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flag jv86416
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 19:47 Quote
ya i have to agree with ganstask8er. 4.4 isn't exactly the lightest bike out there nowadays.
flag drewfunk
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 20:24 Quote
ganstask8er wrote:
Buddy, the DAK frame from Fit is a street specific frame and it weighs 4.2 pounds. Dakota Roche is one of the most punishing riders in the business also. The Fly Tierra also weighs 4.2 pounds designed by kevin porter. A lot of the time weight is determined by the quality of metal they use and where it is butted. I higher quality steel could be lighter and stronger.

Thank you for the abundance of flawed advice, buddy.
-Just because a frame is made for street, doesnt make it tough.
-Dakota Roche is smooth as hell.
-Kevin Porter is smooth as hell.
-Modern technologies do allow us to make a strong frame at lower weights, but there still is a point where a frame is going to be weak, no matter how much technology and marketing terms you put into it.

Even though the DAK, Tierra, and TTL are a year or two newer than my United, I can guaranty you that my 5.3lb United is stronger and more dent resistent those 4.2 pounders.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 20:33 Quote
drewfunk wrote:
ganstask8er wrote:
Buddy, the DAK frame from Fit is a street specific frame and it weighs 4.2 pounds. Dakota Roche is one of the most punishing riders in the business also. The Fly Tierra also weighs 4.2 pounds designed by kevin porter. A lot of the time weight is determined by the quality of metal they use and where it is butted. I higher quality steel could be lighter and stronger.

Thank you for the abundance of flawed advice, buddy.
-Just because a frame is made for street, doesnt make it tough.
-Dakota Roche is smooth as hell.
-Kevin Porter is smooth as hell.
-Modern technologies do allow us to make a strong frame at lower weights, but there still is a point where a frame is going to be weak, no matter how much technology and marketing terms you put into it.

Even though the DAK, Tierra, and TTL are a year or two newer than my United, I can guaranty you that my 5.3lb United is stronger and more dent resistent those 4.2 pounders.

actually i highly doubt that your united is stronger. i used to have the same united you have have and i cracked it right at the dropouts. i have had the proper for a little while now and the frame feels weigh stiffer. And ps. Dakota Roche may be smooth, but a 180 to fakie off a 10 foot wallride over a stairset can never be smooth.
flag BMXeastyork
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 20:38 Quote
drewfunk wrote:
ganstask8er wrote:
Buddy, the DAK frame from Fit is a street specific frame and it weighs 4.2 pounds. Dakota Roche is one of the most punishing riders in the business also. The Fly Tierra also weighs 4.2 pounds designed by kevin porter. A lot of the time weight is determined by the quality of metal they use and where it is butted. I higher quality steel could be lighter and stronger.

Thank you for the abundance of flawed advice, buddy.
-Just because a frame is made for street, doesnt make it tough.
-Dakota Roche is smooth as hell.
-Kevin Porter is smooth as hell.
-Modern technologies do allow us to make a strong frame at lower weights, but there still is a point where a frame is going to be weak, no matter how much technology and marketing terms you put into it.

Even though the DAK, Tierra, and TTL are a year or two newer than my United, I can guaranty you that my 5.3lb United is stronger and more dent resistent those 4.2
pounders.


yeah, the daks stays look like theyd dent very easy
flag bikebreak-er
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 20:49 Quote
ganstask8er wrote:
drewfunk wrote:
ganstask8er wrote:
Buddy, the DAK frame from Fit is a street specific frame and it weighs 4.2 pounds. Dakota Roche is one of the most punishing riders in the business also. The Fly Tierra also weighs 4.2 pounds designed by kevin porter. A lot of the time weight is determined by the quality of metal they use and where it is butted. I higher quality steel could be lighter and stronger.

