Parking Lot Randoms - Eurobike 2022

Jul 14, 2022 at 13:55
by Travis Engel  
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Eurobike, like any bike-industry tradeshow, is usually attended by what we would call "lifers." People who have made a career in cycling, and have done it long enough to achieve a status that brings with it many years worth of laminated name badges and Shimano-branded neck layards. And what better way to show your years of tradeshow experience than to ride to the venue on a bike that should probably be in a museum? We took a stroll around the bike-filled parking lot at this year's Eurobike to see what relics it had to offer.

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Remember Nokon cable housing? It offered the benefit of being lighter weight, and it was meant to continue its inner liner from end to end, where traditional housing would be punctuated by stops on the frame. There were even little sliding "windows" that allowed you to clean and lubricate them occasionally. Nokon, and other beaded housing that followed, also was more adept at navigating complicated bends while only slightly deflecting the cable tension. Oh, and it looks really neat. But now, with internal cable routing so ubiquitous, at least half of the rather pricey, cool-looking housing would be hidden inside your frame. Nokon has all but disappeared, but not from the Eurobike parking lot.

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Nothing lasts like a thumb shifter. This is a 6-speed, but it's from an era when XT was also offering 7-speed. We're guessing this is third- or fourth-generation XT. making it M732 or M735. But we're also guessing someone out there will let us know if we're wrong. If you've never set digits to one of these early indexed Shimano shifters, you're missing out. Though they're definitely best suited for spec on an old dusty townie in the year 2022, there's something crisp, satisfying, almost ASMR-inducing about the dull but positive "THUD" as they go from gear to gear. But if you're not into that, this one had a switch to go friction.

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This was bound to be a Shimano-heavy list, but the "Parallax" hub design is forgotten enough that it bears revisiting. Earlier Shimano hubs had a thin, hourglass profile. Think early Campagnolo. But that shape allowed for enough flex that it put extra stress on the bearing cups, cones, axles, and even spokes. Connecting either end of the hub shell with a thicker body solved a lot of problems. But brands like Ringle and White Industries got there first.

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Of course, while hubs were getting stronger, we couldn't help but take one step back thanks to our obsession with titanium skewers. They were a little more fragile, a little more stretchy, and a lot more expensive. But they saved dozens of grams. And more importantly, they added swagger to an otherwise mundane component. Problem is, nearly all of them used an external cam. It's a simpler system, but it invites dirt to coat a surface that kinda needs to be smooth and, ideally, lubricated to work optimally. These skewers from famous German weight weenies, Tune, used an internal cam, much like Shimano skewers, which were obviously the best skewers. Again, let us know if we're wrong. Tune is usually a mainstay at Eurobike, but they sat this one out. At least they can still be found in the parking lot.

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RD-M952. Enough said.

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We used to make tubeless way harder than it had to be. If you've ever complained about dealing with re-taping a rim, try lacing up a set of these babies. Each spoke insert had to be individually threaded in after spinning on the spoke nipple, but before tensioning. And god help you if you drop a nipple in there. And then, there's the UST interface itself. It was a relatively tightly controlled standard that involved a hook-bead rim and a matching tire bead. Mavic worked with Hutchinson and Michelin, as well as other brands, to develop UST. This was before tire sealant. But it was before a lot of things, and only stuck around so long. Except for this one, which is easily two decades old.

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Ever see someone on the trail who's missing a couple rotor bolts? Not if they're on an early-2000s Cannondale! Always the innovators, Cannondale insisted for a short time on making 4-bolt rotors and hubs for their CODA brakes. As much as we complain about new standards today, at least there's usually a well-thought-out reason behind them. Back then, some things were just arbitrary. Case in point: One of the caliper mounts on this particular fork (which happens to be a Headshok) is slotted because we hadn't yet agreed on the 51mm IS mount. Glad we've settled all this now ... right?

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  • 30 2
 M95x series XTR is one of the best shifting, most durable drivetrains I ever ran. The front shifting (remember that??) was astonishingly good, rear derailleur just ran the chain up and down the cassette fuss-free. Since then, only M8000/M9000 gives this stuff a run for the money.

The XT 12 I’m running now is shockingly fragile by comparison.
  • 14 4
 Shockingly fragile? What?

Torn off derailleurs that used to keep my paycheque paid, essentially went to zero once we hit 10 speed.

