First Look: The New Unno Burn Looks Absolutely Wild

Jun 7, 2022 at 12:09
by Seb Stott  

Unno aren't afraid to stand out from the crowd. In fact, that's something they pride themselves in.

The all-new Burn is their latest creation. And while the original Unno Burn has been around for a long time, the new version has been in development for four years and is a very different beast.

"I wanted this long travel machine to have a hard-hitting attitude," says Cesar Rojo, Unno's founder and engineer, "able to shred some local trails and to always ask myself "Where is my full face helmet?"."




The Details

The Burn rolls on mullet wheels only. As an enduro bike, it sports 160 mm at the rear with a 170 mm fork. The suspension design uses a pair of short links which rotate in the same direction as the suspension cycles, just like Unno's other bikes. In this case, the lower link is mounted concentric to the bottom bracket. Details are scant on the suspension kinematics, but the recommended sag is 35%, suggesting a progressive design.


At the rear of the upper rocker link is an asymmetric bolt washer which looked to me like a flip chip. I asked Cesar about this and it turns out I was wrong. "Actually, is not a flipchip but to avoid axles getting loose", he tells me. "No need to put second bolts, or lots of Loctite. Actually, on the test bikes we just put grease in the threads and bolts do not get loose."

The Burn joins a growing list of bikes with a storage compartment hidden in the downtube for snacks or spares.
Another modern trend: the cable routing runs through the headset.

The eagle-eyed amon you may have also spotted the seat mast, which appears to have been taken from a 17th-century sailing ship. About this, Cesar commented: "So yep, it also features some "why-the-hell-this-seat-tube" aesthetics."




The Geometry

There are three sizes offered, designed to fit everyone from 160 cm to 200 cm (5′ 3″ to 6′ 7″). The chainstay length is long-ish at 445 mm and the head angle sits at a moderate 64-degrees across the board. One number which does stand out to me is the head tube length (145 mm) and stack height (670 mm) in the S3 size. That's taller than most Xl or XXL frames, which should provide rangy riders with a comfortable position without a high-rise bar or a tower of spacers, and in turn, will make the reach feel a little longer than the 510 mm number would suggest.




The Specs

Fox Factory suspension and Crank Brothers wheels are to be expected on an Unno. Unno's own Deux one-piece carbon cockpit saves a few grams and looks trick. It's 800 mm wide with the equivalent of a 40 mm stem. SRAM GX AXS gearing may not be the fanciest but it does the job well. Cesar couldn't tell me the weight of the frame right now, but he says the weight of the complete bike is about 14.7 Kg (32.4 lb).

Maybe my perception of bike prices has been warped, but if I were to guess the price of this boutique machine I would have said a little more than 7,795€. You can pay more than that for something a lot less head-turning.

For more information check out unno.com.




252 Comments

  • 410 38
 Another useless bike with headset cable routing. I don’t care how good a bike is, headset cable routing is a 100% deal killer for me on any bike. Maybe others have, but I’ve never thought about external cable routing a single time while riding.
  • 98 3
 Show off your cables! RAAW pride!
  • 51 1
 100% agree. |The eat tube is ugly, but it still works. Deliberately sabotaging the headset can f*ck of though
  • 13 0
 its a conspiracy by now. clearly
  • 42 5
 @st-lupo: I like the GG set up. A little door that you can put on or leave off. Internal routing is stupid.
  • 39 0
 There's an Antidote for that.
  • 48 3
 Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally against headset cable routing but I would like to hear from people who actually have lived with this set up on if it’s really that big of a deal or not. Just out of curiosity. You will get down voted like crazy if you say it’s not that big of a deal because that is not an approved thought, but I still would like to hear from you.
  • 23 0
 External routing with optional internal routing at some point after the head tube is what we need. Via the headset needs to burn in hell.
  • 40 0
 We took headset cable routing made out of plastic, probably no internal cable channels, an integrated seat clamp and chain guide, shock hard to reach and right in front of the tire which *might* spray dirt, handlebar-stem-combo.

We combined that with short reaches/long seat tubes and short droppers and made it somewhat expensive.

What´s missing to create the worst servicable bike of all times?
Tell us in the comments Wink


enduro-mtb.com/exklusiver-test-unno-burn-race-2022-enduro-bike
  • 1 0
 Do the cables really go through the headset?
  • 16 0
 @PHX77: I watched my lbs mechanic curse every single deity of the past 5000 years just to add a headset spacer. No, thanks.
  • 9 0
 @JohSch: there are so many negatives with this bike. It’s like they went with the old “they decided they could but didn’t ask if they should” line.

