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Frameworks DH Bikes Stolen in Milton Keynes, UK

May 7, 2024 at 15:04
by Sarah Moore  
Asa Vermette lived up to the hype surrounding him to take the win win the Junior men with Luke Wayman in second and Daniel Parfitt third
Asa Vermette won the first round on his Frameworks DH bike.


The Frameworks Racing Team shared on Instagram that they had their van stolen from their hotel in Milton Keynes, UK after leaving the Fort William World Cup.

Thieves abandoned the van and some of their gear, which they were able to track with an Air Tag that was in one of the bags, but Asa Vermette, Angel Suarez and Neko Mulally's Frameworks race bikes were stolen, along with two Specialized S-Works Levo complete bikes, two Specialized S-Works Levo frames, and 10 sets of ENVE spare wheels.


bigquotesPlease keep an eye out for listings online. Email us with any info at info@rideframeworks.com or contact police directly (Good luck).

We lost:

3 Frameworks DH race bikes
1 Specialized S-Works Levo complete bike
2 Specialized S-Works Levo frames
1 Specialized S-Works Kenevo complete bike
2 pro tool boxes
Custom helmets and gear

We appreciate you sharing this!
Neko Mulally


We hope that the small team is able to recover these bikes or find replacements before the next round kicks off in Poland May 17-19.

Junior Men s winner Asa Vermette

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375 Comments
  • 1117 5
 Everybody in the building came together this morning when we heard the news. Our wheelbuilders are building up fresh wheels for the team, which should ship out tomorrow. Spares are coming the team's way as well. Let's get the boys back to the races!
  • 54 1
 Good on ya
  • 52 1
 Respect
  • 76 2
 New ownership is looking great so far!
  • 64 2
 That's the America we need more of. Good on ya enve!!
  • 39 1
 Asa's gonna win on whatever bike he can get his hands on in Poland (but I am a big fan of what Frameworks is doing).
  • 53 2
 Thanks ENVE.
You inspired me to do good and I just purchased a FRAMEWORKS print-on-demand T-shirt. Shipping was surprisingly good.
Thanks again

rideframeworks.com
  • 13 2
 Top pinkbike coment 2024, kudos envié!
  • 16 2
 @gcrider: we need a link to donate for some replacement frames and air shipping.

Post something up frameworks team
  • 9 1
 @gcrider: Fantastic idea. Glad we could help.
  • 18 1
 Tight move enve. Big respect!

Neko- we’re dying for a gofundme or something!
I’m sure people would even send money via Venmo/paypal/etc.

keep us posted. PB has got your back for sure.
  • 4 1
 Rad
  • 26 4
 @ATXZJ: "That's the WORLD we need more of. Good on ya enve!!"

I corrected that for you.
  • 7 1
 @gcrider: nice one, great idea and thanks for posting the link.

Have done the same, as you say, surprisingly good rates on international shipping.
  • 160 1
 @meathooker: Neko is on a flight home now to get more frames and put together what we need. We weren't comfortable asking for public financial suppoirt when we have insurance and great sponsors rallying for us. The time before race 2 makes it more complicated for sure. My other big concern is our mechanics who had their personal tool boxes stolen, which as we know is a real kick to the balls for these guys that work so hard for their riders. Their personal tool boxes are their personal assets. I will speak to Neko about a GoFundMe for Anxo and Josiah who will be keen to get back on the tools in Poland. Thank you everyone for the heartfelt messages received. Buy merch off the Frameworks website, it all helps!
  • 5 1
 @gcrider: done and done!
  • 4 1
 Bravo
  • 21 1
 @captain23: whatever we can do to help, the community is 100% behind frameworks! Neko has done so much for DH here in North Carolina, and now so much to promote DH globally. Now I’m off to buy that rock creek pass I’ve been holding off on, and grab some merch.
  • 10 1
 Purchased a t-shirt, hope it helps, even a tiny bit.
  • 6 1
 @captain23: you guys rock.

There will undoubtedly be a cash flow crunch until insurance kicks in.

What about adding some $100 t shirt options on the frame works website? Not asking for money but letting us help out a little bit.
  • 3 1
 @gcrider: Just ordered one too, thanks for the idea!
  • 12 1
 @captain23: my secret fantasy is now that so many t-shirts are purchased that FW suddenly becomes the best funded team in the world cup
  • 4 1
 @captain23: just purchased a Frameworks t-shirt. The whole community is sending everyone on the Frameworks crew good vibes. The toolboxes are a tough hit. I think many of us would donate to help out if we could.
  • 10 1
 @captain23: Just bought a T-shirt
Would be willing to GoFundMe some $$$ especially to the mechanics.
Like Enve stepping up, would like to see Park or Unior tools do the same
  • 14 1
 Park and/or Unior tools... Your turn to step up!
  • 2 0
 @captain23: you are probably driving past Luxembourg or not far away. But sadly I can not order a T-shirt to Luxembourg. Would be cool to be able to support!
  • 3 1
 comment of the year!!!
  • 5 1
 @Canadmos: Same. Come on PB let's rally and buy all their t-shirt stock.
  • 3 1
 @gcrider: ordered a shirt too
  • 4 1
 way to go ENVE folks!
  • 3 1
 @captain23: Bring merch to sell in Poland if you have room (and are allowed to).
  • 6 1
 I’ve put my FW t-shirt order in. Might as well spread the love elsewhere as well.

enve.com/collections/t-shirts
  • 4 1
 @gcrider: great idea. T-shirt it is!
  • 4 0
 @rol79: If you can't get a shirt sent to Luxenbourg how about ordering and having it sent to Neko Mulally c/o Ride Rock Creek 298 W Rock Creek Rd, Zirconia, NC 28790 They will receive it and then it could be sold again?
  • 4 0
 @jason3559: Cheers, done also
  • 4 1
 got my shirt. I wish i could do more to help. Enve, that's awesome! I will definitely consider your wheels when I purchase my next wheelset.
  • 2 0
 @pnguyen3: Thank you! If you're ever in the Northern Utah area, hit us up for a tour. You too @jason3559
  • 186 1
 those shitheads have no idea they just stole the mountain biking equivalent of an F1 car. hopefully, they're dumb enough to attempt selling those bikes, that would be comical.
  • 41 3
 An F1 car from the Southeast..... bad business for a bike thief.
  • 22 0
 In the hometown of Red Bull Racing no less!
  • 24 0
 I mean, if it’s anything like in the US, they just ship them to another country.

