Gravity Logic Built, US East Coast Bike Parks

Jan 5, 2017 at 12:02
by Robert Rebholz  
America’s East Coast is in the midst of a bike park renaissance right now. In addition to terrific established East Coast bike parks, three resorts have entered into partnerships with the world-renowned trail builders of Gravity Logic.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

Windham Mountain, Thunder Mountain at Berkshire East, and Killington have all brought in Gravity Logic to either build a bike park from scratch or help to tweak their existing mountain bike programs. To give you a bit of background, Gravity Logic is a consortium of expert builders and resort planners most famous for building and managing the mountain bike Mecca of Whistler Bike Park in British Columbia. The organization not only builds and develops trails for clients but also offers support for the business aspect of resort management.

I met two of the founding members, Dave Kelly and Tom Prochazka, on my first riding trip to Whistler in 2002. I found the trails at the Whistler Bike Park awesome because anyone could go there, have fun and progress. At the time, the only type of trails that East Coast bike parks offered were very technical, rooty and rocky singletrack. For advanced riders these trails are amazing, but anyone who was interested in trying the sport for the first time was in for a rough go.

Gravity Logic began bringing the Whistler-style progressive brand of trail building to bike parks all over the world in the mid-to-late 2000’s. In 2014 they began work on the three East Coast projects and the response has been tremendous. This past summer I had a chance to visit all three parks to sample the goods for myself.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast


Windham, New York
The plan was to meet up with my buddy Joey B from Brooklyn at Windham to start off our weeklong road trip. Windham is just over two hours from New York City and a five-hour drive from my home in Buffalo, New York. Joey and I met up with bike park manager Nils Oesterle to check out the two Gravity Logic-built trails at the resort.

On the lift, I asked Nils about the response that the Gravity Logic trails had been getting. “Honestly, I’ve never seen a more positive response to anything in my entire life,” Nils said with a smile. “We don’t have a ton of trails, but people have a ton of fun on the ones we have running.”


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

Gravity Logic has done an outstanding job of incorporating the tough-to-tame natural shale shelves into well-built, super-fun features that inspire confidence. We followed Nils and his crew down the action-packed Batavia Skill and found that every one of the many jumps and features rode very predictably. Batavia Skill is the type of trail you can ride flat out the first time, and not worry about getting caught out on an inconsistent build.

On the next lift ride, Nils gave us some insight on why mountain biking has become a focus for the resort. “Being so close to New York City, we draw big crowds in the winter,” Nils explained. “The vision we have for our mountain is to create a four-season resort with activities that keep those folks coming back all year round. After hosting multiple World Cup races, creating a top-notch bike park was the next logical step for the mountain,” he said.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

Nils also explained the long-term goals of Windham’s mountain bike program. “We have a multi-year commitment with Gravity Logic and plan to roll out more trails. In 2017 we will have a top-to-bottom green run for beginners, and in the near future we hope to start work on our black jump trail,” Nils said. “We want to continue to introduce more people to the sport, and hopefully create more mountain bikers in the process.”

Windham has a partnership with Trek for their rental bike program. We tested out the Session 8 DH 27.5 on the jump trail, Wilderness Roll, and had an absolute ball. Wilderness Roll has some considerably large tables with a terrific line of sight on all of the jumps.

The fun and consistent Gravity Logic trails at Windham paired very well with their well-appointed rental bikes. With the addition of their top-to-bottom green trail opening in 2017, Windham will be a great place for anyone looking to progress their riding.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast


Thunder Mountain, Massachusetts
The next stop on our tour was Thunder Mountain Bike Park located at Berkshire East Mountain Resort. Berkshire East is a family-run resort located in Charlemont, Massachusetts, about two hours east of Boston. We did the drive from Windham in just under 2.5 hours and met up with bike park manager Gabe Porter-Henry.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

From the lift, we had an amazing view of the valley, and Gabe gave us some insight into the area. “We have a ton of people visiting this area every year to check out our world class rafting,” Gabe explained. “Berkshire East has invested a lot over the past years to help bolster the already exceptional outdoor recreation options in the area. In addition to the bike park, we have some of the country’s longest zip lines, North America’s longest Mountain Coaster, an aerial adventure park and we began our whitewater rafting program in 2015.”

Gabe described how mountain biking fit into the plan, “Jon Schaefer is the General Manager of the resort—and after visiting the Kingdom Trails in Vermont, he came back with the vision of building great trails in Charlemont.”


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

Gabe outlined that the first component of the mountain biking plan was to build a cross-country network among the Berkshire East Resort, the Warfield House, and Zoar Outdoor. The Warfield House is a bed-and-breakfast located on a working farm across the valley from the resort, just up the hill from the white water rafting outfitter. “The Charlemont Trail System is a network of 35-miles of singletrack that you can jump on right from the top of the lift and link into awesome trails in the valley,” Gabe said, pointing out the singletrack snaking through the valley.

“The final piece to the puzzle in our mountain biking program was to build great, progressive downhill trails accessible to everyone regardless of ability level,” Gabe said, pointing out the green, blue and black diamond trails in the bike park. “We had no bike trails at the resort, so Gravity Logic was able to build the park from the ground up. We handed them the keys to the castle, and couldn’t be more pleased with the result.”


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

At the top, we met up with mountain bike guide Kym and patroller Harold. “We want you to get a feel for the progression here at the park, so we’ll start out on the green Sugar Line then bounce over to a low blue run called Sugar and Spice,” Harold said. Both trails were perfect introductions to the sport of mountain biking.

On the next run, Kym suggested that we try out the blue flow trails Sleeping Jake’s and Blue Pulaski. Both had nice rollers and berms and offered a great stepping-stone to the resort’s jump trails. The Gronk is Thunder’s intermediate blue jump trail and was my go-to run during my time at the resort. Every jump and berm set you up perfectly for the next, making it an absolute pleasure to ride again and again.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

Trillium and Harold’s Blend are two great trails that both have a mix of natural features and machine-built berms. For those looking for proper East Coast gnar, definitely check out Back of the Shack, Billy Badger, Thunder Cliffs, or The Schist.

