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Video: Hard Enduro Heavyweight Attempts to Set Fastest Time on the Red Bull Hardline Course

May 28, 2024 at 9:48
by Sarah Moore  

Is a motorbike faster than a downhill mountain bike? Most of the time that's a straightforward question... but what about on the world's toughest mountain bike course?

In 2022, Jackson Goldstone won Red Bull Hardline with the fastest time in history - 2:20:53.

Can Hard Enduro heavyweight Johny Walker beat his time on a bike seven times the weight?


bigquotesAamid the whirlwind of split-second decisions, I have to balance the choice of getting a good time over the risk of crashing. When the race is going well and the ride feels right, I persist forward, undeterred. But when the race is already a technical challenge, I often pause, steady myself, and prepare to strike anew.Johny Walker


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  • 140 0
 As soon as I saw the title I thought to myself, I am not geting any work done for the next 10 minutes or so.
  • 3 0
 ^^ Ditto....
  • 2 0
 Totally.
  • 2 0
 Same here.
  • 2 0
 Betul! Lol!
  • 3 0
 Hands down the coolest video I’ve seen in a while. Owner of the company I work for watched it with me, so I didn’t feel bad lol
  • 1 0
 me too, thrilled
  • 91 1
 Dont give the surron riders any ideas
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flag Matt115lamb (May 28, 2024 at 12:32) (Below Threshold)
 Please do
  • 30 0
 Judging by all the urban surron riders I've seen around it'll be pretty self limiting as they'll attempt it wearing just a baseball cap and a buff pulled up over their face for protection.
  • 50 0
 @bigtim: Shhh....let Natural Selection do it's work.
  • 4 0
 @bigtim: sadly a lot of those are kids whose parents are idiots. we just had one of them get hit in my city, kid ripping around no helmet on sidewalks, got hit at an intersection
  • 2 0
 @rickybobby19: I nearly ran into 2 kids on surrons who were riding up a tight trail followed by their parents……crazy !
  • 66 1
 That just pushed the boundaries of moto. I can't believe how fast he got through the rock garden and slapped those turns
  • 10 33
flag vinay FL (May 28, 2024 at 11:29) (Below Threshold)
 I don't question this is difficult. To me it just looks a whole lot less graceful, probably even less graceful than a mountainbike with pedal assist. Horses for courses I suppose. A mountainbike rider on a deeply rutted MX track wouldn't look pretty either though of course no one will deny it would be exhausting to complete a full lap.
  • 21 0
 I can't believe how fast he rode through the tight sections of the track - insane moto skills.
  • 4 7
 Not really. Did Dave knight “push the boundaries” when he raced Gee Atherton down fort William years ago? It’s a PR gimmick.

Apart from the road gap you would see all the terrain features and jumps at any round of the world enduro series or hard enduro World Series, which walker has won in the past.

Especially in the US go to your local mx track, it’s probably got bigger jumps.

