A New Perspective on the Lošinj World Cup Track - Video

Apr 11, 2018 at 15:24
by Sarah Moore  

The countdown is on to the opening race of the 2018 UCI World Cup Downhill season in Lošinj, Croatia. Here's a different perspective from the POV track previews we've seen from Angel Suarez and Unior Tools.


Rider: Jernej Cokan, Team MTB Trbovlje
Video: Matevž Zupanc, MZ Pix



157 Comments

  • + 87
 Please tell me there will be an optional ramp into the water
  • + 48
 Optional? How about mandatory!!!
  • + 39
 The finish line should be right on the edge.
  • + 3
 my biggest compliant on this track is it's basically single track I hate one line option races. it makes it alot less interesting
  • + 0
 @grundletroll: I think that when a track is more 'single tracky', results depend more on rider skill and less on a tactical mindset as far as racing and line choice goes. But yes, I agree, it can get a little old.
  • + 5
 @grundletroll: There is a really good chance that we'll see some lines develop once the pros get on it. They're ok riders and look at tracks in unique ways.
  • + 3
 @daugherd: Agreed, I see more than 1 line in a lot of places and I'm no pro. The course isn't even marked off yet LoL
  • + 1
 hahahahahahahahaha awesome!!
  • + 57
 Solid riding by Jernej Cokan!

It looks like timing is critical, unweighting over sharp rocks and boosting over rough sections. This guy clearly has it dialed. Makes me wonder what it will look like with top WC guys. Can’t wait!
  • + 6
 1000% agreeeee!!
  • + 10
 Skipping stones: first rider that came to mind was Brosnan. When he's on, the guy just floats, skips, & pops over everything
  • + 2
 Looks like jumping over the step on step off boulder at 2:00 will be a possibility.
  • + 39
 I for one think many people have underestimated this track. I can see plenty of struggles, punctures and crashes taking place in those rocks before the final urban section sorts out who has put the fitness work in over the winter.
Salute
Beer
  • + 79
 This urban section is a fckn JOKE ... End
  • + 17
 I'm not laughing . . .
  • + 5
 @RedBurn: better than pietermaritzburg or cairns. nothing wrong with a fitness test especially in the first round. at least this one is preceded by a fairly interesting track.
  • + 11
 are they seriously putting in the urban sprint at the end?..... hoping its just some sick joke
  • + 13
 The track was pretty much made for Aaron gwin. His finish line sprints are insane. See Fontana races for reference
  • + 9
 Not to mention what happens when limestone gets wet...
  • + 5
 I was thinking it suited Minnar more but I'm sure Gwin could win. I wanna see Bruni put on his semi-slicks again.
  • + 4
 @shhhteve: They have to in order to have a finishing arena,there's no room for one further up. Hopefully they'll put in some urban DH features to make it more interesting.
  • + 7
 @makripper: Then why didn't he win in Cairns?
  • + 0
 @Flowcheckers: semi slicks will be eatin up by this rocks before they come in handy for the finish sprint
  • + 1
 I am waiting for footbal style speculations which rider should go to which team and which team is best. Madison Saracen psycho Fans.

Also i like how media is catering to trolls who say "this track is not worthy of a World Cup". Oh if you only release enough evidence you can make people understand. NOT
  • + 1
 @xTwoSnakesx: sorry i forgot to ask him.
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: I would watch them race in a aldi parking lot if it came down to it.
  • + 0
 If the goal is to have a spectator friendly race, where fans can be a part of it, the urban section is a good idea. It won't be the decider of the race I don't think.
  • + 1
 @orastreet1 - agreed. Most importantly, spectators tend to not care about race deciding spots because they are unaware of it. They care for places with biggest potential for crashing and carnage. Sometimes both factors come together in one place. But riding through town is a great thing for the spectators.

