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flag creamsoda
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 17:49 Quote
princeofthenorth wrote:
floreancig14 wrote:
creamsoda89 wrote:


just like how you need a high-end pc to run that on high, same with a mac. new quad-core xeons are coming to the mac pro...

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Okay, my quad core windows based computer, with an x1950, soon to be an 8800gt, 500gb WD sata II hdd, CD/DVD/HD-DVD burner, 2gb of ddr2 6400, soon to be 4 gb.

But, I payed about 1700 with a Samsung 21.6 inch syncmaster 226bw monitor.


8800 gt. Beatiful card. is it 2 GHz or 1800 memory? and same price as GTS, but more video ramSmile and shadersSmile and vertex enginesSmile and higher fill rate i thinkSmile someone show me the drivers for one of those for a mac. ( not being scarastic, on nvidea's site, never saw "mac" as an option for video driver download"

it's pretty obvious that by building your own computer or going through companies like dell that you would get a better value on computers... it's pretty much proven that Macs don't have as much value as PCs when it comes to hardware for the price. a chunk of your money on a mac goes to apple's R&D and software engineering, and oh yeah, a couple hundred for the name and john ive's wallet. i think it was worth the premium, a lot of people don't.
flag princeofthenorth
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 17:53 Quote
pretty true. i wanna build a quad for with equipment for my needs ( two rapotors in raid 0 and a 750 gig) will cost about 2500 with 8800 gt. of coasre we can get quad cores now for aroudn 1100 in a brand new system. however, my system has water cooling for cpu , vga, and the two raptors. do mac us liquid cooling at all? then there prices will start to make sense.
flag burnabycentral
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 18:31 Quote
kylemalachi wrote:
burnabycentral wrote:
jonlake wrote:
well Im going to college next year, and am getting a computer or note book, Im 1500 is close to the max, im looking at the mac book 2nd one up (not the base) or the one up from base Imac, Im not going to be staying in dorms, and I need something that will be good for editing, which is why the Imac is more appealing to me, if I do need a labtop desperately I could pick up a cheap 2nd hand lab top or something. im open to comments or suggestions. not interested in dells though. there was ONE lab top at about the same price point which looked like an amazing value, but i forget the name...

thought this was close to being on topic..

Your best bang of the buck is to get a brand new PC desktop and a brand new PC notebook for less than 1500$. For 900$. you'll get a Q6600 processor that beats any Mac computer except for their server which is in a different areana, 2GB ram, 500GB hdd, and a pretty good graphic card that will at least beat the integrated graphic card from mac 5x and a 20" LCD monitor of your choice. For 600$, you'll a descent non-top of the line PC laptop. EG. a Pentium Dual core laptop with 1GB of ram 80GB+ HDD, will satisfy any notetaking, light gaming, editing on the go, entertainment and photoviewing and non-extreme-processor intensive tasks. YOu can also add another GB of ram for 40$ which i've seen on sale on NCIX.


You're an idiot. There is no possible way to get a great computer and a decent laptop for $1500. The computer that you just described is worth over $1500 itself unless it is a complete piece of shit or extremely low quality parts, which is something you do not want. I paid $2000 for my PC and it's a little better that what you described, but it' also custom built.


First off, for buying a Mac or PC, you need to tell us what you are doing. Are you doing all multimedia? Are you using it for writing papers and looking at porn or playing video games? No matter what you shouldnt look at porn though, always kills a computer.


I'd go with a mac for any multimedia, photoshop, blah blah blah, it just handles it better.


PCs are really good for gaming and surfing the web, thats about it.


Plus Macs dont have any hardware problems due to the fact that Mac makes all of their software and hardware.


PCs are made by thousands of companies and are all thrown together using a shitty format.



Id go with mac.
flag princeofthenorth
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 18:38 Quote
burnabycentral wrote:
kylemalachi wrote:
burnabycentral wrote:


Your best bang of the buck is to get a brand new PC desktop and a brand new PC notebook for less than 1500$. For 900$. you'll get a Q6600 processor that beats any Mac computer except for their server which is in a different areana, 2GB ram, 500GB hdd, and a pretty good graphic card that will at least beat the integrated graphic card from mac 5x and a 20" LCD monitor of your choice. For 600$, you'll a descent non-top of the line PC laptop. EG. a Pentium Dual core laptop with 1GB of ram 80GB+ HDD, will satisfy any notetaking, light gaming, editing on the go, entertainment and photoviewing and non-extreme-processor intensive tasks. YOu can also add another GB of ram for 40$ which i've seen on sale on NCIX.