The marquee black jump trail at Thunder Mountain is Hawleywood. “The nice thing about Hawleywood is that there are no mandatory drops or gaps, so people can progress without being intimidated,” Gabe explained as we got set to ride. Hawleywood had excellent flow on the many step-ups, 25-foot tabletop jumps, and wood features.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

If you have the time, definitely spend a day riding some of the enduro trails that go from the top of the mountain. Gabe took us on an awesome 20-minute descent from the peak on a trail called Billy’s World. There is a bit of pedaling, but the flowy downhill makes it more than worth checking out. Thunder has a great Specialized demo fleet, so if you don’t bring an efficient pedaling bike they can sort you out with one.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast


Killington, Vermont
The final stop on our whirlwind tour of East Coast Gravity Logic-built parks was Killington, Vermont. Traveling from Thunder Mountain to Killington is a super easy two-hour drive north on Interstate 91. At Killington, we linked up with bike shop manager Ben Colona.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

Joey and I had ridden Killington once in 2007 and found an odd mix of long traverses on fire road and extremely technical rooty, rocky singletrack. At the time, the only lift access was to the highest peak at the resort using the K1 Gondola. The only way down for beginners was to ride the loose gravel work roads. “What we had to offer beginner riders before the Gravity Logic project was pretty horrifying,” Ben said with a smile.

“When Gravity Logic came in and did the initial site assessment, their first priority was to get beginner trails going,” Ben explained as we headed to the lift. “They really pushed the idea of developing the area serviced by the Snowshed lift. Using the Snowshed quad for the beginner trails limited the vertical, and we were able to build on the less-steep terrain.”


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

We started our day on the Snowshed lift with a green run called Easy Street, to get a feel for what Gravity Logic was offering to beginner riders. From there we hopped onto the low-blue jump trail, Step it Up. “If you can learn to navigate the rollers on Easy Street, it’s an easy transition to ride over to the jumps on Step it Up,” Ben said as we finished the run.

The next trail we hit up was the higher blue jump trail, Blue Magic. Blue Magic is one of the most popular trails at the resort because of its amazing flow and confidence-inspiring jumps. “When people get Blue Magic dialed, it’s time to send them on to our black jump trail,” Ben said as we made our way over to the Ramshead quad.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

The Ramshead lift had a great variation of trails, ranging from the sweet blue flow trail, Sideshow Bob, to the double black ProGRT racecourse, Goat Skull. Those trails are all worth checking out, but the star of Ramshead Mountain is Killington’s signature black jump trail, Black Magic. “Black Magic was built with a safety-oriented approach,” Ben explained as we dropped in. “There are no mandatory gaps or drops—everything can be rolled.”

Gravity Logic had just completed the Black Magic run before we arrived. Berm-to-berm transfers, big whale tails, and bonus hip lines were everywhere on this amazing trail. “On this side of the mountain there aren’t a lot of work roads, so you can get a great top-to-bottom experience,” Ben said as we pedaled back to the lift.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

From the Snowshed lift, we had a great view of the Adventure Center and all of the activities going on at Killington. Downhillers jumped metal bridges built over the mountain coaster, people were zip lining, bungee jumping, kayaking, and paddleboarding. “We have 20 summer activities, so there really is something here for everyone,” Ben said.

Killington has 140 rental bikes, the majority of which are from Scott Bikes. The rental fleet also includes bikes from a great variety of manufacturers like Pivot, Intense, Devinci, and Norco. “95% of folks who rent bikes are on a Voltage or a Gambler, but we do offer a big selection of high-end demo bikes if they want to try out something different,” Ben explained as we got off the lift for our final run.


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

As we looked out over the massive Killington resort, I took a moment to reflect on what a great impact these Gravity Logic projects are having on East Coast riding. You can easily incorporate more awesome resorts like Highland, Mountain Creek, and Burke Mountain into the circuit we made of the three Gravity Logic projects. “Gravity Logic builds trails right and they keep people coming back,” Ben said as we looked out over the green valley. “We believe that a rising tide floats all ships. The more resorts that get on board with Gravity Logic, the quicker the sport will grow.”


Gravity Logic trails on the US East Coast

We had an absolute blast on this road trip. I’m grateful to these resorts for making the leap and investing in top-notch trails built by the best in the world. Hats off to Gravity Logic for building their awesome brand of trail closer to my home than Whistler.

Thanks to all three resorts for hosting us on this amazing trip. I’d like to give a big thanks to Nils and Beth Stewart at Windham; Gabe, Jon, Kym and Harold at Thunder; and Michael Joseph, Ben Colona, John Lamb, Dawn Henke, and Will Goody at Killington. Also thanks to Hans Heim and Scot Nichol at Ibis Cycles, Scott Boyd at the Hayes Group, Jeff Clarkson at Schwalbe Tires, Bobby Dranberg at Thomson, Blaike Hennessey at Thule, Elayna Caldwell at SRAM, James Cronkwright at Trek, Jeff Wilbur at Cateye, Dave Watson and Kristen Smart at Sombrio, Jon Hadfield at OneUp Components, and Andrew Slowey at Cane Creek.


187 Comments

  • + 92
 FYI, two hours east of Boston would find you in the cold and raw North Atlantic. Thunder Mountain is two hours WEST of Boston.
  • + 31
 2 hours East of Boston would keep the lift line down a bit!! Lol
  • + 59
 @fattyreryder: You just have to hit it right. Ya know, cause the crowds come in waves.
  • + 1
 Yeah, better bring some floaties
  • + 5
 Yeah, I raced my buddy 2 hours east of Boston, we tide.
  • + 19
 East coast represent!! While I've not ridden much outside of the northeast, I dare say we've got trails & bike parks that are just as good as all the usually named west coast suspects. And the east coast racing scene has really come alive in the last few years.
  • + 2
 I want to give some of these places a try. I have heard good things about killington.
  • + 20
 Until you ride Whistler. Then your mind is blown and all you can think about is giving up any semblance of a life you have to go and live there for the rest of your days.
  • + 10
 Umm... you have no idea how good Whistler, Squamish, Pemberton, and the rest of SW BC and NW Washington truly are. It's the center of the biking world for a reason.
  • - 2
 Uhhhh... no offense but where have you ridden out west? I lived out east for 10 years, and found some fun places to ride... but it really doesn't compare. The vertical and terrain alone is worlds apart. I guess if you're just looking for flow trails it's possible to compare. But I rode what I could out there in ON, QC, VT, and I'll just say I have no plans to return with my bike now that I'm back in BC.

