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flag tefiii2005
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 18:49 Quote
My Deemax rear freehub is dragging a bit and actually will occasionally pedal the cranks when rolling not on the pedals. Sometimes it tries to spin with the wheel while coasting and it causes chain to go slack across chainstay. It also is not engaging very quickly. Can anyone give me some rebuild tips?
flag spoiledgoods
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 18:50 Quote
sounds to me like your driver (pawl system) is sticky or dirty.
you would want to bring it to your shop to get the hub maintained.
flag markdeejay
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 19:03 Quote
if you have never done a FHB overhaul i suggest you don't. it's tricky, if you get someone to walk you through it great or just let a good shop deal with it.
some models of FHB's are just throw away parts. your easiest solution it to get a new one installed. you can usually get all the parts for mavic FHB on order from your LBS. get them to price the parts and the labor to fix it and compare it to the price of a new one and installations, sometimes it's cheaper to go new. depends on how many parts you need.
flag onetimetwotime
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 19:10 Quote
hahahaha. Every single mavic hub does this at some point.

I have deetraks which are the same hubs as the deemxx's. I just went through the whole occasional self pedalsing thing. It got better then got worse. Then suddenly it got worse, then worse, then practically a full out fixed gear. if you tried to coast it would make HUGE banging noises.

those hubs are trouble. ALL mavic hubs are trouble. They make the best hoops but not hubs. They need to have a 4 pawl system atleast, aswell as some other things. I just had to throw out my rear hub. f*ck em, i hate em
flag louis2468routier
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 19:24 Quote
Yeah... I Have a Deemax wheelset on My Faith 1 and They started out amazing!!! But then the Rear Hub starting giving me shit... It All start will skipping a pawl OR like others call it "Eating a Freehub".. ANYWAYS! And then one night i was riding and I heard this awful noise coming from my rear hub.. Kinda like when a 18 wheeler truck gears down... So i got off my bike and gaver' a quick spin of the pedals and it start self-pedaling... I was like "WTF!!!!", So went got home... The next morning i went to go take apart my hub.. There WAS NO ENGAGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely NOTHING!!! I was freaking out... I paid 1300$ for this wheelset and to have the rear hub go belly up on me!!! Anyways i opened her up and the internals were caked with dirt... There was everything in there.... Just nasty!... This was not just a one time thing either it happened to me AT-LEAST 6-7 times during this season!!! and they were bought new in April!!! So what did i end up doing you ask!!! Im buying a 32 hole Chris King Hub... yeah its costly.... But to make this essay long post short... Mavic produces shitty hubs... Some may say otherwise but my experience(s) {note PLURAL} during this season... I can no longer worrie about this hub anymore!!! ON COMES THE KING!!! PEACE
flag onetimetwotime
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 19:30 Quote
yeah seriously man. I had a mavic hub on a single speed city bike and it happened aswell.

dt swiss hubs are good, but can often to the same thing as mavics.
Shimano's are great can anyone can fix them with any parts, Mavic parts are STUPID.
2 stupid little pawls - $60, what the heck!!

good luck.
too bad some store nailed you for 1300 on the wheelset. dumb move
flag louis2468routier
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 19:48 Quote
HAHAHA The Funny thing is that 1300$ is a deal... Deemax Wheelset USUALLY dont go quoting me on this... go for 1499$ retail, WITHOUT TAX!!!! and you people also wana something shitty about mavic.. WARRANTY... Try contact them... My question is Howcome such amazing companys like Indy 9 and Chris king have Customer numbers that you the customer can call... Ill go to mavic for hoops but never again will i buy one of their wheelsets...
flag kona962kamloops
Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 19:51 Quote
something like that happened to mine i took it into the bike shop they fixed it and its worked great since
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Posted: Nov 25, 2007 at 23:13 Quote
Mavic FTS freehubs require regular maintainance like any other part of your bike. Pull it apart and clean everything with liberal amounts of degreaser,rinse, dry, then relube everything using a light synthtic lube and reassemble it. As long as all the interals aren't mangled you should be in pretty good shape.
The new mavic website is devoid of any technical info, but you can still find the dealer PDF manuals here...

