Troy Brosnan Has Broken His Ankle at Australian National Champs

 When I broke my leg and fractured my ankle pretty bad it was not that painful, add in some race adrenaline can see how it didn't hurt much. What hurt for me was laying down in an ants nest for over a hour waiting for the heli lol

 @UBNC: Yep. I'll take a broken bone over torn ligaments any day - both in terms of pain and recovery.

Actually, come to think of it, I've had gravel rash more painful than two of my breaks.

 I prefer the Tanner Hall approach personally.

 @iamamodel: absolutely! I’m waiting for surgery to replace my acl and mcl after sliding in to a tree at the ski hill. would be almost done recovery by now if it had just been a tib/fib break

 @pacobolo: Same. MOST bone breaks are 8 weeks or so, then some muscle recovery.
ligaments, not so much.

 @iamamodel: depends on which ligaments, outer ankle ligaments don't hurt at all for most people. I tore them riding bmx once, and kept riding, i only thought something was wrong when my ankle turned blue and tennis ball sized in the evening

 @iamamodel: I've broken my back, wrist and ankle. But the worst pain was still tearing my achilles. That's the only one that brought tears to my eyes.

 @scott-townes:

 A kid on a scooter pulled out on me cycling home from work, I went OTB and broke my ankle, a security guard from the shop opposite helped me up. I decided I didn't need an ambulance and cycled (1 foot clipped in) to the hospital a few km away.
It was a great plan until I tried to dismount and fell screaming on my already busy foot outside A&E

 @pacobolo: I wish you the best,I´m still recovering from my ACL surgery. It is slow in some cases but way better than living with a broken one.
I ride my bike,but not so much yet. I´m taking it chill,no need to hurry on the rehab processes. Doing a lot of road bike or long XC rides helps a lot. I started ridding again in the pumptrack last summer,it was a slow process to wake up my knee but it worked really well.

@iamamodel: The moment I broke my ACL was a lot of pain for 5 - 10 seconds,then nothing,then weird numb sensation in the knee...
But days later pain was horrible again,so you get used to pain,I´m still in pain some days 1,5 year later.

 @BorisBC35: Severed my Achilles above the ankle when I was 11. They split and spliced it with stainless wire. Took me out for about a year. Eons later and my double thick tendon is stronger than the other.

 @iamamodel: Ligaments or joint injuries take a ton of time to heal and sometimes don't return to 100%. Standard broken bones can heal back to 100%. When I broke my tibia snowboarding, I walked on it for two weeks because the emergency room doctor did not want to take x-rays. It was a painful, but not as bad as some other injuries I have had.

 @UBNC: I feel for you! I was sitting in a cold, muddy puddle with a broken and dislocated ankle, not feeling any pain or wet I even popped it back in the socket. The level of adrenaline is insane. After three hours trip in the car, I managed to ensure my wife that I was fine in the evening, had three beers, and got to bed. I have managed to walk my daughter to the nursery in the morning and then admit myself into A&E dying.

 @BorisBC35: Was yours a partial tear? When I ruptured my achilles it felt like a big electric shock, but the tear itself didn't hurt much at all.
A couple of hours later when my calf went into spasm was a different story, worst cramp ever and with no tendon attached to the bottom of it there's no way to stretch it out!

 @pacobolo: I did my ACL/PCL/Meniscus DH biking and recovery was longer than my shattered elbow snowboarding, surgery, plates and pins... then collapsing and a second surgery for a prosthetic elbow. I was back on a bike in 3 months after my ACL but just easy riding. Hope yours goes well, do your exercises!

 @dinosaurmonkey: Thanks, I’ve got a surgery date now, so working on ROM and recruitment exercises to go into surgery with as much strength as possible.

 That’s an all time great “you good?”

Calm, curious, and an invitation to talk about what you’re feeling. You know, when you get around to it.