So no i don’t think it’s pushed the boundaries of moto, unless of course you don’t know much about what is already being done on mx and enduro bikes.
  • 1 0
 @cypher74: so cynical, what a waste of breath. Enjoy life, this is it.
  • 36 0
 Crazy thing is he could probably turn around and go back up it
  • 68 0
 I want to see the road gap done backwards.
  • 8 0
 @bigtim: Well maybe not that part Big Grin
  • 33 0
 Jonny Walker did great! Now I want to see how Jack Daniels performs!
  • 12 0
 Yeah,that run gave me the Chivas.
  • 24 1
 Given how much the mtb racers practice the course before laying down those times, I wonder how fast Jonny would be given the same amount of practice?
  • 18 1
 This is the kind of motorbike content I'm here for. GNAR. Recently, another moto rider just raced down some DH course out east. Wish I could find the video. That course was a lot more pedally, and I think the same rider went faster on a moto than he did a DH bike, but didn't go faster than any of the top racers.
  • 3 0
 It was Josh Hill. Great video!
  • 2 0
 Was that Steve Peat vs Dougie Lampkin at Fort William?
  • 2 0
 @CustardCountry: Sure you aren't thinking of Gee Atherton and David Knight?
  • 1 0
 @commental: I’d forgotten about that one.
  • 20 1
 Next challenge.... Unicycle.
  • 3 0
 Is there a chicken line around that big road gap? I wouldn't be surprised if Kris Holm would be able to tackle that course one way or another. He just wouldn't be fastest (or anywhere near).
  • 3 0
 @vinay: you bet. Put him on a 29r unicycle with a disc brake, geared hub, and free wheel and he'd be slaying. Well, he would be shredding on a standard 20 inch unicycle too. As an amateur unicycle rider myself, it really helps you understand how impressive some of the stunts he did really are, and his level of talent. Glad you have heard of Kris Holm. He's underrated.
  • 1 0
 Someone pay my travel cost and I'll attempt any section of that track that isn't a jump on my uni. I think riding it through cleanly once would be a challenge already, no chance to chase any times though..
  • 1 0
 @DrewCoulter: Freewheels are really hard to ride on a uni, Kris doesn't ride one, I tried one and it was nearly impossible to use. He wouldn't need a geared hub for a tech DH, they're better for fast cruising and long flowy stuff.
  • 1 1
 @sanchofula: He can coast though (with his feet on the fork crown). I wonder if he can hit a double like that though. But he can definitely get quite some speed through coasting.
  • 1 1
 @vinay: Coasting on a freewheel is better and more versatile than doing it with your feet on the fork crown.
There is potential for jumping doubles further on a freewheel than on a fixed wheel, but as it stands, no one does. The advantage of potentially more speed and having your feet guaranteed to be horizontal on take off comes with the disadvantage of balancing being harder. Fixed wheel gives you more gradual control to make sure your balance is where it is supposed to be when taking off.
(I own both a freewheel and a fixed unicycle)
  • 1 0
 @finnspin: Oh yeah, I can definitely see the advantages of a freewheel compared to coasting with feet on the crown. I just haven't seen Kris Holm ride like that. As for me, I'm nowhere remotely close to riding anything like that. I ride a KH24, can ride dirt trails and all, but nothing that would get me down a trail like that.
  • 13 0
 Pretty insane how well he controls his speed. I like, very nice (borat voie)
  • 10 3
 Those tires must generate massively more grip than mtb ones. I think the final verdict about plus size tires in DH is not spoken yet.
  • 5 0
 @SickEdit: for emtb they work well, because you can have thick casings, big lugs and weight doesn't hinder you as much, and that's the bottom line, plus size tyres are great if the weight penalty for making them tough isn't a problem. Trying to make them light and big just ends up flimsy.
  • 8 0
 @SickEdit: Big difference here is a moto weights several hundred pounds and 1" tread lugs will sink into the soil and hook, where on a 30-40 lb mtb they would make a bike squirmy and damm near unrideable at speed.
  • 1 3
 @gnarnaimo: It's not several hundred pounds. Couple hundred and a bit. My mx bike weighs 220lbs. A factory enduro bike probably weighs just a bit more.
  • 1 0
 @SickEdit: Moto tires definitely produce more grip. More weight forcing taller lugs into the ground over a larger footprint.
  • 3 2
 @Ih8Hondas: Enduro bikes tend to weigh around 250 lbs, I just use the word several for anything more than one. I suppose I should have said 'a couple and a bit', just doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely though.
  • 2 0
 @SickEdit: Rolling resistance + rim width make a difference for mtb. The moto Is always under power so that's never an issue. As far as rims go, a motos wide af rims give the fat tire a lot more stability, it'd be necessary to have extremely wide rims to support them on an mtb. This means not only do you need more clearance but you need more structurall strength which means more width and the hub and a lot more weight over all.
  • 2 0
 @SickEdit: He can create traction with his gas handle. That's a feature most mountainbikers don't have.
  • 13 0
 Anyone that rides moto knows how gnarly this is on a moto, especially a hard enduro setup (i.e., soft). Super impressive
  • 3 2
 He's a factory Beta rider. I'm sure they stiffened his stuff up a bit for the air time, while still leaving it soft enough to not hinder performance in rock gardens too much. If you listen to the PulpMX podcast, you've probably heard them talking about how amazing factory suspension is. Can be softer at the top and at the same time, far stiffer once into the travel than anything you can buy.
  • 1 0
 totally, I am thrilled.
  • 7 0
 I'm genuinely impressed that he made it down some of that as well as he did.
  • 7 0
 Best content I’ve seen in a while. Johnny walker is a magician on that dirt bike.
  • 4 0
 This was rad. I'd do several of those jumps on a moto but would never attempt anything close to as big on an mtb. Not the whole course or the blind drops but the jumps for sure. I have way more experience on motos though. I guess it's all what you are used to? He was spoiled in the woods because you don't normally have bermed corners on moto woods trails and certainly not where he is used to riding. Johnny could climb that entire trail as well. He'd find a line and pick it apart. Technical hill climbing on a moto is so damn fun.
  • 6 0
 Am I the only one that held their breath on his first drop attempt? Could have sworn he was short.
  • 1 0
 Also I've hurt myself pretty bad riding a moto on wood planks, gotta have precise throttle control
  • 5 0
 I’m a fan of hard enduro. that was fun to watch. this edit could just help with expanding the possibilities of what a moto track could incorporate at the elite level of mx.
  • 4 0
 It may be apples and pears, but it’s kinda cool to see that a MTB course would get someone as good of a MX rider as JW properly scared.
  • 3 0
 Not just any old trail mind you
  • 2 0
 9th. If anyone actually went back and looked at the times from 2022. Funny how that is not mentoned anywhere. He did NOT podium. One of the wildest things I've ever seen. I actually clapped when he crossed the line. Dog gave me a funny look lol.
  • 4 0
 That was incredible. How he handled those turns and steep tech sections is mind-blowing.
  • 4 0
 Just a casual dirt bike ride... no big deal!
  • 1 0
 I'm super impressed at his pace through the forest and rock sections, way faster than I originally anticipated before watching it seeing how steep and tight some of those corners are.
  • 3 1
 Yeah I definitely thought that was Matt Jones the whole time until Rob said something at the end.
  • 1 0
 The older they get the more they look the same!
  • 2 0
 Can we all just agree that his name is Jonny?