@makripper: DH Racing hooliganism is a chance to materialize keyboard violence.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: the beautiful thing about the internet is that everyone thinks that the first uneducated thought that pops into their head has to be right and displayed for the world to see. (For some reason) i fear it will only get worse. A world full of anti-social YouTube commenting know it all's.
  • + 2
 @makripper: no, not really. There's way more fact checking. I remember myself saying unbelieveable horsesht and getting mad props. The era of suspension acronyms and when carbon was coming into gravity MTB, like 2008-2012, oh man, people were raging pure guesses with no attempt at making an educated one, myself included. Abi yoga? Try that back in 2008... comment boards under her articles a great example of successful self policing. At least I see it this way. Try to say today that carbon explodes on impact. 29ers were so totally gay back then, it was fun to say it. My friend was holding a sign with that sentence during the XC Worldcup in Hafjell. Got a snap shot from Sven Martin for Vital report, standing with it by the side of cross country course. He did it more for a goof than to savethe world, but it was more than cool back then. But little did we trolls know what's coming and how much hate we can belch out, because then the E-bikes came.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: some truth to that. 29ers we're shit back then pure shit. Companies kept pushing to make things better so people buy it. Same with "carbon" there are still some places where it doesn't make sense for people and yes. If you live in an area where rocks constantly fly up from your tires and have to deal with huge chunky rocks, maybe carbon cranks aren't for you. As far as fact checking it is getting worse. See Reddit for example. If there's a thread relating to your profession. Don't even bother reading or you will become aggravated by the nonsense people pass for as real and true. It's scary.
  • + 35
 It’s a good course. No reason to hate on it.
  • + 8
 It’s just too short man. Might be low 2 min runs.
  • + 6
 You mean like the Windham track that everyone goes mad for?
  • + 5
 @codfather1234: kinda, except way less exciting
  • + 8
 @Clifflane3: Hopefully a short track means really good camera coverage.
  • + 2
 @laxguy: Potentially unpopular opinion; I never liked Windham really. I did not find it exciting and I didn't shed a tear when it dropped from the schedule. But I guess it's a thing of national pride. Most people look at their national tracks on the WC circuit with rose tinted glasses. I'm guilty of it with Fort William as much as anyone. Personally I thought Widham was a bit dull and if you held a gun to my head, I'd probably confess that Ft Bill has gone downhill as well.
  • + 1
 @codfather1234: I'm not here saying Windham is the best... it's just a little short. I am a little biased as I grew up not far from there but I just don't like the looks of this Losinj track. Hopefully I'll be made to look a fool..
  • + 32
 After the initial video came out I thought the city stretch was just to show off mad wheelie skills, didn’t think it was part of the track. Needs to go.
  • + 28
 How is it that all the comments go back and forth between 'it looks too easy' and 'it'll destroy equipment'? Aren't those like the total opposite? And anyway, if it's super hard on equipment, isn't harder, rougher, natural tracks what everyone has been asking for?
  • + 7
 It has been pointed out on other threads that just because a track is easy to tear tyres on doesn't automatically mean it's hard to ride a bike down. The counterpoint being that bike set up, line choice and deciding how hard to ride certain sections are relevant skills in world cup dh. The question is how much of not getting a mechanical on this track is skill, and how much is luck. Nobody wants a race decided on luck, and after watching the other vid where riders are flatting every run its easy to understand peoples fear of this. I guess we will know on race day, hoping for a good one!
  • + 1
 @catweasel: It is a discipline called "downhill", not "speeding 70km/h on gravel". As you can see on the video this track can be ridden fast with proper skills. If track is not easy on tires then it is hard to ride a bike down, especially when you are racing.
  • + 2
 @lkubica: well there I was thinking I'd presented 2 sides of an argument and drawn no conclusions. RE the easy vs hard on equipment argument, I was talking in theory. Like for instance if you found a flat section of rocks shaped like a bed of nails that you could easily role through at 3mph, but at 4mph you were guaranteed a puncture, would this be a really hard piece of riding?
  • + 5
 @catweasel: well luck is a concept that pretty muc doesn't exist in real life. If you ride consistently why would the outcome be any different if everything is dialed ? So it will be a matter of finding the right setup of tire presure, suspension setup and riding agressivity during training and ride the same during the race. Sure if you get everything dialed for 30km/h during training but end up going 35km/h during race run you will blow everything, is that lack of luck ? Nope it's a failure to replicate race run conditions during training resulting in an innapropriate setup.
  • + 2
 @Balgaroth: Well I am not arguing either way, I presented it as a question. As to luck the definition is: success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions. I would say the change in weather at Lourdes last year would fit that definition in that the best riders failure to win the race was caused by vast changes in the track conditions not by their own actions. So luck is a concept that very much does exist not only in real life but in mountain bike racing. As to luck in this particular race that remains to be seen. Perhaps the variables of getting a mechanical on this track are too hard to control, or perhaps the best riders in the world indeed have the technical knowledge and bike handling skills to be consistent. I'm certainly hoping for the latter, all I said was I could understand peoples fear of the race being decided by luck. I agree with a lot of your statement regarding replicating practice, what we don't know is how fine the margin for error is, and whether or not this will result in an outcome that is not "lucky" but perhaps statistically less likely. A rider with a light touch for the win perhaps, Brosnan or Bruni? I'm excited to see what happens either way.
  • + 1
 @catweasel: Surely lighter rider are more likely to succeed as they put less strain on the bikes. Bruni and Brosnan come to mind for sure. Other than that it's going to be a race for consistent riders, those who can put 10 times the exact same run together, that way if they get a good setup they will go through the race.