Thank you for the abundance of flawed advice, buddy.
-Just because a frame is made for street, doesnt make it tough.
-Dakota Roche is smooth as hell.
-Kevin Porter is smooth as hell.
-Modern technologies do allow us to make a strong frame at lower weights, but there still is a point where a frame is going to be weak, no matter how much technology and marketing terms you put into it.

Even though the DAK, Tierra, and TTL are a year or two newer than my United, I can guaranty you that my 5.3lb United is stronger and more dent resistent those 4.2 pounders.

actually i highly doubt that your united is stronger. i used to have the same united you have have and i cracked it right at the dropouts. i have had the proper for a little while now and the frame feels weigh stiffer. And ps. Dakota Roche may be smooth, but a 180 to fakie off a 10 foot wallride over a stairset can never be smooth.

Somehow I doubt you cracked the drop outs. Its easy to read through the crap.
I have decided on the Sunday New Wave in Warm Red. My origional want.

Now on to wheels
flag bikebreak-er
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 20:52 Quote
justin99 wrote:
bike-breaker- wrote:
Its now down to The Sunday Second Wave Frame versus the Mutiny Burlish 420.

Any thoughts??
I'd definitely go with the Sunday. It will take as much abuse as you can throw at it. The Burlish is more of a trails inspired frame and wouldn't hold up as good as the Sunday. I'm sure the Burlish would probably be fine but if you want something that you can have 100% confidence in, then get the Sunday.

The burlish 420 and the sunday new wave have the exact same geometry
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Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 20:55 Quote
wheels - primo for sure. or proper. done.
flag drewfunk
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 21:06 Quote
G-sport hubs for bromb-proofness!
flag jv86416
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 21:19 Quote
Yea G-Sport all the way!! primo rims are bomb-proof. you're not really going to go wrong with any of the high end rims out there.
flag Cavaties
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 21:22 Quote
look if you could spend 89 more id say get colony hell stallion becuase they are light strong and go for whips ( for me they are) because of the low toptube
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Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 21:34 Quote
or get the subrosa alameda which is just as low as the colony for 100 less
flag statler
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 21:57 Quote
Bold the word hardcore, I think a few people didn't notice it...

And my opinion, Sunday!

Edit: I see you have already chosen.
flag lettusdude
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 22:34 Quote
I know you already chose the Sunday, but...

Unsecure image, only https images allowed: http://www.terribleone.com/images/frames/08-BARCODE.jpg
Doesn't get much more hard core then that.Drool

Back on topic, if you have the money, go for g-sport wheels. They're awesome. Also look at Odyssey. I've had my stock hazard lite wheel for almost 3 years and had no problems, and they're a pretty good price.
flag bikebreak-er
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 22:56 Quote
Hey thanks for all the help.

I think i am going to go with the sunday but the teribleone is giving it a run for its money.

As for wheels i have only herd good things about the odessy and especialy primos (my buddy used to ride them) but How about the new Shadow conspiracy wheels. I bet their good coming from them. Any details?

Rear stun
http://www.danscomp.com/401163.php?cat=PARTS
front stun
http://www.danscomp.com/401162.php?cat=PARTS

whats the difference?
rear spw
http://www.danscomp.com/401161.php?cat=PARTS

oldschool haha
http://www.danscomp.com/403006.php?cat=PARTS#
flag statler
Posted: Jan 29, 2009 at 22:58 Quote
bike-breaker- wrote:
Hey thanks for all the help.

I think i am going to go with the sunday but the teribleone is giving it a run for its money.

As for wheels i have only herd good things about the odessy and especialy primos (my buddy used to ride them) but How about the new Shadow conspiracy wheels. I bet their good coming from them. Any details?

Rear
http://www.danscomp.com/401163.php?cat=PARTS
front
http://www.danscomp.com/401162.php?cat=PARTS

oldschool haha
http://www.danscomp.com/403006.php?cat=PARTS#

Mixed opinions on pretty much all of Shadow Conspiracy's line up. I have nothing bad to say about them, but Odyssey,G-sport, or Primo would be a better bet.

 


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