I think we should also probably realise that sadly none of those negatives will really matter to the target buyers of this bike.
  • 22 0
 @JohSch: @JohSch: Shock is still too easy to access and there’s no proprietary climb switch on the bars with its own cables. It’s a solid effort but Scott is still at the bleeding edge in the “impossible to service” game.
  • 1 0
 totaly agreed, to complicated for finaly... a bike that you sees the cables!
  • 13 0
 @Drew-O: Creating the really least serviceable bike would be a sweet idea for Pinkbike´s next own bike? Big Grin
  • 8 0
 Burn it
  • 18 0
 Agree.
I wouldn’t buy another bike with headset routing.
Total PITA. Cables rub on steerer, nightmare to swap out rear brake, nightmare to swap out headset bearings. Forget it.

Props to Transition for still doing external rear brake!
  • 8 0
 Once AXS brakes come out this will be a thing of the past.
  • 5 0
 @rich-2000: I hope the headset routing from their ebike doesn't make it's way to the rest of the lineup...
  • 25 4
 @PHX77:
Owner of a Focus Sam 2 here.
Had the bike 6 months, headset felt rough. Had a quick look to realise (my assessment) water had made its way down the cables and on to the headset. Rusty water inside. Headset cheap, not sealed and plastic cup (now hate Acros forever). Purchased new headset, stem , frame cable gromits and spacers. Luckily all cable lengths worked out.

Interestingly (or so I found out) manufacturers are using a zs56 at the top as well as the bottom, this allows the cable to pass inside. Not many manufacturers do them. Acros, cane creek and superstar. So availability was an issue for me.

I think the only cable that should be internal is seat post otherwise external for me.

Down votes for buying an ebike accepted
  • 9 0
 @rich-2000: Except Transition did the stupid headset routing on their moped.
  • 7 0
 @PHX77: ?? A PB review of a bike with headset routing generates complaints from owners or users of bikes with that inherently inferior design. The real world complaints seem to focus on difficulty of adjusting stem height, and premature failure of bearings.
  • 3 1
 This bike is eye-catching without even considering cable routing. I don't find cables unsightly.
  • 3 0
 No X'up.. No interest
  • 11 0
 @PHX77: it sucks. My road bike had this. I had to disconnect and bleed my brakes to change a headset spacer. I sold it because of this and got a different bike that routes through the downtube. This routing in mtbs can get bent.
  • 7 0
 The 'plastic' cups also seem to like to crack on people in use. Injection moulded headcups should be seen as nothing more than they are - a cost saving exercise, there is no other benefit and is an especially large joke when we consider its the higher end of MTB's they are being fitted to. Acros seem to be the 'in brand' now producing these types of ridiculous headsets that dont seem to be getting any praise at all from actual customers.
  • 4 0
 @mods: Hope I don't get banned for spamming. If it is inappropriate, please do tell.

This link is on topic though. Read it in Google translate and you'll get the julist . Enjoy!
www.velozine.nl/specials/evilzone-kabels-door-je-balhoofd-wat-een-achterlijk-idee
  • 6 0
 @PHX77: Have you ever needed to change a headset bearing? Any time you need to service something in there, you'll need to cut the brake line.
  • 1 0
 Edit: NVM
  • 1 19
flag Uchwmdr (Jun 8, 2022 at 9:13) (Below Threshold)
 Such a lame comment. You wont ever get this gorgeous bike anyway. It is a masterpiece that souls like you would never undersand and appreciate.
  • 2 0
 @Notmeatall: Or even if you just need to change a headset spacer!
  • 7 0
 I like how NS did it with the Define range. Cables are routed externally in a channel underneath the downtube. You can't see it from the side but it's still easily accessible. It's as if someone put some thought into this.

s14761.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NS-Bikes-Define-Carbon-MTB-News-3-von-22-810x540.jpg
  • 3 0
 @PHX77: I've had I friend with headset cable routing and from him I have heard that it makes trivial maintenance 10x harder and makes everything wear out far quicker. The fork tube would wear his brake and shift cables out so fast that he almost broke a brake hose.
  • 3 4
 @kopaczus: I hate that system for 1 reason. Flying rocks will murder you brake housing. Before anyone comes to tell me that flying rocks don't exist I will tell you from experience that I have dented an alloy frame and decimated my carbon hardtail both from sharp flying rocks.
  • 1 0
 @JonRides:

Ha, yea you’re right. Good job thats the only transition bike I wouldn’t happily own!
  • 1 7
flag nickmalysh (Jun 8, 2022 at 11:08) (Below Threshold)
 why? how often do you work on cables or headsets as such? 1 or twice per year? unless you are doing barspins, I do not see why it is wrong or needs to be external? even with barspin set up, you do it once.
  • 5 0
 @healthy-not-sick-biker @kopaczus Tailgate shuttling will ruin them too.

