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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 17:36 Quote
okay well im very confused on wat bike i want to get... i want a bike made for street and dirt jumps.

is the p1 a good bike to get?

and is there anything that i could upgrade to make it good at both street and dirt jumps?

thanks
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 17:43 Quote
Positives: Super nice feeling, turns on a dime due to low bb. Perfect steering, not too quick or too slow. Manuals and hops very well.

Negatives: Frame is about a pound heavier than comparable cromo frames. Very low bb means that you can run 26's only, no 24's. Stock rims are garbage...they bend like tin foil.

I'd say that you'd want to switch out the rims/hubs, then cranks for strength, then fork just because the Dj series are boat anchors and then switch the stem, bars, seat post, etc. to lighten it up a bit
flag kyle7
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 17:46 Quote
truffles wrote:
Positives: Super nice feeling, turns on a dime due to low bb. Perfect steering, not too quick or too slow. Manuals and hops very well.

Negatives: Frame is about a pound heavier than comparable cromo frames. Very low bb means that you can run 26's only, no 24's. Stock rims are garbage...they bend like tin foil.

I'd say that you'd want to switch out the rims/hubs, then cranks for strength, then fork just because the Dj series are boat anchors and then switch the stem, bars, seat post, etc. to lighten it up a bit
Actually, im not arguing with you because i agree. But from what i know, the alu p.series do not hop well at all with the low bb factor. And i dont think the geo is any different with the cromo.
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:12 Quote
ok well truffles and kyle... is there a bike that you would suggest that is light and thin like the p1 around the 800 dollar range?
flag kyle7
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:16 Quote
specialized-dirt-jumps wrote:
ok well truffles and kyle... is there a bike that you would suggest that is light and thin like the p1 around the 800 dollar range?
eastern night train 07. On jensonusa they have it for 800 i think.. Or you could get a decent second hand bike, look in the buysell.
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:23 Quote
kinda looking for an 08 new bike...
flag Brodie-Brat-06
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:26 Quote
Well i just got my 08 P1 and love it it bunnyhops quite well and manuals really easily the only problem is that it comes with a low BB and long cranks so the might hit the ground
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:29 Quote
kyle7 wrote:
truffles wrote:
Positives: Super nice feeling, turns on a dime due to low bb. Perfect steering, not too quick or too slow. Manuals and hops very well.

Negatives: Frame is about a pound heavier than comparable cromo frames. Very low bb means that you can run 26's only, no 24's. Stock rims are garbage...they bend like tin foil.

I'd say that you'd want to switch out the rims/hubs, then cranks for strength, then fork just because the Dj series are boat anchors and then switch the stem, bars, seat post, etc. to lighten it up a bit
Actually, im not arguing with you because i agree. But from what i know, the alu p.series do not hop well at all with the low bb factor. And i dont think the geo is any different with the cromo.
Hm, weird, could just be personal preference/what you're used to, because I can hop my p2 far higher than my buddies blkmrkt mob which has a considerably higher bb.
One bike to look at would be an NS Holy, only 800 bucks with a full cromo frame.
It runs 24's and comes with a rigid fork.
flag specialized-dirt-jumps
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:36 Quote
truffles wrote:
kyle7 wrote:
truffles wrote:
Positives: Super nice feeling, turns on a dime due to low bb. Perfect steering, not too quick or too slow. Manuals and hops very well.

Negatives: Frame is about a pound heavier than comparable cromo frames. Very low bb means that you can run 26's only, no 24's. Stock rims are garbage...they bend like tin foil.

I'd say that you'd want to switch out the rims/hubs, then cranks for strength, then fork just because the Dj series are boat anchors and then switch the stem, bars, seat post, etc. to lighten it up a bit
Actually, im not arguing with you because i agree. But from what i know, the alu p.series do not hop well at all with the low bb factor. And i dont think the geo is any different with the cromo.
Hm, weird, could just be personal preference/what you're used to, because I can hop my p2 far higher than my buddies blkmrkt mob which has a considerably higher bb.
One bike to look at would be an NS Holy, only 800 bucks with a full cromo frame.
It runs 24's and comes with a rigid fork.

hey i looked at that bike and i might consider it but im jus wondering if there is a way to upgrade the bb? (ihave no idea what that is lol)
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:38 Quote
specialized-dirt-jumps wrote:
hey i looked at that bike and i might consider it but im jus wondering if there is a way to upgrade the bb? (ihave no idea what that is lol)
Which bike are you looking at?
Uhm, bb = bottom bracket and you can't raise the height of it.
flag kyle7
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:51 Quote
specialized-dirt-jumps wrote:
truffles wrote:
kyle7 wrote:
Actually, im not arguing with you because i agree. But from what i know, the alu p.series do not hop well at all with the low bb factor. And i dont think the geo is any different with the cromo.
Hm, weird, could just be personal preference/what you're used to, because I can hop my p2 far higher than my buddies blkmrkt mob which has a considerably higher bb.
One bike to look at would be an NS Holy, only 800 bucks with a full cromo frame.
It runs 24's and comes with a rigid fork.

hey i looked at that bike and i might consider it but im jus wondering if there is a way to upgrade the bb? (ihave no idea what that is lol)
no theres not. But thats a decent bike. It has a decent frame to build up on.
flag kickel
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 18:53 Quote
i'd say if ya don't know what a bb is then the p.1 will be just fine i personaly dont think its that heavy (coming from a 45lb fully) however first day out i tacod the rear rim and i figure just replace things once they break plus if you can learn all your tricks on a heavier bike then imagin how much easier they would be on a lighter bike when you upgrade to the lighter parts.
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 19:05 Quote
kickel wrote:
i'd say if ya don't know what a bb is then the p.1 will be just fine i personaly dont think its that heavy (coming from a 45lb fully) however first day out i tacod the rear rim and i figure just replace things once they break plus if you can learn all your tricks on a heavier bike then imagin how much easier they would be on a lighter bike when you upgrade to the lighter parts.

ye i no wat a bb is now.. and i have learned most of my tricks on my bighit 1 whnich is 45-50 pounds lol
flag kickel
Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 19:10 Quote
well if thats the case any of this dj street bike will seem like feather weights, then if i were you and just kinda trying this type of riding out. id get a name brand (easier to resell) then if you get into it you can always up grade current frame and from my exprience i prefer a cromo than alu thats my 2 cents
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 at 19:18 Quote
Alu frames are lighter, but have a less forgiving ride, so preferable for dj's, IMO.
Cromo is a tad heavier, but flexes which gives it the nice ride feel, so that is what I would use for a street bike.
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