Lourdes ? Wasn't lack of luck, rather it was being victims of absolutely moronic organizers who didn't care about the Athletes despite getting clear weather forecast. Lack of luck would have been if this storm came out of nowhere, act of god like, which doesn't exist in real world as we can predict such bad storm at least few days and with certitude few hours before.
  • + 27
 Looks a lot better than those go pro videos. Also that's a dope spot to end the race.
  • + 23
 How is this trail bike track? Id love to see anyone here riding their trail bike down this and riping it like that dude in the video
  • + 4
 For real
  • + 2
 Just wish it was longer. Low 2 min World Cup tracks take a lot of fun out of if for the spectator.
  • + 17
 @Clifflane3: Not necessarily. Imagine a track where 8 camera views actually shows the majority of the action. No more "Oh it looks like he was down earlier in the track", "Oh he had a mechanical somewhere", "Oh he must have had a problem somewhere we missed."
  • + 2
 @xTwoSnakesx: you’re right, just need Red Bull to actually give it to us.
  • + 16
 I'm just stoked that the start of the DH season is here! And I would rather watch this urban section then the fire road sprint finish at Cairns.
  • + 13
 Track looked good with this guy riding it.

I don't have a problem with the urban finish, hooning down city streets, alleys and stairs is fun. Downhill tracks are also fun. A combination of the two for the odd race is fine so long as the overall series is kept in a reasonable balance of say 60% natural gnar, 30% flowy park type stuff and 10% urban / wooden ramps / wallrides etc.

Will wait to see the race before moaning about it.
  • + 16
 Nice track (for an Enduro stage)
  • + 0
 if this was a Triathlon then yes ill be looking forward to running and swimming.....unfortunately its called Downhill for a reason
  • + 11
 I dont mind the track and I mean the actual trail portion. I do not like the town section at the end. I just think of a person getting a flat or a low tire and the race to be decided by a push through town....
  • + 13
 I’m kind of interested to know the story on those rock walls. They didn’t get stacked over the weekend...
  • + 6
 those rock walls got build 100 or more years ago, its how people on the island marked their land
i think, could be wrong its been a while since history class
(croatian in canada)
  • + 12
 @toni796: True, but the purpose was two fold (at least). Mark their own properties (like hedges in GB), and also to make the land inside of those borders little less rocky so it would be better for growing grapes and any other plants or for pasture. The walls were usually built during winter time. All the islands and pretty much all along the coast there are stone walls. You wonder sometimes how far these people have to go away from their homes to build those walls and how much time they needed to do it as most of them are in very remote and unhospitable places.
  • + 5
 oh god, Unno bikes first WC race will be here, on crank brothers wheels... I don't know what to think of the track for racing, but I do know it's not a place I'd enjoy riding too much. If only the finish line was a water jump
  • + 1
 Sea temperature is not so warm at this time of year Wink 13deg C.
  • + 1
 @Archimonde: thats not too bad its 8c here at the moment!

damn good to hop in after a tough spin though
  • + 9
 This makes Stromlo look amazing.
  • + 6
 @ajayflex if only the DH track finished up in the back streets of Wright
  • + 3
 Other than the tarmac ending part, how will they fit spectators in in the finish corral? If I'm not mistaken the rules impose 50 meters minimum between finish line and fences, how will they handle that? there isn't much space
  • + 10
 Boats.
  • + 1
 Seems like plenty of space for activities