Stolen bikes from Colorado end up in Mexico a lot of the time.
  • 20 5
 I'm sure they knew exactly what they were stealing and it wasn't random at all.
  • 24 3
 @warmerdamj: you overestimating these scumbags
  • 23 0
 @Lagr1980: just because criminals are pieces of shit doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. It's no secret when literally truckloads of top end cycling equipment is in town for world cup races and it's not coincidence when it sometimes goes missing. It's pretty easy to follow a team van to a hotel and then come back a few hours later to take it.
  • 5 9
flag lkubica (May 7, 2024 at 21:48) (Below Threshold)
 @everythingsucks: Yeah but since brexit they really have no good place to ship this... Unless we take it literary and they put it on a ship...
  • 5 0
 I dont know how many people remember but some 15years ago somebody stole Matti Lehikoinens prototype Intense race bike, one of like 5 in existence and only one in the northern Europe. The bike turned up soon after ridden across the town by some dude and he could not get away with it... hope this will be the case here!
  • 3 0
 Frames will be very likely be destroyed/discarded.
Professional thieves know what they are doing, they’re just after the non-traceable parts.
  • 6 0
 @rich-2000: the double gold forks yes
  • 26 0
 @Lagr1980: sadly not. This is big business in the UK and thieves are becoming increasingly more organised. It is likely this van was tracked for hundreds of miles and monitored while the team went to the hotel room. I've been the victim of this myself, with my van having an airtag being hidden on it and tracked from a trip to bike park Wales. 12k my mates and my bikes stolen while I ate dinner out using a transit van master key. In and out in seconds. They had clearly been scouting the bike park car park and picked the best hit. Some bikes uninsured unfortunately. Police didn't even come out to see the van they just passed on a report number for insurance. Worst part is we didn't find the tag for a few weeks so they were able to continue tracking us. My wife was using the van. I lost a bit of sleep over that.
  • 15 0
 @lkubica: Err I'm not sure what you think Brexit meant but it didn't mean Britain took itself out of European Union by attaching a large outboard motor to Devon and scuttling away from France. Scumbags have always loaded bikes into shipping containers (and sent them to Eastern Europe mainly).
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: yea, 1000 of these means non traceable but likely desirable…
  • 8 0
 @warmerdamj: That's not what happened here. We were 10's of miles from the event, in an unmarked white van. Just unlucky.
  • 4 0
 @CamRivers: Wow man, that is a crazy story. The idea of organized gangs stalking a bike park parking lot is wild! On the one hand, it is hard to conceive of since bike parks are usually pretty wholesome, rural, and remote places, where people are often somewhat acquainted with each other, and it might seem like a gang would stick out like a sore thumb. But, on the other hand, I think back to some races I went to where there were some odd folks loitering around, who said they were there watching a friend or relative who was racing, and all it would take would be a cover story like that to avoid suspicion. In addition, at least in some urban areas in the USA (Los Angeles in particular) this phenomenon of "follow home" robberies is becoming more common, where people are tracked home from affluent shopping areas and then robbed of their valuables at their homes, so criminals applying that sort of strategy to a bike park and a van loaded with bikes starts to seem less and less surprising. That whole Airtag thing can be pretty spooky, I'm sorry you had to go through that.
  • 7 1
 @captain23: that's not unlucky, you were targeted. It happens a lot these days unfortunately. I know of people personally who have been in the same situation. It sucks and I pray things sort out for you guys.
  • 6 0
 @warmerdamj: Milton Keynes is nowhere near Fort William (circa 450 miles)
  • 1 0
 @captain23 Martin hope you guys have things sorted out before poland
  • 1 0
 @lkubica: incorrect.
Most hang low for a bit and then go out to Eastern Europe. The UK Niner Ambassador hired a PD, and managed to intercept his stolen bikes on way out to Poland, not without a massive amount of time energy and money, as well as personal risk.
  • 2 0
 @stevet1: so they could be in Poland already
  • 2 2
 @captain23: Im counting at least 60k worth of bikes, 10 sets of ENVE wheels plus tools and gear, thieves would easily travel 10's of miles for that. Even if it's 450 miles like @WillW123 says I doubt they were local, you are both seriously underestimating high end bike crime here and the planning that goes along with it.
  • 2 0
 They won't. It will be stripped down and sold for parts. Frame will likely end up in the garbage
  • 2 3
 lol you don’t know the UK at all. Robbing bikes is a national pastime anctive encouraged by the police and that dystopian hell hole Milton Keynes is where we keep our absolute best bike thieves. Word on the the street is that it’s already got an ebike conversion and been used successfully in over five iPhone snatchings.
  • 137 2
 bikes go in the hotel room no matter what.
  • 14 0
 Pretty sure Neko was on the Intense team when their bikes were stolen a few years back in the UK. Bum luck. Frank is gonna have to put in some OT the next few days.
  • 3 55
flag freestyIAM (May 7, 2024 at 15:32) (Below Threshold)
 @RCederholm: these frames aren't welded by Frank. They moved away from welded steel to bonded aluminum (except the rear triangle is carbon)
  • 15 0
 @freestyIAM: Asa for example was definitely on a FTW frame for the first race
  • 17 1
 Agreed. But, that gets more complicated with so many bikes.

They had 6 complete bikes, 2 ebike frames, and 10 sets of wheels. Thats a lot to haul around and find space for in most hotel rooms, especially if they were trying to be frugal (smaller rooms/etc).
  • 3 0
 @freestyIAM: they tested it…didn’t move to it entirely.
  • 7 22
flag Betacygni (May 7, 2024 at 17:06) (Below Threshold)
 @RCederholm: bad luck…or an inside job!
  • 3 0
 @freestyIAM: man they bonded gussets and weld beads as well. That’s a lot of work to make it look like it’s welded….

Look at the Fort William images bro. Asa’s bike in clear view showing a welded front triangle winning a UCI race.
  • 2 66
flag chillrider199 (May 7, 2024 at 18:09) (Below Threshold)
 @RCederholm: not actually nut Neko is just an expert at insurance fraud
  • 1 24
flag chillrider199 (May 7, 2024 at 18:10) (Below Threshold)
 But*
  • 8 2
 @chillrider199: that is a pretty strong accusation. What are you even referring to?
  • 4 10
flag Snowytrail (May 7, 2024 at 18:26) (Below Threshold)
 Agree, but if you have a whole team in a van to share driving there is no reason to stop anywhere, just keep going.
  • 5 2
 @ocnlogan: If it was me the pro race bikes would have spent the night inside, but I'm sure they had their reasons. I've stood my bike in the tub when the floor was littered with humans.
  • 4 2
 @suspended-flesh: Right? I even haul my hitch rack into the hotel room when parked overnight out of town. 10 minutes of inconvenience is worth days of pain & money.
  • 5 0
 @suspended-flesh: You're supposed to stack the humans in the tub and let the bike spread out on the floor, as it deserves! Razz
  • 7 1
 A brand of cheap hotels in the UK (Premier Inn) are more than happy to have bikes in rooms. At rounds of National CX I've been at, you go into the local Premier Inn at breakfast and you see all the bikes being wheeled through reception from the rooms. I had 4 stacked in mine most times (2 youth racers x 2 bikes each), plus 4 people. No way I was leaving them in my van overnight, when it was obvious something was going on with a shed load of race vans in the car park.
  • 3 9
flag chillrider199 (May 8, 2024 at 6:17) (Below Threshold)
 It was a joke. Its happened on the last team he was on. Its just what my brain thought of. Thats why I said “not actually” before I stated that. Apparently humor or reading is out the ability for those who have bike thieves on their mind
  • 3 0
 Ummmm. Yea. Whatever it is. And wherever you stay. If you need it tomorrow (or ever), it goes in the room. It goes in a secure storage facility. Or... I mean - Sure, a skilled thief can get past just about anything. But whatever you can do to cause them the pain of time - will help. Even if it's as simple as multiple-secured job boxes bolted to the van's floor, or 15 separate hardened square-sectioned chains with 15 of the stoopidest padlocks money can buy to secure the bike to the job boxes (or 15 separate security bolts threaded through the floor into the van's frame). And a dozen individual-battery powered screamers sprinkled around the van's everywhere (or 15 - if that soothes your soul). Remove the vehicle's battery. Take the black box with you. Put 6 (or15) steering wheel locks ON THE STEERING WHEEL! Yea it takes some time & effort to do all that. So why not just take stuff like a tool box & a bike to the room with you? I am buying at least a couple t-shirts. It sucks to have you shit robbed. But maybe worse to have you privacy & faith in others absolutly stomped into the dirt. Been there. Done that. So sorry. So angry!!
  • 1 0
 @handynzl: Agreed! Next time, for sure.
  • 2 0
 @chillrider199: sure, blame me for your poorly crafted “joke”.
  • 91 1
 scum.
  • 61 2
 I know it’s like this with most thievery, but the way the criminals get pennies on the dollar (if that in some cases) for something they don’t care about at all (bikes) while depriving people of their hard work, passion and livelihood always makes my blood boil especially badly with bike theft. Half the times, these bikes will end up tossed in someone’s yard or just pedaled around by some clueless bugger who has no clue what they even have on their hands.
  • 8 1
 Well, here in the US the nice bikes are quickly shipped out of the country and sold in central and south America. Aside from random local bike theft. Heard it from law enforcement as well as bike shop friends. Assuming something similar can easily happen easily in Europe as well. Good luck Neko , this fucking sucks.
  • 11 3
 @MikeGruhler: perhaps they’ll pick them up in Poland
  • 1 0
 Unfortunately I imagine they get much more than you expect for a lot of bikes they sell that aren't super identifiable like a Frameworks bike.

