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flag jannoski
Posted: Mar 11, 2019 at 13:20 Quote
Minikeum wrote:
Hi,

Do you know any good Italian website where I could fin gps tracks for mtb, like trailforks?
I am going to Sicily (Pozzallo) soon for work for a few weeks, I shipped my bike there, and I would like to find trails around my basecamp.
Couldn't find anything interesting on trailforks or wikiloc.

Any suggestion?

Thanks!
There is a little enduro championship in Sicily, try to contact them, there is the mail contact in the website https://mtb-enduro-sicila.webnode.it/
I live in the north part of Italy, I can't help you more sorry
flag Minikeum
Posted: Mar 17, 2019 at 2:06 Quote
Thanks for the reply. I've found a few trails between Modica and Scicli. The bikeshop in Modica told me there are some stuff around Ragusa as well. Will explore next weekend probably.

Cheers
flag go-cholo-go
Posted: Mar 21, 2019 at 16:30 Quote
Alright I've got another question and am hoping for everyone's thoughts. While putting together my two week MTB biking trip through Italy and Switzerland with two stops for the UCI DH, I'm realizing I want to ride every trail possible. Obviously some of these trails are big pushes (Davos) and I will try to link them together via chairlift when able, but what are your thoughts on full suspension E-MTB vs. MTB? Do the ski resorts and lifts allow E-MTB, are these bikes frowned up, are these allowed on all trails, are they a necessity to accomplish these and other rides in a day?

Aside from Alps Trail Davos, I'm looking to ride (from MTBproject) Rinerhorn #647, Parsenn #332, Duranna Pass #631 and Serraronda, and Lago Vintage: Passo Tremalzo via val Scaglia.

Any of these trail a must do, no go, or have others near by you'd recommend?

Shootz!
flag SeniorBrucio
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Posted: Jun 17, 2019 at 21:49 Quote
Just did a week in Garda.

What fantastic riding. Highly recommend.

Very technical rocky trails most of which are hiking trails. Also a ton of trekking type trails with spectacular views and WW1 historical sites, and you can easily link up to black diamond trails along the way.

Should note the rocks here are limestone so a lot of rocks are actually parts of a bigger rock (due to the way limestone wears) and the limestone is slippery when dry compared to granite.


This was a good test for me as I started mtbing in 2017 after 16 years of not riding. Finished the Skull in just under 20 minutes with 2 minutes of that stopping to adjust my brakes just after the start and also walking back up to do a 2nd run over the jumps.

Also I stayed in Pregasina which I didnt realise is 10km of riding and 450m of climbing so be advised if you are thinking of staying there.
flag SeaSwab
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Posted: Jun 18, 2019 at 0:13 Quote
SeniorBrucio wrote:
Just did a week in Garda.

What fantastic riding. Highly recommend.

Very technical rocky trails most of which are hiking trails. Also a ton of trekking type trails with spectacular views and WW1 historical sites, and you can easily link up to black diamond trails along the way.

Should note the rocks here are limestone so a lot of rocks are actually parts of a bigger rock (due to the way limestone wears) and the limestone is slippery when dry compared to granite.


This was a good test for me as I started mtbing in 2017 after 16 years of not riding. Finished the Skull in just under 20 minutes with 2 minutes of that stopping to adjust my brakes just after the start and also walking back up to do a 2nd run over the jumps.

Also I stayed in Pregasina which I didnt realise is 10km of riding and 450m of climbing so be advised if you are thinking of staying there.

Did you use any shuttles? I'm heading down there later this week.
flag SeniorBrucio
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Posted: Jun 18, 2019 at 3:57 Quote
SeaSwab wrote:
SeniorBrucio wrote:
Just did a week in Garda.

What fantastic riding. Highly recommend.

Very technical rocky trails most of which are hiking trails. Also a ton of trekking type trails with spectacular views and WW1 historical sites, and you can easily link up to black diamond trails along the way.

Should note the rocks here are limestone so a lot of rocks are actually parts of a bigger rock (due to the way limestone wears) and the limestone is slippery when dry compared to granite.


This was a good test for me as I started mtbing in 2017 after 16 years of not riding. Finished the Skull in just under 20 minutes with 2 minutes of that stopping to adjust my brakes just after the start and also walking back up to do a 2nd run over the jumps.

Also I stayed in Pregasina which I didnt realise is 10km of riding and 450m of climbing so be advised if you are thinking of staying there.