Beer
  • + 4
 Is any one else predicting a que of riders with flats, slowly bunching up on that (shite) urban section
Smile
As mentioned above, a race decided on those lucky enough to not puncture /mechanical is gonna suck
  • + 0
 The winner might be the one who puts old-school amounts of air in their tyres. I'm sure they've thought of that. The temptation to skimp on casings might be fatal too.
  • + 5
 Dude seriously shredded it. Am i the only one that thinks a dh track should be WAAAAAAAAAAAYYY steeper? 240 m of height difference in 1.3 km long track is not enough.
  • + 5
 Seems like a tough track, but I don't like seeing races won or lost based on punctures - and this track is going to destroy equipment
  • + 4
 Separate category: finishing with a flat podium.
  • + 2
 Ow my hands
  • + 2
 Personally I think it is exciting that the World Cup has identified new venues and expanded in that respect. However I do feel they need to be even more ambitious and look to further challenge the riders when making course selections, though the course and location in Croatia looks great it doesn’t seem World Cup worthy in comparison to many of the more recently introduced tracks like the first visit to Cedric Gracias track in Andora and Lourdes not to mention the longstanding favourites from riders. I think if you were to look to some of the enduro word series as a competition in its infancy compared to downhill the destinations, courses and locations are really exciting and hold so much potential to host really long, challenging and varied tracks, that’s not to mention all of the amazing locations that are showcased here on pinkbike continuously. Hopefully this is a move in the right direction but in the future courses will be selected that are more challenging in line with the constant growth and progression of both the bikes of the time and the talent of the riders.
  • + 2
 im not into the urban section at ALL without that sprint to the end on pavement she seems like a nasty track. really hope the top guys don't suffer from any mechanical problems. it would make for a boring race if no one makes it down with without flatting
  • + 4
 This track is made for Bruni. He's put on a semi-slick at the rear and win it in the final sprint.
  • + 1
 Semi slicks = flat tires. Look at the Polygon team last year.
  • + 1
 Racing down what looks like the rubble from a demolished building then through the streets of town might be fine when you’re 10, but this is World Cup downhill racing! For a race this length they could have held it at any of the UKs short downhill tracks & made for a more exciting race!
  • + 2
 @IdRatherNotPeddle sure...but this is a world cup - I am all for trialling tracks from around the world at least once. I don't like the money driven policy of getting a world cup in a certain country..but i like that we are seeing world cups in different parts of the world - it only helps to grow the sport. Of course you could easily have a world cup season in the UK and Western Europe - but then its not a world cup is it
  • + 1
 this guy sure has the skills. A lot of proper hopping over rough stuff. But this track just seems too short for a WC. I think Windham was short, but this is even more so. Also not sure about the urban section. Will have to wait how it looks and rides on race day. Might still turn out to be an exciting race!
  • + 1
 It might seem easy but those rocks gonna steal you speed if you don’t focus and let yourself caught in the exit of corners in those same rockes ,and to gain speed again in that little incline with that track it’s gonna be hard ,will see
  • + 4
 hopefully redbull will get some similar camera angles, some nice clips in this!
  • + 2
 This is an awesome video. Awesome to see a different perspective of the track. Im a little confused with that concrete pedal at the end though Smile
  • + 2
 There are some rocks, which is cool because it's not smooth... but it doesn't look like there are a lot of line choices. Dunno about this one.
  • - 2
 i feel like limiting line choice isnt always a bad thing itll show whos faster down the same line.
  • + 7
 I saw the opposite. Line choice is critical. Remember, line choice isn’t just major steering left or right. It is also choosing which rocks to boost over, where to unweight and which side of each rocky point to touch. This is going to play a bigger role than on smooth wide tracks.
  • + 3
 Anyone remember the first reactions to the La Bresse world cup track videos?
  • + 2
 Yea It looks rough with amateurs riding it...but when AG and the rest of the gang show up it going to be all business! Cant wait, it is going to be a killer season of racing!
  • + 3
 Im not going to lie this trail looks pretty fun.
  • + 1
 I think the best thing is to give the word to the riders who recognized the track www.facebook.com/losinjworldcup/videos/435786806840561
  • + 1
 Well this track certainly adds some variety to the DHWC schedule. I think the burliest tyre/wheel combo will be the winner on the day.
  • + 1
 Haha looks like the organisers of this course watched EWS and decided they too can build a gnarly track for the riders
  • + 1
 The track doesn't look too bad (although definitely not sold on the finish), but was this really the next best option after the existing venues?
  • + 3
 This is how live broadcast should look like. Step up Red Bull TV.
  • + 1
 I wlked the track last summer and smiled to myself when thinking about the pinkbike comments. My only issue is that its short.
  • + 1
 I wouldn't hate the idea of having 2 runs.
  • + 1
 I'm worried the exciting parts of the track could be perfectly placed so that they won't show in the live feed due to timing.
  • - 1
 Nice to see some different views! I think this will be a most entertaining event. Short, fast, and lots of variables Smile

I like the pedally bit at the end, a good test to see who actually rides instead of just letting gravity do the work.
  • + 1
 It's DH ffs. It's all about letting gravity do the work and having the bike handling skills to manage the resulting speed. If I wanted to watch an xc race, I'd watch a fucking xc race. The pedally bit at the end is a fucking joke and an insult to dh.
  • + 1
 @gabriel-mission9: You must be new? FFS

