First Look: Santa Cruz's Chameleon Hardtail Goes Carbon

Jan 28, 2019 at 16:26
by Sarah Moore  


The Santa Cruz Chameleon is now available in a carbon model. According to Santa Cruz, they "took the fun-loving, shreddy spirit and adjustability of the beloved aluminum Chameleon but evolved it into a lighter, faster, more advanced species. It’s a do-it-all hardtail that is as happy making the most of backyard booter (mis)adventures as it is fully loaded with camp gear and a color-matched dangle mug."

The frame only is priced at $1,599 USD, with complete bikes starting at $3,799 USD. The geometry numbers aren't quite identical to the aluminum model when comparing the two geometry charts, but with a couple millimeters difference here and a tenth of a degree difference there, this bike is essentially the same as the aluminum predecessor that was introduced in 2017.
Chameleon Carbon Details
• Wheelsize: 29" or 27.5+
• Travel: 120mm 29" / 130mm 27.5+
• Carbon frame
• Head angle: 67.2° - 67.3° depending on wheelsize
• Clearance for up to 3.0” tires (27.5+) or 2.5” (29er)
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Price: $3,799 - $5,699, Frame only: $1,599 USD
www.santacruzbicycles.com

Santa Cruz Chameleon

Santa Cruz Chameleon
Santa Cruz Chameleon
There is a custom blue Hope headset on the SE model to match the blue Hope hubs.

Santa Cruz Chameleon
Internal brake and dropper routing
Santa Cruz Chameleon
There's clearance for up to 3.0” tires (27.5+) or 2.5” (29er)


The Santa Cruz Chameleon Carbon is available in four build kit options, all with their lower cost C-level carbon.

The top of the line Chameleon C SE 29 Reserve comes with a 120mm FOX 34 Float Performance fork, a SRAM GX Eagle 12 speed drivetrain, SRAM Guide R brakes, a RockShox Reverb Stealth dropper post, a Race Face Aeffect R handlebar, a Maxxis Ardent Race/Minion DHF tire combo, and Santa Cruz Reserve Carbon rims with Hope Pro 4 hubs. It sells for $5,699 USD. Its 27.5+ counterpart has a 130mm FOX 34 Float Performance 130mm and Maxxis Rekon tires.

The Chameleon C S 29 comes with a 120mm Fox 34 Float Performance fork, SRAM GX Eagle 12 speed drivetrain, SRAM Guide T brakes, a RockShox Reverb Stealth dropper post, a Race Face Aeffect R handlebar, a Maxxis Ardent Race/Minion DHF tire combo, and RaceFace AR rims with DT Swiss 370 hubs. It retails for $3,799 USD. Its 27.5+ counterpart has a 130mm FOX 34 Float Performance fork and Maxxis Rekon tires.

Like the aluminum version, the carbon Chameleon changes to suit its environment - 29er or 27.5+, geared or single-speed. It uses swappable dropouts to convert it from trail bike to single-speed racer to bikepacking mule. There are two bottle cage mounts for those who want to use it for bikepacking, including a triple-bolt cargo cage mount under the downtube.

Santa Cruz Chameleon
Geared and singlespeed dropouts
Santa Cruz Chameleon
These dropouts make the Chameleon convertible between 29 or 27.5+ wheels