Best is external routing along the top of the downtube. If you MUST have hidden cables, I also like GGs removable panel approach.
  • 1 1
 @kopaczus: I had this under the top tube on an old Commy hard tail. Even under the top tube it was a mud trap!
  • 3 0
 @healthy-not-sick-biker: nah, it's recessed into that channel in the frame. I'd say they're all sitting pretty safe in there. Nothing ever happened to mine.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: it won't, they're recessed.
  • 2 0
 @naptime: agree, it's a downside, but something I'm totally willing to live with. Give it a good spray of water and it's all gone.
  • 3 0
 Its almost like they went, what is a mechanics absolute least favorite part of areo road bikes, and then said lets put this on a mountain bike.

Agreed absoluely the worst design, i dont care what engineering BS is behind it, putting your brake cables in a tight space, in the middle of a steering mechanism is doomed to be a nightmare. If someone want me to do anything on this it would be a minimum $100 surcharge just for the pain in the ass it is going to be..

ps, shock looks like its going to have a hard time with that kinda leverage.
  • 7 2
 Fuck this stupid idea, fuck the designers responsible, and fuck the product managers who sign off on it. I have to deal with this at work as wrench at a shop selling a wide range of bikes, including quite a lot of aero road bikes. At least they make some sense there, though. On mountain bikes they literally make NEGATIVE sense - they are a step backwards, for no benefit, in every possible respect.
  • 1 0
 @nickmalysh: @brandon-d I think one of the issues that someone else also stated earlier is that the bearing quality from Acros is absolute garbage. So of course they need to be replaced often. I'd love to see if a system that has better sealing and better bearings would not have problems.
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: My previous gen Canyon Torque and the previous Spectral had routing under the full length frame protection that also finished the shape of the tube. The most elegant and easy routing i've ever used. Looks of internal, ease of external. Bummed that the new one doesn't have it Frown
  • 1 4
 @jadias: I don't understand the problem, assuming you charge for the time you spend working on the bike... Surely for a shop that's a win, because you get to justifiably charge £60 + parts to replace a gear cable?
  • 1 0
 @jadias: 'literally make Negative sense'

To quote the great Father John Misty:

And the malaprops make me wanna f*cking scream
I wonder if she even knows what that word means
Well it’s literally not that
  • 3 0
 I would bet a poorly routed unno bike, that Acros give away their silly proprietary headsets to manufs for nothing, so that they make loads of money from punters when the lower bearing fails every 2 months through water ingress.
  • 1 0
 Agreed. I didn’t think I’d hate cable routing in headset but after owning the new Scott Spark I’ll never do it again. Same as if you are going to sell a high end bike in carbon it needs internal tubes to feed cable. Cable rattle should not be a thing for high end carbon bikes.
  • 2 0
 @jmhills: i agree, the GG solution is genous
  • 2 0
 @Afterschoolsports: one positive is that you don’t have to worry about getting your head stuck in the frame. That’s a huge win for everyone.
  • 2 0
 @jadias: Agreed, there are at least 12 weaknesses to internal headset routing, and any benefit is debatable.

www.pinkbike.com/u/DoubleCrownAddict/blog/headset-cable-routing-needs-to-stop.html
  • 1 0
 don't forget that crazy long seat tube mast... what the???
  • 1 0
 @rich-2000: You might be onto something there pal #BigHeadset #ConspiracyTheory
  • 1 0
 @PHX77: got a Canyon XC rig with it, combined with shitty Across quality it was a nightmare.
  • 2 0
 @Tambo: Well, there in lies one of the issues; in a world of increasing costs, how many customers are going to think £60 plus parts to change a gear cable (a £15 or whatever job on almost any other bike) is “A Good Thing”?
For the shop, you’re now stuck doing extra work to change a headset bearing/spacer, when you could perhaps have more usefully or profitably spent that time elsewhere in store, or on another customer’s bike. In a given time frame, it’s generally better (from a variety of perspectives) for a shop to get through multiple repairs vs sinking extra time into a single one. It’s particularly galling to think that the extra time requirement has come about because a brand manager somewhere couldn’t bear to see a few inches of exposed hose on an MTB.
Mechanics generally dislike it, and I think most customers buying into it will soon learn to one way or another…
  • 2 0
 @Corinthian: I don't disagree with you; I think most forms of internal routing are only added hassle really. But I do think a prospective customer should consider maintenance costs when buying a bike, especially if they won't be doing it themselves. I sort of stand by my point though that a bike shop should charge what they need to charge for a job, so that one big repair will make the same money as 4 small ones on average.
  • 3 0
 @PHX77: so I’ve lived with it for the last 3 months on the 22’ Scott spark. It’s a headache and I’ve decided I’ll never deal with the cable routing like that again. Also idk if it’s the spark specifically but the cable rattle is horrendous! The spark is actually already for sale! I love how the bike rides but the cable routing through headset and the horrible cable routing I’m thinking because of it has driven me to sell the bike.
  • 3 1
 Rules to live by:
1. NEVER buy a headset cable-routed bike. Don't encourage them.
2. Full external routing is always better than internal routing
3. If you really love the clean look of internal routing, you better also be riding a Yeti with AXS shifting/dropper (reduces the number of cables), ENVE rims, and have your own personal bike mechanic on-call.
  • 1 1
 @hamncheez: apparently it is not a bile for you average customers who just buy a bike to ride it as much as possible and trash it for less than a year. It is a butique bike that is built to deliver a certain type of performance and phenomenal looks. This bike is art. Only a limited amount is produced per year. Cant understand why you guys think every bike on the planet is aiming at pleasing you.
  • 2 0
 @PHX77: want to change a headset or remove forks for a service? Need to disconnect all the hoses, cables and wires that travel through it. Also it quickly wears a groove in your steerer, less than 100 miles, have seen significant grooves carved by cables
  • 2 0
 @Uchwmdr: But this is pinkbike (where bikes are ridden hard and put away wet), not blingbike.com
  • 3 0
 @Uchwmdr: Of course every bike isn't made to please me, but it's becoming increasingly common for a lot of the new bikes coming out to have headset routing. Whether customers like it or not. Just like it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a high end bike that Doesn't have electronic shifting. I had no say in the matter. The bike companies are choosing to design and build their bikes a certain way.
  • 115 1
 Mr goldboner I was expecting you
  • 14 58
flag FarmerJohn (Jun 8, 2022 at 5:43) (Below Threshold)
 a 12 year old has joined the chat
  • 6 0
 Word. Girth comments are forthcoming, I'm sure.
  • 21 0
 I heard the seatmast was actually the product of an unfortunate schmelting inshident
  • 69 0
 Guess I have to wait 3-5 years for all this headset cable routing to come and go…hopefully
  • 14 24
flag nurseben (Jun 8, 2022 at 5:59) (Below Threshold)
 … or to become the standard and we stop caring so much.