Usually those words mean “I’m catching a lot of feelings right now, so if you could calm me down before you worry about yourself that would be great.” The best is when they yell it before the guy stops. A few elite worriers can get it out before they even hit the ground.

 @Blackhat: First sentence correct. Second wrong. Oh, wait I just reread the last of your post. You do understand but you haven't applied the Australian factor.

 I just feel sorry for Marshall, it seems like he is always so busy at any event and almost needs to be in lots of places at once. You'd think they could get some other people to help him out at races.

 @Blackhat: Did he say "take a seat" in the soothing voice of a psychotherapist? Troy probably gained a month's recovery time just from that vibe.

 @BenPea: “Have a sit, have a sit.” Healing powers right there.

 @RockynCamber: No I got the Australian part. “Feeling” is a pretty broad word, to include physical sensations. There was no risk Troy was going to start talking about his childhood.

 @bigtim: underrated comment gold here

 He was the last rider down so no need to rush.

 He picked a good spot, right in front of 2 race organisers that have carried their fair share of people off the hill.

 Looked like the tree either moved out of the way or momentarily dematerialised to let his head through. Bad luck often seems to come with a dose of good fortune. That could have been way nastier. See you in Fort Bill, Troy.

 Broke my hand a couple of years ago, went to emergency and had surgery that day all via the public system. If the specialist deems it needs surgery it will happen.

 Can't say I've had that experience. I fractured my pelvis in a crash and was being prepared for surgery hours later before a second set of x-ray's deemed it unnecessary. This was the public system and I'm a total numpty-punter.

 Start of covid got helicoptered off a hill with a broken leg and ankle fractures etc, needed a week for swelling to go down and then had surgery. Cost me about $200 all up including the helicopter ride and meds, not sure what you are on about ;/

 "Us Civilians" , if we've got something broken / dangling / bleeding or any other serious injury etc, get into surgery straight away, unless you are out in the boonies (and then, you get taken to main hospitals).

Our system here in OZ is not perfect, nothing is, but it's far better than many others out there. I'm old, with a lot of accumulated damage, having had many, many operations through the decades, and now, other serious health concerns, but I've been treated like a cashed up millionaire through our public system.

 @casey79:
Not always. I broke my ankle and the doctor gave such little concern and consideration despite it drastically needing surgery.

Thankfully I had insurance and got surgery lined up. 12 weeks non weight bearing was not fun though.

Yes, it was in Straya about 8 years ago.

 I waited 4 weeks to have a broken bone in my shoulder repaired because of covid, it just depends on how the injury is classified. Surgeon said he couldn't get away with classifying it as emergent so I had to wait. It sucked because it was possible to dislocate my shoulder if I moved my arm the wrong way.

 US civilians tend to wait for the wheels of the health system too. And that's after paying a sh*t ton just to be part of it!

 I saw an orthopedic surgeon (paying privately) to look at my broken wrist (bill $160 gap). He said I need to pin it ASAP, but he couldn't fit me in, so I went public. Plate inserted next morning (bill $0 Medicare). Bonza!

 I will never complain about our health system after what my dad went through. 1 month in a coma, 6 weeks in ICU and 14 weeks in hospital total. Total bill was $112, because he got pay TV lol!

 @bocomtb: US versus them

 @Brasher: agreed. Our public hospitals are amazing despite operating on a shoe string. My mother had at separate times last year a massive heart attack and later double kidney failure. Total bill was something like $250 for one ride in the green limo. I can’t speak highly enough of the crew at royal Perth hospital, ED, ICU, and CCU. They are gods to me.

 @The-Reverend:

Yes, some Doctors can be absolute w**kers. I've learned that over the decades. A bit of my permanent damage comes from an inept, uncaring, incompetent Doctor, when I was young and not yet as 'forceful' about my health. A useless, uncaring Doctor can be bypassed, you've every right to second and more opinions, with our Public Health Service here in OZ. Know your rights, and Don't take BS or uncaring idiocy from Doctors. They are Not gods, even though a fair few of them, have that viewpoint.