Geometry

Sanat Cruz Chameleon Carbon


Santa Cruz Chameleon
Photo: Gary Perkin, Rider: Craig Evans

Santa Cruz Chameleon
Santa Cruz Chameleon
Photo: Gary Perkin, Rider: Craig Evans

Santa Cruz Chameleon
Photo: Gary Perkin, Rider: Craig Evans



237 Comments

  • 134 14
 I want this in steel! 4130, bring it!
  • 47 0
 The song in the ad needs a metal cover version then.
  • 27 47
flag IntoTheEverflow (Jan 29, 2019 at 4:10) (Below Threshold)
 @Gamsjaga: No please dump the song in the ocean, together with the carbon.
  • 22 3
 Plenty of reeeealll steeell brands out there
  • 14 6
 To be fair - the alloy rides better than most alloy hardtails ive ridden and even some steel.
  • 13 20
flag sewer-rat (Jan 29, 2019 at 4:43) (Below Threshold)
 Look at Surly
  • 13 1
 @Gamsjaga: This calls for Steel Panther!
  • 43 8
 Here I thought hardcore Hardtails were supposed to be the poor man’s answer to a fun trail bike. Guess I was wrong.
  • 13 2
 @blackthorne: Chameleon hasn't been a "hardcore hardtail" in a long time (if ever, but back then there really wasn't any such descriptor). They were "do it all" for the trail/xc end of the spectrum, with some dirt jump capability, but with the move away from 26" it's pretty much a XC/trail bike with wheelsize and gearing options (you know, chameleon). Geometry was never especially progressive.
  • 24 1
 Chromag Rootdown, RSD Middle Child, Cotic Solaris Max, Ragley Big Wig, Curtis AM9...warning: may contain 853 and have more progressive geometry than Chameleon.
  • 2 1
 @mkotowski1: Exactly! Santa Cruz ain't Rollin like that.
  • 6 1
 you should get a guerilla gravity pedalhead.
  • 7 3
 The IBIS DV9 carbon frame is a full $600 US cheaper.
  • 9 2
 @endurocat: geo on the DV9 makes the Chameleon seem cutting edge.
  • 3 0
 Hardtails are made for hucking!!
  • 1 0
 Please please please make this in titanium. I can’t buy one, but it should be.
  • 1 2
 @wibblywobbly: Actually they have the same head angle and the IBIS has a bit of a longer chainstay ,which in a carbon frame is a good thing.
  • 2 1
 You have restored my faith in pb. So wanted some comment about steel to be the top response!
  • 1 0
 @endurocat: Ibis makes up for that with the short reach though.
  • 1 0
 @sos-dirt: Titanium? Check out the Lynskey 2018 Ridgeline SL. The 2018 model has similar-ish geometry to the new Chameleon. (The 2017 Ridgeline SL is much more conservative, with significantly less "reach" than the 2018.)

The Ridgeline SL has adjustable sliding dropouts with 148 Boost spacing. I purchased a 2018 27.5 Ridgeline SL from Chain Reaction for $959 last year. I own three other Ti hardtails, as well as an O.G. Chameleon. The Lynskey Ridgeline SL is awesome. Plus, Lynskey's customer service kicks ass. Just search on PB's forum to hear what others have to say.
  • 2 1
 Just get a Kona Honzo. Similar geometry, better sizing and loads of frame material choices.
  • 1 0
 @draperc: me first for the win!
  • 1 0
 @endurocat: Yup but I cant run the plus wheels I love so much. I have owned the aluminum version of this bike and love it as a Plus. I ran it as a 29' and it was a different beast. Very harsh and not fun to ride IMO. Cant wait for my root beer special to arrive.
  • 109 17
 As much as I like Christopher Walken, this is the mtb ad of the year!
  • 25 0
 All employees, pretty sweet.
  • 15 5
 KARMA KARMA KARMA KARMA CHAMELEON!!!!!! My day has been made hahahahah
  • 30 1
 @me2menow: I think they were saying "carbon". 'Cause you know it's uh, made of... Ah whatever--KARMA KARMA KAR...
  • 2 1
 and a hell of a lot cheaper
  • 12 2
 My desire to work there shot though the roof watching this ad!
  • 3 0
 4:3 ain't dead
  • 6 1
 Wow. I rode with him (JT) in middle school and high school, and now he works for Santa Cruz and stars in music videos? Where did I go wrong???
  • 2 1
 @me2menow: much like "Carbon Carbon Carbon Carbon Carbon Chameleon"
  • 1 1
 @me2menow: Its CARBON -CARBON -CARBON -CARBON -CARBON CHAMELEON.....NOT KARMA.....
  • 1 1
 @rgeniec: yeah? Well I bet you think they're saying "beach BRONSON blue" too
  • 62 10
 Couple quick things on the Chameleon release:

1) This is a carbon hardtail that you can run single speed. If you want to learn to ride a bike faster ride a single speed, FULL STOP. You will learn to attack everything on the trails - not just from your keyboard. The only other bike that does this is the Pivot Les but it is way more XC.