You're an idiot. There is no possible way to get a great computer and a decent laptop for $1500. The computer that you just described is worth over $1500 itself unless it is a complete piece of shit or extremely low quality parts, which is something you do not want. I paid $2000 for my PC and it's a little better that what you described, but it' also custom built.


First off, for buying a Mac or PC, you need to tell us what you are doing. Are you doing all multimedia? Are you using it for writing papers and looking at porn or playing video games? No matter what you shouldnt look at porn though, always kills a computer.


I'd go with a mac for any multimedia, photoshop, blah blah blah, it just handles it better.


PCs are really good for gaming and surfing the web, thats about it.


Plus Macs dont have any hardware problems due to the fact that Mac makes all of their software and hardware.


PCs are made by thousands of companies and are all thrown together using a shitty format.



Id go with mac.


a pc and mac are made from same copments. software is how everything goes down too. 3rd party apps relases before they are ready and fully tested will f*ck things up, and seeing as how pc's are less expensive, they are alot more for pc then mac's. do some reserac before you claim the computer is impossible to acchiive. http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=BDL10001210&catid=20215&PCName=desktop%5FHPCompaq&logon=&langid=EN

oh my. 100 gig's shorrt HD space, all you need to do is pop any 8800 in there with a new power supply. killer rig, and almost 100 percent stock. you paid so much becuase if you buy in bulk, its cheaper we all know that. i built mine, and ofvre the time it worked up to aabuot 1600. its alot less powerful then the one on best buy, but i chose to becuase its a good leaerning experience.
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Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 18:39 Quote
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10090159&catid=20217&logon=&langid=EN


perfect. no 20 inch monitor 1 thousand dolars. 350 on oh.. 7950GTX and 150 on a new power supply.
flag burnabycentral
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 18:53 Quote
kylemalachi wrote:
burnabycentral wrote:
jonlake wrote:
well Im going to college next year, and am getting a computer or note book, Im 1500 is close to the max, im looking at the mac book 2nd one up (not the base) or the one up from base Imac, Im not going to be staying in dorms, and I need something that will be good for editing, which is why the Imac is more appealing to me, if I do need a labtop desperately I could pick up a cheap 2nd hand lab top or something. im open to comments or suggestions. not interested in dells though. there was ONE lab top at about the same price point which looked like an amazing value, but i forget the name...

thought this was close to being on topic..

Your best bang of the buck is to get a brand new PC desktop and a brand new PC notebook for less than 1500$. For 900$. you'll get a Q6600 processor that beats any Mac computer except for their server which is in a different areana, 2GB ram, 500GB hdd, and a pretty good graphic card that will at least beat the integrated graphic card from mac 5x and a 20" LCD monitor of your choice. For 600$, you'll a descent non-top of the line PC laptop. EG. a Pentium Dual core laptop with 1GB of ram 80GB+ HDD, will satisfy any notetaking, light gaming, editing on the go, entertainment and photoviewing and non-extreme-processor intensive tasks. YOu can also add another GB of ram for 40$ which i've seen on sale on NCIX.


You're an idiot. There is no possible way to get a great computer and a decent laptop for $1500. The computer that you just described is worth over $1500 itself unless it is a complete piece of shit or extremely low quality parts, which is something you do not want. I paid $2000 for my PC and it's a little better that what you described, but it' also custom built.


First off, for buying a Mac or PC, you need to tell us what you are doing. Are you doing all multimedia? Are you using it for writing papers and looking at porn or playing video games? No matter what you shouldnt look at porn though, always kills a computer.


I'd go with a mac for any multimedia, photoshop, blah blah blah, it just handles it better.


PCs are really good for gaming and surfing the web, thats about it.


Plus Macs dont have any hardware problems due to the fact that Mac makes all of their software and hardware.


PCs are made by thousands of companies and are all thrown together using a shitty format.



Id go with mac.

NO... Quadcore machine only cost 700$ ( when it was on sale which is frequent) at futureshop or bestbuy. 20" LCD only cost 200$~. I've seen 22" Acer LCD at costco for only 220$ (1600x1200)

You can get descent laptop from futureshop and bestbuy. A descent dell 1502 cost below 500$ with coupons. You can get lots of gift card from ebay. Eg. 300$ dell gift card for 50$.

Surfing porn does not destory a computer if you know how to use a computer. EG. using vmware and a secondary OS. then replace the OS everytime.

