Urge Archi Enduro RR + Helmet and Goggle - Press Release

 Is there is a helmet maker that is *less* concerned about helmet safety than Urge is? Not that I know of.

 @Phillyenduro: what do you mean?

 @Phillyenduro: so you bash them solely on not having Mipsy stuff? Propaganda works indeed. Rotational forces? I hope you dismounted visor off your helmet. Do you even ride in Dr.Leatt brace?

 @Phillyenduro: how do you know they are not pumping tons of money into research on garden gnomes saving you from rotational head injury? So you are basically saying that 90% of helmets out there are not made in exactly same way as Urge helmets? Inmold shell on eps? Let me list you a couple of helmets potentially as safe as urge (since they use same tech): Bell, TLD, Scott, Bontrager, most of POC, Specialized, Met. There's no evidence whatsoever that mipsy stuff works better than sweat. And I doubt if there ever will be one.

 If you really want, I can get the head out of my arse and calculate the G force acting on your skull base on a fact how much can a POC helmet decelerate your brain as compared to Urge helmet. Let's start with: what sort of helmet are you using? Can you live up to your expectations?

 @Phillyenduro:
I bought one of their helmets a couple year ago and couldn't believe how flimsy the thing was, so I returned it.

 @Phillyenduro: alright both of y'all chill. Philly I gotta doubt that the hooks really increase rotational force they're like a cm off the helmet. WAKI I gotta agree with philly here tho as the MIPS is a proven solution to reduce the likelihood of concussion. Ultimately I think that the MTB world needs a company like URGE tho to push new ideas- whether they be good or bad. This isn't a helmet that you should necessarily buy over any other but you have to say it certainly is a unique idea. For example the chinguard is what I would consider a very unique and good idea- the goggles are what I would consider a very unique however maybe not so good idea. It's always good to have a company that is willing to try new though- even if it isn't safety related.

 @ryanandrewrogers: I haven't seen any proof on MIPS working, because there simply cannot be any with the current simulation technology and not unless someone took death sentenced prisoners and slammed their heads into the ground with or without helmet. I am not a nay sayer on MIPS, it makes sense but I'd like to think I represent "healthy scepticism" due to my crash experience where fullface or open face used to slide on my head. The only self-critical notion I can have here is whether that initial low-friction slide with mipsy stuff is what minimizes rotational force. I'd like to see some comparisons on friction with and without mips. It's been already pointed out to me by a rep from POC that the best protection is one the slides on ground/tree surface. He was cirtical himself on things like backpacks with back protector, where he said that no backpack will be as efficient in protecting spine as a dedicated spine protector. It is quite clear that different kinds of hits favor different types of helmets. If you are about to get a rotational hit into your head you'll be best with a hardshell helmet that will slide against the surface it hits, unlike a inmold helmet with plenty of vents which will grip onto that surface, due to vents and soft outer shell. But if we are talking direct hit, the situation will be opposite, ribbed structure of a vented inmold helmet will deform much more than a hardshell helmet, thus provide slightly more deceleration due to better working crumple zone. So here's a question: which kinds of hits occur more often? POC currently uses a new kind of foam in their high end FF helmet, then 6D system provides a bit more cushioning as well as giving more "anti-rotational" protection. Are companies including MIPS in their helmets (Bontrager will have only MIPS equipped helmets in 2017 line) because it's so much better? Maybe, but we cannot forget the incentive to increase sales as a big factor here. MIPS is by far the cheapest and easiest to apply to a standard helmet design, allowing you to get sales margins. This just CANNOT be ommitted and combined with obvious lack of scientific examination, it cannot be taken as a proof for the system working thus providing evident advantage over a helmet without such feature. As world's biggest heads on the subject say, and some helmet makers themselves, baseline for understanding head injuries has not yet been developed thus there can be no proper tests developed. Due to such set of circumstances ANY discussion on ethics of using such system is a food for morons, getting angry and throwing sht at each other is just a sign of anxiety driven by lack of evidence. We may all say what we want here and hopefully have such discussion with some facts on our hands as soon as possible, I hope in less than 5 years time. I doubt if data will come from MTB industry, I'd rather watch American Football, MMA, boxing and other sports where head injuries are far more common. Also watch closely the company called Hövding, with their airbag collar.

 @WAKIdesigns: when I saw the design I was like , ok another " waki leaks " article , then when I saw they actually post something that they will actually produce I headed down here hoping Id find your take on this bogus

 til it's raining on a transfer..

 There was a company in the 90's called quick strap with a similar system

 @PLMedia: it never rains in France :-)

 Well done, Urge!

 Well I can tell you the Australian distributor aren't bringing in this year's model. Didn't say why but last year's model can be got for super cheap from them. Apparently the chin bar was dangerous.

 Hello Mr Nutelladonut,

It's possible that you have missed the release of the Urge BP Archi-Enduro RR helmet. Please find below all the informations you need : www.pinkbike.com/news/urge-bike-products-archi-enduro-rr-2016.html

cheers,

Urge BP

 @urgebikeproducts: Cheers lads

 @urgebikeproducts: hahahaha, "Mr Nutelladonut"...........haha

 Quick strap is a snowmobiling equivalent. Same concept but for any goggle and any helmet. I dont think the strap spins on those like the urge version does though.

 @Rmcfarland: I used the sled version for a decade and loved them. It had a button on one side and velcro on the other.

 I've been using the Quick Strap for years. It's great.

 www.amazon.com/Factory-Effex-Goggles-Quick-Strap/dp/B00J0ASMA6

 @mabboo: cheers man thanks!

 No kidding. They took a moto helmet and just made it lighter. Took long enough I guess? Instead of velcro, let's just make it harder to find goggles that work.

 He's right. Your down votes can't cover up the truth.

 @gdnorm: Ηa ha! Hard to be objective about what looks nice or not. I like it, the styling reminds me of wrc rally cars.

 IDK why this is down voted. I've never heard of Urge before, so can't comment on the looks of their other stuff, but this comment gave me the irresistible "urge" to LMFAO!!!! So I bump you sir.