2) Geo and Spec Kit:
Having ridden the alloy version the geo is really well dialled for a trail bike and Can do everything well. Reality is you probably won’t take this into The Bike Park but if you do you can still have fun. If you want to send it and whip it get a jackal.

3) Video Release:
This is a cool way to show the public what Santa Cruz is all about. The people in this video are the people that you meet if you go to HQ. I stopped by the factory on a trip through California and the guy that set me up on my demo ride was Nic Bean. He is in the video and is a super rad rider both locally and on the EWS scene. His insta is also super legit.

At lunchtime when I came back to switch bikes there was a group of lady bosses heading out on Juliana’s for a ride. I asked Nic if they were the Juliana team. “No, they are just a bunch of our staff going for a lunch time ride”.

This is a company run by mountain bikers for mountain bikers. The culture at the HQ is “Cali laid back” but everyone in that building loves what they do and they know why they do it. This video is a great insight into THE WHY behind SCB.

It’s easy to knock the video if you haven’t been there because you may not get it YET. Also, chances are Joe would have started dancing if the video ran for another 5 seconds.
  • 2 0
 I run the 2017 chameleon in olive & purple (with matching purple hope components ofcourse), 27.5x2.8 rekons and dvo sapphire set at 140mm. Best hardtail I've ever owned. Nice touch of the triple bolt cage mount on the downtube (wish my aluminum had that) and love that they're offering a special edition carbon build with matching blue hope hubs/headset!
  • 8 0
 You had me at Lady Bosses.
  • 3 1
 We need more of this. Way to go folks.
  • 3 0
 I was actually just looking at a giant XTC. It's another carbon frame hardtail that's SSable. I want this so much more, though
  • 7 18
flag phops (Jan 29, 2019 at 21:04) (Below Threshold)
 4) $5000 for a hardtail. FULL STOP

Santa Cruz, like Yeti, isn't a company that makes bikes for mountain bikers. Its a company that capitalizes on vanity of people coming into MTB thinking that buying a flashy carbon bike for a high price is going to make them faster on the trails, just like buying a more expensive car or a motorcycle is going to make you faster than others on the road.

This thing is laughable for the price they are asking, and is a shame to the mountainbiking community that is supposed to be about the ride, not how much money you can drop on your hobby.
  • 3 2
 Santa Cruz, Yeti, Apple, Bose...
  • 4 0
 @HIGHTOWEROFPOWER Literally any bike can run single speed lol
  • 39 2
 Quality employees since 1994. Love that brand.
  • 28 6
 Just before the complaints roll in I'll point out the obvious that will no doubt be raised on this thread because its Pinkbike and everyone likes to moan at everything-

Only 2 sets of bottle bosses, not made out of CNC machined alloy and bolted together, only available in carbon and alloy versions, no ebike / fatbike models, no rear shock, wrong seat tube angle, wrong colour blah blah blah!

From my perspective, looks nice, more power to you Santa Cruz!
  • 10 3
 Kind steep HTA too.. Missed that one.. I really like my 66° HTA on my hardtail.
  • 27 1
 @swan3609: Only 66? Progressive 'Pinkbike forum' geometry suggest that unless you have 64 or less, the bike will simply fall of the end of the earth when you attempt to turn!

That's if its even possible to get it moving with a top tube that isn't long enough to use as a makeshift bridge!
  • 10 2
 Trail hardtails should be slack. Back when I had a 65.5 degree ragley HT and a 67 degree Reign X, the ragley felt steeper. Because pointed down a hill and sitting in its travel, it was.

I'm somewhat interested in a hardtail again, but I want it to be similar in feel to my 65 degree HA trail bikes... Does that mean I look at HTs with 63 degree HAs?
  • 16 8
 @rjwspeedjunkie:
Seriously though, It’s silly to have a steeper headangle on a ht compared to a full sus. Take fork sag into account and you’re looking at a pretty steep head angle while riding. A hardtail should be couple degrees slacker to a comparable full suss bike imho.

