pinkbike has posted here.
  • + 2
 And people should actually look at the reach numbers not the M, L or XL letters. The current L Demo 8 is pretty much exactly as long as my XL V10c and the new version gets another 9mm to boot
  • - 1
 It is good to know they will be making an XL, and that Pinkbike failed to mention that.

@johan, I do look at the numbers moron. I am 6'6" tall... A whole hell of a lot taller than you, boy. I know the numbers. I have read them many times, as well as test rode models. The CURRENT Demo is TOO SMALL. It is NOT comparable to any other XL on the market. Now go ride your bike for small people.
  • + 1
 Sure you are taller, couldnt care less and wouldnt not trade my height for yours ever. I do feel for you being that tall since I am 6' and feel my XL V10 is on the small side. So if you know your numbers you should know that the current L Demo 8 is about the largest current production frame out there, it is pretty dead on as my XL V10 and bigger by almost 30mm to a XL Undead, 20mm more than a XL DHR, 15mm more than a Myst and pretty dead on as a XL Trek 9.9. And for this S-works they have added 9mm to which a works headset can add 7mm more. Although most companies seem to be stepping up their reach on next years offerings. Want a big bike look at the XL Nicolai Ion 20, it sports a 474 reach.
  • + 4
 Looks like they took a page from WAKI's design!
  • + 5
 looks like a Big Hit...
  • + 5
 I'll keep my old demo
  • + 4
 What is the current finance rate for bikes?
  • + 1
 For me? 47.7%
  • + 0
 i like it. it's unique appearing and all the shock adjustments should be easily reached/adjusted because of the one-sided seat-tube strut. i wonder about the pricing. and, they should include a derailleur guard/bumpstop with that horst pivot location like what Lapierre does with their Spicy/Zesty bikes.
  • + 4
 Don't like it, but I'm sure it'll grow on me!
  • + 5
 12x135 rear end?
  • + 5
 seems like a step backward?
  • + 5
 They should have paid the rights to use Trek's 148x12 rear, and Giant's overdrive 2, and Cannondale's lefty fork, then it would be New and Improved !
  • + 0
 justincs, don't forget to add new BB standard and seatpost diameter to the list!

And to the point: I recall seeing 135mm axle used because it adds more room to your feet. Not much, but still it was the stated reason.
  • + 2
 yeah 135 definetly gives good amount of room for ur feet when compared to 150
  • + 0
 yeah, but on a 150 rear end, you feet are farther apart... and im not sure about you, but i feel much more stable with that little xtra width haulin down a hill. i think all this jumping around has to do with the hub and dish or something. read it a few times around the new
  • + 1
 I can definitely see a 135 being stiffer than a 150. I have the 3 different hub (135, 142, 150) sizes on different bikes, but thankfully that's the only part that's not interchangeable between them. On a completely different note, it makes it harder for bike thieves to match up parts on bikes (not that they don't try!)
  • + 1
 It's only got a 7 speed cassette so it doesn't need that extra space to keep the wheel properly dished.
  • + 2
 150mm is a little stiffer. But if you have an already inherently stiff frame (which you should, relying on the hub for stiffness isnt great designing) its not an issue. 135mm just provides more foot room and makes it easier to squeeze between rocks. Everyone has worked on a rockgarden at a race before and wished their bike could "squeeze through that crack / hole right there".
  • + 4
 Looks as good as a dogs breakfast!
  • + 5
 12x135 rear axle??
  • + 2
 The irony in specialized initially saying they think 27.5 is a waste of time yet they've had riders on this since last year....
  • + 1
 Is that literal irony, situational irony, or not irony at all?
  • + 3
 what the fuck you on about, you weren't even born two decades ago !
  • + 1
 I love the looks of this bike/frame, simple yet beautiful... Love the colors as well, if I had the money probably this would be my choice of DH bike.
  • - 1
 Really cool looking bike. But the suspension design is not as cutting edge as you think. It's still FSR the suspension design they have been using since the late 90's. And I will never buy any specialized brand product, they are an evil company. Don't sue small companies for naming a bike somewhat similar to yours, or sue for using the same angle on the seat stay. Grow up specialized.
