Five Ten Re-Boots a Classic - Crankworx Whistler 2017

Aug 19, 2017 at 7:18
by Vernon Felton  
Five Ten Impact Pro Shoe by Vernon Felton
Five Ten is showing off a new version of their venerable Impact flat-pedal shoe. The Impact Pro will be available in February of 2018, will come in three colors and will sell for $160.

The bigger question, though, is why mess with a shoe design that a lot of riders still feel is a classic?

“We started development on the new shoe two years ago,” says Five Ten’s Luke Hontz, “ and what we wanted to do was get back, closer to the roots, of what the original Impact was and further away from what the Impact VXi had become. The goal was to make this super durable, make it way more protective, and keep the grip and feel of the original Impact, but scale the whole thing down slightly.”

What, specifically, did they do to make that happen?
Five Ten Impact Pro Shoe by Vernon Felton

“The trend in the shoe industry,” says Hontz, “has been to go as light as possible on everything. What we did here was reduce the height of the mid-sole by 30 percent, but we made it out of PU [Ed. polyurethane] instead of going with a lighter mid-sole cushioning material like EVA.”

Why does that matter?

“EVA is really light, but it breaks down, wrinkles and fatigues quicker than PU. We used PU because it’s more durable."

It’s worth noting here that the Impact VXi features an EVA midsole whereas the original Impact had a PU version. What sets the new Impact Pro mid-sole apart from the original version? The new mid-sole has less coring than the original Impact, but a thinner mid-sole—the end result is that the new Impact Pro has a similar feel on the pedal as the original Impact, but a slimmer profile.

"We wanted the feel of the original Impact, but we also wanted to reduce the overall volume of the shoe and add some protection.”

Five Ten Impact Pro Shoe by Vernon Felton
The Mi6 rubber outsole that showed up on the Impact VXi is dropped here, in favor of the original S1 Stealth rubber, which is said to be more durable.

The Impact Pro uppers are made from a weather-resistant synthetic material that Hontz says dries quickly and is durable. The toe box is a bit stiffer than that of the original Impact and borrows from the Freerider Pro in that it features four layers of material; it incorporates PORON (a fine-pitch, open-cell urethane foam used to deaden impacts...you find it in some knee pads), EVA, regular foam (“To keep it soft to the touch on the inside.”), and, finally, a rubberized toe cap on the outside. Five Ten added a lace tuck, a stitched toe and reinforced shoelace eyelets. They’ve also moved away from the Mi6 rubber outsole that’s on the Impact VXi and back to their original S1 Stealth rubber, which is more durable over the long run. Hontz noted that Five Ten also tweaked the tread pattern to maximize grip.

In short, the new Impact Pro is supposed to be a less bulky, yet burlier version of the original Impact model.

Five Ten Impact Pro Shoe by Vernon Felton
Five Ten Impact Pro Shoe by Vernon Felton

“The Impact is our heritage—it’s not going anywhere,” says Hontz. “It’s been on a lot of peoples’ feet for a lot of years and we don’t want to take away from that, but we’ve done a lot of testing on it and we’ve figured out how to improve on it.”

We’ll see how the new versions hold up to real world conditions as soon as test models make their way into the wild.



MENTIONS: @FiveTen




105 Comments

  • + 71
 Five Adidasten - please... boa laced flat pedal shoe with inside ankle protection...
  • + 51
 That'll be $275, thank you very much
  • + 1
 Now I might have to switch to flats if they do that.
  • + 9
 @Nordicskier1: I'd pay that if they lasted as long as Impact Low 2
  • - 1
 with a carbon midsole shank please and thank you
  • + 8
 Or at least just a lace strap.
  • + 27
 Or how about just going back to pre buy out quality.
  • + 3
 Get some Lock Laces.
  • + 1
 I like this idea. I loooooove my Kestrels. Just replaced with a new pair after 3 years of abuse. Only issue was the Boa laces wear out every 6 months or so, but Boa will send you a complete new system free for the life of the shoe. Some of the reviews complain that if the Boa breaks you're kind of SOL, but I've never had that happen, and the grommets it's laced through are large enough to throw on some zip ties to get you home.
  • + 1
 sounds like they listened to the people and remade the 5.10 Impact that everyone missed with improvements to it's shortcomings. I'm good with lace up, more comfortable and breathable method. Boa can dig, and they break. I just hope the soles aren't too thick.
  • + 2
 I'm in the market for the same thing. Not a boa lace, but I might go with the 5.10 Approach Pro if it's stiff enough.
  • + 1
 Specialized kind of did it with the Stumpy '74... Wish they were still available
  • + 1
 I remember my first ride in Whistler, you knew who the Aussies/Kiwi's and Brits were - all had the black velvet 5.10 impacts.