The specialized bikes and wheels will be really easy to strip and sell on for realistic used market prices, wait a few months and sell them in a different country and how would you ever trace them?
  • 6 0
 @chrismac: the bikes will be safer over here than in the UK that's for sure
  • 36 0
 I live in the UK and was in Milton Keynes today. It's quite a nice place, home to lot's of F1 teams, close to a couple of Bike parks like Woburn, fair bit of ££ around. Whoever nicked this lot did a proper job and knew what was what. I can imagine the bike's being stripped & Frames binned.

It's disgusting they are c**ts... I apologise for my country men.
  • 7 0
 I was in MK today, too. You're definitely right that there is some money floating about in nicer areas like Woburn. Equally, there is some proper scum in areas like Fishermead and Netherfield that like to take advantage of that...
  • 16 0
 @a-green: Fishermead and Netherfield had nary a chance. Gentrification took a look at those names and was like nah.
  • 4 1
 Every country has its fookin CHAVS! This really sucks.
  • 3 0
 Home to how many F1 teams?
  • 1 0
 @a-green: I hear mowing lawns in Netherfield is a good business.
  • 2 0
 @boozed: Red Bull F1, Honda was there (ERS systems).

Milton Keynes is generally good and would be pretty ok if they'd chosen a hotel in one of the nicer areas too as lots of cameras etc, wonder where in MK they were. As commented, normally lots of nice bikes, MK was also the head quarters of Trek UK until they decided to pull out.
  • 23 0
 @suspended-flesh: No, not every country is the same in this regard. Only 3-rd world countries or countries with a very pronounced Capitalism (e.g. lot's of really poor and desperate people). I don't bother locking my bike shed for years. In Bielsko-Biała you can leave your bike out of sight and it will still be there after an hour, even a $10k Santa. Lot's of bikes here, haven't heard of any theft recently, let alone theft from a van. Sorry, but UK seems to be a very shitty place in this regard. Of course theft happens, but things has changed dramaticaly during the last 20 years.
  • 1 0
 @boozed: redbull and soon to be whatever torro rosso are calling themselves these days
  • 1 0
 @JasenK: Trek UK HQ still in MK, relocated after Red Bull bought the land the warehouse was on.
  • 1 0
 @tomfoolerybackground: I was going to say, those names totally check out for being distasteful areas, but you beat me to it. They need a local rebranding effort with a posh name if the ever want to turn things around.
  • 3 1
 There is loads of s*it happening in Germany but around here something like that would likely never happen - I usually don`t even lock my garage as some kid always wants his bike in or out. It also seems that these things always happen in the UK.
  • 9 0
 @lkubica: and because of this in a society you always need to make sure everyone has something to lose. If this is not the case for a lot of people, the others will get mugged or get their heads chopped off. So paying to keep everyone on board is in your own interest.
  • 7 0
 @Vinnijussi: Yeh, this is basically what people in US/UK call socialism or even communism Smile
  • 6 0
 @lkubica: well there are other concepts too, like massing police and punishment or (a bit outdated) religion. You can also mix the stratigies and look at the numbers of how much "nothing" (to lose) is.Not an easy topic, but i am always shocked that a lot of people dont realize that ignoring the hopeless and hoping they will nevertheless respect the set up rules is just dumb.
  • 6 0
 @Vinnijussi: a quick Google shows 77,000 bikes stolen in the UK in 2023, and around 600,000 reported stolen in Germany in the same time. Results are hard to come by, but pretty shocking if even close to true.
  • 1 0
 @L0rdTom: I would not leave my bike outside in Berlin for 1 sec., the numbers could be true, although 10 times more seems a bit much. I dont remember anyone beeing tracked and robbed after a bikepark visit in Germany. But most bikeparks in Germany are in kinda rich regions so theres that.
  • 1 0
 @L0rdTom: Berlin has by far the most with 28.000 so the number of 600.000 is pprobably not true. Top 20 big cities together are approx.100.000 so its 200.000 the most. -still high but the numbers vary hugely by region (Berlin is 7 times bigger than Nürnberg but has more than 14 times the number of bikethefts).
  • 30 0
 Ironically, Australia was set up as a penal colony for naughty brits, Yet here we are....
  • 25 0
 Sucks this has happened to frameworks, any other brand with generic mass produced frames it wouldn't be such a huge issue as they could get frames shipped out asap.
  • 3 0
 Exactly this.
And Asa’s bike on which he rode his first World Cup and won…..
  • 37 17
 Bike thieves should be executed. Separately, what else could teams do as this seems a fairly common occurrence. Take the van battery inside? Alarm it? Sleep in it? Bring the bikes into the hotel?
  • 79 1
 The advice I've always been given is never be apart from the bikes. If you're sleeping in a hotel, take them into the room with you. Pack some XL refuse sacks to wrap the bike in if the hotel gives you stick about bringing in dirt. This really stinks for the Framework crew. I apologise on behalf of my shit hole country.
  • 70 14
 Hire me. I'll come watch all the World Cups then every night find a hidden nook of the van to sleep in accompanied by a trusty .45 loaded with hollow points.
  • 74 2
 @ryanandrewrogers: Your plan may be somewhat complicated in Europe.
  • 33 14
 we literally used to hang horse thieves...... cars, bikes, and motos are todays horses..... let's make theft deadly again
  • 13 0
 @toast2266: To be fair, murder is illegal everywhere. Would you rather they were pushed out windows, stabbed or bludgeoned to death.
  • 8 47
flag Mtbdialed (May 7, 2024 at 15:38) (Below Threshold)
 @Fix-the-Spade: don't apologize, just fix your shithole......I say this as someone that his lived in both countries, and both have a lot of work to do. But that work begins and ends with you and I.
  • 11 41
flag Mtbdialed (May 7, 2024 at 15:39) (Below Threshold)
 @vapidoscar: self defense isn't murder
  • 73 26
 @Mtbdialed: I try but people keep voting Conservative.
  • 36 73
flag Chief2slo FL (May 7, 2024 at 16:10) (Below Threshold)
 @Fix-the-Spade: funny, here we have the same problem here but they’re all voting liberal.
  • 13 46
flag Mtbdialed (May 7, 2024 at 16:22) (Below Threshold)
 @Fix-the-Spade: so Labour is going to fix your migrant/crime issues? lmfao
  • 17 8
 @Mtbdialed: I got news for ya: there’s a lot of places where murdering someone who’s only stealing your bike is….still kind of murder.

