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flag SamuelB
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 5:49 Quote
Iv'e looked at 10+ videos on youtube and practiced for about a month.

Some videos say compress your suspension to get hight, some say spring down and UP before leaving the jump. Overs say lift on the your handle bars slightly and lift with your cleats.

What do you do just before you leave the lip of the jump of a tabletop or double jump or a big GAP.

Do you just get speed stay relaxed and leave the lip?
flag gramboh
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Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 11:17 Quote
For trails with built up jumps, you want to get off the brakes coming into the jump (maybe 5m out at least), then compress the suspension as you ride up the take-off (by crouching/pushing down into the bike, front and rear suspension) and then as you reach the lip you should un-weight and pull up slightly. This method will result in the bike getting a bit of pop and "sticking" to your feet/hands as well as flying straight and landing even. If you just coast off a jump on a full suspension bike you will find the rear end will kick up and/or your body will separate from the bike in the air.

At least this is how the bike school teaches you in the Whistler Bike Park... as a newb (1 season in) I find it works really well, not that I am an expert jumper by any means but I can comfortably clear everything on the blue jump tracks and some of the jumps on A-Line, Freight Train etc.
flag ryanridesbikes
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 12:24 Quote
Best tip I can give is to learn to bunny hop well on flat ground first, on flat pedals to really get the technique.

Roll along at a moderate speed, bend your legs and arms, then start by pulling hard on your bars to bring your front wheel off the ground.

Once the front wheel has left the ground jump and pull your feet up to bring the back wheel off the floor. It sounds like you'll leave the pedals behind and just jump off them, but once you've got the hang of it you'll bring them with you and have both wheels off the floor.

Tuck in the air and bring both wheels level at the peak of your jump, then land both wheels at the same time and absorb the landing.

Once you've got that down its incredibly easy to transfer those skills to a jump at slightly higher speed. I think if you get the basics on the flat first you have much better control over a jump and avoid the awkward stiff look a lot of people get when jumping.

Hope that helps.
flag Reg0928
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 12:30 Quote
Lean forward over your handlebars. Then, right when your front tire is on the edge of the jump, mash your front brakes and close your eyes.
flag cyberwolph
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 18:23 Quote
Reg0928 wrote:
Lean forward over your handlebars. Then, right when your front tire is on the edge of the jump, mash your front brakes and close your eyes.

I absolutely love this technique. I have mastered the perfect time to grab that lever.
flag rhino-connor333
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 20:13 Quote
Just pull up on your bars.
flag Rambodian
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 21:42 Quote
Reg0928 wrote:
Lean forward over your handlebars. Then, right when your front tire is on the edge of the jump, mash your front brakes and close your eyes.

Isn't that a landing technique LOL.....or is it just me Facepalm
flag Reg0928
Posted: Sep 19, 2014 at 22:15 Quote
Rambodian wrote:
Reg0928 wrote:
Lean forward over your handlebars. Then, right when your front tire is on the edge of the jump, mash your front brakes and close your eyes.

Isn't that a landing technique LOL.....or is it just me Facepalm

Jumping and landing man. Covers all aspects of getting air born
flag SamuelB
Posted: Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 Quote
Cheers useful techniques here!

I was able to jump my first tabletop straight over. Found out for that jump i just needed to make more speed.
And the compress the suspension technique works very well i'm able to a little bit of both wheel air when riding the bumpy bits on the pavement.

As far as bunny hopping goes i find lifting the back wheel to be a near impossible thing to do. I simply just do not have the back leg strength cause even with one one on the ground it's super hard.

Cheers
flag rhino-connor333
Posted: Sep 20, 2014 at 10:05 Quote
SamuelB wrote:
Cheers useful techniques here!

I was able to jump my first tabletop straight over. Found out for that jump i just needed to make more speed.
And the compress the suspension technique works very well i'm able to a little bit of both wheel air when riding the bumpy bits on the pavement.

As far as bunny hopping goes i find lifting the back wheel to be a near impossible thing to do. I simply just do not have the back leg strength cause even with one one on the ground it's super hard.

Cheers

It's not about lifting the rear end with your legs. It's about pulling the front up so hard that the rear also gets slightly airborne, then following that with rocking your weight forward, picking up the rear end further.
flag ZeGermans
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Posted: Oct 5, 2014 at 5:47 Quote
Think about how you jump without a bike just standing up. You squat down a bit then extend (push) into the ground which springs you upward.