If you work on your own bike, internal anything is a PITA.
  • 16 0
 @nurseben: There are vast differences in internal routing serviceability.

internal guided vs opening and try to find a way yourself f.ex.

These new headset routed bikes often or always combine that shitty new headset with the "opening and try to find a way yourself" internal routing, so its a step back to like 2015.
  • 13 3
 @nurseben: Both of my internal routed bikes are easy to work on. I would actually say that the internal on my XC bike is EASIER than external. Just push the cable housing all the way through until it appears on the other side, no zip ties, clips, no damage when riding, etc. My enduro bike is only slightly harder, and about as hard as any external I have had.

Neither go through the headset though.
  • 2 9
flag SATN-XC (Jun 8, 2022 at 8:13) (Below Threshold)
 3-5 years, everything will be wireless...routing will be a non-issue
  • 4 0
 @SATN-XC: Nah man. There's a ton of people who absolutely hate the idea of having anything electric or battery powered on their bike. I'm not one of them, but I think that in the forseeable future wireless shifting will remain a niche product. Also there's the question of price as a barrier to entry. Even GX AXS is still super expensive compared to Deore.
  • 4 0
 @Muscovir: I totally agree and I'm with you....it just seems the industry has a way of forcing things on us regardless of whether or not we want them (example...the headset routing). I always get a kick when someone in my riding group with wireless shifting forgets to charge their derailleur battery and they go from a 12 speed to a single speed halfway through the ride.
  • 1 0
 @SATN-XC: how exactly do you forsee an electrical brake system? The hydraulic part of the brakes is what makes the magic happen. Do you think we'll really do away with hydraulic tech and replace it with a to-be-determined non-hydraulic solution? You're tripping bro.
  • 3 0
 @uh-no: haha, i hear you....I have no idea, just making a snarky comment about the current tends in the bike industry. Would I trust my braking to a battery...absolutely not....will someone likely create remote braking, probably. I'm sure it can be done if there is some kind of cockpit warning system concerning battery life
  • 58 3
 Looks like my wife's city bike
  • 22 3
 Now you can ride a Unno wearing a skirt
  • 8 0
 All it needs is a basket and handlebar streamers.
  • 3 0
 looks like that fugly Ellsworth they never released. Concentric BB pivot too.

p.vitalmtb.com/photos/products/22777/photos/34503/s1600_Ellsworth_Truth_Convert_Red.jpg?1524757523
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: Just look at the new Tri bike from CADEX and it doesn't look that bad anymore!