Canadians and Americans - board shorts, skate shoes and most body armour over their t-shirts..... OR those OLD Kona Jersey's

Anyway, I've had all editions of the Impact, the newest are the most uncomfortable - I should have stuck with the Sam Hill's.
I will be buying the Sam Hill's instead of buying these too I think
  • + 1
 Y E S!!!!!!!!
  • - 1
 @andnyleswillriot: yeah, my girlfriend is all about the lacestraps too
  • + 1
 @Waldon83: True dat- customs handed me mine on arrival.
  • + 1
 @Waldon83: i'm still using the sam hill v2
  • + 1
 Nice - I wish they did a re-release of the Rennie high top. Though, the new Sam Hills look like the real ticket. All the WC riders on flats seem to prefer them over the Impact's
  • + 1
 not having the ankle protections seems like a huge oversight.
  • + 1
 Or 7 pairs of skate shoes @Nordicskier1:
  • + 1
 @shotouthoods: 7 pairs of Skate shoes? Perhaps with CAT logo on them. DC, Vans, Etnies are cheaper but not that cheap.
  • + 1
 @Waldon83: nope, you have it the other way around. Americans and Canadians had the slick 5 tens in black and everything else blacked out. The aussies, kiwis, and brits were wearing white K-Swiss shoes, wrangler jeans, and white wife beaters. Real cool look
  • + 1
 @Ryanrobinson1984:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/3533739

Me, riding Whistler in 2009, wearing said (original) 5.10's
Pretty sure I remember my first Whistler experience mate. I was blown away that they had this epic bike park, and everyone was in skate shoes and board shorts....
  • + 1
 @Waldon83: hey, how do I know that's not photoshopped!!? Lol, only kidding brother. You win, Waldon...you win again...goddamnit
  • + 1
 @Waldon83: I have the latest Sam Hill version. Something weird is up with the interior of the shoe. Almost feels like the right shoe is molded cock eyed. As though the shoe wants to go right and my foot wants to go left.
Left shoe fits fine, but I literally feel like my right shoe is misaligned to my foot?

Oh, and the Impact Pro is available online now if anyone is pulling trigger.
  • + 1
 @bizutch: I’ve been feeling “meh” enough about Impacts VXii that I bought after owning Impacts Low 2 that there is no way in a fricking world I’d pay for Impacts Pro. Funny though, Impacts Pro use the “old” S1 rubber, that I personally found better than Mi6.
  • + 15
 Maybe it's just me, but I've never had a pair of 5-10's come apart. I've got a pair of canvas Freeriders that are two years old and still look great. They been soaked and covered in mud, but brush clean when dry. The sole only has a few pedal poke holes from medal pin pedals. No complaints from me on the three pairs I've had. I am getting concerned over the rising price though.
  • + 3
 I couldn't agree more. I've got a pair of canvas Freeriders too, super durable after getting abused and they're still probably the most comfortable shoe I've ever had.
  • + 2
 I have but only after multiple seasons of abuse. Best shoes I've ever used for biking and whitewater kayaking, nothing beats the grip.
  • + 4
 Not just you.

I have a set of canvas Freeriders that are in their 3rd season, roughly 3000kms ridden. Tops still look brand new (after washing), soles are just starting to wear through from the pedal pins.

I'll definitely buy another pair
  • + 3
 Ive had no problems w the uppers but my soles are shredded after a few hundred rides. I wish there was a way to re-sole or repair them. Anyone?
  • + 2
 My elements freerider has been stellar for two seasons. I warrantied one pair of canvas ones but the new one has been great. That's the thing, even if they come apart within a season 510 has stellar customer service for warranty, they sent me new ones before even asking for mine back
  • + 1
 I have never had the normal freeriders come apart, but Impacts do seem to have a problem with the glue and sole coming loose. It is fixed with some shoe goo, though.
  • + 2
 @BryceBorlick: They can be re-soled. You just need to speak to Five-ten and find a cobbler locally that stocks their sole material. Usually they will be in an area that has a strong rock climbing community as well as the rubber on climbing shoes can wear in spots well before the shoes themselves are worn out.

