Norco's suspension under braking compared to Kona's

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Posted: Oct 20, 2007 at 14:57	Quote
you are a goof, FSR is a specialized patent design and norco pays them to use it.

bikerbyday1234

Posted: Oct 20, 2007 at 15:15	Quote
are you calling me a goof ?

olynch

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Posted: Feb 6, 2008 at 5:28

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I've been riding a 04 kona coiler, even though its only 5/5.5inchs of travel you can still feel some brake jack. Im upgrading to the 2006 stinky frame and i have a friend who has the 06 primo, there noticable brake jack but it's only worth getting the brake therapy if it prevents your riding abilities.

Its like riding a 5inch travel bike off cliffs and getting bucked off on the landings because you havn't got big travel, so you upgrade and get a 8inch travel bike and then ur not so restricted. So when ur riding really steep decents which lots of corners, which require u to have maximum control over ur speed, then get a brake therapy kit. because its neccesary.

danielt7

Posted: Feb 6, 2008 at 5:32	Quote
i'm new to fullys so could someone tell me what exactly brake jack is?

olynch

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Posted: Feb 6, 2008 at 5:34

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danielt7 wrote:

i'm new to fullys so could someone tell me what exactly brake jack is?

http://www.konaworld.com/dope.htm

Watch that video, its explains it.

walt3

Posted: Feb 6, 2008 at 5:38

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when you apply the brake to many single pivot designs it causes the rear end to stiffen up and not go through its travel on hits. this happens on konas. i have a stinky and it is really bad. you can get a much more active braking system with lots of other companies. any bike with a fsr from specialized including intense will work better. as well as all the vpp bikes and bikes with 2 links that float a solid rear like cove shocker dh or iron horse sunday etc. trust me for dh you want a active rear end as much as possible. giant also make a better design. glory.

attack11

Posted: Feb 6, 2008 at 5:40

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slimjim1 wrote:

Konas suspesion design is single pivot - meaning that when compressed it moves both vertically and slightly horizontally (inwards). I think this is what causes the brakejack. Norco has several pivots (its based on FSR) and moves straight up and down, menaing its practiaclly immune from brakejack. I have a mate with floating brake (05) and it seems to work well but sometimes I think the arm part rattles loose etc. I dont think many people like the look of the floating brake, either.

the brake line stiffening doesn't affect the horst link due to the pivot being on the chainstay; where as on a single pivot (faux bar) it's on the seat stay and it basically locks it out under pressure.

that simple.

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