And yes, this run was mental!
  • 2 0
 This is the most unanimously positive DH related comment section I’ve seen on PB in ages
  • 3 0
 That was pretty insane.
  • 4 2
 Some moto ruts should make it even harder this weekend, nice. /s
  • 2 2
 Except they won't be on the same course.
  • 1 0
 @Muckal: same course. Only the boggy top section was different. The one to take out Grandad and BK. 99% the same from the wood section.
  • 2 0
 Controlling a Dirt Bike downhill like that was legit!!!
  • 2 0
 Between this and the Sleeper Co edit, it’s been a really good week
  • 1 0
 Warner commentating who did one of the original DH bikes vs, when he raced Malcolm Wilson who was in a rally car.
  • 2 0
 Wow…. Nuts
  • 1 0
 That was unreal, amazing skills
  • 2 0
 thats good content
  • 1 0
 insane, I didn't think it was possible! amazing skills
  • 1 0
 I'd love to see Rampage on a dirtbike too!
  • 1 0
 Get Mani and/or Billy to have a go........
  • 1 0
 I was wondering why the trail was so ripped up! No wonder.
  • 1 0
 Who said long bikes can't turn, eh? Wink
  • 1 0
 F'n gnarly!!!
  • 1 0
  All smiles!!!!
  • 1 0
 So cool.
  • 1 2
 This was rad! Would love to see Travis Pastrana have a go, tvat would be NUTS!
  • 2 2
 Okay only for the show, but please keep motorbikes away from mtb trails...
  • 1 0
 Such a cool video.
  • 3 5
 Bring back Warner to comment DH World Cup!
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