www.triathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/5P5A4037.jpg
  • 1 0
 @Repmuj7: ahead of the curve
  • 47 0
 I think I cracked that seat tube junction just by looking at it too hard.
  • 1 0
 as someone who just had that happen...that was my first concern upon seeing this bike
  • 5 0
 This is just the most exceedingly dumb design. That seat mast will crack. Definitely. So many other brands try to get away with cool sloping top tube bullshit and then run a big seat mast knob. They flex and break. Regularly. Non-functional design for cool internet points.
  • 19 0
 Sizing seems a bit off... S1: 435mm reach with 435mm seatpost length? That's a small reach for someone like me at 5'7". S2 reach is a better, but that 460mm seatpost length is way too long for me.
  • 9 0
 This suspension layout makes it hard to use longer droppers on short STs, so at least they do not pretend that you can size it down. The worst thing is a super sort ST which you cannot actually use because even 150mm post can never slide into completely.
  • 6 1
 Not telling you what to ride but 435 with a pretty high stack seems totally ok for a 5.7 rider. Reach is nothing without stack. I am pretty sure 470 with high stack is too big for you. I am 5.11 and 470 with high stack is almost too big for me.
  • 3 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: Yes, you're right. Stack is quite high on this bike so it compensate for the smaller reach, although I still think that the seat tube could have been a tad smaller.
  • 2 0
 @jurassicrider: at 470 reach i have found, that 420 Seattube is pretty perfect for me, so yes St is long.
  • 1 0
 That’s a perfect or a little long reach for me who is 5 7
  • 27 8
 It's one of the ugliest bikes I have ever seen. The internal headset cable routing is just a pain in the ass for anyone that needs to work on that bike.
  • 3 1
 Also - with those one piece integrated stem/handlebar combo things how on earth do you adjust the angle?
  • 3 0
 @Zach1977: You don't...
  • 17 0
 Might look good from afar, but that plastic cable port thingy is hideous!
  • 2 0
 Good from far but far from good
  • 23 11
 It is so incredibly disgusting looking. You can see where they were like "Derrrrr fork gold seatpost go gold like fork. Now match, now look good." It looks like a child's concept drawing for a walmart ladies full suss from 1994. Its disgusting looking. Sorry.
  • 30 0
 I don't think you really are sorry.
  • 6 0
 Tell us how you really feel.
  • 3 0
 point on the dolly
  • 11 0
 Absolute shit cablerouting. Can we please go back to as mich external routing as possible? I don't want to spend so much time with that crap just because someone wants it to look sleeker. It's a tool for a job. First comes function, then ease of maintenance and only then we can talk about looks.
  • 4 0
 And I find the looks not even good. But that is subjective
  • 2 0
 Transition bikes with external brake and GX axs is killer. Shame the bikes ride like bricks as they refuse to up their progression but yet call it giddy up lol. They are a far better bike with the cascade link.
  • 2 0
 @HeatedRotor: 100% - absolutely hated the Sentinel i had - its called an all mountain bike but its slackness with lack of rear support make it great for going down stupidly steep stuff but wasnt much fun anywhere else and would suddenly wash out on you if you wernt sitting on the bars.
  • 10 0
 I bent / broke 2 of those "seat-mast" styled frames back in the day. Maybe tougher now but they still give me nightmares.

Nothing like the feeling of you're frame getting longer and slacker as you round out a corner on a trail. Wink
  • 13 0
 Holy seatpost tower Batman!
  • 10 1
 The price is somehow reasonable...I mean in comparison with other bikes and brands. But to me this bike just looks wrong. From every angle.
  • 4 0
 Their frames are not made in Europe anymore. See the press releases for the latest ebike.
  • 10 0
 Apparently 2022 is the year where an $8500 bike with a GX drivetrain became "reasonably priced."
  • 2 0
 @toast2266: I'm totally with you here. This why I compared the price to other brands and bikes with similar parts. Of course this is still a lot of money.
  • 11 1
 1=no bottle mount
2=ugly AF
3=headset madness
4=price tag
5=exterior rear brake lines only for me
  • 9 2
 I was drooling until I read Mullet-only. That's a poor choice. Speaking as someone who used to run mullet, I've gone back to full 29. Full 29 is unquestionably faster for the majority of enduro riding.
  • 5 1
 Especially with long chainstays. No real point to mullet with chainstays longer than 440mm
  • 20 11
 Mama mia that is beautiful. Definitely doesn't look like a session
  • 12 0
 Mama mia, here we go again, my my how can I resist a Session comparison?
  • 6 0
 @scott-townes: Mamma mia, does it show again, my, my, just how much I've missed a Session comparison?
  • 2 2
 Looks like an Intense but missing the ST strut
  • 3 0
 more like Devinci Wilson sci-fi model
  • 1 0
 Ever seen a 2006 Session 10? This still kinda looks like that session. Big Grin
  • 10 1
 I can finally hit the trails with my skirt! Thanx Unno!
  • 5 0
 seat tube length are ridiculously long, 435mm on a small is crazy, i wouldnt be able to touch the ground. for comparison, my medium Sentinel is 400mm. Not that I care that much as I wouldnt buy this bike but seems like they're a bit out of touch on that geo.
  • 1 0
 My 2017 commencal has a 490 seat tube with 440 reach.
  • 5 0
 "a pair of short links which rotate in the same direction"