I have a BTR belter and while it has a pretty extreme (61.5) HA, it’s actually quite manageable even when serving as a trail bike. I bought it as a DH hardtail obviously, but it’s more versatile than I originally gave it credit for. Now, I’d by no means suggest a HA like that for normal trail use, but I reckon something like 63 (BTR Ranger) to 64 (Bird Zero) isn’t too out there for an aggressive all-around hardtail at all. The brits know what they’re doing when it comes to hardtails.

I still like the look of the new Santa Cruz though.
  • 2 0
 @swan3609: you have so much trail feel I can teel you know about head tube angles totes
  • 1 0
 @swan3609: I'd really like to try a hardtail w/ slacker HTA. Mine is probably in neighborhood of 67.5. Bike I still covet is Chromag Stylus in 26".
  • 6 3
 @rjwspeedjunkie Also the seat tube angle is way to slack for modern standards Wink I can't imagine sales of Chameleon are that great to justify doing a carbon version.
  • 1 0
 @rivercitycycles: I can't imagine they're that great to justify the above video, but it was pretty awesome!
  • 5 0
 My biggest complaints about my 2017 chameleon are the steep head angle and the integrated headsets that won't allow for an angle set. Oh, and I wish it had mounts for a rear rack for bikepacking, but that's a pretty unique request. I love everything else about the bike, especially those short chainstays. I don't know why anyone would want a steel version of this bike. I've had great steel hardtails before, and this rides even better than those, it's lighter, cheaper, and it doesn't rust.
  • 1 0
 @dustysteve: Have you tried running it with a 140mm travel fork? That's what mines been at for the last year with 27.5+ wheels. Tried 120mm, then 130mm for awhile, but 140mm feels best as an aggressive trail bike imo.
  • 2 0
 @rivercitycycles: I have a chameleon, it’s pretty excellent. Except for the seat angle. It’s climbing prowess has some learning to do. Slowest bike uphill that I own at the moment according to strava.
  • 2 0
 @swan3609: it depends on your priorities. The 69 degree headtube angle on my last Iron Horse hardtail combined with the 30mm stanchions on my RS Psylo allowed for very stylish riding. By stylish I mean when I hit the brakes hard the stanchions would flex and the front tire would drift back towards the bottom bracket and then start to shake. This effectively made the HT angle even more steep and almost naturally put the bike into a stoppie. It was pretty sweet, but some people prefer stopping instead of "stoppieing", and some prefer stability over sketchyness.
  • 3 0
 @nrb251: Yes. In fact, I've currently got a 160mm 27.5 Fox 36 on it. It's starting to feel closer to what i want. I'd still like it slacker though. Keep in mind the 27.5 fork has 20mm less stack than the 29 fork, so it's the same as a 29er with 140mm
  • 2 0
 @rivercitycycles: They were backordered forever. You had to wait 3-6 months for the aluminum version. I think the Carbon version gives them better control over production. I had to wait 3 months for my warranty replacement. I loved this bike. Just ordered the Carbon version...cant wait.
  • 1 0
 @nrb251: Thats exactly how I run it. 140mm 29" 51 offset fork and 27.5" plus wheels. 2.8 rear and 3.0 front. The 3.0 rear slightly rubs the inside of the chainstay in the rear.
  • 1 0
 @rgeniec: With an aftermarket wheel I don't rub the chainstays with a 27.5x3.0 on a 40mm rim.
  • 2 1
 @AgrAde: RSD bikes, check out the Middle Child
  • 1 1
 @woofer2609: I just ordered an RSD Middle Child. It will be replacing my chameleon. So stoked.
  • 28 12
 First!
  • 4 2
 Showoff Smile
  • 11 0
 SC missed a trick not doing it in the green Chameleon colourway we all wanted in the mid 90’s, with orange Graphics and orange factory forks .....
  • 13 0
 hmmm - whats on the back of the truck in 0:25-0.29 :-)
  • 4 1
 I guess it has 29" wheels? Smile
  • 1 0
 @tomonda: me hope very much.. :-)
  • 4 3
 It's the nomad wearing the 2019 orange colours.
  • 3 0
 @AgrAde: yeah but it looks like big wheels...
  • 5 0
 Its mega
  • 1 0
 Didn't even notice this. Any other Easter Eggs?
  • 13 3
 Loving the culture club advert.
  • 11 1
 Carbon, carbon, Carbon, carbon, carbon Chameleon... damn LSS
  • 6 1
 This song is why I could never own this bike. It would be going through my head every time I looked at it.
  • 2 2
 Saw this article, and immediately went to the comments to see if someone had made this joke yet. Evidently, Pinkbike never disappoints when it comes to bad puns.