Maybe just wing ‘em from here on out…
  • 10 65
flag Mtbdialed (May 7, 2024 at 16:24) (Below Threshold)
 @Chief2slo: don't bother....he's a guy that thinks they just aren't being progressive enough. in the UK its Torrey vs labour. which is our republican vs dems. except all of the UK is bleeding heart really, and they get what they get. London, even the good parts, is a cesspool of crime that you get away with carte blanche if you are a N. African imigrant, and go to jail for if you are white.
  • 11 51
flag Mtbdialed (May 7, 2024 at 16:27) (Below Threshold)
 @benede1976: you aren't following, and I get why since you're slow and canadian....


Theft, up until restartedness took over, was punishable by death. Lets go back to those days. Bet theft would stop being a problem!
  • 9 7
 @benede1976: Eh. Everyone knows it's not murder as long as they're on a bike, and you're in a car. So just wait until the thief starts pedaling away and Ram 'em. Ez pz.
  • 31 5
 @Mtbdialed: Is that why there was only one horse thief in the Wild West? They hung that one and it didn’t happen again. We sure do have a lot to learn from you!

Did you know that America murder rate is much lower than Canada’s because there are so many guns they can all easily defend themselves with lethal force!
  • 3 2
 @Chief2slo: Gov't does nothing but enrich themselves.
  • 25 0
 @Mtbdialed: man how the f*ck did y’all make this into a political issue. You’re both ridiculous.
  • 12 14
 @Chief2slo: funny, here we have the same problem but they're all voting republican.
On a more serious note, if you get your news from any of these sources
1) Social Media
2) Cable news (fox or cnn )
3) Podcasts

you are the victim of disinformation/misinformation. Get your news from reliable sources folks, so you dont end up like the USA.
  • 9 5
 So summary capital punishment for property theft? C'mon, it's stuff. That's like saying graffiti vandals should have their hands chopped off. Speaking of, what happened to the Taggin' DHer from WynTV last year?
  • 19 3
 @Mtbdialed: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but crime rates in the US are way, way higher than the UK. Even a gun toting conservative bastion of freedom like Texas has higher crime rates. Vehicle thefts in Texas are almost twice as common as in the UK.
  • 2 15
flag suspended-flesh FL (May 7, 2024 at 18:45) (Below Threshold)
 @toast2266: GTA Californians are F'n sh1t up in Texas. Shouldn't have invited us, y'all.
  • 41 0
 @joebiden: I get my news from pinkbike. My understanding is that the next US election will come down to cable tourism
  • 3 12
flag freeridact (May 7, 2024 at 19:07) (Below Threshold)
 @ryanandrewrogers: now your talking, I'll join you with my .308
  • 19 9
 why don't you start with your orange turd soon to be president if you want to drag your american out of proportion punishment down over our modest faces.. Shouldn't you be living in Brazil with a mindset like that??
  • 4 5
 @freeridact: i would happily steal your ,308 and give it to your daughter downtown!
  • 14 1
 @Mtbdialed: JC you're a !@$%ing A hole eh?
  • 22 5
 Whelp looks like we got the conservatives riled up and talking about how they want to murder people again.
  • 22 3
 @Mtbdialed: Great idea, the USA has shown how well this works with the death penalty. That’s why you have so little homicide or violent crime….. Another bit of US brilliance to go with more access to guns as the solution to mass shootings. I’m sure once the Donald gets back in things over there will keep getting better and better.
  • 19 0
 @Mtbdialed: Once again, you've shown how blinkered and narcissistic you are. For once, could you just leave politics out of bikes, please?
  • 6 3
 @EikSkaloe69: I am not sure any French person is in a position to criticise any politician from another country after electing Macron twice. Same goes for justice when our country has became a proper cut throat place with cities like Marseille or Paris where homicides level as akin to the ones in Honduras... But sure go explain to the world how it should be done #facepalm
  • 2 9
flag EikSkaloe69 FL (May 7, 2024 at 23:38) (Below Threshold)
 @Balgaroth: You think I am french because of a social media account on which you pick a country? Blue-eyed simpleton.. But yes your country is completed ducked! It's been a long time since we've had a proper terrorist attack in Europe and they usually happen in your backyard.. I wonder why...
  • 3 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: the country is class just some of the scumbags in it
  • 5 2
 @EikSkaloe69: we know why, extreme right tend to attract terrorism.
  • 6 2
 @EikSkaloe69: Right so you just live and rep the flag of a shit country, why don't you F-off back to whatever your own country is ? And whichever country you call home, my remark probably still stand true since there are very little countries right now that are in a position to give moral or political lessons to the US or any other country really.
  • 15 3
 @Mtbdialed:

So much bollocks. When I was youth, we in the UK would hear stuff about NY city or South Central LA, the gangs, the guns, the crime. Imagine my surprise some years later when I ended up walking through these very places having nothing but pleasant interactions. And I didn't get murdered once despite being a lilly-assed limey without a concealed carry!

London is a big city with plenty of deprivation after 14 years of Reagan-style government funding cuts but if you believe the complete nonsense about it's crime problem, then mate you have to get your information away from Facebook.

Proper shit that the gear got nicked, but worse things happen.
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flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 3:07) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: yes they should they be executed
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 @freeridact: all right seal team six. Did you guys have your call of duty headsets on when you were typing this?
  • 15 1
 @oldsam: Save some time replying to Nick Keane / @Mtbdialed - its not worth it.

He's a relentless bullshitter, head of the empire that is 'MTB Dialed' which failed to apparently do any trade (find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13436638/filing-history) when he lived in the UK for a small amount of time while his wife went to work here and he presumably sat on his arse.

An ex-bartender who has a delusional view of himself happy to throw out bigoted and often borderline racist nonsense whenever possible.
  • 7 1
 @oldsam: Agree, London is a great place to live (Free Market Proof : the price of a pint), lots of great spots to ride bikes.
All this negativity about the UK from the Land of the Free is just the usual lazy thinking, regurgitated FB nonsense.
Those of us in the UK thinking this or that place is doomed or full of scumbags or whatever: Do something about it.
Our current attitude to public spending and wealth means there are haves and have nots, nice places to live and rough places to live and inevitably people who find crime more lucrative than min wage. And if that's too liberal for your tastes, then accept that crime will always exist regardless of how upset the "bike thieves must die" windbags get on PB comments. MK isn't a terrible place, nor is Fort Bill and lots of bikes have gone walkies there.

It's horrible for the mechanics who lost their toolkits, Asa who lost a WC winning bike and for a small outfit to suffer this setback one brilliant race into the season. Thankfully no one was hurt. Stuff can be replaced.