http://www.tech-mavic.com/tech-mavic/technical_manual/data/tech-mavic/uk/produits/vtt/r_xcountry.htm

Take your time. It's really simple to do.
Good luck.
flag onetimetwotime
Posted: Nov 26, 2007 at 7:19 Quote
another stupid thing, 1300 is a deal??

for 350 at ride-this.com you can purchase the deetrak wheelset. It has the EXACT same hubs and spokes as the deemaxx, except the hub is yellow. The only thing different is the hoop. You paid an extra thousand for the colour yellow and slightly lighter hoops, NICE JOB.
flag laurie1
Posted: Nov 26, 2007 at 7:47 Quote
onetimetwotime wrote:
another stupid thing, 1300 is a deal??

for 350 at ride-this.com you can purchase the deetrak wheelset. It has the EXACT same hubs and spokes as the deemaxx, except the hub is yellow. The only thing different is the hoop. You paid an extra thousand for the colour yellow and slightly lighter hoops, NICE JOB.

What is it with you and your Deemax bashing? Unfortunately, $1300 is a steal for the Deemax wheels especially if they are the 150x12mm rear hub. I paid approximately $1600 for mine. If you have the money to spend who cares. That is the reason people work for a living as they are able to spend the money they earn on things they want. There would be no "reward" or incentive for working if you never bought a major purchase. Obviously you don't understand how expensive bike parts are nor do you care about the performance of certain parts. Die hard riders understand the benefits of the Deemax as opposed to Deetraks. I have raced on a set of Deemax and never had any problems with my hubs. It is all about preventive maintenance. You take care of your bike and it will take care of you! I have also used Hadley hubs, Chris King hubs (ripped the flange off this hub but I know that Chris King components are still one of the best precision parts manufacturer and still use their headsets on all my bikes and have a set of EX823 laced to the Pretty and Strong hubs), and I9 which I am currently using. All bike parts have their own pros and cons. One must consider these advantages and disadvantages and decide what is best for them. Every rider is entitled to their own opinion EXCEPT if you have never owned that product. By owning the item I am not talking about taking a spin on a friends bike but have actually used the item for a substantial period of time. You can't judge a book by its cover and the same thing goes for bike parts. You can't just assume what Joe Blow says is right. Every part has its flaw some more than others but if you take care of your stuff, you will have no problems down the road. Every part will eventually fatigue which will cause a failure in that part. I have broken Race Face cranks, cracked a Giant frame and my opinions of these companies are still very high as they produce some amazing parts and frames.

On another note, there are also quite a few differences between the Deemax and Deetrak wheels other than the ones you mentioned (color and weight).

The joint on the Deemax is SUP versus pinned on the Deetrak
The drilling on the Deemax is force versus traditional
The Deemax is made out of Maxtal material versus 6061 aluminum
The front Deemax is 28 spokes versus 32 spokes on the Deetrak
The nipples are different
The Deemax comes in a 12x150 rear axle where the Deetrak does not
The Deemax can be run with tubeless tires

Other than those minor details I guess you can say these wheels are essentially the same.Rolleyes
flag louis2468routier
Posted: Nov 26, 2007 at 13:22 Quote
EXACTLY!.. Yeah I have the 12x150 rear, Its been giving me problems since the start... Kinda sucks when you think this wheelset has been represented so much in our sport but for some reason its not as good as all the hype... Oh well maybe ill have better luck next time... And to 'Laurie1' Have you had any problems with your Deemaxs, Because your saying that you also regularly service your hubs... Also im wondering how do your Indy 9s' hold up?! Are they all what the company claims them to be?!!? PEACE
flag onetimetwotime
Posted: Nov 26, 2007 at 13:28 Quote
laurie1 wrote:
onetimetwotime wrote:
another stupid thing, 1300 is a deal??

for 350 at ride-this.com you can purchase the deetrak wheelset. It has the EXACT same hubs and spokes as the deemaxx, except the hub is yellow. The only thing different is the hoop. You paid an extra thousand for the colour yellow and slightly lighter hoops, NICE JOB.