Did you use any shuttles? I'm heading down there later this week.

Yeah i used these guys in Torbole which is a 10 min bike ride from Riva

https://www.bikeshuttletorbole.com/en/trails/luca-ride/

They were great and the guys from there even brought me out riding on their day off.
flag blacktea
Posted: Jun 18, 2019 at 6:54 Quote
SeniorBrucio wrote:

Yeah i used these guys in Torbole which is a 10 min bike ride from Riva

https://www.bikeshuttletorbole.com/en/trails/luca-ride/

They were great and the guys from there even brought me out riding on their day off.

Luca is a personal friend of mine and Bike Shuttle Torbole (https://www.trailforks.com/directory/8691/) is the best you can find in North Lake Garda.
Bike Shuttle Station is located in Torbole that is the real mtb center of north lake part (even though the famous bike festival is located in Riva del Garda.) Riva and Torbole are just 2 km. from each other so we can say all the north shore of lake garda is a continous mtb location.

I suggest to ride Monte Zugna (Bike Shuttle Torbole can take you there - it is 10km. away from Torbole) and you ride all day long for something like 40 euro. Trails start at 1865m. and end at 200m. at Rovereto .... that is REAL FUN !
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Posted: Jun 18, 2019 at 7:29 Quote
blacktea wrote:

Luca is a personal friend of mine and Bike Shuttle Torbole (https://www.trailforks.com/directory/8691/) is the best you can find in North Lake Garda.
Bike Shuttle Station is located in Torbole that is the real mtb center of north lake part (even though the famous bike festival is located in Riva del Garda.) Riva and Torbole are just 2 km. from each other so we can say all the north shore of lake garda is a continous mtb location.

I suggest to ride Monte Zugna (Bike Shuttle Torbole can take you there - it is 10km. away from Torbole) and you ride all day long for something like 40 euro. Trails start at 1865m. and end at 200m. at Rovereto .... that is REAL FUN !

Awesome, I was just on the phone with him. Will be paying him a visit on the 20th!
flag blacktea
Posted: Jun 18, 2019 at 23:00 Quote
[Quote="SeaSwab"]
blacktea wrote:
Awesome, I was just on the phone with him. Will be paying him a visit on the 20th!

Well done Smile
flag yxbix
Posted: Jun 20, 2019 at 1:29 Quote
hi, everyone,

we have a riding week in Livigno in August, a group of 4 - two experienced and two beginners. We are bringing our enduro bikes and plan to hit both Mottolino and Carosello parks, but were also wondering if any of the guided trips listed here are worth taking? We are considering any S2/S3 trip with focus on tech or flow, figure it would be a nice change from park riding and a chance to actually ride together as a group. Specifically POSCHIAVINO + LA TORNATISSIMA TRAIL and BERNINA + COL D' ANZANA TRAIL are of interest. Anyone here done them and are they worth the price? Any other suggestions also welcome. Thank you fellow pinkbikers.
flag Constable13
Posted: Jun 20, 2019 at 6:38 Quote
yxbix wrote:
hi, everyone,
we have a riding week in Livigno in August, a group of 4 - two experienced and two beginners. We are bringing our enduro bikes and plan to hit both Mottolino and Carosello parks
Hi, generally speaking Mottolino is a proper bike park for dh and enduro bikes, Carosello instead is way younger and great part of the trails are just few years old. Mottolino trails are quite flowy on top, bottom sections are steeper, rougher and definitely more technical, while Carosello's are 90% flow trails, which I've been riding super fine with my xc carbon hardtail, remaining 10% is made up of a enduro specific trails (MTB7 and MT9 trails).
When you get to the top of the Carosello 3000 lift, a 30 minutes (approximately) ride to the best viewpoint of the valley is definitely worth the effort. (Madonon trail brings you there https://www.carosello3000.com/it/estate/mountain-bike-livigno/trails/madonon )
Carosello trails https://www.carosello3000.com/it/estate/mountain-bike-livigno/trails

yxbix wrote:
were also wondering if any of the guided trips listed here are worth taking? We are considering any S2/S3 trip with focus on tech or flow, figure it would be a nice change from park riding and a chance to actually ride together as a group. Specifically POSCHIAVINO + LA TORNATISSIMA TRAIL and BERNINA + COL D' ANZANA TRAIL are of interest. Anyone here done them and are they worth the price? Any other suggestions also welcome. Thank you fellow pinkbikers.