Their merch ships to the UK for a very decent price.
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flag ride2day (May 8, 2024 at 5:29) (Below Threshold)
 @joebiden: Please share your approved sources of news with us all. Let me guess one… NPR?
  • 7 3
 @Mtbdialed: I don’t wish this on many but I hope your bikes get stolen by the whitest of meth heads.
  • 5 10
flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 6:16) (Below Threshold)
 @justanotherusername: what kind of psycho would post this comment? Do you pull up business records whenever someone says something you disagree with?

Who gives a f*ck if he's an ex bartender? Some of us actually have to work for a living
  • 13 2
 @wburnes:I call him a bartender as I know that would offend him and the delusional view he holds of hismelf - he described himself as a 'world beating mixologist' previously when he was degrading others for the jobs they held - Being a bartender is nothing to be ashamed of.

Read his previous comments, he's a nasty guy, he isn't going to tug you off btw.

Edit - Aah, just looked at some of your posts, I get it, you are one and the same, maybe he will tug you off after all....
  • 5 1
 @wburnes: that's rich coming from someone who trolls on here full time
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flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 6:42) (Below Threshold)
 @kiwikiter: the high crime rate in America is entirely due to certain dysfunctional groups.

European-Americans, for example, have a very low crime rate, and legal gun owners in America are very law abiding.

The vast majority of violent crime in America is commited by a small group of people
  • 1 7
flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 6:48) (Below Threshold)
 @Saucycheese: what are you even talking about?
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 @wburnes: You can put your racist bias in your arse."The vast majority of violent crime in America is commited by a small group of people" yes, the groups that white "european-americans" made sure would stay as poor and excluded as possible.

The linkage between crime rate, inequality and poverty has been observed everywhere. Right where I live most poor people are..."white european". And most people in jail are also "white european".
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flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 7:06) (Below Threshold)
 @opignonlibre: violent crime rates of european-americans living in poverty (who are culturally excluded more than most) are still much lower than that of very wealthy non European americans.

It's true that poverty is a factor, but clearly not the only factor, and not the most relevant factor in america
  • 3 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: same I’ve always taken mine into the hotel room as there is always some scumbags about. I remember the Scott XC team had theirs robbed off the back of the van whilst they slept inside it at a marathon race in Wales, and that is some balls getting them off whilst asleep inside cheeky twats
  • 5 10
flag Mtbdialed (May 8, 2024 at 7:42) (Below Threshold)
 @Motdoc: sure sure! if the problem is guns, and Canada cures murder, then why don't we just send you all our Black and Mexican gangs to solve our murder problem??
  • 2 3
 @Balgaroth: I just moved to Jamaica pussyclot! Why don't you stop being a bombaclot?
  • 3 3
 @EikSkaloe69: I bet you just googled those slang words
  • 10 2
 @Mtbdialed: Come to ‘MTB Dialed’ we will service your bike with a side dose of bigotry and racism.
  • 1 2
 @EikSkaloe69: proper attack? Wtf is wrong with you?
  • 2 0
 @ride2day: I like NPR, but it is a left leaning news source. I have good memories of listening to book reviews with my grandmother over NPR. For actual news, I like AP News, Reuters, Aljerzzia(sorry for spelling lol), Christan Science Monitor, and Barons. AP News is def the favorite though.
  • 7 3
 @wburnes: found the racist pos everyone
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 @Chief2slo: you were camping out just to say that, weren’t you?
  • 5 2
 @Steventux: live here and love it. Major city, with the same issues as many other large cities (NY/Paris etc). Love leaving it to go and bike, also brilliant coming back.

Our current government cares only for itself. Maybe labour will fix some of the issues, maybe not. But anything is better than the conservatives.
  • 1 2
 @toast2266: pretty sure you can hire professional security with firearms in the UK too
  • 2 0
 @Nuss-95:
You cannot.
  • 1 0
 @Motdoc: They hung that one and other people kept doing it, but that very one never did it again! Big Grin
  • 18 2
 Probably Christian Horner trying to keep Max from going to Mercedes with fancy bikes.
  • 5 1
 Or Adrian's got a new hobby, they have locked him out of the factory after all.
  • 3 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: so his 'gardening leave' might actually be building a jump line in his back yard.
  • 12 0
 Man I’ve had my bikes stolen before and that suuuuuuuuucks, can’t imagine having prototype wheels, frames and shocks stolen. Dude thieves are the worst. Heart goes out to y’all and your team.
  • 19 8
 That sucks, but I would never leave my $5000 bike in my truck over night ever. Why do pro teams keep doing this with multiple $10k bikes? I'm sure vans wrapped with a bunch of bike logos is like a moth to a light with thieves.
  • 26 0
 looks like a plane white van in the instagram post.
  • 10 1
 @mallenger: they probably got followed from Fort William. It's common all over the UK at the minute
  • 4 0
 @thewho07: have heard, from someone who's van was stolen, that it's hotel car park trawling. They just look for vans in car parks, steal, empty out.
  • 4 2
 Honestly they were probably stealing for the Specialized e-bikes which have a faster/higher resale value.
  • 2 0
 @jjhobbs: There is a guy up higher in the comments who was saying he was at Bike Park Wales, and someone tracked his van from there, via an Apple Airtag, back to the restaurant where he and his buddies were eating after a day of riding. The perps then stole the bikes from the van in the restaurant parking lot. That suggests that at least some of the bike thieves are locating their prey at the ride spot, rather than the hotel car park, although I'm sure you're right that thieves of all sorts are trawling hotel car parking areas for anything valuable.
  • 5 0
 @jjhobbs: I think hotel carpark trawling is as likely as the targeted/followed/tracked theories. A hotel carpark, especially somewhere like MK where there's a huge amount of industry, will be a thief's buffet. All those vans with tools, bikes, expensive industry equipment etc etc. Even without knowing what's in each van they can just work their way around the car park and at least one of them will have something in it worth taking.
It really sucks that this is the case but it's a sad reality that we all have to take measures against.
  • 27 12
 Death to bike thieves!
  • 11 1
 On a positive note, I would be 100% in on a GoFundMe type situation here. Even their tool kit was knicked. Bastards!
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flag KingPooPing (May 7, 2024 at 16:50) (Below Threshold)
 Death to criminals, in general.
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 @KingPooPing: Move to Iran at your earliest convenience. If I can find a 'crime' you've committed, can I kill you? If you have never committed a crime, you're no friend of mine.
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 @suspended-flesh: People might think twice about being low life gutter trash if consequences are severe.
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 @KingPooPing: or you end up executing people who are actually innocent or just political opponents.
  • 3 4
 @KingPooPing: Today's criminal mind doesn't think once. Deterrence isn't respected, only giving zero phux is. We're doomed.
  • 2 7
flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 3:13) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: we're not dooned if we remove them from the gene pool. Also, you don't know anything about Iran
  • 3 3
 @wburnes: since you are commiting a crime in my country with all your hate posts, I guess it means we have the right to remove you from the gene pool.
  • 3 4
 @opignonlibre: I'm only hating on bike thieves, who are a raceless group
  • 6 4
 @wburnes: Nice try to hide your white supremacist jacket but that is not what you were implying.
  • 6 2
 @wburnes: I know that in Iran capital punishment is meted out for petty crimes. If you think that's a fair and just society - move there. Smart beautiful Iranian citizens are getting a raw deal from their 'government' run by hardline theocrats. 'Gene-pool' is a racist dog whistle if I've ever heard one. You are a step away from equating crime to race. It has more to do with socioeconomics than race.
  • 5 2
 @wburnes: hmm culling human populations to control the "gene pool." Wonder who's tried that before? Oh yeah it was Hitler. Just keep outing yourself so we all know what kind of a person you really are.
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flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 12:22) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: socio economics is much less important than you think. Genetics are extremely powerful, and near-determinative in many cases.