  • + 2
 that rear end looks pretty familiar... ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb9940875/p4pb9940875.jpg
  • + 3
 Wow, 2001 called, they want their Intense M1 back
  • + 4
 This is an insult to the Intense M1!
The Intense M1 still looks great today.
In 14 years this thing will be seen as an abomination, and will be laughed at in all the "Ugliest Bike" forum threads.
  • + 2
 Surprised they didn't do 142+ rear end... They've got it on almost all of their mtb. Why not on the Demo?
  • + 1
 anyone who says that this bike is ugly i'm generally worried about because next time they go out to bike they might get in a crash due to lack of eye sight.
  • + 2
 would like to see integrated fork bumpers.. particularly problematic on previous years esp with fox 40.
  • + 3
 Aaron Gwin's bike? But this one has tires.
  • + 1
 what a bitchfest, the bike looks great. Looks like they took some cues from norco on the exagerated horst link and a more rearward axle path
  • + 2
 Anyone know, why is the front bottom pivot around BB? Its "normal" with single pivot, but 4-bar?
  • + 2
 I'd rather buy a Kona Supreme Operator and still have like 6 grand to play with, but that's just me.
  • + 2
 Finally they made it simple, without all them pivoting arms... well it's weird too, kind of a "RIGHTY" frame huh? :-)
  • + 3
 To spoilt kids everywhere....
  • + 3
 12 seconds and 1:40 in Brad is riding the Öhlins prototype fork
  • + 1
 Good to see things moving forward, bb pivot for swinging arm, not new but makes sense, but DH bikes should have a sealed drive?
  • + 2
 Sort of looks like someone crossbred a pre-2009 turner dhr and a Morpheus carbon DH...
  • + 2
 Any word on geometry? Will gwin have his own custom longer rear end? any adjustability?
  • + 1
 www.vitalmtb.com/product/feature/First-Look-Radical-New-2015-Specialized-S-Works-Demo-Carbon,271 - specs here and mention of adjustable geo although not apparent how
  • + 1
 This should be the top comment.
  • + 2
 Two things that people care about:
1, Looks
2, Winning races on it
You might as well skip the marketing bullshit.
  • + 2
 "Selling 2014 demo cuz I just dont seem to have time to ride it anymore" x1000000 on buy sell right now
  • + 1
 Words can not simplify how much I want this bike but it doesn't say anything about the frame having adjustment wheel options as I'm a 26er fan and not a 650b fan
  • + 1
 Anybody else notice at 2:53 the red rear shock? Overall i really like the bike. I think it is really cool how easy it would be to work on/ change the shock.
  • + 3
 41 comments in 12 mins........jeeez
  • + 3
 Am I the only one who thinks the regular demo 8 looks way better..
  • + 3
 thats one extremely good looking bike.....wow
  • + 1
 The first thing I thought when I saw this was, hmm, pretty close to a Lawill rear end like on the old Yeti's and Shwins... That Horst link is almost a Lawill link lol.
  • + 1
 @slidways you may be right about the patent. Design patents only last 14 as far as I'm concerned, might be different in other countries though.
  • + 3
 I think the bike will cost not one but both my kidneys+liver
  • + 1
 I was never a massive fan of the rear end of the old demo, looked too complicated, glad they've changed it, new bike looks sick. Pity I can't afford 1
  • + 0
 Looking into buying a new stumpjumper, but they don't make a 26 inch version anymore. And now this is 27.5. Any suggestions for a trail bike like the stumpy, but with 26 inch wheels?
  • + 3
 Pressure is on for some results at MSA!
  • + 3
 How long is the chain stay though? haha.
  • + 3
 Great deal on a used 2014 model. any takers?
  • + 1
 So glad they ditched the old rear triangle design. This is probably one of the prettiest looking bikes I have seen released lately.
  • + 1
 Looks like a Yakuza Kumicho/Airborne Taka with FSR. Muhf*ckas with comments like that is definitely off the cheeseburgers dogg, know what I'm sayin'
  • + 1
 I think it kinda looks like an old spesh big hit...same sort of shape.looking awesome though!!!! Specially with the ohlins shock too.
