well, i guess you'd call it a proto-proto haha! but the box work was so hideously labour intensive i could never sell it...it took me like 200hours fabrication time. i dont have a laser cutter, so all tyhe sheet sections to make the boxwork was cut with a angle grinder and hand filed to fit, and bent by hand, the tig welded up the seems. such an amazingly stiff bike, but mine and mine only haha!