Race is genetic, so its only racist in the sense that any mention of race at all is racist. Racism isn't a bad thing either anyway.

Spare me the US State Department talking points about Iran, i beg you.

I don't want to move there
  • 1 5
flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 12:24) (Below Threshold)
 @WildboiBen: if this was ironic, it was funny.

You know who else liked Wagner, dogs, and was vegetarian? Hitler.
  • 5 2
 @wburnes: cool cool none of those things involve killing people. Also who doesn't love dogs? Nice red herring argument. Logic doesn't seem to be your strongsuit but not surprised. You said it in your other comment above yourself. Race is genetic, stealing bikes isn't. So who are you talking about erasing from the gene pool?
  • 1 4
 @WildboiBen: LOL reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit Smile

Erasing bike thieves from the gene pool. How much clearer can one be
  • 6 1
 @wburnes: the fact that you think bike theft is genetically controlled is almost as wild as thinking people should be put to death for theft.
  • 1 6
flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 14:10) (Below Threshold)
 @WildboiBen: Not bike theft specifically, but theft generally. This isn't some wild theory, it's common knowledge. Humans are animals and animals behave a certain way for genetic reasons.

Why not? Its really easy to avoid punishment if you just decide to be a decent person and not steal
  • 4 1
 @wburnes: nature and nurture, buddy. Material conditions contribute a whole lot more than genetics to a person's propensity to steal. That's why poor people are more likely to steal. That goes for the rest of the animal kingdom too. With increasing cognitive complexity learned behaviors become more prevalent than instinctive behaviors. Work on those critical thinking skills and hopefully you'll start to realize why other people find your views so abhorrent. Murdering people over petty crimes is some draconian sh*t. The fact that you have to ask that question also suggests your child-like understanding of ethics. Think about a person who steals to feed their impoverished, starving family - just as an example. Do they deserve to be executed? I hope you realize how terrifying the world that you advocate for would be.
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flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 15:32) (Below Threshold)
 @WildboiBen: "Material conditions contribute a whole lot more than genetics to a person's propensity to steal."

False

"Think about a person who steals to feed their impoverished, starving family - just as an example. Do they deserve to be executed?"

Did I say people that steal food should be executed, or did you just make that up out of thin air?

You call me childish and then hit me with this crap lol

"Work on those critical thinking skills and hopefully you'll start to realize why other people find your views so abhorrent"

Take your own advice

"Murdering people over petty crimes is some draconian sh*t."

Death sentences are not murders. Severe punishment is not unethical.

"I hope you realize how terrifying the world that you advocate for would be."

I do, but it's only terrifying for terrible people, and they deserve that.
  • 4 1
 @wburnes: just because you say "false" doesn't make it true. You have no clue what you're talking about.

A person might steal something so they can sell it to buy food. The point is that people steal when they are poor.

Doesn't matter what terms you use, it's ending a life over a petty crime. You're a disgusting person for thinking that's appropriate. I hope we never meet, a$$hole.
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 @WildboiBen:
'just because you say "false" doesn't make it true.
You have no clue what you're talking about."

I know more about this than you do. You're wrong, lmao


"A person might steal something so they can sell it to buy food"

yeah the team of people casing this van and stealing bikes, and smashing Nekos iPad are definitely starving, not organized crime for profit.

"The point is that people steal when they are poor."

Degenerates steal when society allows them too. They also rape and murder when allowed to.
These aren't downtrodden people struggling to get by who turn to crime out of desperation (it never is).

"it's ending a life over a petty crime"

Good. Society is better off if they die. Predatory criminals are grateful for your misplaced empathy, their victims are not.
  • 4 3
 @wburnes: you made the blanket statement that thieves should be executed and I gave you an example to illustrate why that statement is insane.

Your views are beyond idiotic. It's a shame you can vote.
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 @WildboiBen: No I didn't. Learn to read before you call other people idiots lmao
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 What a bunch of f*ckin’ hippies here.
I’ve got my shit stolen and broken into my house and car five times by now.
I’m curious if you’re still talking the same bullshit if that’ll happen to you.
Steal for food….? How about “work for food”.
If I ever catch a thieve who steals my stuff I’ll treat him so bad he’s not gonna enjoy the rest of his life very much anymore.-
  • 4 3
 @DutchmanPhotos: @DutchmanPhotos: yes, I have had shit stolen or broken into. Still don't think those people deserve death. That view would be considered extremist and barbaric pretty much anywhere. Pretty audacious to call anyone who doesn't support the death penalty for thieves a "hippy."
  • 12 0
 Feel bad about it but I was surprised that there were no news about bikes being stolen in Fort William, well, UK delivered again
  • 8 0
 I don't know if anyone will see this, but Neko posted an update on Instagram. Their spare frames were safe in the van, and component manufacturers have stepped up to get them what they need. He is back home to get some more supplies but they will be fine for the race in Poland! Obviously a huge financial hit and for those mechanics we all know they spend an incredible amount of time refining their tool kit to perfection, that is such a blow to them. But it is awesome to know they can continue the season. He also mentioned a bunch of frameworks customers reached out offering up their frames! The community is amazing.
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 Bike thieves should be waterboarded with diesel fuel.
  • 5 7
 Have them hold a lit sparkler in their teeth at the same time. Highly effective in ensuring they're paying attention.
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flag MTBLegend92 (May 7, 2024 at 17:51) (Below Threshold)
 @ratedgg13: A sparkler is not going to ignite diesel
  • 2 3
 This is silly of course it will. You don’t need extreme pressure to ignite diesel like the autoignition conditions in a diesel engine. You can ignite diesel with a match. Sparklers burn at thousands of degrees.
  • 3 1
 @topherdagopher: it would be extremely hard to light diesel with a match. You’d need to hold the match for a couple minutes for it to hit the flash point
  • 4 4
 Naahhh, AR-15 should do the trick permanently.
  • 1 5
flag ratedgg13 FL (May 8, 2024 at 6:13) (Below Threshold)
 @MTBLegend92: I cant believe I'm having to spell out torture techniques to an American. It doesn't matter whether it actually will or not. Its entirely psychological, just like getting water boarded - they wont ACTUALLY drown, its the feeling of drowning and the psychological impact.
  • 1 1
 @tooFATtoRIDE: That’s far too quick and substantially less fun.
  • 1 4
 @MTBLegend92: you're doing a great job of proving a lot of American stereotypes. Congrats.
  • 2 0
 @ratedgg13: That youtube channel is not based in the USA. The matchbooks are from the Indian subcontinent.
  • 7 0
 A special place in hell is reserved for bike thieves. It’s where they hit them with old cranks and their pointy, sprockets crusted in dirty oil, and where their fingers get shortened daily by rotating disc brakes on the bike stand.
  • 11 2
 Damn I agree bike thieves are the worst, but the number of people who are promoting the expanded use of execution is disturbing.
  • 3 2
 For real. Notice what country they're all from too...
  • 12 1
 air tag everything
  • 6 0
 But pull the speakers out of them. Look it up on YT - it'll buy you a couple more hours.
  • 4 0
 What about some type of air tag chip permanently embedded into the frame of high end bikes? Wouldn't add too much cost or weight.
  • 4 0
 A friend had an Airtag in his town ebike that got nicked and then taken over the border into France (less than half a KM). The French Police were able to pay the scroat a visit and he got his bike back. Apparently, the cops knew that he was up to no good and this gave them a chance to catch him redhanded.
  • 2 2
 as far as I know your phone will let you know some air tag is moving along with you at first, at second signal jammer is around 30 bucks
  • 1 0
 @bok-CZ: Not right away, but you need to act fast. Cars have many more options for hiding spots than bikes (pretty easy to locate a tag within minutes).
  • 1 0
 @suspended-flesh: yeah I mean surely better than nothing, you can have a "luck" and get interest of an amateurs, otherwise access for these tools and gadgets is unlimited and not expensive, just saying
  • 1 0
 @bok-CZ: Yeah, for sure. if they have an Android it takes more effort to know if there's an airtag nearby. Better than nothing for sure. In fact, I think I'lll make sure my car is still where I parked it across town (I bike to work)..........yep, there it is! $25 for a little peace of mind.
  • 12 6
 Always rent a van that is big enough for someone to sleep in the back. And park it against a wall, under a light fitting and CCTV, and ideally get someone else to "park you in".
  • 10 2
 The whole van was stolen.
  • 6 0
 @notthatbryan: Wouldn't the "get someone else to "park you in", take care of the stealing the whole van issue? Unless they stole the car blocking the van too.
  • 1 0
 Ane then leave the van on jack stands and take tires to hotel room
  • 10 3
 Absolutely no surprise here. The UK is partly full of absolute scumbags and the policing is horrendous. What an embarrassing place
  • 7 0
 A lot of times these thieves target vans for power tools. I doubt they even knew what they were stumbling into.
  • 3 0
 So sorry to read this.