Jumping on a bike is the same process, but on the ramp/jump face. You need to be crouched from the attack position immediately prior to the bottom of the ramp, and be extended just as your front wheel is about to leave the ramp/jump. Every jump is different and will require diffferent combinations of speed, crouch and extension depending on what you want to achieve. A good way to get the feel for the movement is to see how slow you can go before you can no longer reach the landing successfully, and notice how little you need to crouch and extend (if at all) when you're at high speed.

Practice on tables, it's much safer to build up to clearing the jump.
Don't pull up on the bar unless you're confudent you can pull up evenly else you may put yourself out of balance in the air, which can be really dangerous.
Staying centred and balanced on the bike is very important.
Find a jump with a straight and smooth run in which doesn't require a lot of pedalling if any.
Also, make a point of commitment on the run in where there is no more pedalling or braking, just focus on the jump.

I hope this hasnt confused you more. Back yourself and all the best!
flag dclinton
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Posted: Oct 5, 2014 at 20:36 Quote
as for tips on bunny hops.. i struggled for a long time until i saw a video by that funny MTBTips guy, who broke it down into three steps:

1. pull up the front end
2. kick up the back end
3. roll your shoulders to even things out in the air
(4. land and compress to absorb landing)

i found it best to practice the first two steps individually, then put them together, then add in the shoulder roll

1.: more or less the same action as pulling up for a manual/wheelie. most people dont have too much problem with this. practice getting as much lift as possible, while keeping things as straight as possible
2.: basically all you're doing when you practice this step by itself is leaning (well, more like jerking) forwards in order to lift your back wheel off the ground. this will get you comfortable with leaning/jerking forward. once you start to get a bit of lift, add in a bit of foot-work: point your toes down just a little bit to help keep your feet on the pedals and add extra "kick" and thus height to the hop.
3.: now do 1. quickly followed by 2.! you should get off the ground a bit after a few tries. roll your shoulders in the air to transfer the momentum from the movement in 2. up towards the front wheel to get things back to level. then stick that shit, son!

FYI, this is the video that did it for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPFW8OkOAGI
flag friendlyfoe
Posted: Oct 6, 2014 at 8:35 Quote
I have an aggressive set of flat pedals but was riding in running shoes and couldn't bunny hop. Bought some 510s and learned the technique on my second ride. You just tilt your feet forward and scoop back.

I'm just working my way up to small jumps but found I have infinitely more control in the air now that I can control the back end of the bike.
flag WhiskeyTangoFoxtroutz
Posted: Oct 6, 2014 at 11:31 Quote
Jump before the lip & make sure your rear cases.. you'll be forced into a nose manual instead = cooler Camera
flag graemeiow
Posted: Oct 6, 2014 at 12:24 Quote
ZeGermans wrote:
Think about how you jump without a bike just standing up. You squat down a bit then extend (push) into the ground which springs you upward.

Jumping on a bike is the same process, but on the ramp/jump face. You need to be crouched from the attack position immediately prior to the bottom of the ramp, and be extended just as your front wheel is about to leave the ramp/jump. Every jump is different and will require diffferent combinations of speed, crouch and extension depending on what you want to achieve. A good way to get the feel for the movement is to see how slow you can go before you can no longer reach the landing successfully, and notice how little you need to crouch and extend (if at all) when you're at high speed.

Practice on tables, it's much safer to build up to clearing the jump.
Don't pull up on the bar unless you're confudent you can pull up evenly else you may put yourself out of balance in the air, which can be really dangerous.
Staying centred and balanced on the bike is very important.
Find a jump with a straight and smooth run in which doesn't require a lot of pedalling if any.
Also, make a point of commitment on the run in where there is no more pedalling or braking, just focus on the jump.

I hope this hasnt confused you more. Back yourself and all the best!

What he said. A good technique is the compression on approach (squat), then the push at take of point (pop). As said earlier, look to take off shorter than the very end of the take off (all depends on how long the jump is and approach speed), this ensures you remain in control. Don't think about suspension compression, think about using your knees and elbows. Experiment with different speeds and the force of the pop.

Oh yeah, and throw a cheeky tabletop in for added style points (whips are so last season).
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