Aggresive Hardtails Post Em !

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Aggresive Hardtails Post Em !
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Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 13:45 Quote
Hi y’all, I’ve followed for a while but never posted. Last winter I built my first bike while hibernating. Thought I’d post it while hibernating this winter. I might build another so any constructive criticism is appreciated.

Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 14:01 Quote
trailtoad wrote:
Hi y’all, I’ve followed for a while but never posted. Last winter I built my first bike while hibernating. Thought I’d post it while hibernating this winter. I might build another so any constructive criticism is appreciated.

First critique, you should have showed us more pics. Why do I have to go into your albums to get the juicy bits!?lol

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Second critique, where are the geo numbers!?

You build a whole bike by hand and the just drop it off without any explanation!? No sir. We demand details.

Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 14:17 Quote
Yes I second the need for more details. I like what I see though. Well done on going for it.

Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 14:34 Quote
Haha,thanks guys. The numbers are a little out of the norm, namely 30mm bb drop.
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Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 14:48 Quote
Nullzwo’s 4xcss was big inspiration.

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Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 16:28 Quote
Looks sick, nice work! Bbs are too low these days anyway.

Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 16:45 Quote
trailtoad wrote:
Haha,thanks guys. The numbers are a little out of the norm, namely 30mm bb drop.
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I'm not smart enough to know if 30 or 60mm of bb drop is better. Or if 66 or 65 degrees is the exact perfect angle for a hardcore hardtail. I just know that people making things themselves the way they like it is pretty rad. Well done.

Posted: Jan 27, 2024 at 17:46 Quote
trailtoad wrote:
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Love it !

Posted: Jan 29, 2024 at 0:58 Quote
trailtoad wrote:
Nullzwo’s 4xcss was big inspiration.

wo, that's a nice build you got there. even a bist shorter than mine, and definitely winning the rear wheel tucking award. i should have gone with a chainstay yoke solution like yours... i hope you have as much fun on yours as i do. long-low-slack isn't the answer to everything. and i hope yours holds up better than mine - i just stripped the frame yesterday to have a cracking gusset repaired (and add a proper paintjob afterwards).

freestyIAM wrote:

I'm not smart enough to know if 30 or 60mm of bb drop is better. Or if 66 or 65 degrees is the exact perfect angle for a hardcore hardtail. I just know that people making things themselves the way they like it is pretty rad. Well done.

obviously there is only right answer to this: it depends.

i found bb height more crucial for straightline stability vs. bunnyhop/manual liveliness, whilst wheelbase will do for easier or more stable turning.

Posted: Jan 29, 2024 at 8:19 Quote
nullzwo wrote:

obviously there is only right answer to this: it depends.

i found bb height more crucial for straightline stability vs. bunnyhop/manual liveliness, whilst wheelbase will do for easier or more stable turning.

It will always come down to user preference. I use to like taller BB heights for ground clearance, but after getting properly use to super low BB's and adjusting my pedaling technique I vastly prefer lower.
Cornering is one thing, but the thing I notice most is taller BB's want to kick your weight forward more when the rear wheel takes an impact, sort of 'stinkbug' effect. Especially on a hardtail. Lower just feels more stable at speed.

My current hardtail is -55mm with a 27.5" wheel (equivalent to ~75mm on a 29er) and I run 170mm cranks so I could probably afford to go lower with 165mm.

Posted: Jan 29, 2024 at 9:19 Quote
Buggyr333 wrote:
nullzwo wrote:

obviously there is only right answer to this: it depends.

i found bb height more crucial for straightline stability vs. bunnyhop/manual liveliness, whilst wheelbase will do for easier or more stable turning.

It will always come down to user preference.
this. but also the use case.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2024 at 13:57 Quote
Any Canadians racing Mt 7 hardtail class? Just signed up.

Posted: Feb 4, 2024 at 5:16 Quote
dagzin wrote:
Just build this up
Radical All Mountain-Grim Ripper
Racial all mountain grim ripper
Radical All Mountain-Grim Ripper

Sick AF.


 


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