I will admit that it seems like there's a great race scene happening out there!
  • + 1
 @whitebirdfeathers: And you've obviously never ridden Kingdom Trails, Highland Mountain, or many developing trail systems in northern New England. They easily rival anything built in the NW.
  • + 3
 @whitebirdfeathers: Also I say this as a rider who has ridden on both coasts and in the areas mentioned on both coasts.
  • + 7
 Despite the lack of 9,000' peaks, it looks like these blow away anything in California, to be honest.
  • + 2
 @BikeKayakSki: Kingdom Trails is fun, but it's nothing like the PNW. KT is watered down family style fun.
  • + 6
 @yzedf: Kingdom Trails is where we send the Tourists. Not to say the riding isn't fun. But I would say it is maybe my 5th favorite trail network in Vermont? Maybe 6th.
  • + 1
 For the record for those who are downvoting me, I have ridden many parks in BC + countless local trail networks here and in WA. For the east coast I've ridden Blue Mountain, Horseshoe Valley, Camp Fortune, Bromont, Killington, and Sugarbush. I'm not saying they're not fun, I'm just saying there's no way they compare.
  • + 4
 TTC and Windrock are pretty sweet and old school gnar too!
  • + 2
 @bikekrieg: What are your top 5 trail systems in VT?

Millstone, Perry Hill, GMT, Killington, Saxon Hill?

KT is how i wish trail systems were done everywhere, but I agree it may not be the pinnacle of mountain biking experiences in NE.
  • + 1
 @ninerrider: you just have to know where to look in KT.
  • + 1
 @whitebirdfeathers: Its true they're beyond anything back east in terms of terrain/vert but coming from someone who grew up in New England and ridden a lot of places out west since moving out here in 2008, you can find insanely good stuff but as a different style back east. They're both incredible in their own rights and there are a few gems back east that trump many places out west.
  • + 1
 @bizutch: I need to go there. What's the best time of year? I want to avoid the crowds.
  • + 1
 @BikeKayakSki: i'm sorry but i've lived on the east coast my whole life, ridden all of these places, and can not agree. the northwest US and British Columbia are just way ahead in every way
  • + 2
 @nickmtb914: It's true. but there is something to be said how one can train on the east coast and can handle most things once one finally gets to the west coast.
  • + 1
 @ninerrider:

Hinesburg Town Forest + Carse Hills
Cady Hill + Adams Camp (Pipeline, Kimmers Etc.) and the Stowe Town Loops
Millstone
Saxon Hill
Norwich University Trails (Northfield)
Perry HIll
GMT
Boston Lot (It's in Lebanon NH, but incredible riding and only 10 minutes outside of VT)

And so many more smaller ones off the beaten path
  • + 1
 Y'all drive too far for great New England trail systems: B-street/ Earl's and Greater Ascutney (not just the wonderful STAB sytem, but the out trails on Split Rock, Fenn Way, etc) are just great. KT is a great family/ girlfriend destination.

Thunder Mountain is da bomb, btw.
  • + 16
 There's so much focus on how great "flow" trails are that nobody seems to realize technical terrain that warrents the suspension we use is dissapearing from under us. At least we have parks like Attitash and Sugarbush fighting to keep dh alive.
  • + 6
 Please don't forget the owner operated Whiteface Mountain Bike Park. Super gnar and 30 minute runs.
  • + 1
 Highland and thunder still have lots of gnarly trails, and if you want pure tech plattekill is right on the east coast.
  • + 1
 @samsq: i live an hour from highland and i can tell you they have 3 full technical trails out of the about 20 trails they do have, and with the way their "maintenance" is going every other day they are smoothing out a once natural trail to be a sidewalk. Examples from last year are, fancy feast, cat scratch, bits of odb.
  • + 2
 @transitions-are-neat: maiden voyage, upper threshold, 10 minute, odc/odb, and eastern hemlock are plenty of tech for a mountain that is focused on flow. If you want more tech thunder mountain is close by.

IMO odb is way more fun with the changes they've made, now you can blast down the steep bits faster without having to worry about the corners.
  • + 2
 @samsq: i only counted full top to bottom runs not half or one third. Also they already started smoothing out upper threshold it is only a matter of time before it is a smoothed out groomed run like the lower half became.

Not to be negative or anything but 10 minute is about 200 feet long, ODC is about 100 feet long, so I would not count them as trails, and the other point that hasn't even been brought to attention is the lack of attention they give to the few technical trails they have. Letting loose boulders fall and stay on trail, sometimes even branches, not solving drainage issues, just the general basic upkeep of trail has gone out the window.

You just need to take a step back and look at this so called "progression of the sport" and think is it progression or digression. To me everything seems as though it is being dumb down, and so are the standards of riding. There are people that go to other mountains and flip out because there isn't a smooth beginner bike path. That is not what downhill is, that is what riding a rail trail is. If you want a smooth path you shouldn't be looking at an 8 inch travel bike and a mountain, you should be looking in your local neighborhood.
  • + 2
 @transitions-are-neat: I won't argue about the trail upkeep. It's the same with their flow trails though, their trail crew has been focusing too heavily on building beginner trails the last two years to maintain things. NE style always gets really ragged halfway through the season.

Highland is also too small to have a lot of tech trails. They've used up almost all of the space they have to build anything besides short sections. They can build flow trails more easily because they don't need to route the trail to a rock face or steep section, they can just build them anywhere.

Besides technical trails, highland has been pushing freeride farther than any park on the east coast, maybe farther than any bike park in the US. Tombstone, bonesaw, a line, the slopestyle course, hellion, and sherwood are all a blast to ride. I go to highland to ride those trails and to race maiden, if I wanted tech I'd go to thunder, plattekill, my local trails, or mountain creek.

Sorry your local mountain doesn't have the trails you want to ride, but there is still a ton of tech on the east coast.
  • + 1
 @samsq: If you believe it is easier to build a flow trail I can tell you do not do any trail building. Moving all the rocks, trees and rest of the earth is a lot harder than going through with a rake. Highland and most other bike parks end up tearing up or down old technical trails to make room for smoother ones. If you don't notice it now you will, technical trails are dwindling.
  • + 2
 @transitions-are-neat: it's not about how hard it is to build them, it's about what terrain is available to be used. Jumps can be put anywhere, but you can't move giant rock faces and root sections. And you can't really change the steepness of a tech section without digging the whole hill out and turning it into a flow trail.

And speaking of creating trails by going through with a rake, that's pretty much what 10 minute and odc are, and those are fairly new lines.

There is a finite amount of gnar that highland can build on, but they can put flow trails anywhere they want.