Edit: lol I’m dumb, didn’t even watch the vid first
  • 4 1
 Every time you see one in the wild ask, Hey is that bike aluminum or is it, carba, carba, carba, carba...
  • 15 6
 Any other colors going to be available aside from bowel movement brown metallic?
  • 1 7
flag OrangeGoblin (Jan 29, 2019 at 1:25) (Below Threshold)
 3 colours. Check the website.
  • 8 3
 @OrangeGoblin: Carbon Chameleon is only available in turd brown currently. At least on the US site. Aluminum is available in the blue or orange colorways.
  • 4 1
 @OrangeGoblin: wrong. Two colors other than bowel movement brown are for the aluminum frames.
  • 6 0
 Dude, it’s called metallic loam.
  • 4 0
 I *wish* my BMs were that color.
  • 3 1
 I've been really disappointed by the looks of SC bikes lately. I'm sure they ride outstandingly well but dear god why are the colors all pastel poop green and the like
  • 2 0
 It's actually a metal flake bronze. I've seen it in person and it's quite pretty.
  • 5 0
 Wait SC specd their top build kit with hope, and not Chris King?? And CK just came out with their integrated headsets this year, not to mention a ano blue that would have been perfect for this bike!
  • 8 1
 I'll be that guy...why would I want to spend extra $$$$ on this instead of a Tranny Vanquish or a Honzo?
  • 6 0
 The honzo only comes with adjustable dropouts if you get the steel version. The chameleon has them in carbon and aluminum.
  • 5 0
 Vanquish is “only” $150 less, and the SC adds out of the box singlespeed capability and a second bottle cage mount. Those things are big for why a lot of folks ride hard tails. Better question is whether it’s worth $600 more than an Ibis DV9, if those ever come back in stock.
  • 1 0
 should mention I’m talking frame prices here.
  • 2 1
 But they also don't come in BM brown, so advantage Transition.
  • 1 0
 Also the similar carbon Ibis DV9. Sure, no single-speed option but Ibis DV9 in entry level build is $1,600 less
  • 7 1
 THAT. WAS. AWESOME!!!

Way to go Santa Cruz! The internet can argue about the geo’s and the frame material but they get 100% in my book for this video release.
  • 7 0
 when you crash it, the bike is like "do you really want to hurt me?"
  • 4 0
 What a great feel good launch vid.

I'd seriously consider one of these once I wear out my Canfield EPO. Hardtails are so fun. My "2nd bike" gets more use than any other in the shed.
  • 2 0
 Can't believe how ahead of their time Canfield was. Better geometry than this 4 years ago! Shame that they went under.
  • 5 0
 That
Was
AWESOME!

This spirit is a hundred times more important than any technical marketing mumbo jumbo!