  • - 1
 For the money that Specialized & Trek charge for their bikes you could easily and for less money own a more grass roots / passion driven bike from the guys at Intense. ( Ok, so they have german engineered carbon bikes made in asia now ) But they still care hugely about the fun side of the sport, their bikes are beautiful and you can see the craftsmanship in every frame, especially the aluminum bikes. Plus they are just as full of new technology as the big boys. Seriously, go take a look at an Intense bike.
  • + 2
 lower pivot's concentric with the cranks! fuhh maybe i'l get used to the look. maybe.
  • + 2
 Anyone happen to know the song/artist in the background during Gwin's part? Thanks in advance....
  • + 0
 wow...regardless of how this thing performs - it is beautiful (that asymmetrical seat tube element is craze-amaze!). And this is coming from a proponent of steel skinny tubes.
  • + 1
 Ive seen brosnan and gwin riding these up at ss and daaaaaaayum they look fine, its cool to see these guys shredding at silverstar rather than whis on a new bike.
  • + 3
 Remember not to crash on your non drive side
  • + 1
 me parese de mente el marco pero ese shok esta muy vacano pero con una cicla de esas es mas mejor competir coo ese marco Big Grin ;D
  • + 1
 looks cool and probubly will ride great but will cost far to much for most normall people
  • + 1
 COME ON IT'S A FRICKEN Carbon status, oh yeh that's where I've it b4. U think, Really?
  • + 2
 Anybody know the song playing when Gwin comes in?
  • + 1
 Really and my the only one that sees it, it's a freaking carbon status!!!!!!! Hello
  • + 1
 i thought if they were to upgrade the demo, they would add an extra swingarm... not remove one Wink
  • + 0
 DH Bikes are the one bike you don't need to spend a lot of $$$ on. Get a bike with a good fork and rear shock and go shred!
  • + 1
 Anyway I think they forgot to remove a 0 at the end. Or maybe it is a retail price to buy 10 bikes.
  • + 2
 the Chainguid is moving when you go thorough the travel, that is awesome
  • + 1
 I didn't read through all the comments but is the rear pivot lower and more forward on the 2015?
  • + 2
 Now all it needs is a lefty out front to match the rear!
  • + 2
 It looks smooth as buuuuudder
  • + 1
 NOW WAY, bad design and really UGLY like IBIS!!! Go back with the old design.
  • + 1
 that bike make people talking a lot. judging by the number of comment, the new specialized dh rig is gonna be very popular.
  • + 1
 cant help but notice the rear new fsr link looks just like what norco did with the norco aurum A.R.T.
  • + 1
 ok ill be the first to say what everyone is thinking and ill prob get bashed because of it. this bike looks terrible
  • + 2
 Doubt they could make it out of aluminium with the Asymmetrical seat tube.
  • + 2
 Gwin is really a honest man!

He didn't say; " it's beautiful " ...
  • + 2
 F&ck it. I'll take one, and I don't find the looks off putting at all.
  • + 2
 So... Nobody is going to notice that this is a 650B DH bike, huh?
  • + 2
 Looks like a V10 and a Wilson made a baby!
  • + 1
 Finally got rid of the 3 seat/chain stays, always though it was unnecessary weight.

Blackbox Boxxer lefty is next?
  • + 1
 Pretty funny to see every haters on each specialized's post and dislikes on positives comments, just jealousy
  • + 1
 Is the new frame design make it easier to get the Ohlins rear shock out for repairs?
  • + 1
 Can someone explain to my why a this bike is running 135mm dropouts, versus most dh bikes running 150mm?
  • + 1
 For the same reason the "old" S-Works Carbon Demo did- improved clearance in rock gardens and other tight spots that catch rotors and derailleurs
  • + 1
 Pretty sure troy looks like hes just riding his normal bike not the new one....
  • + 1
 Actually, in a way, I'm stoked, because when these get launched, this years will go on sale!!!!!
  • + 2
 Oh noo, internal routing wires
  • + 1
 Gwin needs to brush up on his counting: it has the same amount of pivots as the old Demo.
  • + 1
 Am i the only one that thinks its ugly? Im sold on how it rides and it looks fast but i don't think it looks too good.
  • + 2
 You lost me at 135 x 12mm rear end. Sam Hill would not approve.