They were smooth, and quiet I’ll admit. But the pivots slogged out, they bounced around, they bent so easily, got entangled on themselves, hangers were made of cheese.
  • 4 0
 @bonfire: maybe you actually got a little better at riding...or maybe as you grew old your line choices were also injected with foresight and wisdom...that helps too.
  • 1 0
 @bonfire: for me tearing off derailleurs went up to over 9000 since shimano 12 spd. I've gone back to 11spd on some bikes.
  • 1 0
 I have a small stash of M95x derailleurs and parts. My cross bike has one on it now, I've used it for 1x11, 2x9, 3x9, I've thrown in some 7 and 8 speed wheels in a pinch, that derailleur does it all, and looks SO GOOD the whole time.
  • 23 0
 I’ll be that guy…

That’s a Shimano SL-M730 thumb shifter. The M732 thumb shifter was the 7-speed model of it, that actually had a phantom 8th click to it, so you could get away with running an 8-speed cassette with it.
  • 1 19
flag EvoRidge (Jul 15, 2022 at 0:09) (Below Threshold)
 Shimano guys...weak
  • 2 0
 Well done! I think I’ve got two pairs of the m732s stashed in a box. Those were the days.
  • 11 1
 @EvoRidge: Sachs-Huret guys...weak
  • 1 0
 @oldfut: me too,though only one pair. So nostalgic
  • 19 0
 I occasionally restore older bikes from the 80's and 90's and there is something nice about how simple they were.... until you take them on a trail and remember very quickly how scary it is to have your hands further out than your front axle (yikes)
  • 2 0
 you're no Superman
  • 13 1
 That Nokon housing looked neat until you went shuttling on a bike with downtube routing, and the pickup bed crimped the aluminum, thus committing you to a single gear for the rest of the day....
  • 5 0
 Also it was silent only the first twenty minutes until dust got between the links and then it was perma-creak.
  • 3 0
 Or after a few months you noticed it was sawing through some part of your full sus frame.
  • 8 0
 The last picture shows a Magura Louise, which only has one piston. When braking, the rotor bends until it is touching the inner brake pad. It works surprisingly well. Apparently, Magura is still making money from cable-operated disc brakes, licensing this design.
  • 3 0
 I was just going to mention the same. Glad I scrolled through comments. The brake levers on the og Louise had lots of flex and snapped often.
  • 4 1
 That’s how essentially all but the trp Spyre mechanical brakes work. Just need to adjust the inner to be close.

Same with Hayes Sole.
  • 3 0
 Also, Magura still makes 4 bolt rotors for Rohloff hubs.....They havent gone away at all.
  • 5 0
 Have a pair of the thumb shifters mounted upside down, back on left side, front on right side on my handle bars for a super clean look, a 1990 Klein Rascal with a Specialized Future Shock, 1.25 inches of sticky travel! Still functioning flawlessly!
  • 2 0
 I did that too. IIRC Ned Overend did it before Rapid Fire days. Worked pretty well!
  • 2 0
 @wake-n-rake: greg herbold did it. Overend was late to rapidfire, re MBA worlds interview 1990
  • 1 0
 I built my first 1986 Stumpjumper that way without knowing any better. Worked great and allowed you to feel what gear you were in on night rides. Did that with barcons and White Industries mounts on 10 speed.
  • 6 0
 My first discs were RockShox cable actuated hydraulic and those rotors were held on by three little hex head bolts. 4 bolts is nanny-styate luxury I tells ya!
  • 6 0
 I miss UST. Building the wheels was not as hard as this article makes it out to be, and you never had the dreaded air leak between rim and rim tape.
  • 2 0
 Mavic still makes UST wheels. I bought a pair of Deemax wheels and they are UST. But I don't think there are any UST tyres left. But I put sealant in and it works great. I hpoe they are as durable as back in the days :-)
  • 1 0
 same its better system in my opinion have a sealed rim bed, and the ust tyre thing was a bit of a myth normal dh casing non ust maxxis worked just fine with sealant
  • 1 0
 UST was great it would seal perfectly with a Michelin C 16 even without sealant. The rims were way too soft though, i dont usually break or bend rims but with these it was a constant hassle. The new crossmax xl are kinda like the ust but stiffer, only the spokes come loose occasionally.
  • 1 0
 Just leaky welded joints, or astonishing corrosion once someone put original stans in them.
  • 1 0
 Mavc CrossRoc (or was it Rok?) and completely dry Grax Arrojo was my first tubeless setup.
And after with Geax latex milk I used to make thousands of kms in complete peace of mind while never ever having a pump or spare tube
  • 3 0
 Those SIS/friction shimano thumbshifters were great. I had a set installed on my first mtb back in 1994, a 93 stumpjumper that came with rapidfires as stock. I was new to indexing and had a profound mistrust of anything new in bikes, so got a pair of the 7 speed thumbshifters subbed in. Best shifters, ever! Long after I got rid of the stumpjumper, I kept those shifters in my parts bin, only to resurrect them years later on a beater with an 8-spd cassette (yup, the 7 speeds had a "secret" 8th click!). Then I gave that bike to a guy who I thought was gonna ride the shit out of it, and he ended up hanging it up in his basement and now we're no longer friends. Bahhh
  • 2 0
 I'm still running XT thumbies on my Salsa rolling collection of vintage parts Ala Carte with an 8 speed cassette.
The spacing on 7 & 8 speed cassettes might be different, but the float in the top jockey wheel lets it work.
Another thing that just worked was UST. My Crossmaxes are still the easiest tubeless wheel to set up, though you can't get a proper UST tyre anymore.
  • 1 0
 Same. Carried over my trusted thumbies over a few builds in the early 90’s before finally going rapidfire.
  • 1 0
 I swear as a kid I had a bike with Shimano thumb shifters, but neither front or rear were indexed, so you just turned the shifter until it found the next gear. How far bikes have come
  • 6 0
 This post makes the old man in me warm and happy, like a nap in a sunny rocking chair.
  • 6 0
 not full sun, some clouds and a light breeze.
  • 8 2
 Pheww Finally, I Cant See Any Motor Detected.
  • 3 0
 I look at all of these pictures, and I reminisce in the same way I think about dating in the 80s and 90s. I have fond memories but I don’t miss it at all.
  • 3 0
 "Ever see someone on the trail who's missing a couple rotor bolts?"