Dear Santa Cruz- how can i submit my resume?
  • 6 0
 Haha, that was so cool. Makes you smile.
  • 5 0
 Someone more of a nerd than me tell me the details on all the Easter eggs teasing new bikes.
  • 3 0
 All the signs that read "Did you get my email?" What's that about?
  • 1 0
 @TheR: Looks like has to do with an Email to Will Ockelton, the Head of Marketing. Might be that was a joke idea to him that he didnt know about. Which would fit the lack of communication towards Management, as seen in the take when the party ends.
  • 2 0
 @tomonda: or OG willie in warranty
  • 1 0
 25-29 seconds in, back of the truck. Wheels look a bit big for a Nomad..
  • 7 1
 Guess who won the internet today.
  • 4 0
 2 years ago, employee walking the halls of @santacruzbicycles: "Carbon, carbon, carbon, carbon, carbon Cha-me-le-on..."
Joe Graney walking by: "Wait, did you just...?"
  • 9 0
 I am confident the entire program is reverse engineered to fit the song parody punchline.
  • 1 0
 @owl-X: Haha, exactly.
  • 3 1
 I have a 27.5+ 2019 slate blue S+ Chameleon with a 2019 130mm DVO Sapphire 34 fork - and a few more custom bits, and it allowed me to sell all of my other bikes, because they would've never been ridden again..... Most fun bike I have ever owned. This new plastic one isn't for me, but it's cool for those that think plastic is fantastic.
  • 3 0
 How you liking the sapphire 34? I have a sapphire 32 set at 140mm on my chameleon, but the new 34 looks very tempting...
  • 4 0
 @nrb251: Best fork I've ever ridden. I've had Pike, Yari, and Fox 34 and the Sapphire 34 is on another level. The coil sprung adjustable negative chamber (called OTT) has to be felt to be believed. I'm 220lbs all geared up and just go out and mountain bike ride in the SoCal high desert... think aggressive "trail" I guess? (man I hate these stupid labels) and the suppleness and mid stroke support is simply on another level. Every click of the damping circuits, as well as every turn of the OTT, can be felt. It took me a little longer to get it dialed in compared to the simpler forks I've had, but man, it was so worth it. No harsh bottoming, and no chamber full of tokens to achieve it.... as a matter of fact I don't have a single volume spacer in the fork (it ships with 0 installed, but comes with several in a bag, as well as a cool bolt on shorty fender). I'm lucky enough to live within an hour drive of DVO's headquarters in SoCal, and I bought it directly from them.... Such a cool vibe walking into their shop.... every dude there is a rider and way cool. Knowing what I know, I can't imaging going back to a RS or Fox product.
  • 6 3
 Or you could buy a carbon hardtail that is cheaper, with better geometry, 29er or 27.5 as well...... oh not to mention some more travel.
www.diamondback.com/mountain-bikes/hardtail/syncr-carbon
  • 1 2
 Looks dope
  • 4 0
 Santa Cruz please do not start adding unnecessary graphics/designs when your bike colors and overall design look so good already.
  • 2 0
 the Chameleon is the best hardtail in the world for me . been riding my trusty chameleon from 2007 till today .the video was amazing ,thank you for such a great well made introduction for the new chameleon .
  • 5 1
 Have you tried other hardtails?
  • 2 0
 @indobiker: yes plenty but i tend to go back at my chameleon . i own the 2007 and 2017 version so i would say its amazing how the bike handles and feels . also the special thing is it could do a lot of everything from hardcore hardtail with 160mm fork upfront to basically a dirty jumper with the dropouts change (talking about the previous version) . wish the bike would cost a little bit less so i could afford the newest one .
  • 2 0
 @anatol: cool..every bike has different feel so I think there's no best bike out there bcoz that's subjective. Chameleon I think is suitable for longer riding with the variation of the trails, some rocks, roots, or jump in some parts. But yep, this is good bike. Thanks for sharing bro..I consider the alloy version and production privee at the same time as they have similar price. Thanks again Smile
  • 8 3
 How can you not want to support this brand! Love it!
  • 4 2
 All of a sudden everyone here is a bike builder with all their head angle blah blah blah! Santa Cruz knows bikes better than us, just look at this beast! The Chameleon has been in their line before most of you were born!
  • 4 0
 The feels are real in that song, the whole team getting involved like that!
  • 1 0
 I love it! Only problem an aggro hardtail for me has at least 150 up front. 130 is a nice trail bike, but everybody is doing them now because they don't want to damage sale of full sussers. A front with 160 up front is able to give them a run for much less money.
  • 2 0
 I'm running a 150 mm Pike on my Chameleon and love it... I know they only recommend forks up to 140 but do we all follow guidelines?
  • 1 0
 @Triza82: Did you give up much in climbing? I'm toying with going to 140 on mine but I do a lot of steep/technical climbs and don't want it to get "wander-y" on me. Appreciate your input!
  • 1 0
 I actually liked the video, wth, why not?
The bike? It's one of the cleanest looking I've seen what with internal routing and all.
The colour choice is errr. Bold.