I really don't see technical trails dwindling. There are definitely more flow trails being built, but the tech hasn't gone anywhere.
  • + 0
 @samsq: and transitions-are-neat - Tech is dwindling - what is left for non dirt road/jump trails are neglected unsustainable over eroded trails, that end up not fun to ride - so what happens? They (bike parks) say, "Hey no one is riding these anymore, lets just pave them over." Why? Because they aren't made proper in the first place - all their time and energy (money) go to Jump trail/beginner crap. We have enough already! They are all the same! G.L.. itself says ",,,We make trails so everybody can ride them - it gets more tech the faster you go," Oh, please! What is tech at MCPB or Highland is turning into outright nasty, not too fun. And Thunder - nah, only Badger is any good (for now). Plattekill is awesome as is Sugarbush. .
  • + 2
 @neimbc: If you haven't been to Attitash I suggest you give them a visit this summer.

@samsq you can make terrain what you want it to be, a technical trail isn't about the nastiest root sections or crazy rock formations, it is about not covering up the ground with more dirt to make a smooth path. You can put a normal mountain bike trail that has plenty of flow anywhere, and keep the mountain in the trail. All I'm trying to say is I am sick of seeing technical trails suffer due to excessive dirt sidewalks being put in everywhere. If you need more examples, the middle and bottom half of trail 7 at killington, upper eastern hemlock and catscratch fever at highland, and thunder is too new to have made these mistakes yet. I'm sure locals at MCBP have a similar story about at least one trail being forgotten or destroyed to make room for a sidewalk.
  • + 1
 @transitions-are-neat: cat scratch fever is supposed to be a green trail, it's for beginners. It's not like it was a very techy or bumpy trail before they buffed it out. Not sure what you're talking about on upper eastern, are you talking about it starting with happy hour?
  • + 1
 @transitions-are-neat: everyone's been trying to install an 'Aline' and a B line. Big ol tabletops get boring. Rather have berms u jump in and out of, step ups and step downs and supercross style on offs.
  • + 1
 @jrocksdh: highland's got plenty of that stuff, come check it out!
  • + 1
 @samsq: Eastern used to be a top to bottom trail before happy hour. Cat scratch fever used to be a natural trail that wasn't as technical which made it a green. Now it is a smoothed out same as everything else trail.
  • + 2
 @transitions-are-neat: Pretty sure eastern still starts somewhere near the top of happy. Can't complain about cat scratch too much because it's pretty fun now and the "tech" it had was limited to that first rock section.
  • + 2
 @transitions-are-neat: I'm guessing while you live near there, you haven't been riding there long... Fancy Feast and Cat Scratch have always been beginner, smooth trails and they've never had more than a couple proper tech trails so to expect otherwise or to claim they've changed is absurd. There are plenty of other trails and mountains to ride with classic NE tech riding.
  • + 1
 FWIW, Thunder Mountain has a number of great technical trails: 3 true top to Bottom: Wine Tree (love this trail), Juggernaut, and Schist (can't believe guys are ragging on schist that trail is inspired) and a few shorter, techie runs: most notably Back o' the Shack.

And Plattekill still has the east coast monopoly on true gnar.
  • + 1
 @Superbman: not to forget ''Too Easy'' @Thundermountain
  • + 16
 We are so lucky to have so many lift accessed options so close to home here. And they're all amazing. I just wish I was 20 years younger...Thank you Gravity Logic, Highland etc. looking forward to another stellar year.
  • + 7
 agreed.. no tantrums on the east coast
  • + 5
 I'd rather ride with a missing chain than a missing link! Wink
  • + 3
 @StiHacka: this is why we can't have nice things
  • + 3
 I agree man the East Coast has so much good lift assisted stuff, more so than the west IMO.
  • + 14
 Have ridden all 3 from the beginning to now. Killy and Thunder are worth the trip. However windham you have a lot of work to do. Only 4 trails at windham and 1 is world cup DH course. Windham is way overpriced for what you get. Honestly better off going down road and riding elm ridge trails for free. Parking lot was empty when I went this year not sure how long this will stay open. Thunder has probably done the most work overall since opening. Awesome trails from tech single track to flow trails to beginner trails. Heard the plans are to open some trails on backside of thunder which would be awesome enduro trails. Plenty of potential there but season price pass is a bit steep IMHO. Killington has really stepped it up this year adding trails on ramshead. Season pass is cheap for what you get making this the best deal IMHO. My only gripe with killington is the fire roads you have to ride to get to some of the good stuff like foxy roxy, yo vinny and shreddie. If you take steel panther to end of side show bob and don't finish with a smile on your face something is wrong with you. Gravity logic keep up the great work!!
  • + 3
 they cant build trails off the top cause of land owner issues with the state thats why you don't have single track off the top
  • + 2
 Am I the only one that f'ing LOVED the fire roads there? 40 MPH manuals between the water bars, drifting through the turns, full speed booking into cable trail!! I'm soo into fire-roading now!
  • + 2
 @MCjebBP: you're definitely not the only one, when we have a crew riding the fire roads become the fastest/scariest part of the day.
  • + 2
 @MCjebBP: You can still take that exact route. Did it many times last year!
  • + 13
 It's a shame Killington got rid of some classic trails to build dirt sidewalks thru the woods (specifically calling out Sideshow Bob)
  • + 4
 Gravity Logic sucks. Sorry fellas,neg perop away - BUT if you can drive a GOLF CART on them - it's not a down hill trail - think about that - If you like the jump trails - great, but why is it that's all they make? Their other stuff is mediocre at best - I've been to every ski resort that has DHing in NE , NY and NJ - G L trails are the weakest - and yes, that Sideshow Bob (intermediate mind you!! Are you f'ing serious? That's a mom's trail) is a piece of wasted time and energy.
  • + 1
 Luckily, MCBP's Sideshow Bob is still running version gnar.1!
  • + 1
 @MCjebBP: so many baby heads...
  • + 1
 @neimbc: Agreed, gravity logic knows how to make the... exact... same... trail, everywhere

A coincidence that Nickleback is from Canada?
  • + 13
 So sad. The east coast is kicking the west coast ass regarding bike development.
SoCal has the best weather and the worst bike park scene....so frustrating Frown
  • + 2
 this is pretty true. One would think with socal weather, you could run a bike park 12 months out of the year in a majority of places.
  • + 1
 @Turboduck01: its Too dry to get that good loam that the northeast and the pacific north west have
  • + 10
 Making everything roll-able on an expert flow line is more of a bad than good thing IMO. I feel it is safer to have a mandatory gap or drop at the start of the line because it is more intimidating and there will less likely be problems with different levels of riders on the trail
  • + 8
 As a northeastern native and current resident that has ridden out west, this is refreshing to read about. What I don't understand is the arguing back and forth between which coast is better and comparing different parks on the eastcoast......