  • + 1
 Sam rode a 135mm rear end demo (by choice). You can squeeze between big rocks a lil easier and it gives a little more foot room.
  • + 1
 Sam requested a 150mm rear end spacing on his proto demo in 2010. Spesh later released a 2011 production model with a 150mm spacing.

factoryjackson.com/2010/12/23/bike-check-sam-hills-2011-demo-8/#.U9gTwqOVHSg
  • + 1
 Ohh, I thought he kept running the 150mm S-Works. Thanks for the correction.
  • + 2
 Having two kidney's is greedy of me anyway...Time to sell up
  • + 2
 If Master Chief rode DH, this would be his BR.
  • + 2
 Or is it Cortana? both give me nasty thoughts...
  • + 1
 I sense left calves ripped the fuck off against the shock in crashes... but looks sexy as hell.
  • + 2
 What I want to know is when the new Ohlins fork is being released.
  • + 3
 nope.
  • + 1
 Anyone else notice the tire in the rear (Slaughter) was a 650b X 2.5! Saweeet.
  • + 2
 Aaron Gwin looks freaking fast on that trail he's riding.
  • + 1
 I've never been that much in the Demo's, but I got to say this bike looks really cool!
  • + 1
 Once A DEMO, always a DEMO!!!! BUt it does looks better than the 10+ year old, old design. Wink Almost there Big S!!!
  • + 1
 Dam, gwin was flyin on that trl an bike, wish coulda seen that in person!!!
  • - 5
flag SunSetter (Jul 29, 2014 at 8:51) (Below Threshold)
 yes, gwin always flies when riding his home trails on a demo or uci on a session Wink . Lets not forget how bad it performed when switched from trek to spec. Gwin is a great rider and it deserves the kind of money that spec is trowing at him but that's all. The demo is a bike that's first intended for comercial purposes and then for winning world cups.
  • + 4
 Which must be the reason why Trek is doing so well in the World Cup still... oh wait
  • + 2
 Work of art. Love it. Specialized...keep pushing those boundaries!
  • + 1
 Nobody is bitching about the wheel size? I don't understand! This is a well designed bike from what I can see.
  • + 1
 Right! I thought I was on some other website
  • + 3
 uck. all i have to say
  • + 2
 I guess this Demo will only ever be a demo bike for most of.....£££ $$$
  • + 3
 12x135??
  • + 2
 this is hot. missing the double link though..demo evolved?
  • + 2
 The shock looks nice. :-P
  • + 2
 That video was so well done, and the bike looks amazing. Nice job team!
  • + 0
 I don't care to much about the weight of the bike , i just care more about the weight of my wallet. ill stick to my old specialized demo 8 still gets the job done just fine.
  • + 1
 really?? i just bought a 2014 demo and now i have 6 months until i get a new one again...God Dammit!!
  • - 1
 The same for me Frown
  • + 6
 how about you give me a good deal on that '14? =)
  • - 1
 Cause it will definately make a difference for a rider as good as you estica and Swissbeast. . .
  • + 1
 I don't change bikes to be good rider or better then anyone.. Honastly i suck Wink
But I do change bikes every year cuz I always like to have a recent model and try the new one and because I can change bikes when I want to.. If you don't like it go and sit over there in a corner and cry or go work for it
  • + 0
 Estica:

Being that you are Canadian I'm guessing you can afford this bike because your line of work involves destroying some part of Canada's environment. . .at least you countries economy is growing.
  • + 4
 Comme on it was a joke. Im not going to buy a new bike next year. Im a student. It's just a little annoying that i just bought a bike and in more or less six months there is this new Demo. Does "estica" really have a big influence on his country ? I don't think so.. So don't say something about people, just because they are black, white, asian, Canadian... We are all humans like you Wink (By the way sorry for my bad english)
  • + 3
 ^those are albertans you're refering to, our texans. Oh and they're letting the chinese come in with cheap labour and rights to our resources, so they wont prosper off this for long. f*cking Idiots.
  • + 2
 But the corporations/government will. The public is just too stupid to work out it's a race to the bottom.
  • + 4
 An American griefing anybody about destroying any environment is preeeetty funny.......