The guy (Adam) running that website and actually guiding mtbkers around the valley would definitely let you enjoy those rides, but if you are willing to climb/push up few tough trails you'll be able to ride some very nice and natural trails starting from your doorstep.
About those trips you mentioned:
POSCHIAVINO + LA TORNATISSIMA TRAIL: I can't help with this one, I know the area quite well but I've never been riding those trails included in this tour.
BERNINA + COL D' ANZANA TRAIL: first half of this one is about the same as the previous tour you mentioned, so I can't help with that. I've been riding downhill from Col d'Anzana to Tirano and scenery wise that was really nice (make sure you pick a sunny day Big Grin ), trail itself didn't really fire me up much. If you like riding on rocks it'd be a good one for you. First 2kms down from the Col are nothing special, flat, no turns, great view, then you'll ride about 2 more kms on rocks, then the trail will get definitely more technical, steep, loose and you'll face quite a few hairpin turns.

My suggestion would definitely be to head to the Cancano lake area, which is just north of Bormio and east of Livigno, that wont require a guide to get you there. Getting there is just about riding a 3 kms steep uphill, then you'll have 5 kms of fast and loose downhill (half dirt road, half great singletrack, great one. Searching "Sorgenti Adda trail" on youtube may let you see this singletrack).
EDIT: this trail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7nPpm1Ky9Y , yellow shorts guy is the mtb guide we spoke above

Once you get to the lakes you can decide to head back to Livigno by riding another steep climb and have a blast riding down from Trela Pass [trail is never too steep or technical, just fast and steady downhill, so much fun] (Italian: Passo Trela) ( http://bit.ly/2Y0I3nR this one, riding clockwise ) or you can head up to one of the most scenic trail of the area, which is this one https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173428730#map=15/46.6037/10.2303&layers=C https://www.mtblivigno.eu/sites/default/files/styles/contentbilder/public/anteprima-tour/file_11-08-15_13_37_28.jpg?itok=NvT7C0Bn.

When you get to the top of Mottolino, don't get caught too much by all those pure DH trails, this one is definitely worth a ride http://bit.ly/2Y1JemO , it's not technical, it's fast, a bit exposed (don't drink too much beer before you ride this one Big Grin ) with great scenery.

Also, Bernina Pass is definitely worth a visit if you get to stay in Livigno for a while. At the pass you'll have the chance to see both Bernina glacier and Bernina Express (the red train). Getting there from Livigno is not that hard. You'd have to ride to the Passo della Forcola (Italian/Swiss border, located south-west of Livigno) and then take a really nice trail, which is perfectly rideable in the first half, then it gets super steep and you'll have to push your bike for few hundred meters (this is Forcola to Bernina pass http://bit.ly/2Y0sb4F )

Hope this helps.
flag SeaSwab
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Posted: Jun 23, 2019 at 13:06 Quote
blacktea wrote:
Well done Smile

Did Mont zunga on the 21st, holy shit thanks for the suggestion Smile
flag blacktea
Posted: Jun 23, 2019 at 13:29 Quote
SeaSwab wrote:

Did Mont zunga on the 21st, holy shit thanks for the suggestion Smile

i'm happy you liked it ... you owe me a beer Big Grin
flag yxbix
Posted: Jun 25, 2019 at 7:00 Quote
Constable13 wrote:
yxbix wrote:
hi, everyone,
we have a riding week in Livigno in August, a group of 4 - two experienced and two beginners. We are bringing our enduro bikes and plan to hit both Mottolino and Carosello parks
Hi, generally speaking Mottolino is a proper bike park for dh and enduro bikes, Carosello instead is way younger and great part of the trails are just few years old. Mottolino trails are quite flowy on top, bottom sections are steeper, rougher and definitely more technical, while Carosello's are 90% flow trails, which I've been riding super fine with my xc carbon hardtail, remaining 10% is made up of a enduro specific trails (MTB7 and MT9 trails).
When you get to the top of the Carosello 3000 lift, a 30 minutes (approximately) ride to the best viewpoint of the valley is definitely worth the effort. (Madonon trail brings you there https://www.carosello3000.com/it/estate/mountain-bike-livigno/trails/madonon )
Carosello trails https://www.carosello3000.com/it/estate/mountain-bike-livigno/trails

yxbix wrote:
were also wondering if any of the guided trips listed here are worth taking? We are considering any S2/S3 trip with focus on tech or flow, figure it would be a nice change from park riding and a chance to actually ride together as a group. Specifically POSCHIAVINO + LA TORNATISSIMA TRAIL and BERNINA + COL D' ANZANA TRAIL are of interest. Anyone here done them and are they worth the price? Any other suggestions also welcome. Thank you fellow pinkbikers.