What is the obsession with the direction the links rotate? It means nothing. So many times it has been pointed out (in articles/reviews, not just comments) that the gross details, especially on any virtual pivot design (Horst-like, VPP, DW, etc) of a suspension design mean almost nothing. It's the fine details, the exact pivot locations, the exact linkage lengths, etc, that make the differences. Co-rotating or counter-rotating links tells literally nothing important.
  • 1 0
 it tells you that the writer used to ask the teacher what was the homework 5min before class ended
  • 2 0
 It allows me to visualise the suspension moving. From which I gain nothing.
  • 15 8
 Can't help it, but the rear end looks very flexy. But besides that, this is a bikeporn. Truly an art.
  • 1 0
 Why does it look flexy to you?? The distance between the upper and lower links is relatively moderate and there are no detailed images of the links, but it does look quite solid, even potentially super stiff, with the BB attachment.
  • 7 0
 Would love to see the FEA/stress analysis on this one to prove it's not just a designer having free reign...
  • 2 1
 No analysis needed. This is a fundamentally flawed design.
  • 1 0
 @IntoTheEverflow: If you refer to the seat tube I disagree, carbon allows something like this, a few grams could be saved with a higher anchoring point but it does look nice. It's just too damn long though.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: Not saying it will break, but it takes more than a few grams, even with carbon.
  • 4 0
 Expectation: Ok guys lets build a totally new bike from the scratch with the latest technology and come up with a new design the world has never seen bevor.

Reality: Bruh just load a Canyon DH frame and Mondraker enduro frame into your CAD, make the seat tube a bit longer, twist it hear and there and et voila no one will notice.
  • 2 3
 It's got nothing to do with any of those and it's actually a nicely thought out and structurally elegant design, except for some terrible details like the cable entry points.
  • 4 0
 I actually like the design, its totally out there progressive wise. The geometry is a bit limp though. Short reach, long chainstays and slack seat angle not my cuppa But the killer for me is the cable routing. That a definite no no.
  • 8 1
 You will BURN after a couple miles climbing with no water bottle.
  • 8 1
 No water bottle mount? Deal breaker.
  • 4 0
 I sure feel like this bike is trying so hard to stand out that they sidestepped all reason in favour of design - and the end result doesn't even look that good. Different, sure, but not good. Hard pass from me.
  • 3 0
 This bike would warrant an interview with the designer. I'm sure we all have lots of questions about the durability of the headset cable routing since most of us don't have many headset issues anymore. And of course the seat tube: I would love to know how he got here, the shapes, strength vs length. I've got a 36" inseam and this seat tube gives me a concern, but maybe that's unwarranted. It's a huge bladed thing which seems like a really strong configuration but all that leverage drives down to the blades of the shock tunnel, which doesn't seem as good. Please interview him! We have questions. I want to love this thing.
  • 3 0
 I'll be the lone dissenter and say: THIS LOOKS FANTASTIC!!!! I love it! And Enduro mag makes it sound even better. For you folks in Euroland (or currency experts) what's it cost sans VAT?
  • 2 0
 What part of "we want tidy external routing" do brands not understand? - simple concept but they all go "we like, you deal with"
Transition Are super close but need to adapt to modern progressiveness... they make bikes for the avg joe but the bike wants to ride double black tech all the time
  • 1 0
 Yep - that was my pain with my transitions
  • 5 0
 looks impossible to set the shock up.
  • 1 0
 From a design point of view I can understanding why they did this bike. As u user, I can't understanding why they did this. At the moment there are 7 cables coming from my handlebar on my cannondale. If you don't use sram, then there is no way this bike will work. If you have remote lock-out on your suspention, where are the cables going? Non-adjustable handlebars are useless. The whole headset thing is idiotic on mtb's. No bottle mount and a storage thing nobody can reach. This is your typical golfers bike that will be used once to go to the bakery.
  • 3 0
 Why would you have a remote lock out on an enduro bike?
  • 1 0
 There is a bottle mount, and space for a large bottle. Why do you have 7 cables on your bars?
  • 1 0
 @Tambo: I'm running cable gears, dropper, remote lock front and rear and brakes. I'm sorry. 6 cables. I like to lock when I climb.
  • 1 0
 @RidleyRijder: I did wonder what the 7th one was for...
  • 3 0
 @Tambo: yeah, my bad. I was on the toilet when I wrote the comment and wasn't thinking straight...
  • 1 0
 "looked to me like a flip chip. I asked Cesar about this and it turns out I was wrong. "Actually, is not a flipchip but to avoid axles getting loose", he tells me."