  • + 2
 I am not Canadian but I do live in canada and yes I do agree with you in that .. Something is very wrong with this ppl no offence
  • + 2
 you can just see who is one off the top polluting countries ahahah
and the vehicles that Americans mostly use you can see that they are very eco friendly,then some of them buy a prius just to say they care ahahah
estica, if rode of those cars on my(and your) country you would have to live under the bridge
  • + 1
 that's right tiago but in here it takes 1 euro for 4.5l of gas,much cheaper then in Portugal,so they don't care about Eco cars.. bring the dam V8's and all that gas drinkers up hahaha you don't see diesel cars as much in Europe, only pick ups and even that they are 60% gas not diesel Wink
  • + 1
 The point is new demo 8 is hideous...
  • + 1
 the new rearend on the old demo 8 frame would be nice
  • - 2
 people from specialized are so dumb.. how bike can be fastest? xD I have the same speed on demo and on 2009 glory, hill is faster on nukeproof than on demo wheres the sense xD
  • + 1
 Hill has World Cup and World Championship wins on a Demo, but nothing on a Nukeproof. How is he faster on a Nukeproof?
  • + 1
 yes and he has the worst results on demo tooWink the point is that bike doesnt matters. Your speed depends on ur riding abilities and fitness;p bike can suit u better or less but how can it be faster? It depends on u, how fast it will be
  • + 2
 I very much agree with you that the rider counts for the vast majority of the success, but we'd be mistaken to assume the bike doesn't matter at all. Easiest way to show that a bike does matter is simply pick the wrong bike, like a trail bike, and compare lap times. That's what these guys do- compare and time different set ups of the same bike and then they race the fastest set up that was tested and timed. Same thing happens in ski racing.
  • + 2
 #iamnotspecialized
  • + 2
 "No sir I dont like it"
  • + 1
 lol big bear shots with gwin
  • + 1
 Anyone notice Troy is on the old Demo?
  • + 1
 There's much more to life than just Specialized, Trek and Giant.
  • + 1
 How come red bull have released it and not specialized?
  • + 2
 welp, good bye $15,000
  • + 2
 rockets are dangerours
  • + 1
 soooo they didn't just mash a 26 and a 29er together to make this one
  • + 1
 If the rumors are true it'll supposedly be just over $13k..
  • + 1
 want more info on the kona process 167
  • + 1
 looks like your moto pants will get caught in the spring
  • - 2
 It... has... straight.... tubes!!! :-O - Talk about going against the trend!

If I had the money I'd take up downhilling again just so I could buy one of these, absolutely gorgeous!
  • + 1
 Well there goes all of my money!
  • + 1
 I like my 2013 demo but this looks awfully
  • + 0
 There are two great days in a person's life - the day we are born and the day I get my hands on the new Demo! FTW
  • + 1
 Awesome frame! I love it....
  • + 1
 I might sell everything I own for this
  • + 1
 Black'n'Yellow... stings like a bee! I love that frame!
  • + 1
 Its red tho.......... .
  • + 2
 watch the video.........
  • + 1
 Thinking about buying this instead of college.
  • + 1
 i cant be taking out a mortgage for this..
  • + 1
 simsalonaut: Pause at 01:40

jeah.... maybe a inverted öhlins fork
  • + 1
 hahaha, "it doesn't look like any other bike"
  • + 1
 Better than the TR-500???
  • + 1
 It looks like old Yakuza Kumicho
  • + 1
 Anybody know the name of the song while Gwin is riding?
  • + 2
 Ugly... Very very ugly.
  • + 1
 My liver is fried! i.imgur.com/BEtfjQf.gif
  • + 1
 i hope its gonna come in Alu frame..
  • + 0
 It won't. It also won't come in 26".
Where is all this "choice" I have been hearing about?
  • + 1
 haha,ohwell, im not gonna buy one then.. and if i would it will be tooo fucking expensive... i can build a driftcar with that kind of money..
  • + 1
 Btw, how do u know that. ? i cant find anything that states what you are saying. Razz
  • + 2
 The choice is the hundreds of other bikes that are available. It's not rocket surgery.