What is it with you and your Deemax bashing? Unfortunately, $1300 is a steal for the Deemax wheels especially if they are the 150x12mm rear hub. I paid approximately $1600 for mine. If you have the money to spend who cares. That is the reason people work for a living as they are able to spend the money they earn on things they want. There would be no "reward" or incentive for working if you never bought a major purchase. Obviously you don't understand how expensive bike parts are nor do you care about the performance of certain parts. Die hard riders understand the benefits of the Deemax as opposed to Deetraks. I have raced on a set of Deemax and never had any problems with my hubs. It is all about preventive maintenance. You take care of your bike and it will take care of you! I have also used Hadley hubs, Chris King hubs (ripped the flange off this hub but I know that Chris King components are still one of the best precision parts manufacturer and still use their headsets on all my bikes and have a set of EX823 laced to the Pretty and Strong hubs), and I9 which I am currently using. All bike parts have their own pros and cons. One must consider these advantages and disadvantages and decide what is best for them. Every rider is entitled to their own opinion EXCEPT if you have never owned that product. By owning the item I am not talking about taking a spin on a friends bike but have actually used the item for a substantial period of time. You can't judge a book by its cover and the same thing goes for bike parts. You can't just assume what Joe Blow says is right. Every part has its flaw some more than others but if you take care of your stuff, you will have no problems down the road. Every part will eventually fatigue which will cause a failure in that part. I have broken Race Face cranks, cracked a Giant frame and my opinions of these companies are still very high as they produce some amazing parts and frames.

On another note, there are also quite a few differences between the Deemax and Deetrak wheels other than the ones you mentioned (color and weight).

The joint on the Deemax is SUP versus pinned on the Deetrak
The drilling on the Deemax is force versus traditional
The Deemax is made out of Maxtal material versus 6061 aluminum
The front Deemax is 28 spokes versus 32 spokes on the Deetrak
The nipples are different
The Deemax comes in a 12x150 rear axle where the Deetrak does not
The Deemax can be run with tubeless tires

Other than those minor details I guess you can say these wheels are essentially the same.Rolleyes

Kewl, I'll take the deemax wheels you have for sale.

you really dont understand my thoughts. But you do have some serious points.
flag biking85
Posted: Nov 26, 2007 at 13:40 Quote
I have had the same issues with my Deemax hubs. They came straight from the factory like that. It has not been a function of dirt, sand, water, etc. I have also tried many lubes and greases, from thin to thick, and even bone dry (caused an amazing howling noise that could be heard for miles) and nothing has completely cured the problem (the best has been el cheapo can of grease from auto parts store that's been rolling around in the Jeep for a couple years). Also, the freehub body is very sloppy in the hub. It has lots of fore and aft movement, especially with the cassette on. Not sure the source, but I think I'm just going to purchase a new body and see what happens.
flag onetimetwotime
Posted: Nov 26, 2007 at 13:42 Quote
biking85 wrote:
I have had the same issues with my Deemax hubs. They came straight from the factory like that. It has not been a function of dirt, sand, water, etc. I have also tried many lubes and greases, from thin to thick, and even bone dry (caused an amazing howling noise that could be heard for miles) and nothing has completely cured the problem (the best has been el cheapo can of grease from auto parts store that's been rolling around in the Jeep for a couple years). Also, the freehub body is very sloppy in the hub. It has lots of fore and aft movement, especially with the cassette on. Not sure the source, but I think I'm just going to purchase a new body and see what happens.

no point. Ordering a new freehub body through mavic is expensive. Stop dealing with annoying issues and noisy parts. Get a fresh start, buy something new, something different.
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