Not to be the bearer of bad news but nowhere in the northeast is there anything comparing to Whistler. (That's not the end of the world). We still have a ton of amazing places to ride out here and the bike parks just keep getting better. Highland vs. Mt. Creek? They're both awesome for different reasons but comparing them to Whistler is just nutty. Lets just ride our bikes and appreciate what we have.
  • + 6
 Don't forget Seven Springs and Wisp!!! NOT! I wish these guys would hire Gravity Logic...It's almost like all the bad a$$ lift trails hopscotched from the NE resorts, over the PA and MD resorts, and then landed in VA and down.

Seven Springs could easily have a Mountain Creek/ Highland atmosphere with 2 high speed lifts but they refuse to put any investment into the trail system. Eric Carter came out and built it over a decade ago and Springs slowly let it lay to waste.

If anyone affiliated with Seven Springs is reading this article or my comment...please take note! You have so much wasted potential! Wisp...same deal! Please get these guys to your resort!
  • + 5
 Even when springs tried t make themselves better, they built crap trails on the large northern face. Their idea of maintenance i push brooming the trails... There and wisp is a waste of time... i mean shit, you can walk up wisp faster than you can riding the lift.
  • + 2
 When the most challenging trails can be ridden on a warm up run, you know something is wrong. 7 Springs has so much potential...if they paid for gravity logic to cut two trails on north face's 750ft vert and had more than three raw dh trails, the place could take off. However, years go by and no new trails get built. But hey, owner Bob Nutting's net worth is only 1.1 billion, so there is clearly a shortage of cash! Definitely not a resort for the riders.
  • + 6
 I spent four years as the trail crew lead at Seven Springs. I had dozens of conversations with the decision makers up there about the potential of the place, and it all seemed to fall on deaf ears. The budget for the bike park was generally just barely enough to keep the chairlift running, and maybe to have one or two guys out on the trails shaving brake bumps and attempting to maintain the place. For a little while we had a really cool community of riders up there, and I did everything in my limited power just to keep people stoked on the place. It's a shame. I really put everything I had into improving and expanding the place from 09-12, but I never got the impression that management even slightly gave a shit about the bike park. By the time I left the place, I was completely over it. Fed up, sick of butting heads, and I know they felt the same way about me. It took a while for me to adapt to a workplace that wasn't completely toxic. There's a lot more to say, but I said my goodbyes to that place a long time ago, and it's not worth dragging up the past.
  • + 3
 Can't agree with you more man. I was involved with the initial build of springs, really sad how it's become.
  • + 6
 Don't forget about Snowshoe Bike Park, though not all the trails are GL designed/built, they do have several major trails with their signature on them. You could throw Bryce in there too I think.
  • + 1
 if only snowshoe had a trail like hawleywood or even dominion from mt.creek!would be the shit.
Snowshoe did say a "good" jump trail is in the mix.not skyline!
  • + 5
 I have been riding for 25 years and I just want to thank these parks for taking the leap and say that you will be rewarded with my constant attendance! I rode Thunder (my home mountain) and Killington of these multiple times this year and they are amazing! Day trip from Syracuse! Hawleywood at Thunder is sooo amazing and there are some serious tech trails with real pucker factor. Killington is insane! Black magic 35 mph 30 footers! amazing flow and great gnar mixed in. Creek is always great and getting better. I have progressed so much in the last 3 years because of the availability of quality trails and the resulting increase in stoke! Wish we had these 20 years ago but I'll take it! Thank you Thunder, Windham and Killington.
  • + 1
 Why do you like the dirt roads? if you've been riding for 25 years - you can see how GL killed a few good runs at Killy and dumbed the place down and every other place they go - you should have awesome skill by now and not want to just ride dirt roads. Jump trails are not DHing. - it's BMXing with DH bikes.
  • + 3
 I am not a fan of Gravity Logic - if you like dirt jump stuff - then that's for you. - They dirt pave everything - pluck out natural features, fill in dirt everywhere and over berm the hell out of the place - Sorry, but that gets boring real fast. As for their DH runs - they cut a few trees and then let nature erode it and the bikes chew it apart - nothing sustainable or even remotely fun at all. So you get either beginner dirt roads (Which they'll call black diamond and any little kid can go down, or a mess of a trail. Do these guys ride at all or are they just construction workers operating a bulldozer?
  • + 1
 You've clearly never been to Thunder my man. Tons of GL built natural trails. Billy badger is probably my favorite.
  • + 1
 @dhmtbr777: Badger is the only thing good at Thunder - pretty much all I ride there - a tad too tight in places. Been all over.
  • + 4
 Sugarbush - that's a great - non GL place - Please don't let GL on those trails! and don't sanitize and dumb down your runs - and keep the less popular ones open, clear of brush.
  • + 5
 Super excited to make a trip up to Killington this summer! It will be my first time there.
  • + 2
 I went for the first time this summer with some friends and their kids. Needless to say we sessioned jump lines all day haha. Cant wait to go back though.
  • + 2
 @schofell84: Awesome, I can't wait to go.
  • + 2
 @Abe-Roy: Yeah its an eternal bitch fest here on PB about flow trails, but if it brings out more people its win-win, as long as you aren't bulldozing good tech trails. Killington has the best business plan for an east coast mountain I've seen so far, which is about half a dozen. I will say their staff gave me some headaches, but I sorted it out with some phone calls.
  • + 2
 We are stoked on the growth of lift assisted riding and racing here in the east. Our racers love the varied terrain and fantastic competition. Each venue has it own vibe and most let us camp onsite increasing the fun factor by 10! It's a great scene and we are proud to be part of it.
  • + 2
 I agree with LRod - I took a trip to hit a few parks in CO last summer, it was really striking how they weren't really that much better than what's closer to home. I'd rather ride Thunder than Steamboat or probably Crested Butte.