  • + 1
 no its not.. but why would i pay 13K for a bike.. ? hey, winter is coming, all bikes are gonna be cheap as hell!
  • + 1
 Where is this 13K number coming from???? I'm not calling BS, I just don't see it posted anywhere in any website the press releases or in their comments from a credible source, ie: someone who works in a shop and has a 2015 msrp price.

$3K over the 13 and 14 team replicas is a little hard to believe, even for Spesh. I can't see them pushing this much more than a G over their old price... Unless they are gonna hang carbon wheels on it.
  • + 1
 Well. if you scroll throw the comments, they are some people that is saying that price.. i Cant find any info about it besides here on Pinkbike. But anyway. the sworks is allready expensive..
  • + 1
 Not arguing that they aren't pricy, especially when they come with Alu wheels vs. a fully loaded V10 with Enve's, but before everyone freaks out on the price, let's confirm it first.
  • + 1
 rear looks like in status
  • + 1
 No specialized kool aid for me thanks!
  • + 1
 Meh. Not impressed by specialized. Looks cool though.
  • + 1
 Looks like laser blaster from sci-fi movies.
  • + 1
 So, where is the next YT industries dealer?
  • + 1
 Let take off half the frame and double the price
  • + 1
 ....Looks sexy i'd ride it.
  • + 1
 wanna see Sam Hill on this Spesh-Ducati dreambike!
  • + 1
 Learn about the color scheme !!!!
  • + 1
 That chain stay is low. This something new?
  • + 1
 no one asked about "where are the six stays" yet?Smile
  • + 1
 I cant understand why Specialized don't want to slacken the head angle.
  • + 1
 2011-2014 demo 8 is the best... Finally, I decide to buy a v10
  • + 1
 looks like a trek
  • + 1
 BRRRAAAAAAAAPPPPPP
  • + 1
 Specialized Lefty shock?
  • + 1
 In a word: wow!
  • + 1
 How much will it weigh?
  • + 1
 i want status Carbon
  • + 1
 Best looking Bike !
  • + 0
 we can't tell for new frame now but the paint job is killer!!
  • + 1
 sorry, but it is fugly
  • + 1
 13.500$, go home
  • + 0
 IMHO, it's at a glance it's bit like 2015 GT Sanction with 200mm travel.
  • + 0
 Looks like a New Ducati but in a bike version
  • + 1
 I wouldn't compare this turd to a Ducati.
  • + 1
 lame
  • + 1
 omg
  • - 1
 That's it, it's official. Specialized's design department is lazier than Porsche's.
  • + 2
 but let me guess you like pushrod v8's.....
  • + 1
 As a matter of fact, I do....But that's just because I like V8s generally. OHC is where it's at.
  • + 0
 Huh looks like spec took a page from cannondale
  • + 0
 I say again again and again THIS IS UGLY like IBIS!!!
  • + 1
 Is this real?
  • + 0
 its reminds me of the morpheus dh prototype
  • - 1
 One more reason to stick to my 2011 fluo yellow Demo. This thing looks crapppyy
  • + 1
 #notenduro
  • + 0
 I think Gwin misses his Trek!
  • - 1
 I'm trippin balls. Holy shit. Looks sick. Futuristic
  • - 3
 sick as in it looks like a puddle of chunder? correct it is sick
  • - 2
 One less chainstay than the current Demo. It's about time. The bike actually looks good for the first time ever.
  • + 0
 FUUUUUTUUURRRE! !!!
  • + 0
 What a beauty!
  • - 1
 I need to win the lottery
  • + 0
 Ugly bike Frown
  • - 1
 fuck you
  • - 1
 looks amazing and inovativ
  • - 1
 who will buy 2014 demo´s now?? available jan2015...
  • + 0
 looks flexy
  • - 1
 ". . .plus I just think it looks rad."
- me too
  • - 3
 About time they did away with that old clumsy rear end...
  • - 3
 Carbon Demo? MOre like a Carbon Status judging by the new linkage
  • - 3
 well it has something in common with the old one. they are both fuck ugly
  • - 2
 Tidy back end. Cool
  • - 2
 spunk-tastic
  • - 2
 Awesome!
  • - 1
 looking good!
  • + 1
 yeah... look very expensive too..
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