The guy (Adam) running that website and actually guiding mtbkers around the valley would definitely let you enjoy those rides, but if you are willing to climb/push up few tough trails you'll be able to ride some very nice and natural trails starting from your doorstep.
About those trips you mentioned:
POSCHIAVINO + LA TORNATISSIMA TRAIL: I can't help with this one, I know the area quite well but I've never been riding those trails included in this tour.
BERNINA + COL D' ANZANA TRAIL: first half of this one is about the same as the previous tour you mentioned, so I can't help with that. I've been riding downhill from Col d'Anzana to Tirano and scenery wise that was really nice (make sure you pick a sunny day Big Grin ), trail itself didn't really fire me up much. If you like riding on rocks it'd be a good one for you. First 2kms down from the Col are nothing special, flat, no turns, great view, then you'll ride about 2 more kms on rocks, then the trail will get definitely more technical, steep, loose and you'll face quite a few hairpin turns.

My suggestion would definitely be to head to the Cancano lake area, which is just north of Bormio and east of Livigno, that wont require a guide to get you there. Getting there is just about riding a 3 kms steep uphill, then you'll have 5 kms of fast and loose downhill (half dirt road, half great singletrack, great one. Searching "Sorgenti Adda trail" on youtube may let you see this singletrack).
EDIT: this trail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7nPpm1Ky9Y , yellow shorts guy is the mtb guide we spoke above

Once you get to the lakes you can decide to head back to Livigno by riding another steep climb and have a blast riding down from Trela Pass [trail is never too steep or technical, just fast and steady downhill, so much fun] (Italian: Passo Trela) ( http://bit.ly/2Y0I3nR this one, riding clockwise ) or you can head up to one of the most scenic trail of the area, which is this one https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173428730#map=15/46.6037/10.2303&layers=C https://www.mtblivigno.eu/sites/default/files/styles/contentbilder/public/anteprima-tour/file_11-08-15_13_37_28.jpg?itok=NvT7C0Bn.

When you get to the top of Mottolino, don't get caught too much by all those pure DH trails, this one is definitely worth a ride http://bit.ly/2Y1JemO , it's not technical, it's fast, a bit exposed (don't drink too much beer before you ride this one Big Grin ) with great scenery.

Also, Bernina Pass is definitely worth a visit if you get to stay in Livigno for a while. At the pass you'll have the chance to see both Bernina glacier and Bernina Express (the red train). Getting there from Livigno is not that hard. You'd have to ride to the Passo della Forcola (Italian/Swiss border, located south-west of Livigno) and then take a really nice trail, which is perfectly rideable in the first half, then it gets super steep and you'll have to push your bike for few hundred meters (this is Forcola to Bernina pass http://bit.ly/2Y0sb4F )

Hope this helps.

wow, man, thanks a lot, I have a lot to process now Smile I'll make sure we check out your info. Also, any good suggestions on getting from Malpensa to Livigno? We have a rental car booked, because I failed to find any good public connection, but maybe I missed something?
flag Constable13
Posted: Jun 26, 2019 at 4:14 Quote
yxbix wrote:
wow, man, thanks a lot, I have a lot to process now Smile I'll make sure we check out your info. Also, any good suggestions on getting from Malpensa to Livigno? We have a rental car booked, because I failed to find any good public connection, but maybe I missed something?

You're welcome, happy to help.
Malpensa - Livigno by car is going to be a 4 hours drive, but it's definitely the best option.
Just for your info, getting there with public transport would mean a three/four stops journey, split as follow: train from MXP (Malpensa) to Milano, another train from Milano to Tirano, then bus to Bormio and another one from Bormio to Livigno, alternatively there might be another bus (run from a Swiss operator) straight from Tirano to Livigno.
If you stick to google maps suggested route (by car) you'll be fine, expect about 6€ of highway toll and make sure you pay the toll here https://apl.pedemontana.com/paga-il-pedaggio within 15 days from the day you'll drive on it, since this ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=45.6503%2C8.8468%3B45.6857%2C9.0872 ) highway section has no tollbooths, just cameras reading number plates of cars driving on it. You might want to ask your car rental company how to deal with it, highway name is "Pedemontana".

 


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