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flag Trialsiain
Posted: May 25, 2021 at 13:48 Quote
Just wondering for those of you who have a lightweight full face helmet. When you have the helmet fitted with strap done up. If you push the chin bar up towards sky, does it move up face at all or stay perfectly still ?

Every single helmet I’ve tried moves up face a little: trajecta, leatt dbx, smith mainline, endura mt500.

I am a 58cm head and a medium size. I’ve adjusted padding’s in them all and tried the super tight ones and it’s still the same. Is this just the norm?
flag nbetters21
Posted: May 25, 2021 at 16:36 Quote
I own a Giro Switchblade, its a bit heavier out of the bunch but when I move the chin it shifts up a couple of centimeters. Otherwise, it's super snug and doesn't move at all when I shake my head side to side or down.
flag HaggeredShins
Posted: May 25, 2021 at 16:55 Quote
Are you saying that pulling/pushing on the chin bar rotates the helmet up? I can't think of any moto or mtb helmet I've had where this doesn't happen.

Is your concern that the helmet will move or get pushed out of place in an impact?
flag mick06
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Posted: May 25, 2021 at 18:06 Quote
That’s completely normal, and it will have a little movement rotating the helmet side to side as well but not as much.
flag Trialsiain
Posted: May 26, 2021 at 13:15 Quote
HaggeredShins wrote:
Are you saying that pulling/pushing on the chin bar rotates the helmet up? I can't think of any moto or mtb helmet I've had where this doesn't happen.

Is your concern that the helmet will move or get pushed out of place in an impact?

Yeah so basically in the scenario I chin plant eyes facing forward/ up , the helmet would come half way up face and break my jaw
flag Trialsiain
Posted: May 26, 2021 at 13:31 Quote
Here is my mainline. It fits absolutely perfect when it’s in place doesn’t move when shaking head around. But if I push up on chin bar it comes up face (strap is done up tight)

https://m.pinkbike.com/photo/20683328/

Is this normal?
flag HaggeredShins
Posted: May 26, 2021 at 16:41 Quote
Seems like you might have the strap a bit loose? I can roll my helmets up and around a bit but not much. I can do what you're doing in the pic if I don't have the strap done up right.

This also isn't necessarily a bad thing as you don't want your helmet wrenching your head around in a crash and its improbable you'd wind up in a situation like you're describing where it totally pushes up on your head--most impacts in mtb are just that, not a wild slide like you get in moto road racing.
flag Trialsiain
Posted: May 26, 2021 at 17:06 Quote
HaggeredShins wrote:
Seems like you might have the strap a bit loose? I can roll my helmets up and around a bit but not much. I can do what you're doing in the pic if I don't have the strap done up right.

This also isn't necessarily a bad thing as you don't want your helmet wrenching your head around in a crash and its improbable you'd wind up in a situation like you're describing where it totally pushes up on your head--most impacts in mtb are just that, not a wild slide like you get in moto road racing.
nope this is with it tight! It feels like the strap is too far back. I must have some weird shaped head :/
flag mick06
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Posted: May 26, 2021 at 18:59 Quote
Still looks pretty normal to me. If you lay down with it on and mimic the position you're concerned about it will give you a bit more perspective. It probably won't be as bad as you feel it is from looking at it like that in the mirror.
flag Pigglet13
Posted: May 26, 2021 at 22:53 Quote
Helmet fit is a very personal thing as everyone has different shaped heads so one brand may fit you well whereas others will just not be compatible with your head shape.
I have a small heed and over the years I’ve tried loads of different makes and styles of helmets for all sorts of disciplines but only found a few that fit properly. I’ve literally spent thousands on moto helmets which felt ok in the shop but after 10 hours had broken in and then were too loose in certain areas.

I now have a couple brands I stick to those being leatt and arai. With both of those brands, my full face moto and Peddle lids are a really snug fit to get over my ears and on, I have to compress the padding slightly to get them over my lugs. They also squish my cheeks slightly but once on there are zero pressure points and I can wear them all day. In total comfort. With the chinstrap undone, I can put my head upside down between me legs, shake my head and the helmets more or less stay in place. I can ride down a rough track with the chinstrap undone and not notice. I can move the chin bar up if I pull it up but it won’t move on it’s own on rough ground.

The main issues I had with other lids that didn’t fit properly were pressure points round the forehead causing discomfort after a few hours and lids which felt pretty secure but wobbled/moved ever so slightly on rough terrain unless the chinstrap was overly tight which meant I noticed my goggles moving. They shouldn’t move at all.

I think it’s one of those areas where only you can decide if a helmet fits properly.
flag Trialsiain
Posted: May 26, 2021 at 23:15 Quote
Pigglet13 wrote:
Helmet fit is a very personal thing as everyone has different shaped heads so one brand may fit you well whereas others will just not be compatible with your head shape.
I have a small heed and over the years I’ve tried loads of different makes and styles of helmets for all sorts of disciplines but only found a few that fit properly. I’ve literally spent thousands on moto helmets which felt ok in the shop but after 10 hours had broken in and then were too loose in certain areas.

I now have a couple brands I stick to those being leatt and arai. With both of those brands, my full face moto and Peddle lids are a really snug fit to get over my ears and on, I have to compress the padding slightly to get them over my lugs. They also squish my cheeks slightly but once on there are zero pressure points and I can wear them all day. In total comfort. With the chinstrap undone, I can put my head upside down between me legs, shake my head and the helmets more or less stay in place. I can ride down a rough track with the chinstrap undone and not notice.

The main issues I had with other lids that didn’t fit properly were pressure points round the forehead causing discomfort after a few hours and lids which felt pretty secure but wobbled/moved ever so slightly on rough terrain unless the chinstrap was overly tight which meant I noticed my goggles moving. They shouldn’t move at all.

I think it’s one of those areas where only you can decide if a helmet fits properly.
Thank you. I can do the same and it stays on “head upside down shaking, no strap. It’s just if I push on the bar as if I was landing chin first it comes up face, it’s like my neck is too skinny so let’s it roll back maybe
flag Pigglet13
Posted: May 27, 2021 at 2:37 Quote
If it doesn’t move with your head upside down and wiggling about then I’d say you’ll struggle to get a snugger fit and actually get it on. Ultimately you have to be able to pull the chinbar up to get it off!
flag mick06
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Posted: May 27, 2021 at 8:46 Quote
Pigglet your post reminded me of the saying back in the day when choosing helmets: youve either got a shoei head or an arai head. Still so true albeit many more options now.

Trials: did you try laying down on your stomach as i mentioned? It will probably show you its not as bad as you think it is.
flag HunterBoMTB
Posted: Jun 14, 2021 at 17:40 Quote
hate to change the topic, but has anyone owned a giro switchblade and crashed it? i've heard that the chin bar is a bit wobbly, and might fail in a crash
flag nbetters21
Posted: Jun 14, 2021 at 20:31 Quote
HunterBoMTB wrote:
hate to change the topic, but has anyone owned a giro switchblade and crashed it? i've heard that the chin bar is a bit wobbly, and might fail in a crash

I have one, chin bar doesn't feel sturdy but I've face-first crashed it and it went unscathed other than scratches. I don't recommend testing the feature though lol. I have also only taken off the chin bar 2-3 times so I imagine it may get weaker as the plastic starts to bend out around the clip.
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