We have a cobbler near us that does them for C$90 which sounds like a lot but it still cheaper than a new pair of kicks and there is quite a lot of work in removing the old soles, gluing and stitching on the new sole.
  • + 2
 My original impacts were awesome. Touched them up with some shoe goo a couple of times and that is all. I bought the xvi's and they fell apart in one season. I like the look of these impacts. I hope they last many seasons for riders that buy them.
  • + 1
 I had to replace my original pair of freeriders when I wore a hole straight through the bottom (they were old and I was using them as a work shoe too), second pair is still going strong with only some minor tears on the tongue.
  • + 0
 These look ideal. The only complaint i really have with my current Impacts is that they're a bit heavy and bulky. These new ones seem to address this.
  • + 3
 I've had six pairs of Five Tens. Three died with little use and three had a long hard wonderful life.
  • + 1
 I went through my last pair of Freeriders in about 7 months, which I feel is fair. The top of the right shoe got smashed by so many rocks that it was ripped open by the end. Got new ones cause they are great but my toes have still not recovered. Might get these for the extra protection in that area next....Freeriders were the best shoes I've ever owned to date though
  • + 1
 No mention of them addressing the main issue I've had- mega delamination. Fingers crossed
  • + 3
 ive had a pair of freeriders for 4 years and they are still going strong
  • + 1
 @BryceBorlick: You can by Stealth rubber resoles. At one point, Gain had a pair of Shimano AM shoes resolves with S1 rubber
  • + 19
 S1 over MI6 anyday...
  • + 4
 I am targeting my upvote bot on you
  • - 1
 Why is that? Is the Mi6 too grippy for you?
  • + 1
 @Rubberelli: I've found Mi6 having less grip than S1.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: No, really? They are substantially softer rubber.
  • + 3
 @Rubberelli: MI6 is softer and has more grip but it doesn't last nearly as long as the S1 which has a perfectly acceptable amount of grip. Plus the Mi6 rubber de-laminates from the sole of the shoe because it's too soft.
  • + 1
 @inverted180: softer rubber will always wear quicker, whether on a tire or a shoe. It's the decision one must make. I think the delam issue is glue as the classic impacts delamed too with S1 and a burly build.
  • + 1
 @Rubberelli: Ya maybe but Im just as satisfied with the grip of the S1 compared to Mi6 so I might as well get something that wears better.