Killington.... the big story there is wasted potential and a*shole staff (and I assume management, because the attitudes tend to roll down). I've never been hassled for riding my bike that much anywhere; you could ride through a shopping mall and the rent-a-cop wouldn't give you shit the way the lifties at Killington do for riding up to the lift.
The sheer size of Killington/Pico, they could be the Whistler of the east if they wanted to, but they're content to run 6 flow/jump trails in one corner, and tech up top that you basically have to hike to get to.
  • + 13
 Fortunately Killington is not content and is investing another $500,000 in Gravity Logic trails this summer, with more planned for the future. Sweet! I have no defense for the staff, which, unfortunately, you are right about.
  • + 7
 Wow, little salty arent we?? Killington has spent boat loads of money the last few years on improving the flow. There isn't a bike park on the east coast with as much terrain as them. So you have to walk your bike in the massively crowed base area. Whatever I will deal with that to session a 2.2 mile long trail with 60 some odd jumps, oh and season passes are $249
  • + 2
 I agree in that Killington/Pico could easily be the Whistler of the East coast. It's a shame they waited so long before investing in mountain biking as the terrain there is killer and the place is just enormous.
  • + 3
 @Bigernmcracken: Actually Whiteface is bigger, has the largest vertical drop in the North East, hosted the winter Olympics and Lake Placid is awesome! If there ever was a mountain better situated as the whistler of the NE "USA" it would be Whiteface, the Alpine Adirondack terrain even looks and feels like British Columbia. However, New York State controls what's allowed to be built there so unfortunately it will be difficult making a whistler style park in Whiteface, but as far as numbers are concerned it has it all. Now add Mont Saint Anne into the NE mix and Mont Saint Anne is bigger than both, already has killer trails and can easily be turned into a Whistler of the NE! Plus the riding around Quebec is phenomenal and the women in Quebec City speak French and are so Hot!
  • + 4
 @dirtyrig: Have you ridden whiteface ? I love there no nonsense tech but they have nothing but that. and As much as I love Downhill Mike and he works his butt off but that park does not have the $$ to build the trails that Killington has. I am guessing you guys do not understand how much it cost to build these trails, Hellion at highland was over $100,000 Black Magic was close to $300,000 one of those pretty bridge drops you see on Hawleywood are $15-17k each. Whiteface may have a longer gondola but if you go from K1 to skyship thats a 3000 ft drop and there overall aecerage that you can build on is much larger than Whiteface
  • + 4
 Breaks the posted rules and gets yelled at....and THEY'RE the assholes. YUP. You have quite the sense accountability! And you also don't know what you're talking about with their goals. Their goal is to be the the biggest and best in the east. The expansion plan isn't even halfway done yet. Next season will bring more new trails and long term the goal will be to develop the top.
  • + 1
 @Bigernmcracken: yea, Im 47 and I've riden almost every park in the NE including NE Canada and know Mike at whiteface. In my opinion Whiteface terrain is better than Killington, but I then said its too difficult to build at whiteface because of the Adirondacks being protected land NYS doesn't allow new trails to be built there. I'm happy Killington is finally making a push to expand, but I can not see it the whistler of the NE, sorry, and no need to throw numbers at me I never mentioned any mountains investment abilty. Just like many other mountains have done, tapping into Venture capital or private equity can help them develop a Whistler style resort, but that's a separate discussion.
  • + 3
 @dirtyrig: The Whiteface Mountain Bike Park is privately owned and operated by 2 downhillers. With the new management at the mountain, we almost have Carte Blanc on what we can do. Lack of crowds and finances has held us back. If riders come, we will spend a larger percentage of the revenue on trails than any other bike park. www.downhillmike.com is our official website for the bike park. The site is mostly for our winter races out west, but full on Whiteface site during the summer months. Whiteface, it's kind of like riding your bike down a big mountain. Also, thank you for posting some killer facts on The Face.
  • + 1
 @downhillmike: Hey Mike, It's Steve from down cycles... How have you been!? I remember many years ago we had a discussion regarding the trails at whiteface and it was brought up that they wouldn't let you guys cut new trails, they only allowed you to build on existing trails or old hiking trails that you had to research through old topo maps, when did this change?
  • + 1
 @dirtyrig: Things changed with the new management a few years ago. We just lack the funds, or crowds to build easy trails. I kind of like having the most challenging trails on the east coast, but we do need more riders. After reading all of these comments, we should be much busier than we are. It's funny when I tell some that Bootleg is harder than Whiteface. They are like, "impossible". We still have rules to abide to, but they are letting us build.
  • + 2
 I've been to Whistler, what Gravity Logic is doing in the east coast is a joke! They just build the same crap trail over and over Skyline/Sweet Dreams, Snowshoe, The Gronk, Thunder Mt, Wilderness Roll, Windham. A weak jump line with no flow. When I rode those trails at different resources throughout the east coast I seriously wondered if the GL build crew had become suicidal after building miles on miles of the lamest jumps possible. The east coast has some awesome riding and the resorts I visited (Snowshoe, Mt. Creek, Highland, Windham, Blue Mt, Thunder) had some sick trails, but it seemed to me that anything that Gravity Logic got its hands on was a huge disappointment. Don't get me started on the garbage that they put together in Virginia. Also, their signature feature, the whale tail is a huge waste of resources.
  • + 5
 Literally couldn't disagree with you more. What are you expecting?
  • + 4
 You also don't understand the economics of bike parks. Gravity Logic didn't have the idea to build these trails at these resorts, the mountain did. Gravity logic came in and gave them their best possible bang for the buck. Sure we all want the gnar but resorts want to make money.. investing in these green and blue trails let more scared/novice riders ride, creating lift ticket and rentals sales. Skyline at snowshoe is the best example, of your point and my points. For use upper level riders, we have more skills that allow us to carry more speed, jump futher, etc... and that trail makes us brake check. An intermediate rider can cruise through that trail just fine. Just remember, whether you like it or not these trails are here to say.