PC are just as good quality as the Macs. Macs seems to be better because it's expensive and people protect their expensive stuff really well. You won't see some 3000$ PC get destoryed.

PC can run all mac programs including Mac os natively. PC are just as good as any Mac with the same system SPECS. if not better. PC are very cheap because it's very popular. The more PCs thats being sold, the cheaper it is. You should've learned that a long time ago.


If you paid 2000$ for your PC, then you got ripped off unless you bought it before july 22nd (intel price drop)

eg. 4GB ram 100$ Crucial ddr2 667mhz cl5 (micron d9) capable of achieving 900mhz with 2.0v vdimm. (on NCIX)
2x 500GB hdd 200$ ( on NCIX)
Q6600 - 300$ or below usually only 280$ with mobo combo. (NCIX)
Mobo- cheap motherboard 60$ great motherboard 150$ max (Asus p5k delux )
Powersupply 30-1000$. Corsair HX 520W is below 100$
Case - any case you want
LCD 20" Samsung, BenQ, Acer for 200$~
DVD-RW 25$
Windows Vista 99-250$
Geforce 7900GS 99$

This setup should cost way below 1500$ and is much better than your setup.


Mistake that needs to be corrected.

Apple does not make all the softwares for Mac computer. Eg. Adobe and many many many more.

Sorry the first post didn't go though properly
flag burnabycentral
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 18:58 Quote
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10093861&catid=20217

This is the price when it's not on sale. Q6600, 2GB ram, 350GB hdd
flag princeofthenorth
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 19:03 Quote
sooo we all love pc or what
flag burnabycentral
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 19:25 Quote
As far as i know... the percentages of computer user are roughly:

5% mac users
95% windows user

50% of mac user are limited to macs because of their softwares. They are usually professionals in video or audio area. They didn't want to install mac OS on PC.

5% are mac hardcore

and 45% are users that prefer mac because its their only computer OS they've used


95% of the PC users are novice. They don't know a lot about Windows. Only 1% are PC hardcore. 4% are moderate users.

PC primary used by office, government, schools, homes, some small servers.


OS installed on world's computer

1st- 65% of the computer are installed with linux ( because of all the servers farms for enterprises and websites. EG. Google has 1 million + servers all running linux)
2nd - Windows 34% (PC and servers)
3rd - macs (1%)

Sorry Mac and windows are not the most popular OS for computer.

We love google right? If yes, then we love linux. There's not much complaints against linux compared to mac and windows.
flag cdavis
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 19:29 Quote
Macs are for pros, PC's are for nerds.
flag burnabycentral
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 19:30 Quote
There's no different between nerds and pro. If you're pro, you're a nerd.
flag vincentallard
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 19:46 Quote
cdavis wrote:
Macs are for pros, PC's are for nerds.

i like that ahha
flag flowride312341231
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 19:48 Quote
and i wouldn't forget when you bring your computer to get fixed, majority if not all use windows. enough said.
flag princeofthenorth
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 20:02 Quote
burnabycentral wrote:
As far as i know... the percentages of computer user are roughly:

5% mac users
95% windows user

50% of mac user are limited to macs because of their softwares. They are usually professionals in video or audio area. They didn't want to install mac OS on PC.

5% are mac hardcore

and 45% are users that prefer mac because its their only computer OS they've used


95% of the PC users are novice. They don't know a lot about Windows. Only 1% are PC hardcore. 4% are moderate users.

PC primary used by office, government, schools, homes, some small servers.


OS installed on world's computer

1st- 65% of the computer are installed with linux ( because of all the servers farms for enterprises and websites. EG. Google has 1 million + servers all running linux)
2nd - Windows 34% (PC and servers)
3rd - macs (1%)

Sorry Mac and windows are not the most popular OS for computer.

We love google right? If yes, then we love linux. There's not much complaints against linux compared to mac and windows.


well said
flag too-old4this
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 20:06 Quote
i am a 4 year mac user.....have had the same system for all 4 years.....have not had a single issue with my mac......as a matter of fact....my system today, is just as fast as it was the day i bought it.....i've never installed a virus software....and never gotten a virus....but it all depends on the application that you are using the system for.....i am a dj....i have 18,000 songs on my hard drive.....i am a hobby photographer and have used many different systems for pics.....this one seems to work best for me.....and i have recently taken up video....filming and editing....and i defy you to find a more user friendly....and yet incredibly detailed software package than the ones available for your mac.
i assume i'll probably end up under fire for my opinions from most pro-pc tech nerds, but i am a true believer.....where it may not be for everyone....it definitely IS for me.

 


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