I remember when we used to only run three rotor bolts to save weight...Smile Smile Smile
  • 1 0
 Oh the shift from thumb to rapid fire…
New DB Axis with ST-M091 shifters.
Chopped off the shifter pod mounts and installed “proper” thumb shifters. So custom and yesteryear.
Yeah the bikes were funky but we had just as much fun.
Bonus was that the trails were a lot less crowded!
  • 1 0
 Love the Nokon on three of my bikes (commuter, DH and trail). Just take a bit of extra care when mounting to prevent pinches or scuffing on the frame, and I've had the same housing for 5 seasons in harsh Norwegian weather with no need to lubricate unless I change the wire which happens once every second season. I've moved my Nokon's from bike to bike since I first bought them in 2004. Top notch stuff!
  • 1 0
 I built a set of those rims back in the day. They worked. But for reasons unknown, I still have a small baggie of the inserts. I probably have the insert wrench somewhere too but no rims.
  • 4 0
 Best coverage from Eurobike so far.
  • 2 0
 You're spot on, at last an image gallery that isn't ruined by fugly e-bikes.
  • 1 0
 Looks like the collection of parts that are running on my steel framed Orange hardtail with an AMP fork. Fun to ride around town or as "gravel" bike. And it makes me realize how far bike design has progressed.
  • 1 0
 I love this stuff! I was too poor to afford this fancy stuff from the 80's and 90's, but lusted after it in bike shops. My uncle had that XT SIS shifter on a 3x Norco and it was amazing at the time.
  • 4 0
 Awesome article.
  • 2 0
 Campy (Fulcrum) makes the baller qr. The only one that can lock down a Paragon flat plate dropout.
  • 1 0
 those coda skewers were such piles of rubbish! thanks for the trippppp down memory lane (I was hoping never to see some of that shit again!!!)
  • 1 0
 That XT thumb shifter was built on August 17th 1986. How did you not know this?
  • 2 0
 My first-generation Hope rotor looked like it belonged on a farm tractor.
  • 1 0
 I would think the person snooping around that parking lot looking over those bikes looks like a thief!
  • 2 0
 Ever rebuild a Headshock? Nightmare...
  • 2 0
 No, but I have looked at the back of a $20 bill..... on weed
  • 1 0
 Parallax hub design isn't forgotten, it's basically everywhere.
  • 1 0
 They were heavy, but worked pretty good actually
  • 1 0
 Been enjoying Travis's reports on the new stuff but this is the best.
  • 1 0
 Awesome article- I loved my Nokon equipped bikes back in the day.
  • 1 0
 Coda brakes pain in ...







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