HA is a little steep for a modern day bike.
If it floats your boat, great! For me, hardtails are usually my donor recipient bike. New gear on the fs? Move the old stuff to the HT.
  • 1 0
 Has anyone put a 27+ wheel on the back and a29 wheel up front, I’ve done it recently to my 2018 chameleon with a 140 fork, I found it more lively but the front wheel wonders when doing technical climbs , anyone had similar issues ?
  • 7 3
 What a wasted opportunity to bring the hanger bottle opener back...
  • 2 7
flag WAKIdesigns (Jan 29, 2019 at 0:59) (Below Threshold)
 #drinkwater or Redbull
  • 4 0
 That's what SPD pedals are for bro
  • 1 0
 My hanger bottle opener on my old heckler was pretty useless with a derailleur mounted to it
  • 2 0
 It has been many years since I participated in a game of Bump-N-Dump. After watching this video I may need to organize one again.
  • 2 0
 We just called it "foot down" back in my day. So much fun, we would do it at bike races. going circles around two cones, being moved closer and closer together as riders went out. I remember times that the game started with 60+ riders!
  • 3 0
 Sick seeing Craig on a hard tail again. Makes me think of the old cotic video he did
  • 2 0
 still rocking a 2003 Chamaleon as my XC rig, 71° Head angle, 3 chainrings, still gets to beat some fancy rigs hahaha

keep up the good work guys!!!
  • 3 0
 Always a fun bike to ride...
  • 3 0
 that T1 pick-up is super sexy, great video, fun to watch, hat down SC
  • 1 0
 67.2 or 67.3 for the diff wheel sizes... hmm that's going to be tough to choose from. Jesus, just say 67.3, no one cares about the 0.1.
  • 7 8
 How about a new Hightower....

Kind of surprised they made this. Always thought the Chamelon was the bike equivalent of a CLA 250 - a way to get people in to the brand at the lowest possible price. Or to put it another way, it’s a premium entry level bike.