Did you ask him why all the pivot bolts don't have it? The other end of that same link, the other link, the upper shock mount... Those don't have the oval washer, do they have the loctite or second bolts he is implying are needed?
  • 2 0
 I am not sure how I feel about the looks of this thing. Its the prettiest ugly bike ive ever seen....or the ugliest pretty bike ive ever seen. Either way it looks super unique!
  • 1 0
 It's the seat tube itself, standing alone, it's the height/length (and potential lack of insertion). 175cm tall rider on S2 is going to be limited to around 180mm drop*, which we're being told is basically sacrilege nowadays. And even then only with the super low stack of a OneUp; other droppers, like the pictured Transfer, are going to be even more limited.

*Basing this on my own 178cm height with a 450mm seattube and a 180mm OneUp post with approx 15mm of outer-post showing, and that 15mm plus more will be taken up by almost every other post out there.
  • 1 0
 If this was the first bike I ever saw I would think, now wouldn't it be an amazing idea to have the cables enter the frame directly, through the front or the sides, instead of making them pass through the headset?? Surely that would have been possible??? Maybe even worthy of a patent and a fancy name, like Direkt-konnect??
  • 2 0
 How often are you guys changing your handlebar height and brakes that this is even an issue? My brakes don’t come off the bike unless they are broken and once I’ve set the bike up I never change the spacers
  • 1 0
 I changed the cockpit ten times at least in the first year or semester, then it kind of settled but I still plan on adding a 3mm spacer, which I may decide to take back.
  • 1 0
 Headset entry cables are no obstacle to changing the brakes whatsoever, the problem is that they force you to cut the hydraulic cable (thus shortening it, possibly too much), insert new cable end hardware and bleed the brake. Just to change a f**king spacer. Although I don't actually think this system in particular involves that, only those in which the cables enter the stem. As far as I can see the only problem here is cable rub, and how ugly that plastic hardware looks. And how it may prevent you from lowering the stem all the way down, and also creates a higher stack to begin with, with no structural benefits, on the opposite.
  • 7 3
 It identifies as a Trek Session.
  • 4 0
 those rim decals trigger me hard
  • 2 0
 Right?? Who mounted those tires....
  • 1 0
 @laureneckert22: no, i specifically mean the logos on the rims. check them. one has the crankbrothers logo next to the valve hole, the other is at the opposite direction. that’s worse than the wrong tire mount. you can’t even fix it.
  • 4 0
 Mast seems an appropriate term for the seat tube.
  • 5 1
 Literally the dumbest looking bike I’ve ever seen
  • 3 0
 I liked the old frame design better. This one looks over-stylized and the seat tube looks hella ugly, especially in gold.
  • 2 0
 I feel like the only positive thing worth mentioning here is the fact that it somehow doesn't cost 15k. I'm quite surprised by that.
  • 4 0
 That top tubes lower than Boris Johnson’s morals!!
  • 3 0
 "He took the seat off his own bike because the way that it felt..." Blink182
  • 1 1
 It does look absolutely wild, but surely it would have been lighter / used less material if more of natures strength was utilised... AKA triangulation

I certainly would not feel comfortably at peace in my mind when sat atop a fully extended seatpost!
  • 2 0
 That one degree kink in the top tube bothers the sh*t outta me. I can't see what purpose that would fulfill, except to piss me off.
  • 2 0
 I'm glad someone else noticed that.
  • 3 0
 Dare i say, by Unno standards that price ain't bad.
  • 9 0
 An 8000 euro bike with GX Eagle and headset routing? No thanks.
  • 2 1
 @MrMentallo: at least its AXS?
  • 3 0
 @MrMentallo: people are drunk. Just because other brands are even more overpriced, that price right here still is shit
  • 4 0
 No rear mudguard tho?
  • 2 0
 Pretty sure my Clydesdale self would meld that seat post into the rear tire in no time at all.....
  • 1 0
 Is it me or is that thing sporting a shorter dropper? Bike like that should be 200mm minimum with that long hard gold mast design.
  • 1 0
 Be nice to see a photo of it when they’ve finished designing the frame.
What? The seat tube is supposed to be like that ?
Hahahahahahaha
  • 1 0
 Love the standover height. Meh on the mullet, not stoked about potentially sandblasting the rear shock, despise the cable routing.
  • 1 0
 Shop mechanic “yea that needs a new headset, its £50 for bearings and £100 to fit because of the dumb cable routing
Dentist “ yea what-evs mate, just fix it”
  • 1 0
 Nice linkage arrangement. Unnecessary frame deviations. Clean up the front triangle and pull the cables out of your "headset" and you've got something.
  • 2 0
 There's a trail in Whistler called Golden Boner. I bet this bike and its seat tube would fucking slay that trail.
  • 1 0
 People mad about the internal rear hose & dropper.
Me : Could they not have ran the front hose in the steerer to be truly integrated smh
A minority I know
  • 2 0
 sweet reminds me of one of them expensive light weight hoovers rich people have...
  • 1 0
 What happens when a 85kg aggressive enduro sender seat bounces after getting bucked on a pro-line hit? The sort of impact that bends chromoly seat rails.
  • 1 0
 Gross bike. Mullet bikes don't work (ask anyone who owned a bighit circa 2006) Seat tube looks like a dildo and headset cable routing is the last nail in the coffin.
  • 3 0
 Dude, uglyass.
  • 2 0
 is the seat post compensating for something else?
  • 1 0
 The real innovation here: back-friendly wobble chair mounted on monster roller.
  • 2 0
 Your nuts are safe with this bike.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a muscled-up city bike. Almost like a scooter with the top tube that low.
  • 1 0
 "Where is my full face helmet?"