Notes: Sweet dreams is freaking amazing as is, snowshoe built sweet dreams, not Gravity Logic. The Gronk, is basically brakeless if you can scrub or suck up lips.
  • + 1
 @eiiic: Down hill trails - you know , ones you can justify a DH bike on - can't ride a HT or BMX bike, or golf cart on them - but you can on any GL trail. Many of those "mountain bike" trails are just winter snow boarder trails in disguise.
  • + 1
 @neimbc: Agreed!!!!
  • + 1
 I get the sense you never rode Hawleywood at Thunder Mountain.
  • + 2
 @Superbman: you're correct, it was under construction when I was there in 2015. I will say that Thunder may be the east coast Gravtiy Logic exception, the jump line was significantly better than what they done at other resorts. Thunder is generally gnarlier and I love it there, one of my favorite resorts (1. Whistler 2. Angel Fire, 3. Thunder, 4. Trestle, 5. Highland). The east coast has it good!!! Now if we can get more action in SoCal...
  • + 1
 @mastersonrj: I heard that the reason Windham's jump trail sucks so much is because GL didn't actually build the trail, they just designed it and then subcontracted another trail building company to do the work. Something about Windham getting a cheaper package than the other mountains with true GL trails.
  • + 1
 @jucrowe: GL did build it - not subed out.
  • + 2
 Best DH trails at every NE mountain - in no order -
Windham: Citizens (Batavia Skills - so much potential with that rock wasted and made too tight - no skills needed)
Plattekill: No. 7, and multiple shit , that's beyond me. Love this place (needs a bit cleaning here and there.)
Sugarbush: Grandstand to Wood Lot to Wild Turkey - actually 80% of that place is great. - not a single GL trail. My favorite
Steel Panther (old 7) at Killy (GL got on it and ruined the second half) Other sections here and there, but nothing complete top to bottom.
White Face: - they are the same - steep, boulderous - not really DH, shuttle half is lame.
Snow: trail 5, to 9, not much (was better just a few years ago, before the bulldozer craze hit - they too are dirt paving everything. 10 is XC.
Thunder: Badger - Schist is an erosional nightmare.
Sunday River - Flatten em' (short) - Tango n Crash OK - machined, ( not like GL's luge, steroid BMX , snow cross trails)
Jimney Peak : use to be good, but now they pretty much abandoned it, so have I
Highland - nothing really, either all jump/freestyle or pedally or over eroded.
MCBP - See Highland
Powder Ridge in CT - HA HA joke - never been.
  • + 2
 add Attitash
add Burke
add Okemo
add Oak
add Gore
add West (reopening)
add Greek Peak
Might as well throw in Bromont
  • + 2
 @Eastern-States-Cup:
Forgot Burke - J bar, but needs lift service,
Attitash -, maybe Holy chute. Haven't been in awhile.
Okemo - all kiddie trails
Never been up to Canada yet - and don't know the others - where are they?
  • + 2
 I agree with Schist being an erosional nightmare. I still don't understand how or why anyone would want to "race" down it during the race season. It has no fluidity. There are parts where it's too steep right into a corner with no berm or anything to hook your tires into and then parts where you have to climb up and over boulders/stumps? Track sucks. Too bad, hopefully this year they make another gnar track and do it right because the mountain is pretty big but they are running out of room already. Gonna have to start building off the backside when they get permission.
  • + 1
 I'm interested in how Whiteface isn't DH?
  • - 1
 @schofell84: Can't let out the brakes anywhere (up top sure, but that's just stuff into the trails. Otherwise it's like tree skiing - tight, boulderous, no drops/jumps. Shuttle stuff , not challenging. Don't get me wrong , some sections are cool.
  • + 2
 @neimbc: The only way i can ride most of it is to let off the brakes ... but sure
  • + 2
 so more flow would make it downhill?
  • + 1
 @dimetera413: Berkshire east owns (not leases from a forest service, owns outright) over 1200 acres. They've got plenty of room to expand with a license to do so...moreso than any other place in the east (or in the lower 48 as they don't answer to the park service or department of the Interior). Watch and see...3 more years of expansion still planned (it's a five year project).
  • + 2
 @neimbc: Just because you can't ride it, you say it's not DH? That's funny!

It amazes me how many people talk shit about "Whitey" because they can NOT ride true gnar. To me, it's ALL about riding the gnar, fast. It flows very nice, and I love all the trails there. I hope people realize that your opinion is your "opinion" and not the truth. Stop spewing off lame remarks that can affect others well being. Flow trails are not the definition DH MTBing. When I ride other hills (and having a blast) I can't wait to get back to Whitefaces's 2400' of PURE DH riding. Size does matter! Ride it, if you can!

Pick your mountain, and be a dick about!!
  • + 1
 Really, that's what you have to say about Highland? Your opinions suck. Highland has awesome DH trails!

Take a lesson, or something.
  • + 0
 @adkrider: Oh please - save your aggression for the mountain - if it is my opinion - then that is yours. I'd rather hit it on a enduro bike that DH - too tight. that's all. and a shit load of boulders to pick through most of the way down from up top. PS - I ride it very well thank you.
  • + 0
 @schofell84: flow has nothing to do with ease of a trail (ie smooth fast) - it has to do with how it's set up through the woods utilizing topo and features. Compared to others and it's all relative - it is slower because of the tightness and over erosion.
  • + 7
 I really miss gap jumps.
  • + 1
 I am an east coast resident who travels quite a bit to ride. the way I look at the east coast is that it has a completely different character than the west coast and when I say west coast I am talking PNW. The east coast has a raw underground feeling which I really appreciate, I love taking trips to Highland, Mountain Creek, and Snowshoe (and do regularly). That said I agree with everyone saying 'you need to go to Whistler' the trails in the PNW/Sea To Sky nlow everything away on the east coast. I try to ride the PNW when it's super early fall every year, then come back here and ride the great parks in the fall.

Funny ppl brought up 7 Springs, I was one of the original guys on the project right when I got out of college...For the record it wasn't Eric Carter who built that. It was Alpine Bike Parks led and owned by Judd de Vall, Randy Spangler was the main dude on the machine. EC showed up to help plan out some trails. Those were some fun years the place showed real promise and was buffed to the max back then. It has serious potential but is led by a guy who has no clue how to run a bike park now, someday someone will figure it out and realize it is a potential revenue stream being so close to large metro areas.
  • + 4
 These guys can build some bad @ss trails! Looking forward to riding all three resorts tup
  • + 2
 bryce got a full gravity logic build.... its no where as big as the other three but still a fun park to ride. you'd be hard pressed to find a more friendly staff also!
  • + 2
 Agreed on the nice staff, but the lift is SO slow, and the longest run is still under 2 min to get down. I appreciate the work they've done and it's a great first step for beginners to gain some confidence but they will never get anywhere regardless of how amazing the trails are because their elevation is like 500 feet and the lift sucks
  • + 1
 @pm148: You like lots of vertical and fast lifts? How about 2,500 feet of vertical and a 12 minute ride to the top in a gondola. We have that.
  • + 1
 @downhillmike: Loved the gnar, but fire roads up top to trails not so much.
  • + 1
 @skinnyjeans: Yes, they suck. Fully agreed.
  • + 0
 @pm148: you realize they lift speed is just as fast/slow as massanuttens right? its controlled by law in the summer per a direct quote from the owner.
  • + 1
 @cptstoney: exactly why I also will not be going to massanuten. Idgaf why it's slow, I just don't like spending literally 80% of my time on the lift and 20% actually riding.
  • + 0
 @pm148: you must be really slow then. even with multiple breaks for lunch and beers i can get in 15+ laps easily.

blue mountain was only a minute quicker then the nuts lift with similar vetical.