I own one. I’ve upgraded the parts on it and enjoy riding it. In a vacuum it’s great. It’s great poking around by yourself but if you are trying to keep pace with fast guys on full suspension bikes it gets sketchy. I threw a leg over one a new progressive geo hardtail like the Brits ride all winter and it all made sense. Geo is fine for people going out to poke around (average Santa Cruz rider) but not someone looking to ride hard.
  • 6 0
 Whut, CLA 250 is the lowest? In Europe, we get a CLA 180. Doesn't matter, it's still a shitty car. Plain rubbish.
  • 2 0
 New hightower is probably coming on 4/1
  • 7 0
 Not all trails are the most fun on a full suspension. Most if the trails by my house aren’t very technical and bigger full suspension bikes just dumb them down. So if I wanna go out for a longer ride, or just have fun on the trails near home I ride my chameleon. Less wear and tear on my full suspension bike and I can keep it set up more aggressive for when I actually need it.
  • 5 0
 @dhx42: My bet is a new Highertower on 4/20
  • 6 4
 I get that this is a hardtail and all, but thats some really damn conservative geometry
  • 4 2
 Now a SC hard tail will cost more than a fs!!! Let us poor mortals enjoy our low budget hardtails
  • 3 3
 I'm looking for a new hardtail like this one, but... Internal brake hose routing and only one (useful) bottle cage mount. No thanks!! Ibis DV9 have been designed properly, so it's very good choice but that stack is high.
  • 2 0
 Hope Pro 4 Hubs on Reserve rims? hmmmm lets see if they offer that combo seperately!
  • 2 0
 Carbon carbon carbon carbon carbon chameleon....what, you all were singing it too!
  • 2 0
 now i WONT have nightmares about getting the song "karma chameleon" stuck in my head. such a good promo!!
  • 1 0
 It's interesting to note that they show them grabbing a Santa Cruz carbon bar and an X01 cassette, neither things that are part of either build kit for the Chameleon C. Blank Stare
  • 5 3
 Commecal meta ht is way better.
  • 3 1
 Scooby Dooby Doo! Where are you?
  • 2 0
 I liked the video. Got a smile outta me.
  • 2 0
 So that's why Santa Cruz never has any models in stock....
  • 1 0
 have a custom art wrapped first run american hand built chameleon best 26 bmx ever!
  • 1 0
 They credit every person at SC at the end of the video, but they dont credit Culture Club for the song?
  • 2 0
 Listen to the lyrics...it’s a parody, not the original.
  • 1 1
 @KhyberRye: Just because it is a parody, doesnt mean they shouldnt include them in the credits. Sure, they dont HAVE to, but it sure would be nice to see credit given where it is due.
  • 1 0
 Steel, sub 65* HTA and 500mm reach, this is what makes a hardtail acceptable on PB.
  • 2 0
 That is the best bike launch announcement ever! Sorry Christopher Walken.
  • 2 0
 even if they sell zero of these bikes, making it was worth this vid.
  • 2 0
 It would be nice to have a non bias review Ibis DV9 vs SC Chameleon
  • 4 3
 WTF is SC doing with colours lately!
  • 3 2
 They borrowed the colors from SE...left over from the 1982 run of PK Rippers.
  • 3 2
 I feel like there's a secret competition under way to make the ugliest colored frames these days. The saving grace on this one is that blue accent lettering, at least that helps a bit.
  • 1 2
 That color is called kashima. Yet the fork and seatpost are black. *facepalm*
  • 3 0
 @yupstate: it’s not called Kashima.
  • 1 2
 Can't understand how making this bike carbon would have anything to do with "loading it up with camp gear " aspirational purpose , as is most "bike packing" gear I guess.
  • 3 2
 Thats one expensive hardtail...
  • 1 2
 $5600 for GX, Fox 34 Performance, and Guide R brakes... on a hard tail? What kind of Kool-Aid are they drinking? That makes a Moots look cheap.
  • 1 0
 You forgot carbon rims on Hope hubs, Hope headset, carbon cranks...
  • 12 13
 This advert is nauseating, i know its supposed to be funny but it's cheesy shite.
  • 1 1
 Wow, drop dead Gorgy, the bike not the George.
  • 1 2
 carbon carbon carbon carbon carbon Chameleon, they come and go they come and goooo, sorry I just had to
  • 1 3
 I use to be super stoked on this bike, but lost total interest at the words "dangle mug". Is the Radivist writing for PB now?
  • 1 2
 Dear Santa Cruz, I want the new Hightower/Hightower LT details please. Thanks, from a current happy Hightower owner.
  • 2 2
 Who cares. Can we get a proper LT 29er already
  • 2 2
 And Back to the All Same! Yaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnn!
  • 2 2
 Only available in C carbon, one for the peasants then.
  • 1 1
 Came here just to see the price.....
  • 2 4
 I LOVE my Chameleon BUT--for $1,600 I better be getting something with a rear shock. Like the Carbon Tallboy frames you can find all over the internet at $1,500...
  • 1 1
 Why doesn't it come in black.
  • 1 1
 yeah, they shoulda taken a page out of Henry Ford's book- any color you want, as long as it's black
  • 2 2
 That's why my HT was so expressive. They spend all day singing.
  • 1 2
 ................"angles chainstays obtusely into the ground for additional shittiness"
  • 2 1
 Terrible.
  • 2 3
 2019 is for sure the year for bike companies making the dumbest videos. #douchevideos
  • 1 0
 "Did you get my email?"
  • 2 2
 Culture Club sucked in the 80's and they still suck now. Get off my lawn!
  • 1 0
 Craig Evans is the homie
  • 1 1
 Pooooooo colour..... But why......... Meh......
  • 1 1
 The Boy George Chameleon
  • 2 4
 IBIS hardtail frame $ 1,000.00 ! Oh and it's carbon , for all you carbon fans.
  • 1 1
 Yep, and that similar Ibis hardtail at entry level NX build is $2200 versus $3800 for the GX Santa Cruz. Option for single speed dropouts on the SC is cool, but I don't know if that plus GX is worth $1600 more
  • 4 5
 Boutique bikes for glamour boys
  • 2 3
 Awesome release video! I'll stick with my Chromag for sure.
  • 1 1
 Seat tube angle ????
  • 1 2
 Can't find frame only weight anywhere....
  • 6 9
 Meh!
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