Side note, these new impacts look the shiz.
  • + 2
 @Rubberelli: what 5.10 claims about their rubber compound is one thing, the reality of at least my experience is another. I ride every second day in Mi6 Impact VXi, then one day I took 5 year old Guide teenie with S1 and felt like I have too much grip. Got used to it. Awesome! Just got back from another ride in VXi and I was swearing like a pig for them having too little grip
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm guessing the grip you felt was from a more flexible sole clawing at the pedal. Impact vxi's are stiff and uncompromising for protection. Do you have a pair of classic impacts (also super stiff) to compare to? I have my first pair of impacts ever whose sole has broken down over the years of pushing up dh trails and they are super grippy as well, but I once thought I had broke my foot in a rock garden so I don't use them too often any longer.
  • + 1
 @Rubberelli: I don't have old impacts anymore to compare, but I do remember filing down pins on my flats because I had too much grip. AT the moment I use Spec Boomslangs and sometimes Superstars el-plastique - hard to blame boomslangs for little grip Razz
  • + 11
 WOO! Cant wait to have these fall apart on me! Smile
  • + 8
 They're said to be more durable... I hope they found the old rubber recipe from 5 years ago haha that's all we want. I hope these are more durable. My freeriders are on their last leg....
  • + 3
 The original Impact Pros we're just as good as any of the shoes they've been making since. I don't understand why they have so many similar models. They all essentially the same- bulky, overpriced skate shoes with good rubber. Let's see some real innovation guys!
  • + 3
 Kinda lost alot of my like for 5-10 in the past few years, went from being a 2-3 season shoe to a one season if youre lucky. I hope the return to a more durable material means longer lasting shoes again, would love to buy a pair of 5-10s with confidence again.
  • + 3
 From the look of the sole, the toe box looks smaller than the classic Freerider, just like the Freerider Contacts and Pros. Pretty lame. I think if people wanted a super narrow roadie fit shoe, they wouldn't be on flat pedals.
  • + 3
 Preach on brother! No research behind the ridiculous narrow toe boxes of most shoes.
  • + 1
 This is the bulkiest shoe I've ever seen, except for the last one. There is a lot more to a bike shoe than looking like a Space Boot or a Slipper.
  • + 3
 The only thing really worthy of mention on old Impacts was the outer sole, besides that rubber compound they have been sub par compared to the competition imo. Bulky, soakes up water like a sponge, quite heavy (dont want super light weight), laces rips out of the holes etc. Would rather have the S1 rubber on something like 2FO!1
  • + 7
 Seriously though, bring back the shoes that lasted...
  • + 2
 Hahaha Big Grin
  • + 2
 I remember the Marzocchi edition ... bombproof!!!! never again. all the shoes after that peeled off the sole
  • + 2
 I've been riding the freerider vxi for a while and recently on a whim I switched back to my old freeriders from like 4-5 years ago and I love them so much more. I used them way more but the rubber is in way better condition than the vxi's.
  • + 3
 I really hope this new Impact sole didn't peel off like the current model.. such a great shoe, but it's ridiculous to spend that money and a couple month later have to sew the sole.
  • + 3
 Wayyyy too thick of a sole , dont they have proper test pilots?? That is like raising your BB by 2 inches not mentioning horrible feedback ( as in none at all ) from your pedals
  • + 3
 Dear 5 10 please check out your parent companies shoe which is currently far better than any of the 6 pairs of yours I have so far gone through. ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb13887484/p5pb13887484.jpg
  • + 4
 Agreed. I have the cross trail lower cut version and they are fantastic. They even dryout in 24 hrs rater than 24 days
  • + 3
 @chrismac70: same here. Love the Terrex trail cross sl. Smile
  • + 1
 holy crap they look great.
  • + 1
 whoa!!! do they still sell these????
  • + 1
 If this is a free ride shoe why is the toe box so dam narrow. Research has shown that narrow toe boxes are not evidence based and cause foot, ankle, knee, and hip issues due to poor biomechanics. barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18424485
  • + 1
 Whenever I buy new five.ten shoes, I feel horrible using them at first because they are so expensive and nice. But if they had a $70 model, I wouldn't feel so bad. Please five.ten, how about making a spitfire "light" that is around $70?
  • + 2
 Dear Pinkbike you really need to specify currency when stating a price because as a canadian website it's really confusing and you are also mixing it up which makes it impossible for us to know.
  • + 2
 Love 510's but my vxi's are falling apart after 3 months kind of a bummer hopefully when these come out they'll last a bit longer
  • + 1
 My impact vxi's are lighter than my freeriders. I'm not sure why they are considered dh shoes though, because they don't seem to have impact protection like the normal impacts do. I would only consider them as trail shoes.
  • + 2
 Vernon Felton once described my feelings on the original impact high. If you just could keep making those, same durability, same price... Thx in advance.
  • + 1
 My perfect shoe would be Freerider for narrower foot, with little bit more thumb protection and little softer sole for pedal feel. Nothing more and nothing less.
  • + 1
 Got a pair of the Marzocchi branded impacts during my first year of university, lasted me the whole 4 years riding (and some), life saver for a poor student!
  • + 3
 looks like cheap chinese made crap...
  • + 3
 Look more like Crocs than Sam Hill impacts!
  • + 1
 That's all well and good but we all know the sole is gonna fall off after 10 rides anyway
  • + 1
 I saw these in Whistler. While improvement to impacts the colours aren't ideal. They are also heavy. VXI's will be missed.
  • + 2
 Have had 2 pairs of 5-10 both lasted years with no issues.
  • + 3
 'Member shoes?
  • + 3
 I 'member... 'member them lasting for a few seasons?
  • + 2
 I 'member!
  • + 2
 Vulgar display of footwear!!!!
  • + 3
 #Pantera
  • + 1
 @nickkk: HA! you got me.
  • - 2
 I just sold my '13 Sam Hills and am really regretting it. They were heavy as everything but could still sell them. My new free riders will be dead before this season is over. Yeah Adidas. I have heard that as a ghetto solution you can glue inner tube to the sole of a shoe and get the same stick. I will give it a try after my freeriders die. Fivetens have gone from being the best to being the best for a week, and I dont have funds to support this scam. I keep seeing the worst of humanity.
  • + 2
 I bought 3 pairs of OG impacts when they sold to Adidas before any changes happened
  • + 1
 I wish I'd done that. @Helm72:
  • + 1
 @Helm72: smart guy
  • + 1
 The worst of humanity? This?
  • + 2
 @Ron-C: ppl ripping each other off yeah. Adidas makes a low qual shoe for no reason other than to take advantage where advantage need not be taken
  • + 1
 Release a new Fiveten Cyclone already. Can't believe it there are almost no Hightop Clipless shoes available in 2017.
  • + 1
 The Cyclones are great. I bought two pairs and still ride with the first one and have a new one in the closet. Super durable shoe. I'm riding flats more now, though so my new cyclones might be for sale. Got a pair of Sam Hills now and so far so good after 7 months of abuse.
  • + 2
 Camo!!!
  • + 1
 Free rider high top with a cleat.would be sweet
  • - 1
 Hopefully the new shoe has the flex of the free rider shoe and the protection of the Impact .
  • + 0
 Nobody is paying $160

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