MK was an utter $hithole when I lived nearby 30 years ago and has gone downhill since. Thankfully it’s populated mostly by bottom feeders so it’s quite likely they’ll balls things up and reveal themselves and where the kit is.

Fingers crossed for you
  • 5 0
 My grandma kept her bike outside of the house in a German village, unlocked, in plain sight, for many decades. Sounds like a fairytale today.
  • 4 1
 Some people from Basel leave their bike unlocked in case someone wants to borrow it and also use other peoples the same way. With the number of bikes getting stolen here I think they're mad...
  • 1 0
 @korev: It is not mad if people return them.
  • 3 0
 On a sidenote, it's quite surprising that the bike industry never got some lobby campaign going to make bike theft rare again.
Not really for MTBs, but for the commuters, touring and shopping bikes, it's really limiting their business.

For example, GF wanted a shopping bike. We opted for a used $150 bike, only because it will be stolen within two or three years anyways, it's her sixth bike or so.
We even made sure the bike was not stolen already, but purchased new from a local bike shop by the seller.

Otherwise, we'd have been in the market for a nice belt-drive rigid urban bike.
  • 2 0
 Bike theft is a huge problem here in Basel. Some people get their town bikes stolen and eventually stop riding them for the reason you say. I had my cellar door kicked down and a road bike stolen, although the insurance paid out I didn't want to replace it because I was worried the thieves would come back...
  • 2 2
 @korev: the best way to fight this is to promote cycling more.

Right now thieves make a lot of money because people are looking for bikes but once everybody will be equipped, the market will die. Same that happened with smartphones. Barely anybody steal smartphones nowadays because everybody has one already.

Also governments should mandate serial number registration of bikes and people should be asked to verify that bikes haven't been marked as stolen before purchasing and seller to provide a proof of purchase. If more people were asking for proof of purchase, the market would drop a significant bit. That wouldn't limit stolen parts sales but most thieves just want to move stock quickly, so they aren't interested in wrenching bikes.
  • 1 4
 @opignonlibre: people don't steal smartphones as much anymore because they have locks, not due to availability.

