Specialized demo 9 rear shock help

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Specialized demo 9 rear shock help
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flag prototype26
Posted: Jan 3, 2009 at 9:55 Quote
ok managed getting the shock out fine and cleaned it okay. but i now have a major problem. as i took the rebound adjuster off it snapped. after refitting the shock to see what damaged had been done, i've found out there is now maximum rebound damping and the shock is super sluggish. seeing as i have no money now as i only just bought the bike, could someone please tell me if this shock would be okay?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Manitou-swinger-3-way-240mm-eye2eye-76mm-stroke-NEW_W0QQitemZ150315978624QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item150315978624&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

is there any difference between a 240mm and a 241mm? i know this sounds obvious but i really dont know.
please help!
thanks
faris
flag brett878
FL
Posted: Jul 30, 2009 at 17:37 Quote
i have a demo 9 2005 medium and i am planing on upgrading the rear shocks can anyone tell me what size it is?

thanks brett
flag brett878
FL
Posted: Jul 30, 2009 at 17:39 Quote
prototype26 wrote:
ok managed getting the shock out fine and cleaned it okay. but i now have a major problem. as i took the rebound adjuster off it snapped. after refitting the shock to see what damaged had been done, i've found out there is now maximum rebound damping and the shock is super sluggish. seeing as i have no money now as i only just bought the bike, could someone please tell me if this shock would be okay?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Manitou-swinger-3-way-240mm-eye2eye-76mm-stroke-NEW_W0QQitemZ150315978624QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item150315978624&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

is there any difference between a 240mm and a 241mm? i know this sounds obvious but i really dont know.
please help!
thanks

hey if you just bout the bike new and it still has a warenty take it back and get a new bike or rear shocks but if it used i think you have to buy a new one
faris
flag nicholas888
Posted: Jul 30, 2009 at 18:00 Quote
brett878 wrote:
i have a demo 9 2005 medium and i am planing on upgrading the rear shocks can anyone tell me what size it is?

thanks brett

http://www.specializedbicycles.com/
flag slayitlikeabadhabit
O+
Posted: Jul 30, 2009 at 22:07 Quote
Here's a simple alternative guys. ELKA suspension. It is better than fox pushed shocks, and $500 witha high tensile spring. They tune it to your weight, riding style, and bike. I was the first one to get a demo 9 rear shock done from them. They are great to work with, and speedy.

http://www.elkasuspension.com/

When you get a fox shock for the demo, or a vivid etc... you need to mess with eyelets, d.u. bushings, etc. Save yourself the hassle, and get something that outperforms these other shocks anyways.
flag brett878
FL
Posted: Jul 31, 2009 at 21:31 Quote
slayitlikeabadhabit wrote:
Here's a simple alternative guys. ELKA suspension. It is better than fox pushed shocks, and $500 witha high tensile spring. They tune it to your weight, riding style, and bike. I was the first one to get a demo 9 rear shock done from them. They are great to work with, and speedy.

http://www.elkasuspension.com/

When you get a fox shock for the demo, or a vivid etc... you need to mess with eyelets, d.u. bushings, etc. Save yourself the hassle, and get something that outperforms these other shocks anyways.

what about roco world cups?
flag slayitlikeabadhabit
O+
Posted: Jul 31, 2009 at 22:57 Quote
Friend has one on his demo 9. He likes mine much more lets just say... and he is very good at setting his suspension up right.

Edit: I am telling you, elka is worth the extra dough.
flag jmankoel
Posted: Oct 11, 2009 at 9:42 Quote
suvlako wrote:
Only the swingers will fit in both Positions(shock mounts or bb heights, just to be clear. The dhx and roco will fit but only in lower mount or lower bb height. Hope that helps.
ganga wrote:
don't worry there is a brit here now lol! you told him!!!
iv got a demo 9 and im about to buy a new shock thanks for the warning so what shocks do fit other than a swinger 4/6?

I am new to my demo 9 and i have been playing around with it a little bit. What's the difference between the 2 positions. my 5.0 is set at the lower one right now and it seems way to loose and it bottoms out a lot. if i switch it to the upper hole will it feel stiffer? or is it the same?
flag nothingsshocking
Posted: Oct 11, 2009 at 20:07 Quote
jmankoel wrote:
suvlako wrote:
Only the swingers will fit in both Positions(shock mounts or bb heights, just to be clear. The dhx and roco will fit but only in lower mount or lower bb height. Hope that helps.
ganga wrote:
don't worry there is a brit here now lol! you told him!!!
iv got a demo 9 and im about to buy a new shock thanks for the warning so what shocks do fit other than a swinger 4/6?

I am new to my demo 9 and i have been playing around with it a little bit. What's the difference between the 2 positions. my 5.0 is set at the lower one right now and it seems way to loose and it bottoms out a lot. if i switch it to the upper hole will it feel stiffer? or is it the same?

Did you make sure you flipped the shock when you change hole (one is the slack setting the other is steep)

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flag brett878
FL
Posted: Oct 12, 2009 at 9:52 Quote
can all shocks go both ways?
flag pbuser102331
Posted: Oct 12, 2009 at 9:54 Quote
brett878 wrote:
can all shocks go both ways?

yep.
flag jmankoel
Posted: Oct 12, 2009 at 14:58 Quote
nothingsshocking wrote:
jmankoel wrote:
suvlako wrote:
Only the swingers will fit in both Positions(shock mounts or bb heights, just to be clear. The dhx and roco will fit but only in lower mount or lower bb height. Hope that helps.

I am new to my demo 9 and i have been playing around with it a little bit. What's the difference between the 2 positions. my 5.0 is set at the lower one right now and it seems way to loose and it bottoms out a lot. if i switch it to the upper hole will it feel stiffer? or is it the same?

Did you make sure you flipped the shock when you change hole (one is the slack setting the other is steep)

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i meant like whats the difference between the 2 places?
flag nothingsshocking
Posted: Oct 12, 2009 at 16:10 Quote
ones slack and ones steep meaning the steep setting will me more of a freeride to give a little more insight, the steep setting will shorten your wheelbase and make the front wheel lift up a little easier. Also, with the steep setting the bike will steer a little quicker which can be a good or a bad thing, it may start to feel twitchy when things get steep or fast and slack would be a downhill setting making the bike feel more stable at high speed and corner better
flag chrispaulmtb
Posted: Oct 13, 2009 at 10:40 Quote
nothingsshocking wrote:
ones slack and ones steep meaning the steep setting will me more of a freeride to give a little more insight, the steep setting will shorten your wheelbase and make the front wheel lift up a little easier. Also, with the steep setting the bike will steer a little quicker which can be a good or a bad thing, it may start to feel twitchy when things get steep or fast and slack would be a downhill setting making the bike feel more stable at high speed and corner better

actually with the suspension design on the demo 9 the wheelbase does not change atall between the high and low suspension settings.the low suspension position is 1 inch lower and is generally suited to downhill riding with 200mm forks. the high position has the bb a bit too high for downhill riding but gives good clearence for freeride. also the manual says that it is not recomended that you use a 24" wheel in the lower position......not that anybody really does that anymore
flag nothingsshocking
Posted: Oct 13, 2009 at 11:51 Quote
srry ya you're right about the wheel base just the headtube angle and bottombrack height change

Bottom Bracket Height Low/Mid 371mm (Slack/downhill)
Bottom Bracket Height High/Mid 390mm (Steep/Freeride)

Head Tube Angle Low/Mid 63° (Slack/downhill)
Head Tube Angle High/Mid 64.5° (Steep/Freeride)

 


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