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Paint Scraper Prototype

Jan 3, 2014 at 9:52
by Darren Salsbury  
This is for any Mongoose fans and especially FreeDrive suspension fans. Or just people who enjoy how things happen behind the scenes in product development. Hope you enjoy this bit of history that rattled loose from my memories upon finding some old photos.

I had a few photos from my time working for many great years at Mongoose. The pics are of a prototype frame that eventually became the FreeDrive suspension that is still in production in the marketplace for about a decade.
Proto type paint scraper was the original idea behind the Mongoose Freedrive. I was told this was was made by legendary Jim Busby who patented the floating BB. Used a paint scraper blade for the link between the BB and CS.

The FreeDrive system is covered under the broad utility patent taken out by Jim Busby which then was licensed to Pacific Cycle who owned GT, Schwinn, and Mongoose at the time. In simple terms if the BB is a separate part from the front and rear triangles it is covered. This patent was initially used on the original I-Drive that GT used (and it still using today). Busby also came up with a few more way's to "skin the cat" that is independent / floating BB so Schwinn had their own iteration with the ISO Drive and last to the party was Mongoose with FreeDrive.

 paint scraper proto type from 1999-2000 Hand made by Jim Busby. Jim used the paint scraper blade because he could change the angle of the link which adds reduces chain growth.
Paint Scraper: This frame was made with Busby's own hands including the rudimentary, yet effective in testing paint scraper blade linkage (more on that later). Because of this linkage the prototype became affectionately called the Paint Scraper by the development team. My memory serves me that Jim made this prototype around 1999-2000 but it got moth balled because nobody was willing to test ride a bike with the sketchy paint scraper blade attaching the BB to the chain stays.

 paint scraper built up .I was crazy enough to actually go ride it with the paint scraper blade linkage. The link eventually got a crack in it but I got a few days of riding on it before it gave out.
I was curious enough to want to know how it rode and I was desperate enough in needing an "angle" to get Mongoose back on track in the mountain bike world so I built it up and proceeded to hammer the frame on the local trails. I actually liked the way it pedaled and it gave Mongoose a new story to tell in the market place.

Paint Scraper break
The blade eventually broke. Next was a call to Jim Busby with a "what's up with that" on the BB linkage from the local hardware store. Jim explained this was a down and dirty way to alter the angle of the linkage which adds or reduces chain growth. Add washers to the BB side make a greater angle and the chain growth is increased, take them out making it more flat and less chain growth. He intended the system to be tailored to XC/4X snappy pedaling to more plush FR/DH applications in the flat setting. He never intended for a flex plate like that to be used in production. The paint scraper blade was replaced with a proper linkage with bearings and testing began in 2004. First model year we came out with the Teocali and Black Diamond.

The teams that helped bring these bikes to market with me were incredible to work with. There was a ton of engineering, industrial design, graphics, and testing to take this rough looking prototype into a production bicycle. I had the best people supporting this effort I could have ever hoped to work with. Thanks to George (engineering and design), Jeff (artist), and EC and Kevin (testing). The suspension design went on to US and Australian national championships, magazine awards and Rampage competitions, not bad from such sketchy beginnings.

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4 Comments
  • 10
 We actually thought about doing the FreeDrive with a flex plate of titanium on the XC stuff but in the end the link with bearings turned out a better way to go. Especially once we ditched the needle bearing then the goofy little skate bearings on the next version…finally ended up using same bearings that the Boot'R used and all systems were go.

I saw the 2014 Boot'R on the website. Not sure what they're cooking up for beyond that. I think there will continue to be something offered in DH though.
  • 10
 Cool story of Freedrive. Prototype without two lingage pivots...how did works :-)? Darren do you know, if the mongoose is going to continue with BootR? Last info I have is that they finished with DH bikes..
  • 10
 Thank you. I became very helpful. Now, I have overhauled FREEDRIVE-BIKE. Today, I pulled the bearing of eight. The surprising in its complexity.
  • 10
 Those were good times….would have been awesome if we could have kept the band together.







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