As a side note, I had the highest of health insurance you could have. As a person that partook in MC racing of many sorts, other active sports and DH, over many, many years, I paid that extra over and above our Medicare levies. I felt it was, and is, a responsibility on my part. Funny thing is, I think I used it with only a few of my operations - nearly all of it was done through the Public Health System. And, a couple through my Race Insurance from CA. And, my previous and current battles with The Dancer, and and now with the onset of another serious health problem, have all been under Medicare.

 @Bearorso: The old man claims to have been detrimentally damaged by a surgeon. Whether or that is true is not for me to say. However, the last 7-odd years of his life have been completely f*cked, unable to function properly and lost all of his health and is in a constant state of pain, lost his wife (cancer and treatment denial), and his business (alleged foul play taking advantage of his poor condition).

As (legal) refugee immigrant, he started life in OZ with NOTHING, made a successful life for himself and his family, only to lose it all.

Life is about probabilities and nothing is certain or just-so. Point is, nothing is perfect and anything can f*ck-up at anytime.

 ive been waiting over 5 months on a meniscus scope from a bucket handle tear thats locked my knee up here in canada and i still don't have a surgery date, sounds like i need to move eh

 Recovering here from a ‘nasty’ wrist break in November. Similar dusty Aus conditions made my front wheel slide out suddenly.

after hiking out back to the car park, I rang emergency. The ambulance wouldn’t take me because ‘covid’. I drove myself an hour to hospital.

They re-set it, but had to operate as my ulna was in 3 pieces. After sitting on a plastic chair for 14 hours I had enough & checked myself . went to a private hospital, where they operated on me finally. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone . I’m over $2k out of pocket.

I guess the Pandemic has really shaken the system , because if this had happened s couple of years back I don’t think I’d have had so much trouble .

Anyway good luck, Troy. You’re a legend

 @bravefart: It's real 50-50, depends on the hospital. I broke my back and wrist in 2016 on a Saturday. Went to the nearest hospital and then scanned my back and said, yeah, you're ok. Fixed my wrist up sent me to another hospital to book surgery on my wrist.

On the Monday I said to this surgical doc, "I know the other guys said my back was ok, but it's still really sore". So these guys CT scanned it and found cracks in 4 vertebrae the Saturday night guys had missed.

But year, covid has really f*cked hospitals over right now. Also that's ballsy to drive yourself to hospital mate! I got lucky and another rider drove me to hospital.

 @Brasher: thats pretty amazing.

 multiple post, something went wrong.

 @Brasher: that would bankrupt a good portion of the US population. Good thing we have Go Fund Me.

 @Albatrosse: I think it has more to do with location, I was in Banff and in 3 months but postponed it to 6 so I could finish my season and then did both at the same time because they had a cancelation Left: ACL/PCL/meniscus Right: Scope removal of meniscus. My right is my bad knee now, lol.

 I remember watching one of jacks go pro vids of his worlds (practice?) run from 2020, he was up and running again at speed before my brain had even registered that he had gone down.

 i am worried about the tree too.

 You can't not do the national cup race, though. I can't imagine any racer not wanting his national flag on his arm.

 @jayacheess: yeah, there's a differnece for the southern hemisphere. They get the domestic summer season as a warm up - but that comes with risks as well as rewards.
Brosnan started strong last year, so did Moir. A few years back Sam Gaze exploded onto the XC scene and then couldnt sustain it all year.

 Probably true but he and Connor were within half a sec on seeding run and way up on the rest. That and Connor was on a 180/154 travel bike…

 @Vlad-Putin: wow wonder how she corners with that much extra fork. Apparently not an issue! Lol

 could have

 I'm gonna tell the prime minister, OI MISTER PRIME MINISTER.

 heal up champ.

 @airon: gwin burner account?

 @mi-bike: wish I was gwin’s burner bud.
Hopefully he will take place for the ol team mate.