Because my frame looks like it will snap in two.
  • 2 0
 Perfect for the victorian lady who wants to hit the trails in full skirts.
  • 1 1
 So close to being a beauty of a bike. Higher rise bar please, and lower the seat mast. And as others have said, please don't spec headset routed cables.
  • 1 0
 I believe to be PC this is called a step though frame not a “ladies bike”
  • 2 0
 Does it come apart to be a unicycle?
  • 1 0
 Whether or not you hate the shape and cable routing it is a very clean frame, and hey at least it is unique.
  • 1 0
 That may take the prize for ugliest bike I've ever seen, followed closely by anything Pole has ever made.
  • 1 0
 people in unno are not without irony, the name of the e-bike is burn... burn mutherfuther burn
  • 1 0
 Would not want to be warranty agent for this frames, I believe there will be some if not many cracks around seatpost.
  • 2 0
 Can you attach a sail to the seat mast on windy days?
  • 1 0
 Tire logos are sooo close to lining up. Way to drop the ball for the show-off photos.
  • 1 0
 Shame they spoilt the look by sticking a smaller wheel at the back. All Mullets should die!
  • 1 0
 I think it is very pretty to look at but they definitely went with form over function
  • 1 0
 Looks like a cross between a Pole Evolink and Specialized Stumpy EVO, just without a seat tube brace.
  • 1 0
 This is gonna look awesome for a tall person like me with an 85 cm seat height.
  • 1 0
 Is it me or the headset looks like there's a mud trap or fly trap? May be a fly chimney?
  • 1 0
 You know, with that ultra low top tube one will be able to easily ride in a kilt or skirt.
  • 1 0
 Always liked the the Potts Mod. If its all the same to you, I'll drive that bike.
  • 1 0
 How could a bike this cool be called the Burn?
  • 10 0
 Burn is what you feel when the seat tube snaps
  • 1 0
 Would you say it's a sick Burn?
  • 2 0
 no room for a bottle?
  • 44 0
 Unno bikes come with a butler that runs behind you to give you Evian water and caviar.
  • 12 0
 There's plenty of room on the seat mast.
  • 2 0
 According to enduro-mtb.com review "Although it might seem impossible at first glance, there’s enough room in the main frame to accommodate a big water bottle."
  • 1 0
 Doesn't look like a Session...LOL
  • 1 0
 How do you adjust the rebound?
  • 1 0
 Turn the knob
  • 1 0
 @KeithShred: I can't even see it, let alone get a finger in there to turn it!
  • 2 0
 You have a 2nd bike with 2 clicks less rebound.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Session! Specifically, a Trek Session 10 (2006~)
  • 2 0
 Seattube way too long
  • 1 0
 the hack is that seat tube
  • 1 0
 Absolute incredible crazy ugly.
  • 1 0
 What happened to the dropper cable?
  • 1 0
 Only one compartment for holding snacks? Crazy. I need at least three .
  • 2 0
 It’s a no from me
  • 1 0
 Not got the memo about short seat tubes then. 460mm on the S2?
  • 1 0
 You can get on it without revealing yourself in a summer dress.
  • 1 0
 looks like its sagging its pants
  • 1 0
 it might look wild, not sure that's good
  • 1 0
 Looks like that girder empire thing from back in 2012
  • 1 0
 Fugly. Never seen one and don’t expect to see one on the trails near me.
  • 1 0
 Not with that seat post/whatever it is.
  • 1 0
 Unno didn't expect roasting!
  • 1 0
 Stand over is ok for Dwarf
  • 1 0
 Looks awesome. I want one.
  • 1 0
 I can't do this anymore. Mountain bikes are getting out of hand.
  • 1 0
 pffft. valve stems off center.
  • 1 0
 Holy crap they finally made a XXL
  • 1 0
 Dope ride, count me out tho being between s2 and s3 sizing
  • 1 0
 1st place in CT the landfill race
  • 1 0
 I would sooooooooo break that seat tube!
  • 1 0
 It's definitely cool.
  • 1 0
 Can I pay with JobRad?
  • 1 0
 wat
  • 1 0
 y tho
  • 1 0
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  • 1 0
 Sure looks pretty.
  • 1 0
 *Pulls out reverse card*
  • 1 2
 You just ain't seen nothing....yet.... Unno Unno Unno Unno





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