These guys aren't stealing out of necessity, they're stealing because they'rejust degenerates
  • 2 1
 @wburnes: They are probably stealing because after a few minor offenses as teenagers and young adults they had a criminal record and couldn't land a job. Every time I applied for a new position, I had to provide a blank criminal record. Thanksfully I didn't do anything stupid as a teenager and young adults but I have a few friends who had close calls and others who had a criminal record, mostly out of rebellion against a society that treated them as bad students, then criminal regardless of their action because of their origin. I don't know how the later are fairing today but I doubt they have the facility I have to find jobs nowadays.
  • 6 1
 Alright everyone, go buy a t-shirt: rideframeworks.com/collections/softgoods
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 Just did, great idea!
  • 2 0
 So So Sorry and embarrassed to be a Brit, so horrible that one of my favourite teams the "people Team" get this in the UK!
Please accept my sincerest apologies from all us Brits for this FW Neko and team.
I hope the UK MTB community is able to track them down for you and that the MTB community in general are able to rally round Frame Works and get you some rides together for Poland and your able to race.
All the best!
Good luck!
  • 3 1
 What a joke this country is, I heard the other day on the news 80million ponunds worth of tool’s and equipment were stolen every year in the uk alone! The criminal justice system is obviously a f*cking joke!
Well done enve!
  • 3 1
 they should post a gofundme to allow us to contribute to help out! With everything amazing they are doing for innovation they are doing, I would absolutely throw $10 to help them out. Perhaps another 100,000 American DH fans will as well?
  • 2 0
 What is wrong with people FFS! Having any bike stolen is bad enough, but we've all seen the work Neko and his team have put into getting this project of the ground, designing, testing and building his own frames. Especially, after taking the win on one of his frames at Fort Bill just days before!
  • 2 1
 This happen every year in multiple stops. I would have thought that the teams would have been more careful and not make it easy for people to drive off the van. This is me thinking out loud not being there but I don't know if the thieves are more sophisticated than some drunken goons.
  • 3 1
 I blame SRAM. they got spanked by Suntour and Fox. Obvious corporate espionage. Or maybe shimano? probably Trek. John Burke used a crowbar in the parking lot with a key bump.
  • 3 1
 Stealing bikes is big business and easy money. Don’t be fooled these people know exactly who to target & are more advanced in there operation than a most realise. There probably reading on pinkbike just as much as you.
  • 1 0
 Did you just make your name up for that comment! Lol
  • 3 0
 I remember when bikes where going missing at BDS events..... Turned out to be another racer...
"Just cos you ride doesn't mean your cool"
  • 1 0
 @naptime: say what?!? I missed hearing that..... I remember one year at Ae Forest if it wasn't locked it was gone, parts were getting stripped off bikes too
  • 1 0
 @themop: deffo remember reading it either here or dirt mag.
There was also that dud that ran hearthill that was caught out doing insurance frauds..
  • 2 0
 **If they have the serial numbers for any of the bikes/frames recorded somewhere, they should register all of them on BikeIndex.org, it's a bit of a longshot, but there's no cost, so worth a shot!
  • 4 1
 Since Specialized is a sub-sponsor perhaps they can kick down some DH bikes as a fill in. Would make them look good and at least keep the team racing.
  • 2 0
 this just hurts...frick. Gotta get these guys back on their bikes for the next round!!! Asa is on fire! heart breaking. Best on luck indeed
  • 3 0
 All of our vehicles and bikes are air tagged because of stories like this. So bummed for Neko and the team
  • 14 10
 To the moderators - how are some of these comments still here?
  • 19 7
 News of bike theft reliably outs the Y'all Qaeda members around here.
  • 3 7
flag wburnes FL (May 8, 2024 at 3:20) (Below Threshold)
 @pmhobson: is yall qaeda supposed to be an insult?
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 @wburnes: Depends on how you feel about human rights, due process, etc, I suppose
  • 3 0
 Another great advert for the UK tourist board. Come to the UK and get your bike stolen!
  • 5 0
 People suck!
  • 2 0
 Shoooot. NEKO GOT ROBBED! placed my FW T-shirt order but if that went into special edition hoodie I'm sure they would sell out. Smile
  • 1 0
 I'm embarrassed to be a Brit at this point. So gutted for Frameworks team for being subjected to such lowlife activity. I've bought a tee shirt anyway to show solidarity and fly the Frameworks flag here in Scotland.
  • 4 0
 !@#$ing trash humans
  • 2 0
 Best of luck to the thieves trying to sell this to anyone except a fellow crackhead.
  • 1 0
 Should be relatively easy to fence the specialized bikes, but gotta think a couple custom small batch non production frames would be harder to hide
  • 5 0
 Scum will most likely strip /sell the components and dump the frames in a dumpster
  • 2 0
 People ride bikes in the UK. Word travels. It won’t be long. Karma will find them.
  • 5 1
 Shoot to kill thieves
  • 3 0
 Seems like a recurring theme when going to Fort William.
  • 2 0
 Same - bought a tshirt to support the cause. Good luck finding the bikes lads
  • 1 0
 I claimed over 30 thousand of bikes stolen back in 2014 and surprise my car insurance reimbursed me I had 5 bikes stolen all over 6 thousand brand new
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 Big teams with big vehicles have mechanics sleep with the gear. Smaller teams this another big hurdle to deal with.
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 Fuuuuck.. let us know if we can support you in any other way my man!!
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 Apparently there’s a stolen Honda frame still not accounted for. Hope these bikes get back to the team.
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 Really? Never heard of that. I remember there being 5 or so in the world. They asked for them all back and crushed them in a crusher at headquarters. There’s only 2 remaining. One at headquarters. And one at Greg Minnaars shop.
This was what I heard from someone very reliable when I was younger. But I was a lot younger so just going off memory
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 @stormracing: they got their van broken into and they took off with some bikes but the team had taken the gearboxes into their hotel room. Martin whitely briefly mentioned it on a podcast with the downtime podcast. Found this also.
m.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=69255
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 @Joe89: Interesting!
Always cool hearing anything more about those bikes
Bummer to hear one got stolen. Hope it gets found someday!
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 It ended up on Ebay years later.
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 Trainspotting characters come to mind in these situations…
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 Great film.
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 @suspended-flesh: if you liked that you should watch "the acid house" then
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 @p0rtal00:

"Three twisted tales of abuse, drugs, displaced personalities, and insect life by Scottish writer Irvine Welsh."

That sounds delightful, but there can be only one Filthiest Toilet in Scotland
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 @suspended-flesh: true, but Spud has the filthiest sheets in Scotland
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 Christian Horner scandal?
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 lets go to the UK and kick some ass
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 Good luck
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 When you coat everything in gold it is going to attract all kinds of magpies.
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 Air Tags folks...they're amazing!
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 Need security systems on these vans whne you're trucking around tens of thousands of dollars in gear
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 Just ordered some Frameworks swag! Let's go!
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 I did the calculations…they lost like $12 million worth of stuff.
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 Just the other day, @justanotherusername asked who still uses Enve products. I suppose the names Nicole and Pierron are also foreign to him
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 It was common to see Enve sponsored teams using blank rims from anther brand. Just like all the sharpied maxxis/conti's.
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 I would use them too if somebody supplied them to me for free, ya big tit.\

Thanks for the rather strange and off topic mention too, you been thinking about me hun?
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flag ceecee (May 8, 2024 at 12:22) (Below Threshold)
 @justanotherusername: you're welcome

@HeatedRotor: ape
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 @ceecee: thats weird, Just informing someone of some information they didnt know and get called an ape.
Guess the IQ of Ceecee isnt above 20.
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 Bastards!
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 I'm just here to for the good old Pinkbike comments.
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 Traveling to Ukraine already ....
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 Yep. Ukraine is exactly the place to sell expensive downhill bikes right now. Just paint them in camo and off they go.
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 @ThrillPhil46: when I was in Lviv last summer there were actually quite a few people hitting the trails within the city, and I watched people train on the velodrome right outside my hotel in Kyiv. People are still out riding. It’s a massive country, not all bombs and trenches. People who enjoyed hobbies to get away in the woods are still enjoying those same hobbies. Resorts and bike parks still operate so people can escape and forget about the shit going on in the rest of their country for a day or two.

I doubt these bikes are going there to be sold. But don’t think of Ukraine as a barren no man’s land, there are people trying to live their lives as normal as possible amongst the shitty situation they are in.
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 @ThrillPhil46: let's not forget the Ukrainian online markets with European bikes. There is also an old pinkbike article about Ukrainian riders.
Here in Italy there have been dozens of complaints from sellers who found their bikes online with the stickers still attached on this famous market (now no longer active www.proday2kolesa.com). An important national TV broadcast a video shot in Ukraine where the bikes were stored in dozens of warehouses and resold on the black market.
www.iene.mediaset.it/video/pelazza-bici-rubate-in-italia-e-vendute-in-ucraina_65821.shtml
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 Rent a transport vault / secured vehicle…how much more can it cost? duh...
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 Why is it not surprising this happened in the UK?
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 Bit like school shootings over there no?
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 @naptime: bike theft, the old world's school shooting?
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 It's the only place that has thieves after all. Robin Hood a.k.a The Prince of Thieves was from there. I'm glad to have visited the US many times to see how it is completely without thieves just like my own country.
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 You guys over the pond are so f*cking lucky not having any crime issues at all...Just imagine that f.ex. in some of your cities at the westcoast people would break into a car to steal a dirty t-shirt or 1,76$ worth of change...
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 @ThrillPhil46: we have crime dont be silly but we just dont steal bikes because f that pedaling a bike is work
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 Well that's stupid
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 Didn't learn the first time then......?
Vans are thief targets
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 huge gut punch
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 Out West we hang horses thieves, I think the same thing should happen to bike thieves.
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 Death to bike thieves
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 Even Jesus would have been a thief if he was using meth like these no good ass clown scumbags. I hope they get what they deserve.
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 Let´s go to Poland,nothing has ever been stolen there!
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 well it is much safer than in the UK so good luck with that!
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 They have good taste. Morals are in hell, but they have an eye for a winner.
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