Go take a history lesson in WC DH racing to see how/where it all started.
  • + 1
 @m1dg3t: haha, I remember it don't worry. It was rad. But its grown and evolved since then. You couldn't ride half the tracks they ride in the WC these days, on the bikes they were using 25 years ago and I think thats an improvement. Surely Road, TT, Tri, Track, CX, BMX, 4x,Xc and Enduro have got the "who can pedal the fastest?" side of things covered? Lets Keep DH focused on what it always has been about really. "Who can brake the least. Who can push the limits of traction round corners and over roots and rocks the furthest?"
In my eyes things like Hart smashing everyone in the wet at Champery, Hill repeatedly destroying the field on flat pedals, Gwin and Mulallys chainless runs were perfect examples of everything DH should be. Thats why people still talk about them years later. Cos they were awesome. No one really cares about that time Graves nearly won at PMB on an Enduro bike because he's a beast on the pedals. Cos it was a bit lame. Keep DH not lame. It's better that way.
  • + 2
 Of course a track that Sam Hill and Ratboy would do well on and they won’t be there...shame.
  • + 1
 That was Great bit of filmimg shows how tough the track is, well almost, Hope redbull coverage of the race is anywhere near as good But dought it will be, which is a shame!
  • + 3
 Leave your carbon rims at home.
  • + 1
 You can just see some little hipster dude running around with the camera like a chicken
  • + 1
 It's the Stigs Croatian mountain bike racing cousin! Now let's have mtb Stars on a reasonably priced bike
  • + 2
 Smoother than silk sheets, nice riding! Track looks fun and playful!
  • + 2
 Racing aside, this track looks like a blast to ride!
  • + 1
 I reckon its going to be rowdy. Tape it super wide and lets see some carnage!
  • + 2
 mint.....love the raw sound....
  • + 3
 I like Yugoslavia.
  • + 4
 @endlessblockades: I liked Jugoslavia too, then some jag offs decided to go all genocidal...
  • + 3
 @m1dg3t: Divide et impera.
  • + 2
 @Archimonde: What does a video game have to do with the conversation? LoL

Or are you saying divide and conquer? There was lots of dividing, but no one conquered. Only suffering on massive scale.
  • + 2
 this will be a 2 minute race!
  • + 9
 Just like Windham, which has always produced good racing.
  • + 10
 @Three6ty: Like sex.
  • + 2
 @vectorforces: but Windham course is legit. I’ve ridden it a few times. It’s scary in sections and soooo loose everywhere.
  • + 1
 I miss Windham@vectorforces:
  • + 1
 The course looks like it would be fun to ride. I liked the video. Nice shots and great audio!
  • + 3
 Cool video!
  • + 1
 The was probably the most textural sounding RAW video I've ever seen! Loved it!! great range of Freq. hella good mic?!?
  • + 3
 needs more rocks
  • + 2
 How many flat landings ffs!
  • + 1
 yep i also noticed that basically all the drops are huck to flat
  • + 1
 Yes, that's not so funny for the riders. They should eliminate those ridiculous drops.
  • + 2
 Parts of that track was like watching a kangaroo bouncing along
  • + 1
 This must be the most hyped DH race recently.
  • + 1
 That's certainly the best video showcasing it so far
  • + 1
 Dream track. Is this open to the public when not hosting a WC event?
  • + 1
 This track would have suited the rat's effortless smooth flow
  • + 1
 some sections look ok, is there much line choice any place?
  • + 1
 Gnarly looking rocks! Should be interesting to see who wins
  • + 2
 Looks amazing!!
  • + 0
 top looks good but the urban section ruins it . must say its the least excited ive been for a wc race.bring on round 2
  • + 1
 Flat tire defenders front n rear
  • + 0
 Track looks different and interesting, should be a good race. Not sure what all the butthurt is about.
  • + 1
 I liked the sound better than the track.
  • + 2
 So sick!
  • + 2
 Well placed tires.
  • + 1
 Downhill is slowly dying
  • + 1
 SikMik sprint ftw!
  • + 0
 lots of rocks!! they must pump their tires at least 28,99 psi!
  • + 1
 woah. Looks rough.
  • + 0
 For a back yard
  • + 0
 Ugh why is Vimeo so terrible? Seriously is it a Safari thing? Rarely works
  • - 2
 Just wish they didn’t start the season with a 2 min race!
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