your excuse is lame.....
  • + 1
 @cptstoney: I'm not complaint about the amount of laps, 15+ is easy, I'm complaining about the ratio of lift time to ride time. The runs are 2 min. and for what they are it's not really worth it. Not to take away from what they've done, they were the first park I ever rode DH at and It's a great beginner place. I took my younger brother there one day, he has never even ridden cross country and barely rides a bike 10 times a year. He could do all the trails with the exception of the last steep part to jump section on copperhead. There needs to be more of a challenge which I can see they are trying to add but even then the fact is they will always be hampered by the tinnnyyy elevation and the lift speed.
  • + 0
 they have done a complete face lift on both double black trails.......

pickleback and copperhead are not what they were at the begining of 2016.

only east coast resort to have two corkscrew/auger features.
  • + 0
 bryce will never be as big as the other resorts, its a country club with a hill in the backyard. they know they dont have the room or vertical to be a big name. their target market is the newb or average joe that isn't sending rampage sized jumps every weekend. they do a better job of drawing in those crowds then any other park ive been to.
  • + 1
 @cptstoney: I mean that's cool and all but two new cork screws really doesn't vastly improve the park in any way. They major issues preventing them from becoming a well known/popular park are not fixable. The could have 20 corkscrewes for all i care, im looking for a proper DH race run and some long fun jump trails

and yea thats pretty much what im saying, they are great for the beginner crowd, but anyone who is even semi competent is going to out grow the trails there. I think they'll probably be successful but they are never going to be in the same league as the other east coast bike parks mentioned above, even if GL built it.
  • + 0
 proper dh run? both their double blacks require a full blown dh rig to ride well. not sure how that isn't a proper dh....

they are also already a well know park in VA......

your excuses to trash them are still lame
  • + 1
 @cptstoney: I'm not trying to have excuses to trash them, Bryce is a great beginner park...got nothing but love for the whole crew there, they know me by name. But the fact remains that they will not ever compete with the other east coast bike parks such as the ones in this article...there's a reason that it was not mentioned in the article even though it's 100% GL built.

And I've gotta HEAVILY disagree, cooper and pickbleback at no point require more than 140mm travel to ride it to its full potential. I stopped brining my DH bike to Bryce in favor of my Fuel and even that was overkill at times. I'd love to know what feature your talking about that requires a DH bike.
  • + 2
 @downhillmike: Haha, I love that "fire road"! Braaaaap braap
  • + 3
 Killington!!!! Beast-Of-The-East!!!! good job Goody, Jon and Ben for reppin "home"!!!
  • + 2
 Will Goody looking steezy up there
  • + 2
 For those mentioning Kingdom Trails - the real riding in that area is Victory Hill, less than 20 minutes from KT, and no watered down family fun, just real riding!
  • + 1
 On another note...all the neg. comments about this park, that park and all parks...UNTILL YOU PUT A SHOVEL IN YOUR HAND, NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE BITCHIN ABOUT :/
  • + 3
 parks dont let randos build.... they hire people like gravity logic....
  • - 3
 @cptstoney: they supply job apps...right?
  • + 2
 not for a build crew.... they contact gravity logic and sign a contract.
  • + 0
 @cptstoney: that you are correct..on high speed flow trails they do hire GL and they do sign a contract...but if you think that GL is going to stick around to clean up/maintain the single track trails that cover the mountain..it doesn't work like that...after they build it, it is up the mountain staff/trail crew to keep it clean..friends with all the pak crew in Killington Smile
  • + 4
 maintaining isnt building.

i know exactly who does the up keep. im good friends with the entire crew at bryce.

i get the intention of your first post but it doesnt work well for a big park. if it was a local system i'd be waving my "grab a shovel" pitchfork along side you.
  • + 10
 I put a shovel to dirt...on trails that I ride for free and do not have a bike park staff. When I am paying upwards of 50 dollars for a 1 day lift ticket or 300+ dollars for a season pass...GD right someone better have the trails maintained for me.

That's like saying skiers should groom the slopes if they want to pay to ski them...
  • - 3
 @scbullit36: Hemmorhage much?
  • + 2
 @cptstoney: Don't be so quick to generalize. MCBP has built nearly all of its flagship trails and features with an in-house trail crew. Dominion, breakout, greenhorn, tempest, domboo, salvation, the pump tracks and learning center... I'm pretty certain that Highland is similar. I've personally sculpted a trillion lips here and never had to sign any mystical contract. If anyone has anything to say about the building, they can indeed grab an application and swing a shovel first. Many of us have!
  • + 2
 @MCjebBP: Mountain Creek had the best curved step down ramps...has.
  • + 2
 @cptstoney: My local park loves it when randos show up to build on build days. In fact, they give out lift passes for help.
  • + 2
 This East Coast West Coast Feud is starting to Rival that of Biggie/Pac Keep it up guys Smile
  • + 1
 @bigernmcracken Haha. True. But it seems to be a Gravity Logic trait. Plus, Thunder is in western Mass. pretty much a different state.
  • + 1
 I'm just happy the east coast locales are getting some love and attention. It's as if mtn. biking started in the west or something, and never make it over here Wink
  • + 1
 I've never been to a park that GL built, but I am so stoked for this up comming summer to visit Windham and Thunder
  • + 3
 Windham is honestly not worth the trip or the money for a lift ticket.
  • + 1
 @jucrowe: love the WC track!
  • + 1
 @jucrowe: yes it is, and it's cheap.
  • + 2
 @adkrider: A LOT CHEAPER than Mt Creek....and I must say that even though they don't have many trails, all them look amazing... I would seriously go even if they just had the WC track
  • + 1
 love the dedication.. thanksGravity Sunday RIver do another 6-7 min DH race this year please
  • + 1
 Merica! yes! we need good stuff in the states. Might have to visit these soon.
  • + 1
 News to me... there are mountain two hours east of Boston! I'm there, sign me up.
  • + 3
 Go thunder!
  • + 1
 I believe they built some trails at Blue Mountain in Collingwood to.
  • + 1
 nice work) dream bike park)
  • + 0
 Any other dh mountain beside these one and HMPB in the area ?
  • + 3
 Yes, we are fortunate to have so many options. From my home in central Connecticut we can visit at least a dozen bike parks within a 4 hour drive. This site has a good map if you are planning a biking trip to North America. mtbparks.com/Bike-Parks
  • + 1
 @MTBSarge: exactly, between the bike parks and all the local trails we have in CT & beyond I'm pretty happy about what New England has to offer.
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