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Pros 'n' cons for Foes 2:1 suspension system
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flag rockyoulikehurricane
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:06 Quote
I understand that the Foes 2:1 suspension system uses less air pressure, therefore making the bike move through its travel much smoother, and that it uses a lighter spring, but can it be used with something other than a Curnut shock, and I wanna know what else makes it better or worse?
flag rockyoulikehurricane
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:16 Quote
specificaly on the fly, DHS Mono and the 4X
flag Hummeroid
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:23 Quote
If you could find a shock as long as a Curnutt, with the same stroke you could use a different shock, BUT, you cant.

2:1 in theory has higher shaft speeds, and as such is more precisely tunable, but look at a v-10. Its what, a 2.75 stroke shock for 10 inches of travel? Thats more than 3:1. (Ok, thru different parts of travel the ratio changes, but you get the idea) People ride those faster than anything with no damping issues.


It is a good idea, but proprietary expensive technology means expensive repairs down the road, and possibly lacking repair parts.
flag rockyoulikehurricane
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:44 Quote
ok, but the Foes 4X has 4 inches of travel therefore has 2 inches of stroke, would it work with a Fox DHX 5.0 coil or would that make it too stiff?
flag laurie1
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Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:45 Quote
Foes are meant to be used with Curnutt shocks. They are specifically tuned/valved for the design.
flag rockyoulikehurricane
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:48 Quote
ok, but is it possible to make it work like that? What about a DHX 5.0 Air
flag laurie1
Mod
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:49 Quote
The Curnutt rear shock comes with their frames. Why would you spend additional money on a "less superior" rear shock that isn't properly tuned or valved for a 2:1 bike? It just seems silly.
flag Hummeroid
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:51 Quote
If you seriously have the $$ to get a Foes, you have the $$ to run their shock. This question is therefore moot.
flag rockyoulikehurricane
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:51 Quote
good point, but does the bigger shocks on the DHS or Fly make it extra heavy or is it just a little bit
flag Hummeroid
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:52 Quote
rockyoulikehurricane wrote:
good point, but does the bigger shocks on the DHS or Fly make it extra heavy or is it just a little bit


The combined frame weight w/ shock is in a competitive range.
flag iggz
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:52 Quote
Only con I can think of is since the shock shaft moves so much more the seals on the shock get used more. Also, the huge ass 5" stroke coil... spring must be a boat anchor.
flag rockyoulikehurricane
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:54 Quote
are there any pros that ride foes bikes?
flag iggz
Posted: Aug 13, 2008 at 22:56 Quote
Cody Warren....


Why does that matter?
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